**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 22 02:59:56 2007 Nov 22 04:46:05 * * OE Bug 3351 has been created by hvontres(AT)gmail.com Nov 22 04:46:07 * * zImage-2.6.23-poodle-20071117021844.bin crashes on boot Nov 22 04:46:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3351 Nov 22 06:14:13 morning! Nov 22 07:25:14 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r1c277b9c... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Nov 22 07:25:14 SlugOS: ixp4xx-kernel - added 2.6.23.8 recipe and supporting files. (Note that Nov 22 07:25:14 SlugOS still selects 2.6.21 as the preferred version for now.) Nov 22 08:24:18 would it be better/easier to install OE under a vmware virtual machine(vmware fusion) than to install natively to OS X? Nov 22 08:25:32 summatusmentis: check with zecke or koen Nov 22 08:26:14 hvontres|home: do you have any idea how they do it? Nov 22 08:27:09 summatusmentis: nope. I am not a mac person...:) Nov 22 08:27:21 * hvontres|home prefers to defenestrate PC's Nov 22 08:28:49 lol, alright, I'll ask them during realistic hours Nov 22 08:29:00 judging by the lack of their responses, I assume they're doing something Nov 22 08:29:28 sleeping :-) Nov 22 08:29:35 'morning all Nov 22 08:29:40 summatusmentis: actually, it's 9:30 am over there... so they should be up :) Nov 22 08:29:56 yes, vmware or parallels would be the easiest option Nov 22 08:30:58 hvontres|home: thanks :-D Nov 22 08:30:58 koen: easiest == best? Nov 22 08:30:58 or not necessarily? Nov 22 08:31:04 hvontres|home: bah, those .eu people are known for sleeping :-) Nov 22 08:31:13 XorA: heh.. Nov 22 08:34:09 XorA: well, time for me to turn in...it's 0:33 here and later today is Turkey day :) Nov 22 08:35:09 psh... no excuses... it's 3:33 here, and later today is Turkey day :-D Nov 22 08:35:41 summatusmentis: yeah, but are you hosting the feast or just eating ? :P Nov 22 08:35:50 good morning all Nov 22 08:36:15 n8 y'all Nov 22 08:37:03 hvontres|zzZZzz: : I mean... it's at my house... but I'm just a poor college student Nov 22 08:37:03 sleep well Nov 22 08:37:23 * summatusmentis ponders waiting to get back to school before downloading an ubuntu iso Nov 22 08:37:41 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rba9d1d72... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): angstrom-2007-preferred-versions: adjust versions to match feeds, as discussed on the angstrom-dev mailinglist Nov 22 08:39:11 goodnight all Nov 22 08:42:16 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb239acc3... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.23.bb): linux-rp 2.6.23: bump PR to force rebuild to get gcc fix Nov 22 08:45:16 koen: Weird bug, maybe it should be in bugs.oe instead: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1019 Nov 22 08:46:33 must be a bug in the makefile ;) Nov 22 08:46:40 Hehe ;) Nov 22 08:49:04 * * OE Bug 3352 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Nov 22 08:49:06 * * xserver-kdrive-1.3.0.0-r20-do_compile Nov 22 08:49:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3352 Nov 22 08:51:28 looks like a stack issue Nov 22 09:01:00 hiya Nov 22 09:04:26 steliosk: did you try a glibc build from scratch for ppc405 yet? Nov 22 09:09:10 koen : not for angstrom Nov 22 09:09:36 koen : sorry i though uclibc Nov 22 09:09:54 koen : yes it builds, including x11-image Nov 22 09:10:23 * steliosk mumbles something about sleep deprivation Nov 22 09:11:09 glibc* fails to build on the autobuilder after the gcc change Nov 22 09:11:59 what kind of error ? Nov 22 09:27:15 steliosk: hmmm, the autobuilder lacks logs: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3347 Nov 22 09:28:15 koen : I'll try again but it build clean here Nov 22 09:34:23 morning Nov 22 09:36:17 koen: ftp://ftp.rpm.org/pub/rpm/dist/rpm-4.1.x/popt-1.7.tar.gz is timeouting ... know any other URI to use? Nov 22 09:36:40 koen: I've used Debian archive to get it but would be nice to change the bb file to use a working feed Nov 22 09:37:18 otavio: use DISTRO=angstrom-2007.1 Nov 22 09:37:37 that has a source mirror for almost all source files Nov 22 09:38:52 I'm writing my own .. can you poiint me to the one?? Nov 22 09:39:38 writing your own what? Nov 22 09:39:50 koen: anyway, popt could use a working SRC_URI so people could get it without problem Nov 22 09:39:58 koen: distro definition :-) Nov 22 09:40:01 why? Nov 22 09:40:17 why do people insist on being 'special' and needing their own distro? Nov 22 09:40:59 koen: to try to reduze the needed packages and like Nov 22 09:41:12 koen: why it is bad? Nov 22 09:41:13 that's not distro territory Nov 22 09:41:21 that's what images are for Nov 22 09:42:06 you mean I wouldn't maintain the distro? Nov 22 09:42:19 I have an angstrom image that is like 800kB Nov 22 09:42:24 what's the distro