**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 09 02:59:57 2007 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 09 03:08:23 2007 Nov 09 07:46:32 morning Nov 09 07:53:48 morning Nov 09 07:57:52 hm.. the uclibc channel seems to be dead most of the time Nov 09 08:04:31 XorA: what platforms are you working with using OE? Nov 09 08:05:13 gilligan_: Zaurus Neo1973 Nov 09 08:06:07 Good morning ! Nov 09 08:07:46 XorA : BTW have you ever done any ecliple + remote gdbserver development (for userland apps)? We need to debug an app and i though to try eclipse instead of ddd Nov 09 08:08:54 steliosk: I barely used eclipse as an editor Nov 09 08:10:29 eclipse is an evil memory eater Nov 09 08:10:34 XorA : what did you use for driver development ? Nov 09 08:11:02 * gilligan_ prints uclibc on a paper and jumps on it repeatedly Nov 09 08:11:43 i /still/ don't manage to prevent uclibc from striping ..gaaaah Nov 09 08:12:43 steliosk: printk Nov 09 08:13:47 ah, there we go.. DO_STRIP=y .. well d'oh Nov 09 08:14:29 steliosk: there are also some ways to debug the kernel over a serial line when you have a second PC (or virtual machine) Nov 09 08:28:49 re Nov 09 08:28:52 ~hail XorA Nov 09 08:28:54 * ibot bows down to XorA and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Nov 09 08:29:12 XorA : You are more hardcore than i thought :) Nov 09 08:29:33 steliosk: no, just used to do embedded before linux Nov 09 08:29:41 steliosk: no debuggers on PICs Nov 09 08:31:41 hi Nov 09 08:32:06 XorA : hehe i know.... a toggling pin was enough :) Nov 09 08:32:33 XorA : an ICE used to cost as much as an engineers salary for 6-9 months Nov 09 08:33:09 for some reason, lastly my overlay versions aren't prefered anymore over oe's Nov 09 08:33:21 does anyone have an idea why ? (it worked well before) Nov 09 08:33:26 steliosk: yup Nov 09 08:33:31 morning! Nov 09 09:46:28 cbrake: filed a bug about the uclibc segfault at the uclibc bugtracker.. some faulty pointer deference in an iteration loop during dynamic lib load internals.. god knows.. Nov 09 09:51:15 hm.. how can I use uclibc_svn instead of the .29 version prefered by angstrom ? Nov 09 09:53:09 override the preferred in local.conf? just an idea.. Nov 09 09:56:52 not quite sure how to be honest Nov 09 10:03:02 hey koen.. Nov 09 10:03:07 good morning all Nov 09 10:03:12 hi oken Nov 09 10:03:14 koen that is Nov 09 10:03:47 :) Nov 09 10:04:33 koen: you join at exactly the right moment in time.. my simple mind needs some help ;] how can I tell bitbake to use uclibc_svn instead of the prefered uclibc_0.9.29 or whatever? something with PREFERED and overriding etc.. but i don't really have a clear idea on that :) Nov 09 10:05:49 PREFERRRED_VERSION_uclibc="0.9.29+svnr${SRCREV_pn=uclibc}" should do the trick Nov 09 10:07:20 *_* okay..thanks.. the syntax looks a bit weird to me right now, but i'll give it a try Nov 09 10:09:17 koen: i traced down the uclibc segfaults to some faulty pointer dereference and filed a bug on the uclibc bugtracker.. maybe that leads to something.. Nov 09 10:13:23 koen: that actually doesn't seem to work... `bitbake -crebuild uclibc` still chooses uclibc-0.9.29-r8 Nov 09 10:14:11 * koen spots a typo Nov 09 10:14:16 PREFERRRED_VERSION_uclibc="0.9.29+svnr${SRCREV_pn-uclibc}" Nov 09 10:15:03 ah.. now the syntax also looks less weird ;] Nov 09 10:16:54 then however I just realized that I completely forgot about the splendid company firewall and how there is no way I can grab anything from svn Nov 09 10:16:58 x_X Nov 09 10:17:42 Koen how many R's do you need there? Nov 09 10:17:52 heh Nov 09 10:17:56 * koen spots another typo Nov 09 10:18:06 haha Nov 09 10:18:14 gilligan_: the angstrom mirror should have a tarball of that snapshot Nov 09 10:18:55 i see Nov 09 10:19:27 hmm, building