**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 02 02:59:57 2007
Nov 02 06:13:49 * nelson considers patching bitbake so it reports when it's been forced to a particular version ... and by what file.
Nov 02 06:16:15 <Khem> RP: ping
Nov 02 06:20:16 <nelson> Hmmm... Apparently it already reports that information, but only when you're debugging.
Nov 02 06:20:27 <nelson> Wouldn't it be better to not have that bug in the first place?
Nov 02 07:20:03 <mickeyl> morning
Nov 02 07:27:58 <Bernardo> good morning
Nov 02 08:04:44 <XorA> morning
Nov 02 08:05:02 <koen> hey XorA & mickeyl 
Nov 02 08:05:46 <XorA> ok I need to buy new ADSL2+ modem
Nov 02 08:06:05 <mickeyl> morning koen & XorA 
Nov 02 08:06:15 <koen> I found out my modem supports dyndns in its firmware
Nov 02 08:06:26 <XorA> most do
Nov 02 08:06:54 <XorA> Speedtouch is still alcatel crap :-(
Nov 02 08:07:00 <XorA> ST didnt improve the quality
Nov 02 08:22:03 <hrw> morning
Nov 02 08:22:28 * hrw wants to euroland
Nov 02 08:23:07 <esben> moin
Nov 02 08:23:43 <XorA> hrw: that a theme park>
Nov 02 08:23:45 <XorA> ?
Nov 02 08:23:49 <esben> Happy day yesterday. I found a fix to build meta-toolchain for ppc603e :-)
Nov 02 08:24:05 <esben> or at least, I found a workaround....
Nov 02 08:24:06 <XorA> ~lart linux and its lack of decent scheduling
Nov 02 08:24:06 * ibot rm -rf's linux and its lack of decent scheduling
Nov 02 08:24:26 <hrw> XorA: no - part of world where euro is currency
Nov 02 08:24:41 <XorA> hrw: so like disney dollars :-D
Nov 02 08:24:52 <hrw> PLN value is rising, Euro is decreasing due to that.
Nov 02 08:24:59 <hrw> and my invoices are in Euro...
Nov 02 08:25:05 <XorA> :-(
Nov 02 08:25:18 <CM> hrw: Be glad it's not in USD
Nov 02 08:25:22 <esben> hrw: don't you have euro in .pl?
Nov 02 08:25:29 <hrw> esben: not yet
Nov 02 08:25:44 <hrw> CM: I do not use dummy currencies
Nov 02 08:25:47 <esben> I'm from .dk, we have our DKK also.
Nov 02 08:25:49 <CM> Hehe
Nov 02 08:27:30 <esben> DKK has been quite stable compared to euro, so we have the real benefits of euro without having "out-source" the decission making of our financial policy
Nov 02 08:27:51 <esben> anyone that has experience with ESFQ ?
Nov 02 08:36:09 <steliosk> hrw : You are not alone... I have a friend who is doing consulting work for a US company and gets paid in US$ while in Greece....
Nov 02 08:36:15 <steliosk> major pain :(
Nov 02 08:37:14 <Khem_> USD in US is pain too these days :)
Nov 02 08:40:13 <hrw> steliosk: thats why all my invoices are in Euro - nevermind does client is from eurozone, UK, US or Poland
Nov 02 08:40:24 <esben> buying stuff from US is nice these days though :-)
Nov 02 08:41:01 <steliosk> hrw : That's makes you 30% more expensive for the same contract :(
Nov 02 08:41:10 <steliosk> esben : Yes... travelling also :)
Nov 02 08:42:42 <esben> My boss is flying to NY today, and I hope he will be able to find me a Linksys WRTSL54GS for my home network :-)
Nov 02 08:43:14 <esben> It doesn't seem to be possible to buy such a nice thing in europe :-(
Nov 02 08:44:40 <esben> 8MB flash, 32MB RAM, WLAN AP, 4 port switch, USB 2.0 --> a very nice machine to build a lean mean OE based home router/firewall/ap/server on
Nov 02 08:44:59 <XorA> doesnt hrw have one of those?