territory then? Nov 22 09:42:32 dunno how you want to reduce needed packages any further from that Nov 22 09:45:53 where to send ipkg bug/fixes upstream? Nov 22 09:46:30 esben_: there isn't really an upstream anymore Nov 22 09:46:46 esben_: ipkg is basically maintained in OE nowadays :( Nov 22 09:46:52 koen: could you explain to me what's the distro needing then? Why someone could need to "write" one definition? Nov 22 09:47:13 otavio: a distro sets policy, like compiler and c library versions Nov 22 09:47:44 koen: any other thing that could be done there? Nov 22 09:48:02 koen: I found that machine changes what task-base will include .. too Nov 22 09:48:22 right, but no-one is forcing you to use task-base Nov 22 09:48:38 koen: but there are active OE developers with write access to the ipkg cvs repos? Nov 22 09:48:47 koen: yes, but it looks to be the easier way to be up to date Nov 22 09:48:49 esben_: there aren't Nov 22 09:49:06 argh. Nov 22 09:49:26 sounds like something that should be done something about.... Nov 22 09:49:47 we use it, so it cannot be dead in that way :-( Nov 22 09:50:05 esben_: every now and then we suggest just to fork it :) Nov 22 09:50:22 put all ipkg sources in OE and be done with it Nov 22 09:50:41 koen: fork looks to be the easiest and more logical in this case Nov 22 09:50:50 koen: but as I understand it, OE metadata should stay.... metadata. Nov 22 09:51:07 and as such, actual code repositories should be outside OE MTN. Nov 22 09:51:11 esben_: but it could be kept on the website, not on metadata Nov 22 09:51:32 esben_: true, but we already have complete sources in OE already Nov 22 09:51:43 otavio: website is not really the preferred CM choice for most people... Nov 22 09:51:53 CM ? Nov 22 09:52:30 * CM isn't a choice for most people.. :( Nov 22 09:52:35 :P Nov 22 09:53:23 if you fork an existing codebase because of lack of write access, you have the choice :-) Nov 22 09:54:14 is there any special reason that ther's no linux-libc-headers 2.4.x package? Nov 22 09:54:39 nik0n: because there is no need for it Nov 22 09:55:14 koen: well u can have a 2.4 kernel system with a uclibc compiled against 2.6 kernel headers? Nov 22 09:55:41 yes Nov 22 09:56:02 this didnt work out for me, with busybox ifconfig wasnt possible, always told me that AF_INET is not availible Nov 22 09:56:10 nik0n: it's used to identify syscalls and like ... don't see why it wouldn't be possible Nov 22 09:56:11 so no socket could be opened Nov 22 09:56:33 im trying the same now with 2.4.25 headers Nov 22 10:02:55 koen: where in OE is the complete sources for ipkg? Nov 22 10:02:56 ipkg_0.99.163.bb pulls it from www.handhelds.org... Nov 22 10:03:17 the source isn't in OE (uet) Nov 22 10:04:05 are there anyone in OE community that has "ownership" or something like that for ipkg? Nov 22 10:05:01 not that I know off Nov 22 10:06:54 what about any active usage of ipkg outside OE? Nov 22 10:08:03 I think maemo uses ipkg despite not being based on OE at first Nov 22 10:08:31 ok Nov 22 10:09:39 How could I identify _why_ so many tasks are queued when I run 'bitbake bootstrap-image'? It looks like a huge number and takes forever to build (say 1448 tasks to be done) Nov 22 10:09:40 maemo uses apt, not ipkg Nov 22 10:24:26 koen: apt+dpkg? Nov 22 10:24:33 esben_: yes Nov 22 10:24:42 esben_: they're Debian based Nov 22 10:24:43 ok Nov 22 10:25:01 esben_: yes, apt+dpkg, but with 'custom' extensions Nov 22 10:25:07 esben_: they even use Debian buildd similar infrastruture to build the packages Nov 22 10:25:44 morning Nov 22 10:26:36 hey hrw Nov 22 10:28:13 hrw: morning Nov 22 10:35:21 does someone know how to compile the bttv drivers on ARM (cm-x270) ? there is no menu entry in make menuconfig for it... Nov 22 10:36:32 nud: really? Nov 22 10:36:41 hrw: or I'm blind Nov 22 10:36:57 tried "/" and then "bttv"? Nov 22 10:37:02 yes Nov 22 10:37:11 but the menu entry is not there Nov 22 10:37:31 I see it Nov 22 10:37:41 device drivers -> multimedia -> video 4 linux Nov 22 10:37:46 yes Nov 22 10:37:49 bt848 ? Nov 22 10:37:56 yes Nov 22 10:37:59 mh Nov 22 10:38:00 strange Nov 22 10:38:05 │ Depends on: HAS_IOMEM && VIDEO_CAPTURE_DRIVERS && VIDEO_DEV && PCI && I2C && VIDEO_V4L1 │ Nov 22 10:38:07 what kernel version ? Nov 22 10:38:18 2.6.24-rc3-git Nov 22 10:38:27 oh, bleeding edge Nov 22 10:38:31 I have 2.6.22 here Nov 22 10:38:57 nud: does cm-x270 has pci? no Nov 22 10:39:09 it has pc104 Nov 22 10:39:12 bttv is for PCI cards only Nov 22 10:39:22 pc104+ Nov 22 10:39:34 I have a pc104+ card with a bttv chip on it Nov 22 10:39:35 is not pc104 formfactor? Nov 22 10:39:56 which is known to work with linux x86 Nov 22 10:40:04 but I will check pci is enabled Nov 22 10:40:15 but x86 has pci signals on pc104 slot Nov 22 10:40:28 arm has not ? Nov 22 10:40:30 