angstrom minimal image, I am not using linux-2.6.20, however for some reason it gets downloaded Nov 09 10:19:44 Jin^eLD: you're using 2.6.20 for linux-libc-headers Nov 09 10:19:45 any idea why? Nov 09 10:19:57 I thought there is a separate linux-libc-headers-2.6.20 package? Nov 09 10:20:05 yes Nov 09 10:20:08 damn good set of headers those Nov 09 10:20:18 but that uses the linux kernel tarball to generate it Nov 09 10:20:22 ooh ok Nov 09 10:20:37 it runs unifdef on it to remove #ifdef __KERNEL__ portions Nov 09 10:20:48 I thought in the past there was a separate headers tarball Nov 09 10:20:52 I guess thats what got me confused Nov 09 10:21:05 there was one in the past Nov 09 10:21:17 koen: ftp.angstrom-distribution.org ? Nov 09 10:21:19 but the maintainer got burnt out dealing with kernel people Nov 09 10:21:29 :( Nov 09 10:21:32 gilligan_: check angstrom-mirrors.bbclass Nov 09 10:21:44 Jin^eLD: now it's in the upstream kernel, so less work for all of us Nov 09 10:21:49 koen: ah..thanks Nov 09 10:21:50 I see Nov 09 10:21:51 and the kernel headers are now cleaner and have a make target now Nov 09 10:21:58 but that's still no prob if I am using 2.6.24? Nov 09 10:22:04 i.e. the 2.6.20 headers are fine? Nov 09 10:22:05 http://pastebin.ca/766968 output from psfxa with multibitbake can be scary Nov 09 10:22:10 Jin^eLD: they should be Nov 09 10:22:10 morning Nov 09 10:22:52 koen: now it selects uclibc_0.9.28 which I doubt is right :) Nov 09 10:22:53 btw why not use the headers from the kernel that is used on the system? Nov 09 10:23:15 Jin^eLD: those expose internal kernel API Nov 09 10:25:17 i c Nov 09 10:29:53 well http://lwn.net/Articles/2.6-kernel-api/ is a good place to look at Nov 09 10:30:15 thx Nov 09 10:30:25 as of 2.6.18 the make headers_install is the important part Nov 09 10:30:53 koen: want to try another preferrrred version syntax? :) I just grabbed a daily snapshot from the angstrom mirror, but i have no idea how to get bitbake to use it.. I suppose that the uclibc_svn recipe should somewhow handle this... Nov 09 10:31:02 which is meant to sanitise the kernel internals out of the useful to userland headers Nov 09 10:34:04 * * OE Bug 3270 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by koen(AT)openembedded.org Nov 09 10:34:06 * *  gnash-0.8.1-r0-do_compile Nov 09 10:34:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3270 Nov 09 10:37:55 koen: actually I think i'd just have to change the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE in uclibc_svn.bb from 0 to 99 or whatever Nov 09 11:36:39 koen|away: alive? Nov 09 11:44:18 hrw: any idea how I can use uclibc_svn in an angstrom image? koen gave me some PREFERRED_VERSION setting earlier on.. but that set the version to 0.9.28 .. so that wasn't what I wanted Nov 09 11:45:05 hrw: so in short.. there is a uclibc_svn.bb but i have no idea how I can get bitbake to use it for my custom (angstrom2007 based) image Nov 09 11:56:51 hrw: never mind.. figured it out Nov 09 12:08:20 today ain't my day.. uclibc_svn.bb tries to fetch a snapshot from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/..... which doesn't exist anymore. But I don't understand where that is defined at all. The .bb itself has a subversion SRC_URI, but i can't find that mirror declared anywhere, so I have no idea where I can change it Nov 09 12:10:12 zecke.. one of the smart ones.. very good... ;] Nov 09 12:11:05 zecke: maybe you can give me a hand.. Nov 09 12:11:51 not now, just woke up Nov 09 12:12:01 zecke: uclibc_svn fails because it tries to grab a daily snapshot from an invalid URL (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/.....) and I have *NO* idea where that url comes from. It's not in the .bb file at least Nov 09 12:12:31 zecke: you just woke up.... *_* Nov 