**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 07 02:59:57 2007 Dec 07 05:34:56 ~lart kernel module deps Dec 07 05:34:56 * ibot pours gasoline all over kernel module deps, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze Dec 07 05:35:10 ~emulate stewie Dec 07 05:35:11 Baby needs to suck ash! Dec 07 05:35:14 ~emulate stewie Dec 07 05:35:26 ~emulate stewie Dec 07 05:35:27 Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. Dec 07 05:35:34 * Zero_Chaos feels better now Dec 07 07:40:55 morning all Dec 07 08:03:22 summatusmentis: up late again? Dec 07 08:04:13 hvontres|home: lol, yes. I'm a college student, it's what I do Dec 07 08:11:34 summatusmentis: heh..been there, done that...it used to be the only way I got to see a susnset was if I stayed up for it :) Now I seem them on the way to work.. Dec 07 08:24:06 it's not a sunset if it's in the morning :-P Dec 07 08:24:30 summatusmentis: err.. I meant sunrise :) Dec 07 08:24:37 lol, I gathered as much Dec 07 08:24:45 * hvontres|home is starting to suffer from CRS Dec 07 08:28:26 * summatusmentis suffers from not realizing what time it is Dec 07 08:28:29 I'm going to bed Dec 07 08:29:57 good morning all Dec 07 08:35:00 'morning all Dec 07 09:39:48 morning Dec 07 09:43:52 hey hrw Dec 07 09:44:23 hey pH5 & lrg Dec 07 09:44:42 hi pH5 lrg Dec 07 09:44:52 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/aggregator/sources/4 Dec 07 09:45:03 hey koen, hrw, pH5 Dec 07 09:45:07 hej koen, hrw & lrg Dec 07 09:45:11 koen: my rss generator? I already noticed Dec 07 09:45:42 next time I'll search php.net for 'xml' instead of 'rss' :) Dec 07 09:45:47 hey zecke Dec 07 09:45:54 ho Dec 07 09:46:13 koen: :D Dec 07 09:46:52 rss searching gives parsers usually Dec 07 09:49:05 I've been thinking how we can make an rss feeds for packages Dec 07 09:49:47 koen: how we update them now? Dec 07 09:50:28 upload to 2007/ipkg/glibc/etc/bla/unsorted/, run sort script Dec 07 09:50:44 and we still need a better way of adding feeds to f-b Dec 07 09:50:59 * koen wishes there were 36 hours in a day Dec 07 09:53:08 and sort script adds packages into feeds? Dec 07 09:53:20 yes, and runs ipkg-make-index Dec 07 09:54:02 then you need to create list of packages before i-m-i and after. then compare them, then generate rss item with list of new stuff added Dec 07 09:54:11 bonjour Dec 07 09:54:18 hi Genesis Dec 07 09:54:38 hrw: I think XorA had a script for that somewhere Dec 07 09:54:47 hi :) Dec 07 09:55:04 hrw: the problem will go away once we have a webfrontend/client-helper for uploading ipkgs Dec 07 09:55:14 koen: no Dec 07 09:55:34 koen: what if someone upload gnumer_1.7.3_armv4t.ipk which is in feed already? Dec 07 09:55:51 it is new upload but will not get into feeds as there is one already there Dec 07 09:56:18 right now it will get into the feeds, which is a big problem Dec 07 09:57:35 koen: so we need script which will parse new.ipk, compare data with f-b database, add to upload queue or reject;repeat for another? Dec 07 09:58:16 that sounds like it Dec 07 09:58:31 maybe the parsing of Control is overkill, but I haven't looked into that Dec 07 09:58:40 koen: http://www.xora.org.uk/~dp/superfeed.sh Dec 07 09:59:58 su perfide Dec 07 09:59:59 :) Dec 07 10:01:11 koen: you need to parse control file as PE isnt in package filenames Dec 07 10:03:29 XorA: drat Dec 07 10:12:08 koen: ping? Dec 07 10:12:20 pong Dec 07 10:12:26 hiya! Dec 07 10:12:37 I had a question regarding