and cm-x270 has cpu which lack pci controler Nov 22 10:40:43 why do they chip the port then ? Nov 22 10:41:11 isn't compulab using minipci on some boards? Nov 22 10:41:19 you ave cm-x270 or sbc-x270? Nov 22 10:41:29 hrw: sbc-x270 Nov 22 10:41:33 * koen <- PCI n00b Nov 22 10:41:35 with a cm-x270 on it Nov 22 10:42:09 The SBC-X270 is a standard PC/104+ compliant, single board computer. It is implemented by CM-X270 module providing most of the functions, including an integrated wireless LAN (WiFi) interface. The SB-X270 carrier board providing connectors and several additional functions. Nov 22 10:42:24 nud: cm-x270 != sbc-x270 Nov 22 10:42:29 ah Nov 22 10:42:44 * Genesis use compulab CM-iGLX and have no minipci Nov 22 10:44:10 hrw: thanks, activating pci support showed the driver Nov 22 10:45:05 I thought the SB-X270 was the canonical way to develop for a CM-X270 Nov 22 10:45:10 according to reference guide of sbc-x270 it has pci and isa on pc104 slots Nov 22 10:45:30 nud: sbc-x270 is a board to use cm-x270 features in pc104 cases Nov 22 10:47:39 compulab does custom boards based on a stripped SBX doesn't it ? Nov 22 10:51:06 no idea Nov 22 10:52:26 http://pastebin.ca/793523 - koen, mickey_away, RP: opinions? Nov 22 10:55:27 mmh Nov 22 10:56:05 no rule to make target arch/arm/mach-pxa/cm-x270-pci.o Nov 22 10:59:20 hrw: Ugly but probably needed... Nov 22 11:01:22 cbrake_away: are you there ? Nov 22 11:02:40 koen: ? Nov 22 11:12:49 * koen looks Nov 22 11:14:04 hrw: does that work with multimachine? Nov 22 11:14:33 e.g. will it build task-raid if I switch to a machine that has it in M_F? Nov 22 11:14:44 (other than that, no objections) Nov 22 11:15:27 koen: this is how we have that in poky - task-base is machine related always Nov 22 11:19:23 ~lart bluez Nov 22 11:19:23 * ibot throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at bluez Nov 22 11:19:37 ~curse kde-bluetooth Nov 22 11:19:38 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, kde-bluetooth ! Nov 22 11:25:35 cbrake_away: ping Nov 22 11:25:53 hrw: in that case, go ahead and commit it :P) Nov 22 11:28:07 s/P// Nov 22 11:28:07 It does reduce the number of tasks :-) Nov 22 11:28:29 * otavio starting to understand the build process :-) Nov 22 11:28:31 ~curse bluez again Nov 22 11:28:32 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, bluez again ! Nov 22 11:28:41 heh heh I think HRW does not like bluez Nov 22 11:28:55 * otavio thinks oe is a bit complicate :-) Nov 22 11:29:06 this fscking crap lack ANY pairing tool Nov 22 11:35:39 re Nov 22 11:35:53 Why would you need that? Nov 22 11:37:06 ? Nov 22 11:37:21 Pairing for bluetooth. Nov 22 11:37:31 :P Nov 22 11:38:00 hi! Nov 22 11:38:02 because my phones require pairing? Nov 22 11:38:50 Like most bluetooth devices - seems a bit of a crazy omission. Nov 22 11:42:14 linux has poor mans bluetooth support :-( Nov 22 11:43:59 morning Nov 22 11:44:41 doesn't bluez-gnome do pairing? Nov 22 11:45:28 * esben_ weeps Nov 22 11:46:10 ipkg install is broken under cygwin, but works when run under gdb on cygwin. Nov 22 11:46:35 looks like a timing issue in gz_close with relation to kill SIGTERM :-( Nov 22 12:17:06 hi all Nov 22 12:17:10 hey likewise Nov 22 12:17:18 Jin^eLD: hey there! Nov 22 12:18:08 cygwin sucks Nov 22 12:22:54 yo likewise :) Nov 22 12:23:13 esben_ : is you that work on windows OE port ? Nov 22 12:24:12 yes, and .... Nov 22 12:24:26 * esben_ does a little dance Nov 22 12:24:46 and I just got a meta-toolchain to build a nice little .tar.bz2 file :-) Nov 22 12:25:37 Genesis: hey Nov 22 12:26:13 I feel quite confident that we shouldn't try to go further than that. I don't believe it will be worth the effort to be able to build images under cygwin. Nov 22 12:28:00 koen : any idea why i would get a waring " can not start initial console" when udev tries to start ? Nov 22 12:28:48 steliosk: missing /dev/console in the rootfs? Nov 22 12:29:27 koen : though of that but etc/device_tables has a /dev/console entry Nov 22 12:30:01 xjqian: I fear you didn't push your commit to gcc Nov 22 12:35:38 perharps qemu is a better solution that native OE port Nov 22 12:38:32 steliosk: don't you need /dev/console in rootfs anyway? Nov 22 12:40:48 03olvaffe 07org.oe.dev * r99cdb00e... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): xserver-kdrive_1.3.0.0.bb : fix x86 breakage with glamo patch Nov 22 12:48:04 * * OE Bug 3352 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by dp(AT)xora.org.uk Nov 22 12:48:06 * *  xserver-kdrive-1.3.0.0-r20-do_compile Nov 22 12:48:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3352 Nov 22 13:01:38 Anyone got an advice on a small robust FTP server which is in OE? Nov 22 13:02:02 I only know that vsftp is in Nov 22 13:02:09 no idea if it's small or robust Nov 22 13:02:13 busybox does not have ftpd? Nov 22 13:02:42 hrw: There was the robust bit... Nov 22 13:03:03 ;D Nov 22 13:04:30 what are to opinions on enabling libb in busybox >1.7.x ? Nov 22 13:04:36 libbb* Nov 22 13:05:59 koen: hello, somebody checking busybox? Nov 22 13:06:11 koen: and only busybox use it? Nov 22 13:06:31 koen: last time I had syslog I saw some glitches Nov 22 13:06:31 koen: and busybox is still one multibinary instead of lot of small binaires? Nov 22 13:07:34 koen:hrw pls check the "bl" file in busybox Nov 22 13:07:48 hrw: ipkg uses libb as well Nov 22 13:08:04 koen: own internal copy of old busybox one Nov 22 13:08:10 koen:hrw ipaq-sleep was needing bl but could not find it Nov 22 13:08:14 koen: who know how much patched Nov 22 13:08:44 hrw: unpatched the last time I talked to pigi Nov 22 13:09:01 koen: feel free to test ipkg with newer libbb Nov 22 13:09:02 he updated it from 0.60 to 1.0 a few years ago Nov 22 13:09:15 esben : i *assume* it is but probably something is fcking it Nov 22 13:09:47 ~ping mickey_away : reminder for the pdf's Nov 22 13:09:48 pong mickey_away : reminder for the pdf's Nov 22 13:09:57 later all Nov 22 13:19:08 hrw:koen oops... I was pretty sure was included in a customzed busybox...perhaps I'm wrong Nov 22 13:21:05 * esben_ hopes nobody will shoot him for posting a bitbake wrapper script to the list... Nov 22 13:21:09 * esben_ hides Nov 22 13:21:20 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r618bc572... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc): angstrom.inc: add FEED_ARCH for mpc8313e-rdb and mpc8323e-rdb machines Nov 22 13:21:50 jeremy_laine: hello, you got commit access or are you pushing the patches through someone else? Nov 22 13:21:52 grep from the current busybox has odd syntax... grep -R is a no no Nov 22 13:22:08 likewise: I have commit access now Nov 22 13:22:12 jeremy_laine: cool Nov 22 13:22:46 likewise: yup, it avoids me creating a whole bunch of bug reports for every patch :) Nov 22 13:22:48 welcome aboard Nov 22 13:22:52 thanks! Nov 22 13:23:04 and thanks for the mpc work :-) Nov 22 13:23:26 no problem, it's a fun platform to work on so far :) Nov 22 13:24:00 jeremy_laine: you got a x13 already? Nov 22 13:24:10 no unfortunately not Nov 22 13:24:16 should be sometime soon Nov 22 13:24:20 Does the xx23 board have its expansion bus available on a pin header? Nov 22 13:24:34 (local bus, address/data 66 MHz bus) Nov 22 13:24:35 cbrake_away: desperate ping Nov 22 13:24:47 by expansion board oyu mean mini-pci ? Nov 22 13:25:17 no, the local bus is a data/address bus Nov 22 13:25:25 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd3817d82... 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): zaurus-updater: dropped spitz one as unified works on spitz (tested by Rolf Leggewie) Nov 22 13:25:48 the xx13 does not AFAIK, which is a bummer for me. I need to connect a FPGA. Nov 22 13:26:03 ah, I wouldn't know, haven't been into that yet Nov 22 13:26:45 what bums me out is that I'd prefer an xx14, for TDM support Nov 22 13:26:57 but can't get hold of one yet Nov 22 13:43:08 hi everybody Nov 22 13:43:26 XorA: ping Nov 22 13:43:43 yo thesing Nov 22 13:44:33 can you point me to the genesis emulator for the gpx2? Nov 22 13:44:41 koen: -PREFERRED_VERSION_libxxf86dga ?= "1.0.2" Nov 22 13:44:41 +PREFERRED_VERSION_lib10xxf86dga ?= "1.0.2" Nov 22 13:44:46 koen: I spot a typo Nov 22 13:45:07 I think it was written in arm asm. Nov 22 13:45:28 thesing: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showtopic=38316 Nov 22 13:47:00 thanks. Nov 22 13:48:38 ... Nov 22 13:51:44 XorA: did you ever try it on zaurus? Nov 22 13:51:58 thesing: no Nov 22 14:01:16 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5435f04d... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): angstrom 2--7 lockdown file: fix typo spotted by XorA Nov 22 14:04:50 PREFERRED_VERSION_libxrender ?= "0.9.4" breaks xserver-kdrive Nov 22 14:05:23 PREFERRED_VERSION_renderproto ?= "0.9.3" that one I mean Nov 22 14:05:49 0.9.3 introduced XID which is never defined, 0.9.2 works Nov 22 14:10:36 time to drive to lunch .... Nov 22 14:10:39 l8r all Nov 22 14:19:32 ok, the angstrom-2007-preferred-versions overrides the xorg-preferred-versions which I correct Nov 22 14:19:54 but we now in situation the feeds are obviously bolloxed Nov 22 14:20:00 how do we go backwards? Nov 22 14:24:43 epoch? Nov 22 14:25:18 hrw: that would work but is nasty Nov 22 14:25:38 hrw: and fundamentally there is nothing wrong with OE meta data, its Angstroms that is wrong Nov 22 14:25:56 XorA: that's the "make a list of apps" part in my release proposal Nov 22 14:27:32 koen: so we are going to rebuild the feeds from fresh? Nov 22 14:27:56 that's the idea Nov 22 14:28:06 koen: ahah, I hadnt cottened on to that Nov 22 14:28:25 It is a bit hidden