09 12:12:48 zecke: ah right.. the luxury of being a student :) Nov 09 12:13:09 gilligan_: that failure is not an issue. we try to download snapshots from a PRE_MIRROR Nov 09 12:13:26 gilligan_: so first try to grab the tarball, then use whatever scm Nov 09 12:14:01 zecke: well I have to use the mirror because I can't access svn because of the company firewall Nov 09 12:14:38 zecke: just where the heck is the PRE_MIRROR defined? Nov 09 12:15:21 fgrep -R PRE_MIRROR org.openembedded.dev ... nothing Nov 09 12:15:36 gilligan_: conf/bitbake.conf or your distro in conf/distro/* Nov 09 12:15:43 gilligan_: just search for MIRROR Nov 09 12:16:01 ah.. alright Nov 09 12:16:03 zecke: thanks Nov 09 12:19:19 still can't find the right one..screw it.. i'll just patch the SRC_URI directly Nov 09 13:02:15 gilligan_: ??? what is the issue with failing to download that tarball? it will just use svn afterwards Nov 09 13:03:04 zecke: i - can - not - access - subversion - from - work - because - of - firewall - EOT Nov 09 13:03:07 ;] Nov 09 13:08:30 gilligan_: even with https ? Nov 09 13:08:59 gilligan_: what about drilling some ssh tunnels through the fw? ;) Nov 09 13:09:32 no ssh Nov 09 13:09:39 ssh over https? Nov 09 13:09:47 did that too.. Nov 09 13:10:06 tried some stuff but couldn't find anytying that works Nov 09 13:10:24 you need this "connect" thing I think Nov 09 13:10:27 I can look it up if you want Nov 09 13:10:30 it worked nicely for me Nov 09 13:10:42 it was a helper for tunneling ssh over https Nov 09 13:11:04 I used that successfully in a very restrictive environment Nov 09 13:12:03 I tried corkscrew, which didn't work.. maybe i'll give it another try at some point Nov 09 13:12:09 there is also a java things SOCKS over http which works even when https is restricted Nov 09 13:12:26 but you need access to a webserver Nov 09 13:13:51 http://www.jfranken.de/homepages/johannes/vortraege/ssh3_inhalt.en.html Nov 09 13:14:03 I am not sure if I used this one though Nov 09 13:14:10 I think what I had was much simplier Nov 09 13:15:14 I think I used something similar to this: http://wiki.kartbuilding.net/index.php/Corkscrew_-_ssh_over_https Nov 09 13:17:07 yeah i just stumbled over that as well Nov 09 13:17:43 ssh rox :) Nov 09 13:17:50 can't test that now though because I don't have a machine accepting ssh on port 443 right now Nov 09 13:18:30 I thought you could somehow redirect the stuff, i.e. to 22 Nov 09 13:18:56 well, it's too long in the past... but I do not remember that I had to modify my "outside" server setup Nov 09 13:19:59 it states that in the very first line of the page quite clearly :) and also makes perfect sense Nov 09 13:20:23 because obviously your local firewall won't let you connect to an outside box on port 22 Nov 09 13:27:37 hi, is it possible to get the user-manual in a pdf format or simila Nov 09 13:27:39 ? Nov 09 13:28:18 hmf, my ssh connection is laggy :/ Nov 09 13:28:41 you can could check out the docs and generate the pdf Nov 09 13:29:06 but i think the pdf version should be available online *somewhere* .. dunno though Nov 09 13:30:36 hmm Nov 09 13:31:14 and where can i check it out ? Nov 09 13:32:38 have a look at the getting started documentation on the openembedded website.. instead of checking out the dev branch you need to check out the doc branch Nov 09 13:35:31 http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.documentation/usermanual/usermanual.pdf Nov 09 13:35:34 nice \o/ Nov 09 13:35:39 thanks gilligan_ :) Nov 09 13:40:17 geekounet: ah.. there it is.. you're welcome Nov 09 14:36:04 * * OE Bug 2954 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by mlauer(AT)vanille-media.de Nov 09 14:36:06 * *  New program and recipe: ipkgorphan Nov 09 14:36:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2954 Nov 09 14:57:01 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1e3b6595... 