**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 16 02:59:58 2007 Nov 16 06:03:55 hello every one Nov 16 06:13:28 test Nov 16 06:13:50 hello every one Nov 16 07:25:15 gnuplot.desktop: error: value "scientific;" for key "Categories" in group "Desktop Entry" contains an unregistered value "scientific"; values extending the format should start with "X-" Nov 16 07:25:35 where can I look up a list of registered value Nov 16 07:38:35 xjqian: on freedesktop.org Nov 16 07:39:07 morning Nov 16 07:39:16 good morning all Nov 16 07:43:50 koen: thanks, got it http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html Nov 16 08:01:03 morning Nov 16 08:11:59 anyone seen my posting on the mailing list about modifying cflags for packages compiled using the autotools class? still having problems with that.. neither correct include dir nor the correct lib dir is included and I can't figure out how to pass through -I and -L arguments Nov 16 08:18:46 oh,hmmm Nov 16 08:37:05 oebug! 2299 Nov 16 08:37:16 !oebug 2299 Nov 16 08:37:18 * * Bug 2299, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-10 17:19 Nov 16 08:37:19 * * xjqian(AT)gmail.com: gnuplot packaging QA issue Nov 16 08:37:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2299 Nov 16 08:38:06 koen: patch attached to make gnuplot kosher. thanks Nov 16 08:48:40 uhm.. shouldn't the STAGING variable be set in the devshell ? Nov 16 08:49:22 i only see STAGING_IDLDIR and STAGING_SIPDIR Nov 16 09:02:32 sigh Nov 16 09:48:52 how do you create an user that belongs to more than a single group within angstrom ? Nov 16 09:49:20 addgroup use group1 Nov 16 09:49:22 addgroup use group2 Nov 16 09:49:27 morning Nov 16 09:49:33 the same as you would in debian Nov 16 09:50:10 koen: in debian I do not have crippled addgroup ;) Nov 16 09:50:45 ops - its adduser 'USER' 'group' even in debian Nov 16 09:51:00 I thought that 'adduser user gr1 gr2 gr3' is possible Nov 16 09:52:43 koen: friends asks which gsm prepaid in netherlands is best for data transfers Nov 16 09:52:52 s/friends/friend Nov 16 09:53:01 About those missing dependancy problems, some packages are severely fucked. Nov 16 09:53:06 :/ Nov 16 09:53:11 Maemo, for instance Nov 16 09:53:23 prepaid and data transfer are mutually exclusive afaik Nov 16 09:53:50 Where is libhildonbase and libhildonwidgets ? Nov 16 09:54:15 koen: t-mobile do unlimited data transfer for fixed price on pre-paid in UK Nov 16 09:54:17 I've fixed some packages, but others remain Nov 16 09:54:30 Also: Nov 16 09:54:31 ERROR: No providers of runtime build target virtual/xserver (for ['/opt/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/tasks/task-gmae.bb', '/opt/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/tasks/task-gpe.bb']) Nov 16 09:54:42 I thought virtual/xserver is a valid target. Nov 16 09:55:02 (I checked my distro.conf, and it's set allright. Nov 16 09:57:03 hi all! Nov 16 09:57:07 lumag: hi Nov 16 09:57:13 koen: thx Nov 16 09:59:40 Some of these moves seem highly irresponsible, i.e. stuff was removed without consideration for dependancy problems, problems which I'm chasing now. :) Nov 16 10:00:35 I don't track changes in the repo, so I need your help. :) Nov 16 10:00:45 B_Lizzard: so file bugs, it's not rocket science Nov 16 10:01:01 I'm making patches so that I may file the bugs. Nov 16 10:01:04 * koen wonders why people are so opposed to filing bugs Nov 16 10:01:47 I know what the problem is, I just don't know the course of action I am to take in order to fix it. Nov 16 10:01:54 oe should adopt rule #5 and #6 from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ Nov 16 10:02:16 That's why I'm asking you here, in order to make the patch in a way compatible to what OE is used to, and file a bug. Nov 16 10:02:23 hrw: about tosa hardware... I'm currently searching for CE-JC2 jacket. the battery isn't necessary, as I have one. Do you know whether I can get one somewhere/somehow? Nov 