Nov 02 08:45:14 <XorA> I only have the GL
Nov 02 08:46:09 <hrw> XorA: I have wrt54gs not wrtSL54gs
Nov 02 08:46:18 <hrw> esben: look for asus wl-500gp
Nov 02 08:46:32 <hrw> esben: its comparable to wrtsl54gs but can run 2.6 kernel
Nov 02 08:46:59 <hrw> and looks nicer
Nov 02 08:49:20 <hrw> ~spell goverment
Nov 02 08:49:22 <ibot> possible spellings for goverment: government movement ferment governed garment conferment pavement foment deferment
Nov 02 08:51:11 <CIA-32> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5b486585... 10/ (1 packages/gsm/pty/pty.c packages/gsm/pty_0.0.bb): 
Nov 02 08:51:11 <CIA-32> pty: Commit by andrew :: r3327 /trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/pty.c: (link)
Nov 02 08:51:11 <CIA-32> Avoid spinning after the slave pty closes.
Nov 02 08:52:39 <hrw> http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/11/02/i-want-euro-in-poland/
Nov 02 08:54:37 <steliosk> btw do uou think its better to use a service like blogspot or setup up something on a server we maintain ?
Nov 02 08:55:16 <koen_> for what?
Nov 02 08:55:31 <koen_> oe.org already has a blogging platform installed, if that is what you want
Nov 02 08:56:21 <esben> hrw: can wrtsl54gs not run a 2.6 kernel?
Nov 02 08:58:14 <hrw> esben: from what I remember there were problem with it
Nov 02 08:59:11 <steliosk> koen_ : Well we are thinking of starting blogs for the devs in company
Nov 02 08:59:47 <steliosk> and we wonder what the best option is
Nov 02 08:59:52 <hrw> steliosk: wordpressMU
Nov 02 09:00:14 <hrw> steliosk: one code, many blogs - eac with own subdomain or subdir
Nov 02 09:00:56 <hrw> esben: "Almost all of these platforms are based on 2.6 kernels with the exception of Broadcom -- Sorry; we couldn't get a stable wifi connection on 2.6."
Nov 02 09:01:36 <esben> hrw: a shame :-(
Nov 02 09:02:15 <hrw> shame to broadcom
Nov 02 09:14:12 <mickeyl> hmm mplayer uses pld instructions :/
Nov 02 09:14:14 <mickeyl> | motion_comp_arm_s.S:28: Error: selected processor does not support `pld [r1]'
Nov 02 09:14:56 <koen> that's armv5?
Nov 02 09:15:15 <mickeyl> yep
Nov 02 09:15:21 <koen> iirc you can safely leave them out
Nov 02 09:15:31 <mickeyl> yeah, they are just hints
Nov 02 09:15:56 <hrw> <4>end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0
Nov 02 09:15:56 <hrw> <3>Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0
Nov 02 09:16:03 <hrw> ~curse gta01
Nov 02 09:16:04 <koen> drat, fetchmail is doing an evo
Nov 02 09:16:04 <ibot> May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, gta01 !
Nov 02 09:16:13 <koen> mail from the past 2 years is reappearing
Nov 02 09:16:49 * hrw wants ARM VGA pocket device with atleast 512MB flash
Nov 02 09:18:00 <koen> would a 1gb sd card also do?
Nov 02 09:18:09 <hrw> no
Nov 02 09:18:19 <hrw> gta01 just refused to use my 1GB sd card
Nov 02 09:18:33 <koen> even with the .23 kernel?
Nov 02 09:19:05 <hrw> first device has to be atleast usable..
Nov 02 09:19:14 <hrw> I have 1.5M free flash again
Nov 02 09:21:48 <hrw> so reflashing (with losing all configs etc) or booting from sd
Nov 02 09:22:25 <hrw> ~curse pcf50606 'driver' for useless crap in dmesg
Nov 02 09:22:26 <ibot> May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, pcf50606 'driver' for useless crap in dmesg !