10/ (1 packages/ipkg/ipkgorphan_0.0.1.bb): add ipkgorphan, a dependency tracking tool for ipkg Nov 09 15:11:34 good morning all Nov 09 15:20:48 gm Nov 09 15:38:39 Good morning Nov 09 15:40:38 howdy. Nov 09 16:27:35 morning Nov 09 16:36:49 re Nov 09 16:37:16 hey hrw Nov 09 17:43:58 do we have an opinion on Android? Nov 09 17:45:22 I'll wait until they show something working Nov 09 17:46:49 It's amazing to me how seriously people take something even before it's real. Android == vaporware ATM, I'll form an opinion when something works. JMO. Nov 09 17:47:15 yeah Nov 09 17:47:26 I wonder how long it will take us to add it to OE :) Nov 09 17:47:56 one this can be more assumed - they will get umts in their first phone Nov 09 17:48:26 hopefully we can get openmoko on their phone :) Nov 09 17:51:09 they have HTC in group so maybe atleast hardware can be nice Nov 09 17:52:45 mwester: they sent a patchset for the qualcomm board to LAKML this week Nov 09 17:52:57 mwester: so at least they have a 2.6.23 linux port Nov 09 17:53:06 what did rmk think of it? Nov 09 17:53:38 * Crofton cannot take a powerpoint slide with "ontology" on it seriously Nov 09 17:53:47 koen|away: 2.6.24-rc2 support Nov 09 17:53:49 rmk said that git-send-email is broken Nov 09 17:53:55 rofl Nov 09 17:54:18 * Crofton wonders if rmk and koen were twins seperated at birth :) Nov 09 17:55:13 * XorA must say he hasnt missed the crap on LAKML since he unsubscribed Nov 09 17:55:15 exciting time for mobile phones Nov 09 17:57:44 koen|away: gratulations on n810 Nov 09 17:57:49 koen|away, http://cisdr-workshop.org/ Nov 09 17:58:06 we got money to go to Ireland and drink beer Nov 09 17:58:06 * hrw wonder when nokia will change rules of developer program Nov 09 17:58:48 hrw: you excluded because of OH? Nov 09 17:58:55 'you can apply only if you live in country where we sell n800' Nov 09 17:59:14 they do not sell tablets in Poland Nov 09 17:59:37 hrw: :-( that sucks ass Nov 09 18:00:01 thats what nokia is good at Nov 09 18:00:28 6310i was good crap, 6230i (which I have here as backup) suxx totally Nov 09 18:01:18 770 was good as developer tool but not for normal use (slow, system apps nearly not usable on 64M if you run two at once) Nov 09 18:02:11 * XorA likes his nokia 6822, best phone phone I ever owned Nov 09 18:02:36 slider one? Nov 09 18:03:01 no, fold out qwerty Nov 09 18:03:34 http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7bg_o5MiJn9kRM:www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/1893-1.jpg Nov 09 18:03:48 ah. Nov 09 18:04:37 can n8X0 devices send/receive sms via bluetooth to phone? Nov 09 18:05:29 rather not Nov 09 18:05:47 but if you write or install 4th party soft... Nov 09 18:07:07 if only my HTC could forward wlan over gprs Nov 09 18:07:09 XorA: indt was working on that, but that project got canceled Nov 09 18:08:27 XorA: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/selfone/ Nov 09 18:08:41 XorA: probably they got internal message "tablet IS NOT a phone!!!" Nov 09 18:09:41 heh heh Nov 09 18:35:13 tmut looks cute Nov 09 18:37:41 hi kergoth Nov 09 18:37:55 hey Nov 09 18:38:02 hm yes Nov 09 18:38:07 tmut seems to work Nov 09 18:39:40 hmmm - that needs to be maemoized Nov 09 18:40:27 or maybe it already is, and I'm an idiot Nov 09 18:40:32 cosmic thats the plan Nov 09 18:40:44 It has been sugarized, I know that Nov 09 18:48:43 bye Nov 09 19:23:35 re Nov 09 19:29:58 hi flo Nov 09 19:48:24 ... Nov 09 19:49:14 anyone lurking ? Nov 09 19:50:09 Spyr1: no Nov 09 19:50:13 bugger :) Nov 09 19:50:22 Spyr1: :-P Nov 09 19:50:31 Im hacking e-series a bit Nov 09 19:50:32 Spyr1: nice to see you again Nov 09 19:50:36 Spyr1: I saw your commit Nov 09 19:50:44 :-) Nov 09 19:51:01 should make things nicer for kernels thast need to support multiple wm97xx codecs Nov 09 19:51:11 good Nov 09 19:51:11 Im sending the patch to liam girdwood Nov 09 19:51:11 have you seen the newer devres stuff in more recent kernels? I think you'll like that too Nov 09 19:51:24 devres ? Nov 09 19:51:37 I think that's what it's called. let me check Nov 09 19:51:59 did you guys get my post about the DMA coherent memory stuff Nov 09 19:51:59 Spyr1: yeah, devres Nov 09 19:52:08 Spyr1: what list did you send it too? Nov 09 19:52:17 Im trying to prevent it being dropped from the kernel as its needed for a load of our SoCs. Nov 09 19:52:23 LKML and kernel-discuss Nov 09 19:52:23 I think hhkernel must have moved as I don't get mail any more Nov 09 19:52:45 lkml or lakml? Nov 09 19:52:59 LKML Nov 09 19:53:12 ah, I'm behind, 3700+ threads to catch up on Nov 09 19:53:14 e740 and e800 have working ts now Nov 09 19:53:18 great Nov 09 19:53:22 although the y-axis is massively noisy Nov 09 19:53:34 e740 should work but I havent dug it out yet to test Nov 09 19:54:12 e400 isnt done yet (wil probably share the e740 driver as it is very very similar Nov 09 19:54:14 ) Nov 09 19:54:42 niec Nov 09 19:54:43 nice Nov 09 19:54:49 are you going to push to mainline? Nov 09 19:55:46 yes, I hope so Nov 09 19:56:04 Im intending to finish e-series (at least e750) and get EVERYTHING it needs into mainline Nov 09 19:56:14 great Nov 09 19:56:16 then the others will be easy to add one at a time Nov 09 19:56:55 Im a one-man project, hehe :) Nov 09 19:57:01 :-) Nov 09 19:57:24 Im finally getting back into it after being totally demotivated for about 2 years Nov 09 19:57:37 that's good news Nov 09 19:58:03 Im trying to get 'poky' on it but it wont run init Nov 09 19:58:11 is familiar a dead project ? Nov 09 19:58:46 I haven't been following, but if I'm still subscribed to the right lists, not much has been happening Nov 09 19:58:55 indeed Nov 09 19:59:03 Spyr1: angstrom seems to have more momentum Nov 09 19:59:21 we'll see what happens with android Nov 09 19:59:55 whats a good 'generic' distro for a pxa2xx CPU now then ? Nov 09 20:00:25 Spyr1: I'm using angstrom Nov 09 20:00:35 ok Nov 09 20:03:04 mreimer: where can I get a pre-built angstrom rootfs for some random PXA PDA ? Nov 09 20:03:35 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/ Nov 09 20:03:42 cool cheers Nov 09 20:04:17 which hxxxx is closest to e-series - 64-128MB RAM, up to VGA screen Nov 09 20:04:22 PXA CPU Nov 09 20:10:04 Spyr1: is TC6393XB working on 2.6.23? Nov 09 20:10:19 koen: the version in hh.org CVS is Nov 09 20:10:24 thats 2.6.21 Nov 09 20:10:27 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/10/23/handheldsorg-fork-of-kernel/ Nov 09 20:10:38 "marked as non functional " Nov 09 20:11:26 Spyr1: lumag|gone is working on TC6393XB as well, so you could team up for getting it to work with 2.6.23 Nov 09 20:11:29 dont know why, it handles SD on e-series and it works fine on 2.6.21 here (right now) for rootfs Nov 09 20:12:14 koen: can you pass him my email address? Nov 09 20:12:19 spyro at f2s dot com Nov 09 20:14:39 his email is dbaryshkov@gmail.com Nov 09 20:14:53 cheerrs Nov 09 20:17:17 email sent Nov 09 20:19:00 hmm. that angstrom rootfs hangs after 'freeing init memory' too Nov 09 20:21:16 gm Nov 09 20:21:55 hi Nov 09 20:23:27 koen: do you have some time for me (ist about the simpad kernel default version)? Nov 09 20:23:41 mr_nice: woglinde is the simpad guy in OE Nov 09 20:24:14 Spyr1: you kernel isn't EABI? Nov 09 20:24:14 koen: ok Nov 09 20:24:31 woglinde: do you have some time for me? Nov 09 20:24:42 koen possibly not :) Nov 09 20:25:00 was abotu to check that but Kconfig is in a muddle Nov 09 20:25:57 is it possible to compile the openbsd ports tree packages