16 10:02:52 B_Lizzard: file a bug, and afterwards see if you can patch it Nov 16 10:02:58 Eh Nov 16 10:03:22 I can, but there are certain ways I can. Nov 16 10:04:21 lumag: contact mickeyl - he has jacket for tosa and maybe he will share ;D Nov 16 10:04:57 Say, task-maemo depends upon libhildonbase and libhildonwidgets, which do no longer exist. These seem pretty basic, so, should I find if something else provides them ("hildon-base-lib" maybe?) or just throw the whole of maemo into obsolete? Nov 16 10:04:58 hrw: ok :) Nov 16 10:05:00 :) Nov 16 10:05:20 throw it! Nov 16 10:05:24 kill it! Nov 16 10:05:27 Quite obviously, the second one is not a solution. :D:D Nov 16 10:05:42 So I need to know what provides those two libraries. Nov 16 10:05:46 maemo Nov 16 10:05:50 only maemo Nov 16 10:06:16 maemo-1? Nov 16 10:06:19 OK.... Nov 16 10:06:25 lumag: how to disable/enable usb ports on tosa? Nov 16 10:06:36 lumag: can you write to angstrom ML something about it? Nov 16 10:06:57 To angstrom-user? Nov 16 10:08:07 ys Nov 16 10:08:18 Leaving maemo, isn't virtual/xserver a valid target? Nov 16 10:09:19 ok Nov 16 10:10:11 Maybe I should open a bug report asking about that. Nov 16 10:10:22 That would be a waste of time and resources. Nov 16 10:12:30 hrw, koen: thanks Nov 16 10:13:10 * nud usually uses usermod Nov 16 10:13:24 good morning Nov 16 10:17:30 root@terra:~$ addgroup vphone dialout Nov 16 10:17:30 addgroup: vphone: group already in use Nov 16 10:17:36 this doesnt seem to work though Nov 16 10:19:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1e7d74be... 10/ (1 packages/maemo3 packages/maemo4): maemo: rename maemo3 to maemo4 since it's using most of the chinook API already Nov 16 10:22:51 nud: adduser not addgroup Nov 16 10:23:48 hrw: btw, usbctl now can be dropped from image building (if it's not done already) Nov 16 10:24:25 root@terra:~$ adduser vphone dialout Nov 16 10:24:25 adduser: vphone: login already in use Nov 16 10:28:24 lumag: iirc it was dropped Nov 16 10:29:43 ok Nov 16 10:30:09 * lumag used angstrom images long ago. Nov 16 10:31:29 * lumag just ipkg upgrades Nov 16 10:33:25 I just need to know two things before I post my bug reports, is "virtual/xserver" not valid anymore, and what provides "java-virtual-machine"? Nov 16 10:41:18 On my tosa I moved /usr to CF. So few programs (like loadkeys, psplash, etc.) aren't available when they are used. Is it just unrecommended behaviour or should I fill bugs? Nov 16 10:42:03 lumag: I suggest booting from SD instead Nov 16 10:43:32 Hmm. kernel bootparams line is embedded inside kernel image, isn't it? I would prefer to use non-modified kernel image Nov 16 10:44:19 hrw: btw: is SD on tosa faster than CF? Why do you recommend using it? Nov 16 10:45:13 lumag: into sf slot I can put expansion cards Nov 16 10:45:21 sd only for storage here Nov 16 10:45:38 lumag: and you need to change kernel root option so reflash kernel needed Nov 16 10:47:16 hrw: understood. So I would still prefer to have / on the embedded flash. Maybe altboot is an option? What is it's current state? Nov 16 10:49:58 altboot is workaround Nov 16 10:50:14 if you wand to boot from sd then kernel way is cleaner Nov 16 10:50:55 ok Nov 16 10:51:08 thank's for explanations Nov 16 11:17:30 Commited some patches Nov 16 11:17:40 I still need some input on the questions above Nov 16 11:17:50 If I am to fix task-gmae and task-gpe Nov 16 11:19:40 Also, maemo seems completely borked, someone else must do that, as I do not know how to go through it. Nov 16 11:53:38 mickeyl! Nov 16 11:54:32 mickeyl: can you have a short look at this http://pastebin.com/m6d56d8d4 ? something with python going wrong.. Nov 16 11:55:47 koen|awa2: ping Nov 16 11:56:07 morning folks Nov 16 11:56:34 gilligan_: interesting. Nov 16 11:56:48 gilligan_: ok, so this package calls distutils to get the prefix Nov 16 11:57:09 and bails out since i patched distutils to work w/ cross-compilage Nov 16 11:57:10 easy fix Nov 16 11:57:12 mickeyl: yeah.. it is in the configure.in of mod_python which I am trying to package right now Nov 16 11:57:28 pass BUILD_SYS and HOST_SYS in the environment Nov 16 11:57:30 then it should work Nov 16 11:58:37 mickeyl: I see.. how do I go about getting the correct values for those? :) Nov 16 12:00:34 gilligan_: check distutils.bbclass for hints Nov 16 12:01:04 mickeyl: okay thanks Nov 16 12:01:45 np Nov 16 12:02:48 mickeyl: but actually.. there might be a much easier way to specify the directory ? what it really wants to find is libpython .. and that should be in some staging dir anyway I suppose i could just set it to STAGING_LIB or whatever Nov 16 12:05:07 yeah, you could. but usually something asks distutils for a sysconfig, it also wants that prefix to get the Makefile for compiling additional extension modules Nov 16 12:06:10 morning Nov 16 12:06:40 mickeyl: from what i can tell by looking at the config it just wants to find a prefix so it can prepend it to libpython-${python_version} .. but i see your point Nov 16 12:12:30 mickeyl: ah okay.. so the bitbake environment always has HOST_SYS and BUILD_SYS set.. i just need to export it to the configure process then Nov 16 12:13:30 hi cbrake Nov 16 12:14:57 gilligan_: moin :-) Nov 16 12:15:39 hi cbrake Nov 16 12:28:04 * * OE Bug 3307 has been created by B_Linuz(AT)yahoo.com Nov 16 12:28:07 * * Fix for angstrom-task-sectest Nov 16 12:28:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 Nov 16 12:29:04 * * OE Bug 3308 has been created by B_Linuz(AT)yahoo.com Nov 16 12:29:06 * * Fix for cacao-cldc Nov 16 12:29:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3308 Nov 16 12:29:16 * * OE Bug 3311 has been created by B_Linuz(AT)yahoo.com Nov 16 12:29:18 * * Fix for task-opie-all Nov 16 12:29:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3311 Nov 16 12:29:28 * * OE Bug 3313 has been created by B_Linuz(AT)yahoo.com Nov 16 12:29:30 * * Fix for task-sdk-opie Nov 16 12:29:32 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3313 Nov 16 12:29:40 * * OE Bug 3312 has been created by B_Linuz(AT)yahoo.com Nov 16 12:29:42 * * Fix for task-python-sharprom Nov 16 12:29:44 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3312 Nov 16 12:29:52 * * OE Bug 3310 has been created by B_Linuz(AT)yahoo.com Nov 16 12:29:54 * * Fix for task-native-sdk Nov 16 12:29:56 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3310 Nov 16 12:30:14 morning koen Nov 16 12:30:22 hey mickeyl Nov 16 12:30:34 koen: did you already add jeremy's key? if not, how could i do it. i can't seem to login to ewi Nov 16 12:31:12 it's should accept the same dsa key as you have on linuxtogo Nov 16 12:31:28 Hey cdbot2, I also did flumotion, bug 3309! Nov 16 12:31:39 :) Nov 16 12:32:31 koen: ah, i tried to log in from ltg Nov 16 12:32:35 where i don't have the keys Nov 16 12:32:40 ok, i'm in Nov 16 12:33:02 trying to add his key now Nov 16 12:33:15 mickeyl: setting the variables did the trick btw.thanks.. now i just have to tell apxs to cross compile..because when libtool complained about libpython being in format I realized it was compiling x86 binaries Nov 16 12:34:23 hehe Nov 16 12:34:24 right Nov 16 12:37:13 Bye all! Nov 16 12:44:33 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * rf04ba9d8... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): gnuplot: fix QA errors, unify, add opie terminal, closes #2299 Nov 16 12:45:22 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rba193703... 