Nov 02 09:28:28 <hrw> koen: does 2.6.23-openmoko is working?
Nov 02 09:29:04 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 3253 has been created by xyzaid(AT)yahoo.fr
Nov 02 09:29:06 <cdbot2> * * Belkin bt card not working - hciattach  fails with bcsp error messages
Nov 02 09:29:08 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3253
Nov 02 09:34:41 <koen> hrw: it was at OEDEM
Nov 02 09:38:30 <XorA> hrw: when you going to do patches for Marvell cards, just found Sparklan for only 25GBP
Nov 02 09:39:41 <XorA> INCLUDES = $(XORG_INCS) $(PLATFORM_INCLUDES) -I/usr/include/drm # FIXME this last part is crack
Nov 02 09:39:43 <XorA> heh heh
Nov 02 09:48:59 <hrw> XorA: drmfix.patch is in OE
Nov 02 09:49:19 <hrw> XorA: next week?
Nov 02 09:49:24 * Crofton|home will work for Euros
Nov 02 09:49:26 <XorA> hrw: I know, its just an insane comment
Nov 02 09:53:21 <russf> Crofton|home: Can't you sleep?
Nov 02 09:53:31 <hrw> XorA: I am doing zaurus configs update now
Nov 02 09:53:53 <hrw> c7x0/akita/spitz/poodle builds with 2.6.23 now (460-469 kernel modules for each). tosa fails
Nov 02 09:54:31 <XorA> hrw: cool
Nov 02 09:54:51 <hrw> 2.6.23 is default in angstrom now?
Nov 02 09:55:25 <Crofton|home> 6am
Nov 02 09:56:09 <woglinde> he crofton
Nov 02 09:56:10 <Crofton|home> woke up, need to get a little more done b4 leaving
Nov 02 09:56:13 <woglinde> no sleep?
Nov 02 09:56:58 * XorA is suffering timezoen confusion now
Nov 02 10:00:29 <Crofton|home> plenty of sleep :)
Nov 02 10:01:39 * hrw rsyncing 2.6.23 test kernels to ewi
Nov 02 10:01:55 <hrw> will take a lot of time on 512kbps
Nov 02 10:02:02 <lumag> hrw: where does tosa fail for 2.6.23?
Nov 02 10:02:33 <hrw> lumag: kernel too big with my config
Nov 02 10:02:33 <woglinde> hm
Nov 02 10:02:38 <woglinde> 900 bugs are open
Nov 02 10:03:08 <lumag> hrw: Oh :)
Nov 02 10:05:04 <lumag> what did you change from defconfig? You can move e.g. NLS to modules. It would save some space
Nov 02 10:05:36 <woglinde> do we want a .pkg for zlib?
Nov 02 10:05:45 <woglinde> aeh .pc
Nov 02 10:05:56 <hrw> lumag: will check
Nov 02 10:06:10 <hrw> lumag: now rebuilding kernel with OE default config
Nov 02 10:06:19 <hrw> lumag: btw - you are from Russia?
Nov 02 10:06:22 <lumag> hrw: also you can add SND_TIMER, SND_PCM to modules
Nov 02 10:06:27 <lumag> hrw: yes
Nov 02 10:07:12 <hrw> lumag: write directly to Laibsch (Rolf Leggewie) about serial cable (add me to cc:)
Nov 02 10:07:56 <lumag> hrw: ok
Nov 02 10:13:20 <lumag> hrw: currently I'm trying to get cable via another route. If that fails, I'd write to Rolf
Nov 02 10:14:37 <woglinde> hms sdl is a mess
Nov 02 10:14:50 <woglinde> in oe
Nov 02 10:15:23 * koen wonders why noone has responded to the CONFLICTS rfc yet
Nov 02 10:16:06 <XorA> koen: it didnt break anything :-)
Nov 02 10:18:09 * Crofton|home appears to have received an upgrade to first class ....