with OE or maybe just the packages that check out of org.openembedded.dev for openbsd (arm architechture), because i have openbsd installed on my zaurus and want to compile programs for it but compiling on the zaurus is too slow, so i want to be able to compile them on slackware which im in now or if i installed openbsd on my computer aswell Nov 09 20:26:10 anyone with ideas or a link that could help me? Nov 09 20:26:41 koen: correct, it isnt Nov 09 20:27:29 Spyr1: try one of the toolchains from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/toolchain/ Nov 09 20:27:32 or use OE :) Nov 09 20:27:47 my toolchain seems to be ok Nov 09 20:28:08 Im using buildroot-ng Nov 09 20:28:48 does angstrom use git? Nov 09 20:28:54 does it have its own kernel repo ? Nov 09 20:30:28 ? Nov 09 20:30:33 angstrom is built from OE Nov 09 20:30:45 ok does oe have its own kernel repo ? Nov 09 20:30:58 no Nov 09 20:31:04 shame Nov 09 20:31:15 it isn't one of those stupid "we must have our own kernel" type of things Nov 09 20:31:15 only reason Im using hh.org now is the kernel repo Nov 09 20:31:26 switch to kernel.org :) Nov 09 20:31:42 I actually think having a kernel repo of my / our own is a good thing Nov 09 20:31:47 but it should be managed with git Nov 09 20:31:51 track mainline closely Nov 09 20:31:55 and be pushed a LOT Nov 09 20:32:12 OE is growing quite a collection of patches last time I looked Nov 09 20:36:23 ok angstrom booting Nov 09 20:36:56 X Nov 09 20:37:14 heh Xtscal didnt work, unsurprisingly... Nov 09 21:09:28 Spyr1: did you get usb host part of tc6393xb working? Nov 09 21:10:01 hrw: almost Nov 09 21:10:15 hrw: but by now I'd be close to having to start again Nov 09 21:11:06 hrw: why? Nov 09 21:11:25 Tosa (zaurus sl-6000L) also use tc6393bx Nov 09 21:11:33 hrw: I see Nov 09 21:11:37 for fb and usb host (and probably few others) Nov 09 21:11:39 hrw: its on my todo :) Nov 09 21:11:46 we have it working under 2.6.23 but without usbhost Nov 09 21:11:54 hrw: Im getting back into the project after a (long!) break Nov 09 21:11:54 host is working in 2.6.17 but not newer Nov 09 21:11:58 I see Nov 09 21:12:01 hrw: nice Nov 09 21:12:11 hrw: I'll have to look and see what broke :) Nov 09 21:12:45 hrw: right now Im writing the ac97 driver for eseries (wm9705 and 9712) Nov 09 21:12:52 9712 is probably close to working Nov 09 21:12:53 Spyr1: OE/packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.23/ can interest you - tmio updates for 2.6.23 Nov 09 21:12:57 9705 isnt done yet Nov 09 21:13:08 Spyr1: 9712 is in tosa and it works iirc Nov 09 21:13:10 hrw: cheers Nov 09 21:13:25 hrw: I know - my e800 driver is based on tosa.c Nov 09 21:13:44 the e750 and e740 kind of are but byt the time theiy are done they wont be :) Nov 09 21:14:05 they uise 9705 for which I need to write a codec driver as no-one else has Nov 09 21:16:12 right - only 9712 is in mainline Nov 09 21:16:24 :) Nov 09 21:16:26 Spyr1: wolfson does not have codec driver for 9705? Nov 09 21:16:31 Im working with liam Nov 09 21:16:37 hrw: correct Nov 09 21:16:38 ah. Nov 09 21:16:55 Spyr1: with liam or in wolfson with liam? Nov 09 21:16:55 hrw: I (today) have updated wm97xx-ts to allow runtime selection of the codec Nov 09 21:17:09 liam from wolfsen Nov 09 21:17:12 son Nov 09 21:17:22 Im pushing my patches at him :) Nov 09 21:18:17 trying openhands poky Nov 09 21:19:31 I work for OpenedHand as Poky developer ;D Nov 09 21:19:51 hrw: Im probably gonna put a e-series distro on my site today / tomorrow Nov 09 21:19:57 it might be the poky image I use Nov 09 21:20:10 distro? why not just angstrom or poky? Nov 09 21:20:27 I will do Nov 09 21:20:33 I would go angstrom even - less work to do (other then using OE) Nov 09 21:20:41 right now I just wanna put something useful on my site