**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 03 02:59:57 2007 Nov 03 10:56:04 * * OE Bug 3255 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by zap(AT)homelink.ru Nov 03 10:56:06 * *  Spitz amber LED not affected by /sys entries Nov 03 10:56:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3255 Nov 03 11:02:58 http://www.pastebin.ca/759632 why is do_unpack fontconfig looking for device_symbols.h in my ~ ? Is that a bug or fault in my setup? Nov 03 11:38:31 morning Nov 03 12:18:19 good morning boys and girls Nov 03 12:20:27 gm Nov 03 12:20:38 'morning all Nov 03 12:20:52 the count for this moring: 1 exploded PSU, 1 broken cpu fan, 3 broken hd fans Nov 03 12:21:01 * koen is starting to run out of spare parts Nov 03 12:21:29 koen: you maintain servers? Nov 03 12:21:42 only the ones in the closet here :) Nov 03 12:22:11 morning koen Nov 03 12:22:13 s/ones/one/ Nov 03 12:22:15 hey mickeyl Nov 03 12:22:53 mickeyl: I checked the neod menu again (with your 600x600 code still in) and it seems to add 600 pixels between each entry Nov 03 12:23:05 so the menu is 1200 pixel high on my a780 Nov 03 12:23:08 hehe Nov 03 12:23:18 that 600 pixels was a testing :) Nov 03 12:23:26 was never supposed to be commited Nov 03 12:23:31 I'm going to make it a fullscreen menu Nov 03 12:23:33 soonish Nov 03 12:23:40 like the freesmartphone namespace :) Nov 03 12:23:45 oops, right Nov 03 12:23:50 i should be more careful ;) Nov 03 12:25:12 mickeyl: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/openmoko-progress Nov 03 12:25:30 should be readable in between exploding PSUs and failing fans Nov 03 12:26:12 nice :) Nov 03 12:26:40 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ has some more Nov 03 12:27:23 right. Nov 03 12:27:32 i wish someone would add thumbnails to scap Nov 03 12:31:24 your method of sending dbus messages from C needs some work as well ;) Nov 03 12:31:34 you're doing it as I would do it Nov 03 12:31:48 system("dbus-send "); Nov 03 12:31:58 except more glib-ified :) Nov 03 12:34:05 throwaway code, ya know Nov 03 12:34:28 this is just for checking whether the stuff i have in my head works Nov 03 12:34:35 if so, then i seriously start looking into OHM Nov 03 12:34:46 and hal Nov 03 12:34:48 yep Nov 03 12:35:12 i have one more week left to implement panels appearing on demand + turning on/off peripherals Nov 03 12:35:26 then i will release the november snapshot and have to work on other things Nov 03 12:35:33 for quite a while Nov 03 12:35:55 you want it to look like http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/1840647842/ Nov 03 12:36:03 and have panel visible only when needed Nov 03 12:36:26 hi koen Nov 03 12:36:27 oh you mean the complete panel Nov 03 12:36:29 interesting Nov 03 12:36:49 that screenshot is just AUX -> fullscreen Nov 03 12:36:57 hey woglinde Nov 03 12:37:35 *g* closing one bug a day would be good Nov 03 12:39:15 would still take us 2.5 years to close all bugs Nov 03 12:39:45 *g* I meant all developer Nov 03 12:39:46 s Nov 03 12:39:54 closing each one bug Nov 03 12:40:04 /dev/sda1 298G 16G 283G 6% /OE Nov 03 12:40:07 that's more like it Nov 03 12:40:25 hm there are plenty bug reports which are obsolete Nov 03 12:44:18 yeah, unfortunately Nov 03 12:49:14 koen: actually, i consider rewriting neod in vala Nov 03 12:50:11 ah, btw. Nov 03 12:50:15 something i wanted to talk with you about Nov 03 12:51:17 1.) glib 2.14.1 works fine here. do we want to keep angstrom2007.1 locked down for the time being, or updating once in a while until the branch? Nov 03 12:52:16 gcc 4.2 and glibc 2.6 also work fine Nov 03 12:52:36 if you want newer stuff you should use 2008.1 :) Nov 03 12:52:48 unless there are pressing reasons to break the freeze Nov 03 12:53:21 ok, let's discuss "pressing" ;) Nov 03 12:53:29 glib 2.14.1 saves power Nov 03 12:54:10 send a mail to angstrom-distro-devel with your wishes and reasoning, wait 2 days and implement it :) Nov 03 12:54:18 since no-one will respond Nov 03 12:54:24 Nov 03 12:56:13 I don't see a reason why we shouldn't update glib, but lets use the mailinglist to avoid people whining after the fact Nov 03 12:56:35 righto Nov 03 12:56:37 agreed Nov 03 12:57:04 * * OE Bug 3256 has been created by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de Nov 03 12:57:06 * * fontconfig_2.4.1. bb not building due to error fetching device_symbols.h Nov 03 12:57:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3256 Nov 03 13:52:04 * * OE Bug 3256 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by Nov 03 13:52:06 * *  fontconfig_2.4.1. bb not building due to error fetching device_symbols.h Nov 03 13:52:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3256 Nov 03 14:17:45 bbiab, dist-upgrade Nov 03 14:28:51 koen, mickeyl: I would find the timeout option to the "read" command useful in busybox for openmoko -- are there any issues in turning on that option for busybox ash for angstrom in general, or should that be openmoko specific, or just leave it alone? Nov 03 14:29:38 it should be ok to turn it on for angstrom Nov 03 14:29:51 but as above, mailinglist, avoid whiners, etc Nov 03 14:30:35 oe mailing list, or is there an angstrom one to use? Nov 03 14:33:48 angstrom-distro-devel Nov 03 14:34:28 