Nov 02 10:19:45 <esben> hrw: asus wl-500gp is broadcom also...
Nov 02 10:20:02 <XorA> quick someone mention Crofton|home and his unamerican activities :-)
Nov 02 10:20:36 <hrw> ah. 
Nov 02 10:20:53 <hrw> koen: can apache on ewi get a bit more cpu time?
Nov 02 10:20:57 <Crofton|home> shhh, big brother is listening
Nov 02 10:21:43 * Crofton|home notes "un-american activities" are very often really American values :)
Nov 02 10:23:52 <Jin^eLD> greetings from the CELF
Nov 02 10:24:18 * Jin^eLD is sitting in the Poky presentation
Nov 02 10:26:01 <hrw> Jin^eLD: Dodji talk?
Nov 02 10:27:07 <woglinde> hi jineld
Nov 02 10:27:26 <woglinde> jineld oh who is speaking?
Nov 02 10:28:25 <Jin^eLD> hrw: yes, Dodji
Nov 02 10:28:35 <Jin^eLD> hi woglinde 
Nov 02 10:30:42 <Crofton|home> how is the conference?
Nov 02 10:31:02 <Jin^eLD> Crofton|home: well, just started, it's the 2nd lecture now
Nov 02 10:31:06 <Jin^eLD> but overall quite interesting
Nov 02 10:31:24 <Jin^eLD> some lectures overlap in an unfortunate way, i.e. I'd like to see both but they are at the same time
Nov 02 10:31:36 <hrw> Jin^eLD: its normal ;(
Nov 02 10:31:43 <Jin^eLD> :P
Nov 02 10:32:34 <Jin^eLD> Dodji makes a somewhat confused impression though :)
Nov 02 10:39:07 <Jin^eLD> next lecture; l8r
Nov 02 10:49:20 <hrw> ~curse sharp once more
Nov 02 10:49:21 <ibot> May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, sharp once more !
Nov 02 10:49:37 <hrw> ~lart linux-2.6 for being so big
Nov 02 10:49:39 * ibot nukes linux-2.6 with a single large nuke for being so big
Nov 02 10:50:11 <koen> there
Nov 02 10:50:19 <koen> my pvr has gbit nfsroot now
Nov 02 10:50:55 <koen> and extra ram salvaged from an old computer
Nov 02 11:06:34 <koen> [  4]  0.0-10.0 sec    764 MBytes    639 Mbits/sec
Nov 02 11:06:45 <koen> not bad for a 15 meters of cat5 :)
Nov 02 11:08:53 <lumag> hrw: maybe we can add an option to change partition tables?
Nov 02 11:09:26 <hrw> NO
Nov 02 11:09:41 <hrw> new cpu arrived
Nov 02 11:13:28 <hrw> time to upgrade
Nov 02 11:21:50 <Jin^eLD> re
Nov 02 11:36:05 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 3254 has been created by ghaderer(AT)nexwave-solutions.com
Nov 02 11:36:07 <cdbot2> * * native OpenSSL fails to build due to  the use of target linker flags
Nov 02 11:36:09 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3254
Nov 02 12:04:43 <hrw> re
Nov 02 12:05:01 <hrw> XorA: it is AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
Nov 02 12:07:02 <XorA> hrw: alright for some
Nov 02 12:07:55 <Crofton|home> koen, I updated elinux.org/OSK to point to angstrom
Nov 02 12:08:10 <Crofton|home> I really need to update and test the images there
Nov 02 12:08:26 <Crofton|home> but I noticed our webserver was getting hits for a dir there that had gone away
Nov 02 12:17:29 <CIA-32> 03xora 07org.oe.dev * redb8cd28... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko2/openmoko-worldclock2_svn.bb): openmoko-worldclock2_svn.bb : fix depends
Nov 02 12:18:12 <CM> Interesting thing for making prototypes: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/first-pics-of-bug-labs-open-source-hardware/
Nov 02 12:19:25 <CIA-32> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r27e74ef9... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
Nov 02 12:19:25 <CIA-32> conf files: remove preferred-openmoko-versions.inc (they're included in sane-srcdates.inc),
Nov 02 12:19:25 <CIA-32> catch up with distro configurations
Nov 02 12:32:42 <koen> hrw: usbhost on tosa is only needed for wifi and bluetooth, right?