10/ (7 files in 5 dirs): libtinymail: add 0.0.5, shuffle around no-iconv-detect.patch Nov 16 12:45:25 two distinct things in one commit? ... Nov 16 12:50:40 bad ph5. go sit in the corner Nov 16 12:50:53 mickeyl: why ph5? Nov 16 12:50:56 oh Nov 16 12:50:58 xjqian even Nov 16 12:51:00 who is xjqian? Nov 16 12:51:39 you see me clueless Nov 16 12:53:05 hmm time for a disapprove? Nov 16 12:53:32 too late Nov 16 12:53:55 iirc you can only disapprove a leaf Nov 16 12:54:49 not only Nov 16 12:54:56 let me pull first... Nov 16 12:55:05 * hrw -> shop Nov 16 13:00:41 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r9bdc778b... 10/ (1 packages/tinymail/tmut_1.1.0.bb): tmut: add 1.1.0 Nov 16 13:01:54 /etc/syslog.conf is incompatible with the latest busybox (1.7.2) Nov 16 13:02:08 And it causes syslogd fail at startup Nov 16 13:17:26 gcl : Weird. Can't reproduce it here. I'll do a clean build and recheck Nov 16 13:20:04 * * OE Bug 3314 has been created by hans.ullrich(AT)loop.de Nov 16 13:20:07 * * wireshark: missing icon Nov 16 13:20:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3314 Nov 16 13:42:04 would it be possible to build for msm7x00 arch with OE? Nov 16 13:43:44 whoever came up with apxs for building needs to be shot... Nov 16 13:46:04 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * r25da5fb4... 10/ (1 conf/checksums.ini): checksums.ini: Add some new checksums. Nov 16 13:50:10 hmmm Nov 16 13:50:19 as expected we need to catch up with the changes in mb-wm Nov 16 13:50:21 :/ Nov 16 13:50:28 didn't i ask exactly that yesterday? Nov 16 13:50:36 and the consensus was "no" Nov 16 13:51:04 mickeyl: :-( image I built yesterday worked Nov 16 13:51:12 mickeyl: clean build didnt Nov 16 13:51:36 matchbox-wm starts Nov 16 13:51:41 but doesn't execute the session script Nov 16 13:51:43 so nothing pops up Nov 16 13:52:11 it seems my suggestion of "fix mb-desktop to read datadir/today" turns out to be the correct one Nov 16 13:53:08 mickeyl: the quick fix is to have om-session u-a to x-wm Nov 16 13:53:20 but that's not real nice Nov 16 13:53:23 hmm Nov 16 13:53:28 i don't understand Nov 16 13:53:31 matchbox-window-manager starts Nov 16 13:53:37 but it doesn't read /etc/matchbox-session Nov 16 13:53:44 how would u-a x-wm fix that? Nov 16 13:53:45 it never did afaik Nov 16 13:53:54 oh Nov 16 13:54:01 what does it read? Nov 16 13:54:15 since x-wm was linked to {bindir}/matchbox-session, which read that Nov 16 13:54:48 fun Nov 16 13:54:52 the consensus yesterday was that x-wm may only be linked to an actual wm and people should do session stuff themselves Nov 16 13:55:01 i agree with that Nov 16 13:55:11 then where should the session stuff be started from? Nov 16 13:55:14 Xinit.d ? Nov 16 13:55:22 the dm ideally Nov 16 13:55:45 but since gpe is a bad word in OH land, openmoko has this crappy shell script to start x instead of a dm Nov 16 13:56:29 hmm Nov 16 13:56:35 * mickeyl tries /etc/X11/Xsession.d Nov 16 13:56:42 I propose to ship a {bindir}/x11-session script under u-a control that gets started from gpe-dm or the ohand thing Nov 16 13:57:21 as a medium term solution Nov 16 13:57:32 sounds reasonable to me Nov 16 13:59:36 hmm Nov 16 13:59:36 hi, any idea why "bitbake meta-opie" will still try to build libxine-x11 even though I have "PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/libxine:libxine-fb"" in conf/local.conf ? Nov 16 14:01:20 re Nov 16 14:01:29 hi hrw Nov 16 14:03:30 fun. xinit is not used at all either Nov 16 14:05:04 * * OE Bug 3315 has been created by hans.ullrich(AT)loop.de Nov 16 14:05:06 * * gpe-conf xxx does not work (akita) Nov 16 14:05:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3315 Nov 16 14:05:17 * * OE Bug 3316 has been created by hans.ullrich(AT)loop.de Nov 16 14:05:19 * * linphone does not start (akita) Nov 16 14:05:21 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3316 Nov 16 14:05:29 * * OE Bug 3317 has been created by hans.ullrich(AT)loop.de Nov 16 14:05:31 * * clawas-mail: Plugins cannot be started (akita) Nov 16 14:05:33 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3317 Nov 16 14:07:05 * * OE Bug 2299 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by koen(AT)openembedded.org Nov 16 14:07:07 * *  gnuplot packaging QA issue Nov 16 14:07:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2299 Nov 16 14:08:18 XorA: ok, how do we fix that then? Nov 16 14:13:59 i guess I'll revert my OE db to before koen's change to get the snapshot done Nov 16 14:38:08 XorA: next commit is for you :) Nov 16 14:39:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rccb8e606... 