for the first time in 2 years Nov 09 21:21:10 you build image, put it on angstrom website, packages to feeds and you get lot of software to install Nov 09 21:21:20 does poky take a long timwe to boofirst time round ? Nov 09 21:21:28 yes Nov 09 21:21:34 ipkg needs to configure packages Nov 09 21:21:37 how long is a long time Nov 09 21:21:56 up to 2-3 minutes for first boot? Nov 09 21:22:15 depends on amount of packages, speed of device and rootfs device Nov 09 21:22:37 the image from the poky site is what Im trying Nov 09 21:23:02 is it possible to disable the splashscreen from the kernel commandline so I can see what its doing ? Nov 09 21:23:10 no Nov 09 21:23:20 bugger Nov 09 21:23:36 grab console-image from angstrom - it does not have psplash iirc Nov 09 21:23:42 or build one by yourself Nov 09 21:23:52 or edit the bootscripts with a card reader :-) Nov 09 21:24:11 ah.. you still boot from SD Nov 09 21:24:20 :) Nov 09 21:24:49 with 2.6 it is much easier Nov 09 21:25:13 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 (p1 vfat with haret) and go Nov 09 21:25:14 ;D Nov 09 21:25:43 hrw: yeah I know. Nov 09 21:25:53 e-series has always been 2.6 based Nov 09 21:25:59 good Nov 09 21:26:09 and I wrote the original SD support in the linux MMC stack :-) Nov 09 21:26:23 ;) Nov 09 21:26:34 aha Nov 09 21:26:42 kernel commmandline option to disable psplash Nov 09 21:26:46 psplash=false Nov 09 21:27:14 ok, it was nice to talk with you after long time but need to go - 22:30 here so I will rather spend time with wife instead of talking on irc Nov 09 21:27:32 ok have fun Nov 09 21:27:35 take care! Nov 09 21:27:40 you too Nov 09 21:27:44 bye for now Nov 09 21:44:37 poky works Nov 09 22:08:09 sakoman, ping Nov 09 22:30:17 hi Crofton Nov 09 22:30:57 gm Nov 09 22:40:22 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rac4a07d5... 10/ (5 files in 5 dirs): davinci-sffsdr : Add support for Lyrtech small form factor SDR board. Nov 09 22:42:08 Crofton: pong Nov 09 22:42:15 congrats on the new job Nov 09 22:42:27 Thanks Nov 09 23:01:13 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r594ee1f1... 10/ (1 packages/libpixman/libpixman_0.9.6.bb): libpixman: Added release 0.9.6, needed by cairo 0.5.2+. Nov 09 23:11:16 whoops duplicate commit. however, x-org pixman seems overdependent Nov 09 23:12:56 likewise, beat me to it (-; Nov 09 23:16:05 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rab9d95c9... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/pixman_0.9.6.bb): pixman: remove false dependency, remove common include. Nov 09 23:17:14 HopsNBarley: hi, whaddayamean? Nov 09 23:18:44 libpixman commit. Nov 09 23:19:34 just went through that add to build kdrive Nov 09 23:25:43 HopsNBarley: Ah, no problem, it's just that I didn't see there where two locations where libpixman was: one in xorg-lib, another in libpixman/ Nov 09 23:26:19 i didn't see that either (-; Nov 09 23:26:20 libpixman builds standalone since 0.9.6, you couldn't know this :-) Nov 09 23:26:34 so I removed a dep and a inc Nov 09 23:26:49 hope i didn't break anything Nov 09 23:26:56 but looks fine here Nov 09 23:27:16 that will fix xorg as far as i'm concerned. Nov 10 00:11:52 HopsNBarley: ok, I did break something, but fix is underway upstream. Signing out and crawling to bed. cya Nov 10 00:26:21 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r58e9f091... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/pixman_0.9.6.bb): pixman: Fix previous cleanup. Removed too much. Nov 10 01:01:04 * * OE Bug 3278 has been created by joshua(AT)willowisp.net Nov 10 01:01:07 * * bitbake ptim-headers fails on bitbake gpephone-image Nov 10 01:01:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3278 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 10 02:59:56 2007