Nov 02 12:34:06 <hrw> wifi
Nov 02 12:34:13 <hrw> BT is on serial
Nov 02 12:34:23 <Crofton|home> mickey|lunch, nelson was having an issue with openmoko builds gnash-0.8.0 not 0.8.1 yesterday
Nov 02 12:34:29 <Crofton|home> I think that came from the sane-* file
Nov 02 12:34:37 <koen> nelson os having more issues
Nov 02 12:34:47 <koen> about trademarks and such
Nov 02 12:35:43 <koen> the word 'shill' comes to mind
Nov 02 12:37:43 <koen> Crofton|home: it comes from the lockdown file that I kept pointing a a few weeks back
Nov 02 12:38:26 <koen> Crofton|home: everything in angstrom 2007.1 (and hence angstrom 2007.1 derivates) is locked down now
Nov 02 12:38:57 <koen> the 'stability' thing and all
Nov 02 12:39:13 <koen> you know, what people were whining about
Nov 02 12:39:36 <koen> and now they have it, they whine about new and untested stuff not getting used
Nov 02 12:39:43 <koen> ~users
Nov 02 12:39:45 <ibot> so this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? <irony> well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. </irony>
Nov 02 12:42:00 <Crofton|home> koen, I found it easily, once I bothered to look :)
Nov 02 12:46:47 <koen> grep -rn is too hard for some people
Nov 02 12:54:47 <esben> hmmm.... bitbake -s shows the newest versions, not the ones selected by fx. distro, is this the expected behavior or am I doing something wrong?
Nov 02 13:02:10 <Crofton|home> koen, in a perfect world we would keep track of all these questions and create qa FAQ
Nov 02 13:02:34 <Crofton|home> ok, must start drving soon
Nov 02 13:03:03 <esben> Crofton|home: hehe, just let me know where to find this FAQ :-)
Nov 02 13:31:04 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 3255 has been created by zap(AT)homelink.ru
Nov 02 13:31:06 <cdbot2> * * Spitz amber LED not affected by /sys entries
Nov 02 13:31:08 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3255
Nov 02 15:22:28 <hrw> or better here
Nov 02 15:22:30 <hrw> koen: ping
Nov 02 15:22:47 <hrw> koen: I want to remove DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS from angstrom
Nov 02 15:31:33 <koen_> hrw: leave them for now and send a proposal to angstrom-dev
Nov 02 15:31:46 <hrw> sure
Nov 02 16:04:16 <Jin^eLD> koen: does angstrom have something ready to use upstart or initng? I see that there is an upstart .bb file around
Nov 02 16:06:14 <koen> Jin^eLD: you'd have to ask XorA, he's our new initsystem guru :)
Nov 02 16:06:22 <Jin^eLD> ooh, ok :)
Nov 02 16:06:27 <Jin^eLD> XorA: ping :>
Nov 02 16:07:22 <XorA> nothing ready
Nov 02 16:07:35 <Jin^eLD> anything planned?
Nov 02 16:07:58 <koen> XorA's mail about the subject: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/distro-devel/2007-October/000067.html
Nov 02 16:08:05 <Jin^eLD> thx
Nov 02 16:09:20 * koen wonders why the €20 raid controller has more 32 times more ram than the €500 one
Nov 02 16:11:41 <Jin^eLD> interesting
Nov 02 16:12:02 <Jin^eLD> I did not know that it is not yet doing the parallel stuff
Nov 02 16:12:17 <Jin^eLD> well, the topic just came to my mind since I ended up in a parallelizing boot lecture
Nov 02 16:12:54 <Jin^eLD> zecke's webkit presentation is next :>
Nov 02 16:13:56 <koen> :)
Nov 02 16:14:07 <koen> how's linz?