the recent change to the way angstrom feeds are handled Dec 07 10:12:46 sure, fire away Dec 07 10:13:09 there is a variable declared called ANGSTROM_FEED_CONFIGS, but it doesn't seem to be used Dec 07 10:13:11 it's new territory, so we need all the feedback we can get Dec 07 10:13:42 in angstrom-2007.1.conf, angstrom-feed-configs is hardcoded Dec 07 10:13:47 ah Dec 07 10:13:50 that's and oversight Dec 07 10:13:53 shouldn't this be ${ANGSTROM_FEED_CONFIGS} ? Dec 07 10:14:32 in any case, it's very handy to have moved the feed configs under package management, cheers for that Dec 07 10:15:38 - ipkg ipkg-collateral angstrom-feed-configs \ Dec 07 10:15:39 + ipkg ipkg-collateral ${ANGSTROM_FEED_CONFIGS} \ Dec 07 10:24:38 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r40faf7d4... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: use ${ANGSTROM_FEED_CONFIGS} var for feed config, thanks to Jeremy Laine for spotting this Dec 07 10:25:20 jeremy_laine: there you go Dec 07 10:25:30 thanks! Dec 07 10:27:48 ~lart directfb Dec 07 10:27:49 * ibot whacks directfb with the cluebat Dec 07 10:28:05 ~lart the person that added directfb to gstreamer DEPENDS Dec 07 10:28:06 * ibot eats the person that added directfb to gstreamer DEPENDS's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti Dec 07 10:28:14 ~lart the person that changed directfb staging Dec 07 10:28:14 * ibot squeezes the person that changed directfb staging till the person that changed directfb staging turns blue like papa smurf Dec 07 10:28:57 koen: send him an orange boiler suit Dec 07 10:29:08 !oebug 2833 Dec 07 10:29:10 * * Bug 2833, Status: REOPENED, Created: 2007-08-23 00:39 Dec 07 10:29:11 * * autobuild(AT)openembedded.org: gst-plugins-bad-0.10.5-r1-do_compile Dec 07 10:29:12 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833 Dec 07 10:30:32 hey lumag Dec 07 10:43:33 hi! Dec 07 10:43:36 hey koen Dec 07 10:44:12 hi Dmitry Dec 07 10:45:11 hrw: I Dec 07 10:46:27 hrw: I've provided patches that hopefully fix bug#1527. Please consider applying Dec 07 10:47:22 lumag: those two patches? Dec 07 10:47:53 yup Dec 07 10:48:10 those are ones which you sent to lakml? Dec 07 10:48:20 yup Dec 07 10:48:35 I will take them from lakml then Dec 07 10:48:49 thanks! Dec 07 10:49:10 so it will give also info about where to look for them Dec 07 10:49:38 did david mean that the usb one was accepted or that LAK was the wrong mailinglist? Dec 07 10:49:49 meh Dec 07 10:50:07 "short status description" is not what I want to see when tracking packages Dec 07 10:50:30 the status field literally says that, instead of the actual status Dec 07 10:50:43 crazy german Dec 07 10:50:44 s Dec 07 10:51:00 ? Dec 07 10:51:12 koen: he resent it to gregkh Dec 07 10:51:50 hrw: hermes paketdienst's tracking page is broken Dec 07 10:52:11 koen: ? Dec 07 10:53:47 lumag: pushhing Dec 07 10:54:18 hrw: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/crazygermans.png Dec 07 10:54:30 hrw: thanks Dec 07 10:56:35 lumag: np Dec 07 10:57:54 koen: "in Kürze" means "soon" there. Dec 07 10:58:08 ah, blasted umlauts Dec 07 10:58:26 still, crazy germans :) Dec 07 10:58:50 * koen discovers http://www.r2d2translator.com/ Dec 07 11:00:04 * * OE Bug 2833 has been REOPENED by koen(AT)openembedded.org Dec 07 11:00:06 * *  gst-plugins-bad-0.10.5-r1-do_compile Dec 07 11:00:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833 Dec 07 11:04:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbbfafd07... 