10/ (1 packages/gtk-webcore/midori_0.0.11.bb): midori: update to 0.11 Nov 16 14:45:25 mickeyl: sorry machine totally overheated and died (my personal one) Nov 16 14:45:31 hey koen Nov 16 14:45:33 got a sec? Nov 16 14:45:54 * mwester wonders if the preceeding conversation indicates that the openmoko image he built a few hours ago may not be particularly good... Nov 16 14:46:23 XorA: no problem Nov 16 14:46:35 our buildhost seem to compile images where pulseaudio works Nov 16 14:46:37 so i'm using this for the snapshot now Nov 16 14:46:45 afterwards there's time to look into the pa issue Nov 16 14:46:50 * XorA needs to find out why this happens as the core temp doesnt seem to be that high Nov 16 14:46:50 mickeyl: does today starts with it? Nov 16 14:47:12 yes, i'm using a rev. before the mb change Nov 16 14:47:34 * mwester suggests that XorA check the memory temp in that case. Nov 16 14:47:58 mwester: no thermal probe on memory Nov 16 14:48:05 mwester: and no cash for new case fan :-( Nov 16 14:48:18 mickeyl: Can we tag the sources used for the image? Nov 16 14:49:09 hmm i don't know whether a snapshot qualifies for taggin sources Nov 16 14:49:16 we have the information in the pkg names Nov 16 14:49:56 XorA: Same here. I figured out that the memory was the problem when I burnt my finger on it (RDRAM). I opened up an empty 5 1/4" CDROM slot, and use twist ties to hold an old 80mm fan to the disk mounting brackets to circulate air over the memory. Ugly, ugly, ugly, but it now works. Nov 16 14:50:11 mwester: microATX case :-( Nov 16 14:50:18 mickeyl: I have high hopes for the quality of this snapshot! :) Nov 16 14:50:27 XorA: Ouch. Nov 16 14:54:28 mwester: sorry to disappoint you Nov 16 14:54:51 Oh, don't say that! Nov 16 14:54:51 there's a ton of issues left Nov 16 14:55:09 but i have no time continuing on these. i'm going to work on the tools for the rest of this year Nov 16 14:55:41 Of course there are issues left - the question is if it serves as a better baseline for solving the issues? Nov 16 14:55:41 so i hope someone else works on integration improvements during that period Nov 16 14:55:52 mickeyl : hi ! seen my pm ? Nov 16 14:55:57 ya Nov 16 14:56:04 steliosk: jeremy has access now Nov 16 14:56:13 steliosk: how do you want the invoice? Nov 16 14:56:14 * mwester is *NOT* a gui person, but that full-screen openmoko clock HAS GOT TO GO!!!! Nov 16 14:56:14 pdf? Nov 16 14:56:15 sweetness, avr32 support got merged upstream in uclibc Nov 16 14:56:26 mickeyl : pdf would be fine Nov 16 14:56:32 hmm, ok, i'll scan it then Nov 16 14:56:34 XorA: move /etc/matchbox/session into /etc/X11/XSession.d/85mb-session and drop /etc/X11/XSession.d/90* Nov 16 14:56:47 XorA: it will give you working x11 session with current packages Nov 16 14:57:08 hi steliosk Nov 16 14:57:59 XorA: ofcourse panel applets will not get fixed with it Nov 16 14:58:47 but whole session will start Nov 16 14:59:29 hrw : hi Nov 16 15:03:02 heh thess golf state based funds buy one company after the other Nov 16 15:03:37 looks like the 100$ per barrel left them with a "few change to spare" Nov 16 15:05:12 * chouimat|work is not impressed by vmware server 2.0 new interface Nov 16 15:14:17 one quetison which recipe will bring me the arp binary ? Nov 16 15:14:47 Sigh... "Pleae wait..." I presume this is the symptom of the X session problem just introduced? Nov 16 15:19:07 yes Nov 16 15:21:29 Is koen going to fix this? revert the change? Nov 16 15:21:55 why koen? XorA is openmoko guy Nov 16 15:22:04 16 15:57 < hrw> XorA: move /etc/matchbox/session into /etc/X11/XSession.d/85mb-session and drop /etc/X11/XSession.d/90* Nov 16 15:22:18 