Nov 02 16:14:26 <Jin^eLD> well, my 2nd time there, like rest of .at I guess
Nov 02 16:14:35 <Jin^eLD> dead in the evening
Nov 02 16:14:42 <Jin^eLD> bug maybe that was just because of the holiday yesterday
Nov 02 16:15:19 <Jin^eLD> well.. I'm originally from Moscow which has more inhabitants than whole .at :) so even Vienna is more like a village to me :P
Nov 02 16:15:46 <Jin^eLD> probably the reason I'm staying - no rush, no hurry ;)
Nov 02 16:15:55 <koen> heh
Nov 02 16:16:01 <koen> that reminds me
Nov 02 16:16:14 <koen> I need to locate a translation of the Final Watch
Nov 02 16:16:28 <gremlin[it]> Jin^eLD are u at conference in Vienna ?
Nov 02 16:16:38 <Jin^eLD> gremlin[it]: in Linz.. CELF
Nov 02 16:16:44 <Jin^eLD> koen: is it the 2nd or the 1st?
Nov 02 16:16:59 <Jin^eLD> koen: I think I watched the first one but to be honest I did not like it that much
Nov 02 16:17:00 <koen> Jin^eLD: 4th, I already have the first 3
Nov 02 16:17:10 <koen> the books are way better
Nov 02 16:17:12 <gremlin[it]> Jin^eLD, oh yes ... i forgot ... how is it? 
Nov 02 16:17:19 <Jin^eLD> books are always better... see LOTR
Nov 02 16:17:39 <Jin^eLD> gremlin[it]: not too in depth going, mostly scratching the surface, each lecture is only 40 minutes
Nov 02 16:17:53 <Jin^eLD> so I would have expected a more in depth view.. but overall ok
Nov 02 16:18:02 <Jin^eLD> mostly interesting to talk to people
Nov 02 16:18:09 <koen> Jin^eLD: the director of night watch hates magic and fantasy, so that's why the movie isn't making much sense at some points
Nov 02 16:18:25 <gremlin[it]> Jin^eLD ..mhh ok ... sp isn't too bad I didn't come *LOL* 
Nov 02 16:18:30 <koen> the movie director, that is
Nov 02 16:19:25 <Jin^eLD> night watch got me all confused..
Nov 02 16:21:32 <Jin^eLD> room change, l8r :)
Nov 02 16:22:31 <gremlin[it]> bye
Nov 02 16:34:50 <Jin^eLD> re
Nov 02 16:39:51 <Jin^eLD> here is some realtime stuff for you: http://www.deadlock.dhs.org/jin/zecke_linz.jpg
Nov 02 16:39:55 <Jin^eLD> :)
Nov 02 17:15:09 <woglinde> openmkoko
Nov 02 17:15:12 <woglinde> uos
Nov 02 17:15:24 <woglinde> re
Nov 02 17:19:06 <woglinde> hrw/koen should I do the nls fix for alsa-utils for 1.0.14 and 1.0.15 in one commit or two commits?
Nov 02 17:19:32 <hrw> one
Nov 02 17:19:38 <woglinde> okay
Nov 02 17:38:42 <kergoth> wow, i still have bitkeeper shell functions in my bash dotfiles
Nov 02 17:38:45 <hrw> bye
Nov 02 17:48:26 <woglinde> hi kergoth
Nov 02 17:49:03 <CosmicPenguin> heh
Nov 02 18:07:24 <woglinde> supper
Nov 02 18:27:22 <CIA-32> 03xora 07org.oe.dev * raee7ac4e... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): sane-srcrevs.inc : add linux-openmoko as it was removed from everywhere else.