10/ (1 classes/package_ipk.bbclass): Dec 07 11:04:47 package_ipk.bbclass: merge with poky Dec 07 11:04:47 * package sorting works now for mixed arch recipes (e.g. sysvinit) Dec 07 11:04:47 * doesn't clobber dependencies anymore Dec 07 11:04:47 * uses bitbake locking utils Dec 07 11:04:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re94fdfc4... 10/ (1 conf/sanity.conf): sanity.conf: bump bitbake to 1.8.9 for lockfile changes Dec 07 11:05:40 poor openmoko users... Dec 07 11:05:54 you mean gstreamer being broken? Dec 07 11:05:59 no Dec 07 11:06:03 bitbake 1.8.9 Dec 07 11:06:11 does not they use 1.8.8 still? Dec 07 11:06:20 aren't they using a stale revision anyway? Dec 07 11:06:48 or 'few days old' repo Dec 07 11:14:16 almost 20k revs in .dev Dec 07 11:17:34 good morning Dec 07 11:17:39 hey florian Dec 07 11:17:47 03dbaryshkov 07org.oe.dev * rc238596b... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp: add two patches for Tosa to fix usb networking - close #1527 Dec 07 11:18:33 those should be in tomorrows autobuild for tosa if all goes well Dec 07 11:19:27 koen: We shouldn't really be using bitbake svn :/ Dec 07 11:19:48 well, requiring it Dec 07 11:20:58 Sadly there are a couple of things I want to fix in 1.8.9 before it becomes 1.8.10 :( Dec 07 11:30:52 readon, sorry for the late reply, I had to remove pango-directfb becuase is was overriding pango for some weird reason even though I set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1". I will look into it more over this weekend and see if I can't finally resolve the issue. Dec 07 11:32:23 readon, I can email you or pastebin the bb file for pango-directfb if you need it sooner than that. Dec 07 11:49:14 excuse me: is there any particular reason that the default syslog destination is "file" instead of "buffer" in angstrom ? Dec 07 11:50:05 * * OE Bug 1527 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Dec 07 11:50:07 * *  usb networking broken in tosa Dec 07 11:50:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1527 Dec 07 11:50:52 koen: I'm setting up an autobuilder. should I be able to run back to back builds for 2 machines without nuking tmp if they are the same distro? Dec 07 11:51:11 yes Dec 07 11:51:28 see contrib/angstrom for the scripts angstrom uses Dec 07 11:52:01 didn't know that was there! for some reason the second build fails Dec 07 11:53:15 and even when changing distro you don't have to nuke tmp if your local.conf has: Dec 07 11:53:16 TMPDIR = "/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/${DISTRO}" Dec 07 11:53:26 koen: hcid: hidden symbol `__gnu_uldivmod_helper' in /home/oe/gumstix/gumstix-oe/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-uclibcgnueabi/4.1.2/libgcc.a(bpabi.o) is referenced by DSO Dec 07 11:53:59 I've seen that before, no idea why that is Dec 07 11:54:14 I can't reprodice it reliably Dec 07 11:54:21 reproduce Dec 07 11:54:22 * Dec 07 11:54:27 Doesn't happen with individual build :-( Dec 07 11:54:41 But every time with auto build Dec 07 11:55:05 I hate BT :-) Dec 07 11:55:25 sakoman_: heh, wait till you look into the tsc2003, then you'll have i2c :) Dec 07 11:55:57 I already have i2c working and can talk to the tsc2003 via command line Dec 07 11:56:14 Driver is broken though for reasons not yet determined Dec 07 11:56:40 But BT is alive and well for both on board modules and usb dongles Dec 07 11:58:02 cool to have simultaneous logins on serial, lcd + usb kb, BT, and ssh :-) Dec 07 11:58:23 So sad that I would enjoy that so much ;-) Dec 07 11:58:46 :) Dec 07 12:01:18 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r6ea11572... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Dec 07 12:01:18 python2.5: fix RDEPENDS for python-codecs and python-netclient Dec 07 12:01:18 * add python-lang to python-codecs RDEPENDS Dec 07 12:01:18 * add python-crypt to python-netclient RDEPENDS Dec 07 12:01:18 * bump PR to ml5 (catch up with python-core) Dec 07 12:02:14 gm Dec 07 12:03:45 hey likewise Dec 07 12:06:24 hoi koen Dec 07 12:14:31 * hrw -> lunch Dec 07 12:18:06 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/12/07/uk_gets_tux_droid/ <- now _that_ is a cool looking tux Dec 07 12:21:13 "In total 22 bugs have been created and 48 bugs were closed." Dec 07 12:26:24 koen: anything new on SRC_TARBALL_STASH variable? Dec 07 12:26:41 what about it? Dec 07 12:26:43 would be nice to supply a local source overlay on a web/ftp server Dec 07 12:26:54 someone mentioned it on the november user mailinglist Dec 07 12:27:57 http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-users/2007-November/000329.html Dec 07 12:28:12 or does it work already? didnt get if its a bitbake or oe setting Dec 07 12:39:00 koen: svn: URL 'svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/tags/bitbake-1.8.9' doesn't exist Dec 07 12:39:31 You guys made my write that in the makefile, cause you wanted people to use a tag, but then you forget to put the tag in :-) Dec 07 12:40:59 Hmm - and .9 is an odd number. Are we making sanity require bitbake svn developer versions now rather than releases? Dec 07 12:56:43 ERROR: QA issue: libstdc++.la failed sanity test (reference to workdir or installed) Dec 07 12:56:54 is it solved on recent gcc-cross ? Dec 07 12:57:12 i don't find the solution :/ Dec 07 12:58:41 vivijim, looks you were right about directfb include dirs Dec 07 13:00:40 hi Crofton|home: does that -I flag worked? Dec 07 13:02:22 haven't tried it yet, mickeyl re-opened the orginal bug from sakoman_ Dec 07 13:02:59 sakoman_ : do you solve this pb ? Dec 07 13:02:59 Genesis: I have this too Dec 07 13:03:16 first solve is the winner :) Dec 07 13:03:26 Genesis: which problem? :-) Dec 07 13:03:27 looks like I need to undo the dirctfb fb change, then work out the -I in the examples Dec 07 13:03:29 Genesis: and libmudflap and libsupc Dec 07 13:03:35 yeap also ;) Dec 07 13:03:54 angstrom-2007.1.conf ? Dec 07 13:04:04 Genesis: everybody seems to ignore the warning "NOTE: preferred version 2.5 of glibc not available" Dec 07 13:04:26 Genesis: here and in #angstrom Dec 07 13:04:35 i tried to correct this Dec 07 13:04:35 I will be beer to the person that fixes that warning Dec 07 13:05:04 Crofton: I guess all the warnings come from glibc 2.5 Dec 07 13:05:12 i don't understand why because 2.5 of glibc is available Dec 07 13:05:16 ~oebug 3415 Dec 07 13:05:25 Genesis: is built Dec 07 13:05:41 sakoman_, er-opened with blocking others Dec 07 13:05:50 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0e4a2bbb... 10/ (1 packages/directfb/directfb_1.1.0.bb): directfb: fix #2833 Dec 07 13:05:52 I guess other packages did build with directfb Dec 07 13:05:55 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r01ae5b27... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): python-pysqlite2: add pysqlite Python interface to SQLite 3 Dec 07 13:06:00 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r9ac71375... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-django_0.96.1.bb): python-django: add Django Python Web framework Dec 07 13:06:07 Genesis: if you are referring to the libstdc++ QA issue, I see this too Dec 07 13:06:10 Crofton|home: every package minus directfb-examples Dec 07 13:06:26 we looked for DEPENDS on directfb Dec 07 13:06:37 anyway Dec 07 13:06:43 sakoman_ : seems a lot of person have that pb Dec 07 13:06:49 sakoman_ : how do you solve it ? Dec 07 13:06:52 your fix is the sym-link> Dec 07 13:06:58 Crofton|home: workaround Dec 07 13:07:04 ok Dec 07 13:07:26 Crofton: indeed, well we worried about that and didn't like the solution. directfb project needs to clean up examples and docs Dec 07 13:07:32 I'll go back and undo the include dir thing, and fis examples properly Dec 07 13:07:41 Crofton|home: a better idea would be to remove the patch that tells it to use /usr/include and symlink include/directfb/* to include/* Dec 07 13:07:53 Genesis: Ididn't solve it, I just ignore it :-) Dec 07 13:08:25 koen, for examples? Dec 07 13:08:32 yeah Dec 07 13:08:50 but restore the original behavior to directfb? Dec 07 13:08:51 or pass -Istaging/directfb Dec 07 13:09:08 that is vivijim suggestion I think Dec 07 13:09:11 koen: I like that better Dec 07 13:09:37 I have no strong opinions on that, I just want gst-plugins-bad to build :) Dec 07 13:10:10 yes, it is... I believe that it solves the example problem... Dec 07 13:10:33 ok, it will be this afternoon (my time) before I can lok at this more Dec 07 13:12:27 sakoman_, up early, or not gone to bed? Dec 07 13:12:47 Up early, 7am flight Dec 07 13:14:31 ah Dec 07 13:14:41 offto the valley? Dec 07 13:14:42 sakoman_ : hehe but perharps you don't need c++ :) Dec 07 13:15:11 Genesis: that is currently the case :-) Dec 07 13:15:52 here the like C++ , nightmare threading application & xml communication for realtime stuff Dec 07 13:15:54 ... Dec 07 13:21:45 hi all ... Dec 07 13:23:04 * * OE Bug 3433 has been created by  Dec 07 13:23:06 * * Evas and Ecore no longer build with directfb support Dec 07 13:23:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3433 Dec 07 13:23:14 koen: do you remember who maintain webkit in OE? Dec 07 13:23:28 wasn't that zeckes toy? Dec 07 13:23:31 hrw: I do webkit-gtk and zecke the rest Dec 07 13:23:42 ok Dec 07 13:23:58 I just wonder why WebKit.pri/pro are replaced instead of patched Dec 07 13:24:14 they aren't replaced Dec 07 13:24:30 we don't fetch them, since you can't fetch single files from svn Dec 07 13:24:43 (you can with a very recent svn 1.6.x, but I don't have that) Dec 07 13:25:04 * * OE Bug 3434 has been created by tonyg(AT)kcbbs.gen.nz Dec 07 13:25:06 * * New recipe for spidermonkey javascript/js 1.7.0 Dec 07 13:25:07 ok Dec 07 13:25:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3434 Dec 07 13:25:28 i don't understand why doing inside bitbake shell 'build rxvt' i don't obtain a ipkg file in deploy/ipkg ... it fetch unpack patch configure compile install package and after it refuse to create ipkg cause it would be empty !!!! Dec 07 13:25:39 hrw: we don't fetch the svn root to avoid having 3GB or html files for unit tests Dec 07 13:25:45 ok Dec 07 13:26:10 hrw: I agree it's not an optimal solution Dec 07 13:26:31 hrw: and our headers different due to non-crosscompile safe upstream headers Dec 07 13:26:46 I am trying to build r28485 Dec 07 13:28:02 that requires gstreamer, no? Dec 