Anyone around that's got a minute that's used the package up staging dir stuff? Nov 16 15:22:18 this is fast soution Nov 16 15:23:20 * XorA is investigating now Nov 16 15:23:27 please give me time to look Nov 16 15:24:19 hrw: the log implied that koen committed the change that broke it, so I assumed that koen would be the one to resolve it. My mistake, I guess. Nov 16 15:32:50 what makes angstrom-version build every time you build a new image? Nov 16 15:35:58 ahh, PV changes because the date is included :-) Nov 16 15:53:40 cbrake: indirection & substitution ftw! :) Nov 16 16:10:43 openmoko-session2 is fixed Nov 16 16:15:38 03xora 07org.oe.dev * ra34feb8c... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko2/openmoko-session2.bb): openmoko-session2.bb : install out window manager script using update-alternatives. Fixes no openmoko-today2 problem Nov 16 16:15:38 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r5668f966... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fuse: add 2.7.1 Nov 16 16:16:21 with 'fixed' you mean 'worked around' Nov 16 16:16:53 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r1ff3922b... 10/ (1 site/arm-common site/arm-linux): site/arm-*: add getgrgid for gio Nov 16 16:16:58 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r3b9fd83e... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/gio-standalone_0.1.2.bb): gio-standalone: add 0.1.2, a file and I/O abstraction library Nov 16 16:17:16 koen: we made a matchbox-common replacement, therefor replacement should do what matchbox-common does Nov 16 16:17:55 [14:54] koen: the consensus yesterday was that x-wm may only be linked to an actual wm and people should do session stuff themselves Nov 16 16:17:55 [14:55] mickeyl: i agree with that Nov 16 16:18:00 koen: it would be the same fix, I could rename matchbox-session to any file, but it make no difference, xserver-kdrive-common expects to find something called x-window-manager Nov 16 16:18:53 window managers dont do sessions Nov 16 16:18:59 poky got busybox 1.8.1 Nov 16 16:19:12 so in fact the bug is x-window-manager should be called x-session-manager Nov 16 16:19:38 no, kdrive-common should not expert wms to do sessions Nov 16 16:21:54 * mwester attempts to follow that X discussion, and his head explodes. Nov 16 16:22:06 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rd7739194... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/gio-standalone_0.1.2.bb): gio-standalone: add do_stage function Nov 16 16:22:29 * mwester resolves to stick with simple stuff, like the kernel and busybox Nov 16 16:36:52 cbrake: ping Nov 16 16:37:05 * * OE Bug 3318 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Nov 16 16:37:07 * * module-init-tools-cross-3.2.2-r3-do_configure Nov 16 16:37:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3318 Nov 16 16:39:08 nud: hello Nov 16 16:39:19 cbrake: hello! Nov 16 16:39:21 how goes ? Nov 16 16:39:34 nud: can't complain :-) -- and you? Nov 16 16:40:00 cbrake: quite well, despite I still have an issue with the sound input on the cm-x270 Nov 16 16:40:04 * * OE Bug 3319 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Nov 16 16:40:06 * * elf2flt-0.0+svnr1786-r0-do_compile Nov 16 16:40:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3319 Nov 16 16:40:13 cbrake: you have a sb-x270 board, haven't you ? Nov 16 16:41:51 nud: yes Nov 16 16:42:19 nud: I had some problems with 2.6.22 and sound, but it seems to be working with 2.6.23 again Nov 16 16:42:41 nud: if I recall, arecord would not work with 2.6.22 Nov 16 16:42:46 mh Nov 16 16:43:00 maybe I should try an up-to-date OE as well Nov 16 16:43:12 nud: can't hurt Nov 16 16:43:17 depends Nov 16 16:43:19 * too bad :-) Nov 16 16:43:37 last time I tried nothing worked for some reasons I didn't investigate Nov 16 16:43:49 alsa really sucks hard Nov 16 16:44:23 well, in fact I also have issues with V4L2, and with the em28xx driver that