Nov 02 18:27:29 <CIA-32> 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r619c8df7... 10/ (1 packages/mplayer/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2.bb): mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2.bb : fix for armv4
Nov 02 18:27:34 <CIA-32> 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r039b16d0... 10/ (1 packages/mplayer/files/motion-comp-pld.patch): mplayer/files/motion-comp-pld.patch : remeber patch
Nov 02 18:27:39 <CIA-32> 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r33819f24... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs.inc : bump openmoko-theme-standard2
Nov 02 18:27:44 <CIA-32> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf3bc63cc... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs: bump openmoko-appmanager2 to get fix for OM #960
Nov 02 18:27:49 <CIA-32> 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * rad204362... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
Nov 02 18:27:49 <CIA-32> alsa-utils: fix bug 2348, nls problem with libintl
Nov 02 18:27:49 <CIA-32> * add alsa-utils-automake.patch
Nov 02 18:27:49 <CIA-32> * fix version 1.0.14 and 1.0.15
Nov 02 21:08:13 <kergoth> hmm
Nov 02 21:11:00 <CosmicPenguin> indeed
Nov 02 21:12:10 <chouimat|away> hi kergoth CosmicPenguin
Nov 02 21:13:33 <CosmicPenguin> chouimat|away: you get that job yet?
Nov 02 21:14:30 <chouimat|away> CosmicPenguin: which one? the work from home or the other (yesterday interview) ?
Nov 02 21:14:54 <CosmicPenguin> you were talking about two possible gigs
Nov 02 21:14:56 <chouimat|away> CosmicPenguin: I got the "yesterday interview" one 
Nov 02 21:15:28 <kergoth> huh, lately i've been pondering something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoMoreSourcePackages for oe
Nov 02 21:15:29 <kergoth> hmm
Nov 02 21:15:42 <CosmicPenguin> chouimat|away: nice!
Nov 02 21:16:00 <CosmicPenguin> kergoth: hum - freaky
Nov 02 21:16:11 <chouimat|away> CosmicPenguin: pay less and I have to go out but it's ok since the company will move at the end of the month in the Bymarket :)
Nov 02 21:16:33 <CosmicPenguin> into the Bymarket?
Nov 02 21:17:03 <chouimat|away> CosmicPenguin: you know downtown ottawa near the rideau center .. where all the pubs and restaurant are
Nov 02 21:17:16 <kergoth> CosmicPenguin: was just thinking about patchsets and SRC_URI and the virtues and downsides to fetching and such, and started pondering the use of a git repo per package, with the oe metadata in the source tree like debian.. heh.  cant remember why we didnt want that when oe was started.. where are those old wiki pages..
Nov 02 21:17:20 <CosmicPenguin> yeah - that woudl be an awesome place to wkr
Nov 02 21:17:35 <chouimat|away> CosmicPenguin: yup
Nov 02 21:17:51 <kergoth> i shoudl try ot get to another OLS one of these years
Nov 02 21:18:21 <CosmicPenguin> probably won't be in ottawa though
Nov 02 21:19:17 <CosmicPenguin> kergoth: well, the biggest problem was that we didn't really have a RCS that was condusive that sort of behavior
Nov 02 21:19:19 <chouimat|away>  later beer time I feel like getting wasted tonight
Nov 02 21:19:28 <CosmicPenguin> we could have never gotten bitkeeper to work like that
Nov 02 21:19:55 <kergoth> true, and bk was so heavy
Nov 02 21:20:18 <kergoth> and since it had no branches, you'd have to have an assload of big clones
Nov 02 21:20:20 <kergoth> heh
Nov 02 21:21:14 * kergoth might do a proof of concept, see how it goes
Nov 02 21:41:42 <kristoffer_> RP, Got a sec for kernel question?
Nov 03 01:47:04 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug  has been RESOLVED by bankai.kasumi(AT)gmail.com
Nov 03 01:47:06 <cdbot2> * *  bitbake-1.2.1.bb parallel make fails
Nov 03 01:47:08 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=
Nov 03 01:48:13 <Henryk> hmm, there's the bug in the bugbot again: no bug number
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