07 13:29:02 and newer webkit.pri/pro Dec 07 13:29:42 why i have some empty packages ??? Dec 07 13:30:58 damn !!! why the hell rxvt compile don't produce a binary file !!!! Dec 07 13:31:06 and no error is reported by bitbake ! Dec 07 13:31:15 gremlin[it]: "bitbake -i" shell used Dec 07 13:31:16 ? Dec 07 13:31:27 hrw: JavaScriptCore/pcre/dftables.pro \ Dec 07 13:31:31 yes Dec 07 13:31:33 that's the line that needs to get removed Dec 07 13:31:34 yes hrw Dec 07 13:31:37 gremlin[it]: it is broken Dec 07 13:31:44 grrrrr ! Dec 07 13:32:41 hrw: webkit.pri looks safe to replace Dec 07 13:35:01 hrw: so only the dftables line in Webkit.pro needs to get removed for safe crosscompilation Dec 07 13:35:24 webkit runs dftables to generate some stuff Dec 07 13:35:25 dftables are handled in recipe anyway Dec 07 13:35:32 yes Dec 07 13:35:45 and I have it supported in recipe now even due to .c->.cpp change Dec 07 13:35:46 but the .pro file will build dftables with the crosscompiler Dec 07 13:38:44 hrw: I'd love to have a more recent webkit in OE Dec 07 13:39:02 hrw ... anyway compiling rxvt i don't have rxvt binary but only rclock !!!! Dec 07 13:40:11 gremlin[it]: do not use bitbake shell for building packages Dec 07 13:40:15 i neet a damn xterminal !!!! neithe xterm rxvt rxvt-unicode work !!!!!!!!! Dec 07 13:40:51 hrw ... yes also build from command line don't produce good package Dec 07 13:41:31 even with 'bitbake rxvt-unicode -crebuild'? Dec 07 13:42:09 it produce rxvtc and rxvtd ... no a plain stupid rxvt or urxvt !!! Dec 07 13:42:39 i lauch xrvtd ... and after rxvtc ... and the latter fail to connect to the daemon ! Dec 07 13:42:46 then report bug? Dec 07 13:45:22 no no ... from cli it build also a plain rxvt ... finally ! Dec 07 13:47:26 gremlin[it]: like I said - avoid bitbake shell Dec 07 13:49:27 hrw, ... now I know ... but i sould be really useful and fast !!! Dec 07 13:53:26 later all Dec 07 13:54:36 Genesis: ping Dec 07 13:55:47 bb Dec 07 14:01:17 RP: ping (Re: LEDS class) Dec 07 14:04:04 lumag: cool - both your patches got Ack Dec 07 14:05:30 hrw: yup. Already sent second to greg Dec 07 14:06:25 cdm: ping Dec 07 14:06:55 hrw: currenly cleaning up keyboard stuff Dec 07 14:07:51 !seen Spyr1 Dec 07 14:07:53 Spyr1 (n=ian@i-195-137-94-162.freedom2surf.net) was last seen parting #oe 24 days, 14 hours, 14 minutes ago stating "{}". Dec 07 14:23:49 Bitbake version 1.8.9 is required and version 1.8.8 was found Dec 07 14:24:16 Bummer. Apparently we now require *future* versions in the dependencies. hehe! Dec 07 14:24:29 Did someone forget to commit something? Dec 07 14:27:52 mwester: Read scrollback :) Dec 07 14:33:32 broonie: Well, after digging through that, I now understand that someone already identified this issue this morning. But no solution has been presented. So thanks, but not really helpful, I fear. :( Dec 07 14:34:36 * mwester goes off to work without starting the build he's been hoping to get completed all week. Dec 07 14:37:46 mwester: Well, you can grab a svn bitbake in the meantime. Dec 07 15:36:04 * * OE Bug 3435 has been created by utx(AT)penguin.cz Dec 07 15:36:06 * * hal: Missing /var/cache/hald Dec 07 15:36:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3435 Dec 07 16:06:41 hi all, i have a program (xorg driver) that use imake / xmkmf .. how i can do ... seem nothing provide imake-native or xmkmf-native .. thanks ! Dec 07 16:08:20 jeremy_laine: hi Dec 07 16:08:30 likewise: hello! Dec 