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ -> contact for instructions Nov 03 14:34:32 brb Nov 03 14:49:47 re Nov 03 15:24:56 What is the meaning of Nov 03 15:25:00 " the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: "? Nov 03 15:25:23 mickeyl, ping Nov 03 15:26:09 benlau2: from what I understand they were copied to the install directory but were not packaged (i.e. not put into an ipk) Nov 03 15:26:12 benlau2: It means that the results of "ipkg install" will differ from the results of "make install" Nov 03 15:26:29 ic Nov 03 15:26:45 Then how can I mark those file be packaged by ipkg? Nov 03 15:27:53 benlau: you need to list them in FILES Nov 03 15:28:27 i.e. something like FILES_${PN} = "/stuff/in/weird/place*" Nov 03 15:29:45 Thanks~ Nov 03 15:30:17 s/=/+=/ Nov 03 15:33:18 I am trying to build openmoko-session2 package. It notes that /etc/matchbox/session is installed but not shipped. Nov 03 15:33:53 As the file is listed in CONFFLIES_${PN}, it was failed to pack. Nov 03 15:34:36 And then I have added a line " FILES_${PN}+="/${sysconfdir}/matchbox/session" into openmoko-session2.bb Nov 03 15:34:58 The note is gone , however, it still complain : Nov 03 15:35:01 *** Error: CONTROL/conffiles mentions conffile /etc/matchbox/session which does not exist Nov 03 15:46:56 morning Nov 03 15:47:12 g'morning! Nov 03 15:47:44 (sorta, it's almost not morning any longer where you live) Nov 03 15:52:59 mwester hehe Nov 03 17:21:50 morning Nov 03 17:21:56 evening :) Nov 03 17:22:37 hrw: just woke up or really in a different timezone? Nov 03 17:22:43 ~ugt Nov 03 17:22:53 methinks ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Nov 03 17:23:28 wow, when I was greeting with morning at 18-1900 I really meant it :) used to sleep late... Nov 03 17:24:26 brb Nov 03 17:41:11 re Nov 03 17:50:47 re Nov 03 17:57:02 re Nov 03 17:57:09 wb Nov 03 17:57:33 hi jineld Nov 03 17:57:43 how ies celf going? Nov 03 17:57:58 quite cool actually, last discussion right now Nov 03 18:01:32 discussion about "best distro", with two commercial reps (mv/windriver) and oss ppl Nov 03 18:28:37 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/11/03/phone-should-have-a-mirror/ Nov 03 18:37:57 hrw: in japan there are phones where the lcd turns into a mirror when you press a button Nov 03 18:41:36 good stff Nov 03 18:50:59 bye all Nov 03 18:56:06 pH5: there are also phones which measure your level of bad breathe Nov 03 18:59:29 seen that on tv Nov 03 18:59:37 are you saying pH5 has bad breath?? :) Nov 03 18:59:44 lol Nov 03 19:00:57 they said healthcare will be an important element in the celly market. They also showed a machine that measured different values from your sweat Nov 03 19:01:42 why? you arn't allowed to use phones in hospitals!!! Nov 03 19:03:54 nonsense if you ask me. But there's peopele who like such things. See Marcin's blog entry with the mirror and neo fitting clothes :D Nov 03 20:52:43 hi all! someone here work (build images / software) for nolia N770 / N800 with OE ? Nov 03 21:00:59 i want to know if is easy / difficult to create a new machine definition and kernel that include some binary only driver ... Nov 03 21:01:25 does N770/N800 behave in this way about nokia closed source "drivers" ? Nov 03 21:02:32 isnt there any n series support there already? Nov 03 21:03:03 you could hack in something that included a binary driver... Nov 03 21:07:57 timtimred well i mean something like the binary only drivers of nvidia for graphic card ... Nov 03 21:08:52 i would hack (move to OE) the neuros OSD ... it have some closed codecs and part of kernel to access the DSP Nov 03 21:09:56 A noob question for you gurus. I want to remove avahi-daemon and and avahi-autoipd from my angstrom build. What's the smart way to do that? Nov 03 21:10:50 move to oe from? Nov 03 21:13:59 a plain cross-environment ... Nov 03 21:14:46 there are kernel sources (about alal the sources i think) maybe some ugly part to manage the binary part of kernel i suppose ... Nov 03 21:16:32 How up-to-date Maemo recipes in OE are? I can't seem to be able to build 'maemo-image' as some links on internet tell me Nov 03 21:16:56 gremlin hm for the binaryonlystuff I think you have to made your own .bb Nov 03 21:23:14 woglinde : for userspace part surelly ... what i really don't know how to manage is the kernel ... Nov 03 21:23:57 i just want to know if nokia N's have similar problem ad so take a look on their solution Nov 03 21:24:32 gremlin[it]: the n800 doesnt really have much in teh way of closed source drivers Nov 03 21:26:10 gremlin[it]: there's a single kernel module that implements some UMAC stuff, and i think only the cx3110x driveractually links to it Nov 03 21:26:55 (well, uses any symbols in it, to be precise ;) Nov 03 21:29:53 gremlin look at the madwifi .bb Nov 03 21:30:05 thanks ! Nov 03 22:40:51 Hello Nov 03 22:42:20 I am trying to build nxssh which is based on openssh-4.7p1. Nov 03 22:42:37 has anybody tried building that in oe? Nov 03 22:47:34 it drops out during configure "checking for ls" with the message "build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/nxssh-3.0.0-21-r0/nxssh/configure: line 16884: syntax error near unexpected token `PROG_LS,'" **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Nov 04 02:59:57 2007