allocates memory in non-ARM-friendly way Nov 16 16:44:35 but that's another story ;-) Nov 16 16:46:30 cbrake: might I ask you how you connect the microphone on the board ? Nov 16 16:46:53 I know it's in the docs, but... I don't know what to look Nov 16 16:47:02 to get it working I mean Nov 16 16:47:38 nud: I've only connected a MIC to a custom board Nov 16 16:47:47 ah, ok Nov 16 16:48:01 and gilligan is not there... Nov 16 16:48:06 nud: however, I don't recommend connecting a MIC directly to the cm-x270 pins as the signal level is too low Nov 16 16:48:19 mmh ? Nov 16 16:48:27 nud: you really need to amplify it in a clean section of your baseboard and then run a line-level signal to the cm-x270 Nov 16 16:48:30 well there'll be an amplifier Nov 16 16:48:37 but I'd like to test with a regular microphone Nov 16 16:48:48 even if I have to put the capture volume to 100% Nov 16 16:49:22 nud: well, you could run a mic through your PC, and run the line level signal into the CM-X270 audio intput pins Nov 16 16:49:31 nud: this would simulate a amplified MIC pretty well Nov 16 16:49:40 nud: mics that connect to PC's are not amplified Nov 16 16:51:59 I'm pretty sure I heard some sound someday Nov 16 16:52:43 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r6fc0c963... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/gvfs_0.0.2.bb): gvfs: add 0.0.2, a userspace virtual filesystem Nov 16 16:54:50 cbrake: I also had a strange issue where I have to use rtscts to make serial communication through ttyS1 work correctly Nov 16 16:55:03 despite the other device just doesn't know about that.. Nov 16 16:56:06 nud: if you do want to connect a MIC directly, you'll need a patch to enable the 20db gain in the UCB1400 -- did I send that to you already? Nov 16 16:56:24 I think Nov 16 16:56:30 but I don't think I've ever used it Nov 16 16:56:35 could you send it to me again ? :-) Nov 16 16:57:03 nud: sure, I need to add it OE as well Nov 16 16:57:41 ~lart pulse for using libsndfile which is just plain broken crap Nov 16 16:57:41 * ibot strangles pulse with a 9-pole serial cable for using libsndfile which is just plain broken crap Nov 16 17:30:18 cbrake: the patch is to be applied with patch=1;pnum=$order or patch=$order;pnum=0 ? Nov 16 17:30:21 * nud does never know Nov 16 17:31:34 nud: file://0014-ucb1400-20db-mic-gain.patch;patch=1 Nov 16 17:31:41 ok Nov 16 17:31:43 thanks Nov 16 17:32:58 bye Nov 16 17:34:15 * nud hopes it will work with the old compulab-pxa270 package he uses Nov 16 17:45:31 Hey, who maintains the dreambox branch of OE? Nov 16 17:48:02 ggilbert: tmbinc, but it's being merged into .dev by zecke and steliosk Nov 16 17:49:20 ah k. Thanks Nov 16 18:07:34 gm Nov 16 18:37:38 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rc1fa7304... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/useen_svn.bb): useen: Add svn recipe Nov 16 18:37:42 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r63a3f2a7... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/firewall_svn.bb): firewall: Add svn recipe Nov 16 19:13:39 * XorA|gone finds something ironic in http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden Nov 16 19:13:56 * Bernardo bangs head on desk - sandisk plus cf broken again on the akita Nov 16 19:15:43 XorA|gone: I had that update today, and didn't get a forbidden Nov 16 19:16:10 Yeah, me too. :/ Nov 16 19:16:47 * Bernardo weeps - even the keyboard seems to have been broken (no cursor) in opie 1.2.3cvs... :( Nov 16 19:19:12 Bernardo: still ironic though Nov 16 19:22:41 Bernardo: cant help with the Sandisk, sold mine with zaurus Nov 16 19:26:21 I had this before, I'm trying to find how it was solved prior Nov 16 19:27:56 and trying to find my usb-serial adapter so that I can connect a zaurus serial cable... :) Nov 16 19:31:01 XorA|gone: Oh no you didn't sell the Z :O Nov 16 19:31:19 shame! Nov 16 19:32:37 Traitor! :D Nov 16 19:32:49 * XorA|gone still has 4 of the damn things :-) Nov 16 19:40:32 XorA|gone: which one did you sell? Nov 16 19:40:39 c860 Nov 16 19:45:10 desktop-file-utils-native? Nov 16 19:47:53 ah, insane class changes :-) Nov 16 19:54:12 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r87340602... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): squashfs-tools: Added release 3.3. Nov 16 20:26:13 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r01e31e6c... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): squashfs-tools: Fix; move PV from .inc into .bb. Nov 16 21:09:42 http://members.fcac.org/~gmoss/Fhwa/ Nov 16 21:13:10 Crofton ouch Nov 16 21:16:09 hi gremlin[it] Nov 16 21:16:45 hi flatronf701C Nov 16 21:18:01 house bridge Nov 16 21:18:52 Crofton i'm really impressed by this architectural thingy Nov 16 21:19:19 they need stairs down to a dock Nov 16 21:19:48 Crofton it's nice they got running water Nov 16 21:20:11 and sewage ... Nov 16 21:20:44 hi flo_lap Nov 16 21:20:56 hi Crofton ! Nov 16 21:24:09 hi Nov 16 22:13:46 Bernardo: Connect+ crash is because the fix is missing from 2.6.22 and 2.6.23 kernels Nov 16 22:45:31 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r7299860d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Nov 16 22:45:31 linux-rp_2.6.23.bb : add missing patch to prevent connect+ cards from Nov 16 22:45:31 oopsis on insert. Nov 16 22:46:16 Bernardo: and there try that now Nov 16 22:51:51 volatiles is broken -- so /var/tmp and /var/ is on flash now in SlugOS and OpenMoko (and everything else that uses /var/volatiles). Nov 16 22:52:34 Anyone know anything about recent changes to packaging or rootfs creation that might have left /var populated with directories? Nov 16 23:05:15 XorA|gone: thanks, I was just about to let it all rebuilding during the night Nov 16 23:06:02 bbl Nov 16 23:06:09 * Bernardo is away: Ausente por agora. Nov 16 23:21:09 is there any way to download a list of paths inside a file with the wget in busybox? Nov 16 23:54:27 Crofton: ping! Nov 16 23:55:28 I've seen several folks here mention using site.conf Nov 16 23:55:40 I can't find any mention of it in the docs! Nov 16 23:56:14 Any pointers on how to set things up to use a site.conf file? Nov 17 00:04:47 sakoman_: this site has a little on site.conf http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Sigra0dPdxsJ:haerwu.biz/blog/category/openembedded-howtos/+openembedded+site.conf&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us&client=opera Nov 17 00:06:35 scruggs: I saw that one -- I've tried creating a site.conf but its contents don't seem to be picked up during the build process Nov 17 00:07:12 I have a feeling that changes are required elsewhere to enable it Nov 17 00:41:52 repo browser broken! Nov 17 00:42:28 oh no, its back Nov 17 01:02:15 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r1c6d2b9e... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 17 01:02:15 Fix python 2.5 manifest: Nov 17 01:02:15 * fix/simplify generate-manifest-2.5.py Nov 17 01:02:15 * add missing dependencies for python-logging (Closes: #3272) Nov 17 01:02:15 * add struct.py to python-core (Closes: #3296) Nov 17 01:02:15 * add missing files to python-crypt (Closes: #3303) Nov 17 01:37:04 * * OE Bug has been RESOLVED by jeremy.laine(AT)bolloretelecom.eu Nov 17 01:37:06 * *  python-crypt 2.5 has an incorrect FILES definition Nov 17 01:37:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id= Nov 17 01:38:04 * * OE Bug has been RESOLVED by jeremy.laine(AT)bolloretelecom.eu Nov 17 01:38:06 * *  python-core is missing struct.py Nov 17 01:38:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id= Nov 17 01:38:16 * * OE Bug has been RESOLVED by jeremy.laine(AT)bolloretelecom.eu Nov 17 01:38:18 * *  python-logging is missing some dependencies Nov 17 01:38:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id= **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 17 02:59:57 2007