in the proposal :) Nov 22 14:29:06 still immediate term we need to downgrade renderproto to 0.9.2 Nov 22 14:32:39 and why did the version suddenly change today, I cant find a commit that changed the ordering Nov 22 14:38:33 morning Nov 22 14:53:51 RP: a build from scratch for ep93xx just completed minimal-image Nov 22 14:57:43 which column is which in bitbake -s ? Nov 22 14:58:07 I always forget Nov 22 14:58:49 Im hoping its current preferred Nov 22 15:17:29 * nud has found why his microphone didn't work Nov 22 15:17:40 HopsNBarley: Hi Andy Nov 22 15:17:50 seems to be some electrical issue between the tty0 and the microphone Nov 22 15:18:04 because when it's not connected it works fine, and doesn't otherwise Nov 22 15:18:10 hi likewise! happy US turkey day (-; Nov 22 15:18:20 how strange that is Nov 22 15:21:07 HopsNBarley: Enjoy your Tur(n)key project today :-) Nov 22 15:22:17 actually i'm putting together a build for a new OE client (-; turkey and a good pinot will come later today Nov 22 15:23:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0b7b2346... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): mpfr: add 2.3.0 Nov 22 15:29:52 koen: Handy to know, thanks :) Nov 22 15:29:59 koen: I'll have to commit some further changes ;-) Nov 22 15:33:09 who's go at fosdem 2008 to do some conferences ? Nov 22 15:35:03 * hrw do not goes to fosdem 2008 Nov 22 15:36:09 :/ Nov 22 15:36:14 * XorA will be at FOSDEM Nov 22 15:36:28 XorA : stand ? conference ? Nov 22 15:37:06 OE stand most likely Nov 22 15:37:15 and dragged around for OM stuff I suspect Nov 22 15:37:22 :) Nov 22 15:44:08 bye Nov 22 15:47:02 yay fun power cut Nov 22 15:51:48 * koen notices that pH5 has succeeded in pushing htc magician support upstream Nov 22 16:00:13 moin Nov 22 16:01:41 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0a649e59... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gettext: Disable java since it finds any native gcj and breaks cross compiled builds (from Poky) Nov 22 16:03:06 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0a649e59... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gettext: Disable java since it finds any native gcj and breaks cross compiled builds (from Poky) Nov 22 16:08:45 hey mickeyl Nov 22 16:14:27 bye! Nov 22 16:19:26 hi koen Nov 22 16:19:27 yo jeremy_laine Nov 22 16:19:34 jeremy_laine: good work on the Python stuff so far. Nov 22 16:19:34 mickeyl: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2007-November/000970.html Nov 22 16:21:23 mickeyl: what python packages were you having problems with regarding setuptools? Nov 22 16:21:34 jeremy_laine: python-e* Nov 22 16:21:43 I'd be interested in seing if setuptools.bbclass helps Nov 22 16:21:44 i.e. the EFL stuff Nov 22 16:21:56 i have some pushed for more up to date EFL which I'll push soon Nov 22 16:22:06 after that i'm giving setuptools.bbclass a try Nov 22 16:22:06 thanks Nov 22 16:22:48 koen: hmm, good plan. it makes sense to do it this year, otherwise it'll take too long Nov 22 16:23:18 one thing I didn't understand is why do we have both a distutils_stage_headers and distutils_stage_all Nov 22 16:23:24 mickeyl: otherwise it clashes with angstrom 2008 :) Nov 22 16:28:44 how would you do, in an init script, to ensure a daemon gets reloaded when it fails (crash, etc) Nov 22 16:29:17 nud: a cronjob Nov 22 16:33:04 * * OE Bug 3353 has been created by dodji(AT)seketeli.org Nov 22 16:33:06 * * gettext fails to build Nov 22 16:33:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3353 Nov 22 16:33:17 * * OE Bug 3353 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Nov 22 16:33:18 * *  gettext fails to build Nov 22 16:33:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3353 Nov 22 16:34:56 jeremy_laine: i don't remember offhand, i think it was necessary because of python-e*'s usage of setuptools Nov 22 16:34:58 nud: inittab migth be better Nov 22 16:35:35 ah, well if you can keep an eye on it while updating python-e*, I'd be interested in knowing Nov 22 16:35:58 thesing_: any pointer ? Nov 22 16:36:17 * nud not familiar at all with that kind of stuff, was thinking about a while loop in the init script Nov 22 16:37:06 nud: google for /etc/inittab Nov 22 16:37:11 if you need to customise the invocation of setup.py in setuptools.inc, you can using the DISTUTILS_STAGE_HEADERS_ARGS, DISTUTILS_STAGE_ALL_ARGS variables Nov 22 16:37:44 mickeyl: (see top of distutils.inc file) Nov 22 16:38:09 of course, inittab might work as well. A cronjob is the brute-force method of keeping a service alive (if done properly) Nov 22 16:38:20 mickeyl: s/inc/bbclass/ Nov 22 16:38:48 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r40f293b1... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Nov 22 16:38:48 hostap-daemon_0.6.0.bb: package version 0.6.0 of hostap-daemon Nov 22 16:38:48 * update makefile-cross.diff patch Nov 22 16:38:48 * fix init script: pass -B to hostapd instead of passing -b Nov 22 16:38:49 to start-stop-daemon Nov 22 16:38:51 * instead of using per-machine enabling/disabling of madwifi Nov 22 16:38:53 support, use the 'pci' feature, like wpa-supplicant Nov 22 16:39:06 CoreDump: heh, brute-force would be having "monit" on the device Nov 22 16:39:38 heh Nov 22 16:41:14 ~seen mr_data Nov 22 16:41:16 i haven't seen 'mr_data', thesing Nov 22 16:41:26 ~seen mr_nice Nov 22 16:41:28 mr_nice was last seen on IRC in channel #opensimpad.org, 10d 19h 14m 32s ago, saying: 'x29a: ich habe hier keine kamera'. Nov 22 16:45:56 jeremy_laine: ok, coolies Nov 22 16:53:55 hi Nov 22 17:00:16 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r8e1c07cc... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): task-openmoko.bb : add openmoko-messages2 to the images Nov 22 17:04:32 pH5: congrats on getting the magician patches accepted Nov 22 17:05:55 koen: thanks :) Nov 22 17:41:28 There's any easy way to get an ext2 image that has it properly set to be bootable? Nov 22 17:41:52 koen: ping Nov 22 17:43:55 otavio: awesome, but better stay away from me today :) Nov 22 17:44:16 zecke|flu: too flu? Nov 22 17:44:32 zecke|flu: have you noticed that OE GIT mirror isn't being up to date? Nov 22 17:44:52 otavio: I'm too stupid for crontab -e :) Nov 22 17:45:00 ahha Nov 22 17:50:03 zecke|flu: is it gonna be easier/better to install linux under vmware fusion, and run OE that way, or do it in OS X natively? Nov 22 17:50:06 * mwester notes zecke|flu, and carefully wipes the XChat window with some anti-bacterial soap. Nov 22 17:52:05 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8d5431bc... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Nov 22 17:52:05 busybox-static 1.2.1: Enable support for -t & -n options for read command. Nov 22 17:52:05 * These are timeout and num chars to read options, both are useful Nov 22 17:52:05 when writing UI interaction code, with busybox-static being targetted Nov 22 17:52:05 at writing bootloader tools and stuff. Nov 22 17:52:12 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r0af68458... 10/ (10 files in 3 dirs): initrdscripts: Introduce boot order support for universal initramfs modules. Nov 22 17:52:20 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r41897bf9... 10/ (1 packages/initrdscripts/files/init.sh): initrdscripts: Initial value for ROOT_DEV is null. Nov 22 17:52:24 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r0017e482... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): initrdscripts: Separate fs kernel module loading to separate plugin. Nov 22 17:52:29 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r3ada91e9... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): initrdscripts: Finish renaming for ordered module load. Nov 22 17:52:33 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r76f06a59... 10/ (1 packages/initrdscripts/files/init.sh): initrdscripts: We obviously first do rootdelay, and only then create device nodes. Nov 22 17:52:37 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rfbf68cc9... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Nov 22 17:52:37 dropbear 0.49: Beautify init script output. Nov 22 17:52:37 * Make sure that "Starting: dropbear" message is not broken by host Nov 22 17:52:37 key generation output. Nov 22 17:54:05 * mwester notes that we should enable -t and -n for busybox in SlugOS, and probably angstrom as well, for the same reasons pfalcon provides in the commit message. Nov 22 18:07:26 I found that there's a class bootimg but I didn't find any image using it Nov 22 18:08:07 anyone has an example for using it? Nov 22 18:16:58 ERROR: Build of /home/koen/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/dropbear/dropbear_0.49.bb do_install failed Nov 22 18:17:00 hmmm Nov 22 18:20:14 WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!! Nov 22 18:20:16 WRAARRRR!!! I has the Cookies Tooo! WRAARRRR!!! Nov 22 18:20:20 WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!! Nov 22 18:21:11 kids Nov 22 18:28:16 yo gang - whats the correct way to name a new kernel? packages/linux/ is all over the map. Nov 22 18:28:47 linux_.bb Nov 22 18:28:58 and use linux.inc Nov 22 18:29:05 ah - thanks koen! Nov 22 18:29:58 bye Nov 22 18:31:43 koen, if we migrate to linx_.bb, won't the file get a bit busy with DEFAULT_PREFERENCE_machine and SRC_URI_append(s) ? Nov 22 18:32:21 just wondering if that is any better than all the individual files. Nov 22 18:33:24 it is better than the individual files Nov 22 18:34:10 you can now immediately see what patches other machines use and learn from that Nov 22 18:34:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbb63b7b4... 