07 16:08:42 jeremy_laine: you might like this patch: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3427 Dec 07 16:09:24 jeremy_laine: displays (powerpc) cpu core idle/busy on a LED Dec 07 16:09:46 heh, pretty cool! Dec 07 16:10:05 jeremy_laine: btw, I got the MPC8313ERDB schematics Dec 07 16:10:07 speaking of LEDs, I am really thinking we should init the LEDS to off Dec 07 16:10:23 jeremy_laine: why? Dec 07 16:10:40 because otherwise it's not coherent: /sys/class/leds/foo/brightness will say "0" even though the LED is on to start off with Dec 07 16:11:00 jeremy_laine: ok, yes, I see the coherence Dec 07 16:11:33 jeremy_laine: we indeed cannot read back the LED status. On a read on that address, you read some configuration settings (jumpers) on the board Dec 07 16:11:56 yup Dec 07 16:11:59 jeremy_laine: I might add a read function for that, because we allocate the address space resource. Dec 07 16:12:18 jeremy_laine: so that board platform code can access these settings. Dec 07 16:12:32 one thing I was wondering about, what would you think of tying the LED definition to openfirmware? Dec 07 16:13:09 that way you can set the LED names in the .dts file Dec 07 16:14:06 nah , forget that actually it's overkill for something this simple Dec 07 16:14:42 jeremy_laine: good idea, My knowledge of device tree stuff is still small. Makes a good exercise. The problem is that it's not really a device, it's too board specific piece of latch logic. Dec 07 16:15:25 jeremy_laine: LED class is already considered overkill by many Dec 07 16:16:18 jeremy_laine: I'ld rather play with the real-time patches and the DMA engines, the LEDs are now good enough to use during debugging. Dec 07 16:19:45 I'm going to commit that patch now, I have received an OK on the license change to Dual GPL/MIT. Dec 07 16:20:21 OK. It won't change anything unless I use the trigger, right? Dec 07 16:21:18 likewise: Whilst some consider it overkill, others thing it lacks many features :( Dec 07 16:21:55 RP: I like it as it is :-) Dec 07 16:22:16 jeremy_laine: correct Dec 07 16:22:21 likewise: I might call on you to announce that on LKML at some point ;-) Dec 07 16:23:15 RP: Exactly who am I up against then? :-) Dec 07 16:23:28 s/who/whom/ Dec 07 16:24:02 RP: "Likewise likes the LED class as it is as much as he likes OE as it is." suits me fine :-) Dec 07 16:25:59 likewise: Nobody atm but I'll no doubt get asked to add some new feature to it again soon ;-) Dec 07 16:26:51 RP: Morse code Dec 07 16:27:24 * mwester added morse code to SlugOS' bootup, perhaps it's reusable ;) :D Dec 07 16:27:55 likewise: I'd have no issue with a morse code trigger as long as its modular and doesn't touch the core Dec 07 16:28:09 modules don't bother anyone... Dec 07 16:31:21 re Dec 07 16:31:42 RP: what are your thoughts on http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-December/003699.html ? Dec 07 16:32:24 koen: Back out the lockfile changes only Dec 07 16:33:41 koen: Just remove the bb.utils. bits and add the functions back along with the import fcntl Dec 07 16:36:13 koen: I'll reply Dec 07 16:38:25 rwhitby: pong Dec 07 16:39:09 RP: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/bitbake188.diff.txt Dec 07 16:39:31 koen: looks good, should work fine Dec 07 16:40:15 RP:Thanks for taking a look at the kexec patches this weekend :) Dec 07 16:40:42 * hvontres1home bows down to kernel hackers Dec 07 16:41:03 