10/ (19 files in 10 dirs): Nov 22 18:34:21 busybox: Enable support for -t & -n options for read command in angstrom configs. Nov 22 18:34:21 * These are timeout and num chars to read options, both are useful Nov 22 18:34:21 when writing UI interaction code, with busybox-static being targetted Nov 22 18:34:21 at writing bootloader tools and stuff. Nov 22 18:34:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbb63b7b4... 10/ (19 files in 10 dirs): Nov 22 18:34:25 busybox: Enable support for -t & -n options for read command in angstrom configs. Nov 22 18:34:27 * These are timeout and num chars to read options, both are useful Nov 22 18:34:29 when writing UI interaction code, with busybox-static being targetted Nov 22 18:34:31 at writing bootloader tools and stuff. Nov 22 18:34:33 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbb63b7b4... 10/ (19 files in 10 dirs): Nov 22 18:34:35 busybox: Enable support for -t & -n options for read command in angstrom configs. Nov 22 18:34:41 * These are timeout and num chars to read options, both are useful Nov 22 18:34:43 when writing UI interaction code, with busybox-static being targetted Nov 22 18:34:45 at writing bootloader tools and stuff. Nov 22 18:34:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbb63b7b4... 10/ (19 files in 10 dirs): Nov 22 18:34:49 busybox: Enable support for -t & -n options for read command in angstrom configs. Nov 22 18:34:51 * These are timeout and num chars to read options, both are useful Nov 22 18:34:55 when writing UI interaction code, with busybox-static being targetted Nov 22 18:34:57 at writing bootloader tools and stuff. Nov 22 18:35:08 CIA-33: likes me Nov 22 18:35:42 a related question - is there any policy on committing vendor ikernel patches? i've got a few sets laying around. not all are freely downloadable - but all come with the machines in question. GPL would seem to permit it, but i'm just asking. Nov 22 18:37:34 koen, thanks for your always sage advice (-; Nov 22 18:49:43 koen: after update a package while keeping old (i.e. mtn mv $old $new; cp $new $old; mtn add $old), I got mtn: error: merge failed due to unresolved conflicts during next mtn pull and mtn merge Nov 22 18:50:20 Koen: what's the easy solution. Sorry for the laziness of not sipping through monotone document Nov 22 18:51:33 mpfr? Nov 22 18:51:40 yeah Nov 22 18:51:49 * koen discovers a tin of rootbeer in the fridge Nov 22 18:52:02 warning: rename target conflict: nodes 25349, 6083, both want parent 1278, name mpfr_2.3.0.bb Nov 22 18:52:11 xjqian: mtn revert packages/mpfr ; mtn up Nov 22 18:52:18 I added mpfr 2.3.0 today Nov 22 18:52:30 the patch in the bug replaced 2.1.x Nov 22 18:53:04 lots of (vocal) OE users are attached to their broken old version, so removing 2.1.x didn't seem like a good idea Nov 22 18:53:22 xjqian: btw, I suspect you forgot to push your gcc commit Nov 22 18:53:48 the ln -sf gfortran g77? Nov 22 18:54:30 dunno, I didn't see the commit :) Nov 22 18:54:51 yes, I'm about to Nov 22 18:55:26 koen, I didn't remove 2.1.1. I just added 2.3.0 while keeping the old Nov 22 18:55:42 btw, mtn revert doesn't help Nov 22 18:59:01 well, seems I do need to read the mtn pages with the help of beer Nov 22 19:04:57 koen: here is the gcc patch http://pastebin.ca/793918. I have to learn monotone and get through this multiple head problem before I commit. So feel free to commit it for me. Nov 22 19:07:04 * * OE Bug 3354 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Nov 22 19:07:06 * * dropbear-0.49-r1-do_install Nov 22 19:07:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3354 Nov 22 19:07:16 * * OE Bug 3355 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Nov 22 19:07:18 * * glibc-2.5-r8-do_package Nov 22 19:07:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3355 Nov 22 19:40:29 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r2954b41f... 10/ (1 packages/initrdscripts/files/10-initfs.sh): Nov 22 19:40:29 initrdscripts: module-initfs: Be silent on loading non-existent module. Nov 22 19:40:29 * Use -q for modprobe, and as that apparently doesn't help bitbake's modprobe, Nov 22 19:40:29 redirect output to /dev/null. Nov 22 19:40:34 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * re6a53e3b... 10/ (1 packages/initrdscripts/files/80-loopboot.sh): initramfs-module-loopboot: Allow to use absolute path for loop file location. Nov 22 19:40:39 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rd33b5e7d... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): initramfs-uniboot & modules: Bump PRs for latest changes. Nov 22 19:40:43 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb4fb0e02... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Nov 22 19:40:43 initramfs-module-bootmenu: Interactive boot location selection for initramfs-uniboot. Nov 22 19:40:43 * For now, supports booting from ext2/ext3 partitions and from ext2/ext3 loopback Nov 22 19:40:43 images placed on vfat partition. Nov 22 19:40:49 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r311e72b5... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): Nov 22 19:40:49 bitbake.conf: Reformat and alphabetize ASSUME_PROVIDED list. Nov 22 19:40:50 * According to http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-November/003493.html , Nov 22 19:40:52 ASSUME_PROVIDED in the bitbake.conf is the authoritative location of list Nov 22 19:40:54 of package which expected to be installed on the host for OE to work properly. Nov 22 19:40:56 Make the list more prominent and easy to maintain. Nov 22 19:40:58 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rd645cc63... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 22 19:41:02 linux-rp: Depends on bc during buildtime for collie. Nov 22 19:41:04 * Don't bother to create bc-natibe though, just add it to global Nov 22 19:41:06 ASSUME_PROVIDED list. Nov 22 21:00:04 * * OE Bug 3355 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by koen(AT)openembedded.org Nov 22 21:00:06 * *  glibc-2.5-r8-do_package Nov 22 21:00:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3355 Nov 22 21:08:30 re Nov 22 21:08:35 hi florian Nov 22 21:08:56 hm can someone enlight me Nov 22 21:09:34 in libtool is defined PACKAGES = "libltdl libltdl-dev ${PN}" Nov 22 21:09:42 but I cannt bitbake libltdl Nov 22 21:11:03 woglinde: yes, "libtool" is your target Nov 22 21:11:50 hm okay I see but RDEPENDS seems to work this way Nov 22 21:12:01 thats good Nov 22 21:14:26 woglinde: right Nov 22 21:14:29 hi greentux Nov 22 21:14:36 hi greentux Nov 22 21:14:42 hi flo_lap woglinde Nov 22 21:24:20 fosdem will take place at the same place... with not much enough room... Nov 22 21:25:06 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r01a1687d... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): slugos-packages: add cryptsetup Nov 22 21:25:39 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r0d345a7f... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Nov 22 21:25:39 cacao-cldc: fix path to cldc1.1.jar Nov 22 21:25:39 * path is now /usr/share/java for cldc1.1.jar Nov 22 21:25:39 * cosmetic change for cacao-cldc in package area Nov 22 21:25:39 * bump PR to 1 Nov 22 21:25:53 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r99c0b421... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Nov 22 21:25:53 midpath-cldc: rproviding virtual/cldc-api-1.1 Nov 22 21:25:53 * set in midpath-cldc: RPROVIDES = "virtual/cldc-api-1.1" Nov 22 21:25:53 so we are in sync with cacao-cldc Nov 22 21:25:54 * bump PR to 1 Nov 22 21:26:00 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r04790f0b... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Nov 22 21:26:00 midpath: cosmetic buildfixes Nov 22 21:26:00 * remove unnecessary build directory in a couple of .bb Nov 22 21:26:01 * no need to bump the PR Nov 22 21:26:14 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r34a9e2f0... 10/ (1 packages/midpath/midpath-pulseaudio_0.1.bb): midpath-pulseaudio: new sound backend for midpath Nov 22 21:26:26 greentux: yes, that's quite likely Nov 22 21:26:34 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r74f9f938... 10/ (1 packages/cacao/cacao-cldc_0.98.bb): Nov 22 21:26:34 cacao-cldc: fix RDEPENDS for libltdl Nov 22 21:26:34 * cacao-cldc needs libltdl if executed Nov 22 21:27:52 ok, is novotel again #oe hotel? Nov 22 21:29:27 greentux: I thought it was Astrid last year Nov 22 21:31:06 XorA|gone: right, but year ago it was novotel... ? mmh my mind.. Nov 22 21:31:34 greentux: its a bit far in advance anyway, most people only booked OEDEM 2 days before :-) Nov 22 21:32:05 XorA|gone: prices will increase... Nov 22 21:33:27 the astrid wasnt bad if i remind correctly. Nov 22 21:37:10 greentux: the astrid s quite good and iirc they had a nice discount for online booking at the time of the year FOSDEM took place the last two years Nov 22 21:37:58 ok, will mape a todo for january... Nov 22 21:54:34 hi stefan Nov 22 21:55:12 hi woglinde Nov 22 23:33:06 hi coredump Nov 22 23:33:12 hey welp Nov 22 23:33:16 hey woglinde Nov 22 23:46:57 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r8a77047e... 10/ (1 packages/liboil/liboil_0.3.11.bb): Nov 22 23:46:57 liboil: fix bug 3090 Nov 22 23:46:57 * liboil DEPENDS on "glib-2.0" Nov 22 23:46:57 * it is no uclibc bug Nov 22 23:46:57 * bump PR to 2 Nov 23 00:21:04 * * OE Bug 3090 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by heinold(AT)inf.fu-berlin.de Nov 23 00:21:06 * *  liboil-0.3.11-r0-do_compile Nov 23 00:21:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3090 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 23 02:59:57 2007