cbrake, Henryk_afc: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/Dec-07-1.html Dec 07 16:42:15 koen: very interesting Dec 07 16:43:28 koen, how well do you know the sdr bigshots Dec 07 16:43:50 Crofton|home: I know you :) Dec 07 16:44:19 at twente Dec 07 16:44:34 based on my time on the phone this morning, I am a buig shot Dec 07 16:44:35 Crofton|home: Looking for consulting gigs? Dec 07 16:44:41 heh Dec 07 16:44:42 yeah Dec 07 16:44:58 I need koen to do so some workshop promotion though :) Dec 07 16:46:22 koen, can you circulate this at school? Dec 07 16:46:24 http://www.cisdr-workshop.org/ Dec 07 16:47:50 * koen ponders on convincing the uni to sponser me to go to that workshop Dec 07 16:52:09 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r60155cef... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-2.6.23: Add LED trigger for CPU activity. Added powerpc hook. Build module for MPC8313E-RDB machine. Dec 07 16:52:14 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb0dc261f... 10/ (1 classes/package_ipk.bbclass conf/sanity.conf): package_ipk.bbclass, sanity.conf: attemp to be compatible with bitbake 1.8.8 again Dec 07 16:57:26 likewise: I almost have my radeon card working on the efika Dec 07 16:57:40 * koen is waiting for xf86-input-mousedev to compile Dec 07 16:57:56 koen: 9250? Dec 07 16:58:02 yes Dec 07 16:58:18 (--) PCI:*(0:16:0) ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] rev 1, Mem @ 0x80000000/27, 0x88000000/16, I/O @ 0x1000/8, BIOS @ 0x88020000/17 Dec 07 16:58:31 well, the box says 9250 Dec 07 16:59:22 koen: ok, got that card, good news :-) Dec 07 16:59:55 rebuilding against head w/ 1.8.8 Dec 07 17:11:39 koen: what are the hurdles to get the radeon to work on the efika? Dec 07 17:11:58 figuring out which packages Xorg needs Dec 07 17:12:13 what kind of gfx does efika have? Dec 07 17:12:21 micropal: none Dec 07 17:12:29 it has an agp-over-pci slot Dec 07 17:12:36 so I plugged in a radeon Dec 07 17:12:50 I'm working on a freescale mitx board Dec 07 17:13:39 micropal: which board? Dec 07 17:14:21 this one http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=RDMPC8349EOIB&fsrch=1 Dec 07 17:14:25 bye! Dec 07 17:15:11 http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/misc/freescale_mpc8349e_mitx.jpg (image of it) Dec 07 17:16:14 sweet board Dec 07 17:16:28 I also had another devboard from freescale, but not as fancy Dec 07 17:17:07 router + nas in easy way Dec 07 17:17:13 Yeah. Dec 07 17:17:14 micropal: how much it costs? Dec 07 17:17:29 has someone already compiled xulrunner inside OE? Dec 07 17:17:39 I've been having trouble with the linking with mozjs Dec 07 17:17:46 It looks to lack two symbols Dec 07 17:17:55 Oh. It's a bit expensive. I think it's like ~600 EUR Dec 07 17:18:50 but that's not just the board. It's a kit with harddrive and stuff. Dec 07 17:18:58 ../../dist/lib/components/libxpconnect.a(xpcthreadcontext.o): In function `XPCJSContextStack::Push(JSContext*)': Dec 07 17:19:01 xpcthreadcontext.cpp:(.text+0x4c1): undefined reference to `JS_SaveFrameChain' Dec 07 17:19:24 It came with another distribution, but as I am familiar with OE from other projects, I went for OE on this one as well. Dec 07 17:19:32 But libmozjs.so is being linked with the binary Dec 07 17:21:47 Is anyone using OE on coldfire processors? Dec 07 17:25:43 as build for coldfire? Dec 07 17:25:51 from what I know no one Dec 07 17:25:52 yeah Dec 07 17:26:03 micropal: no, I worked with Coldfire under uclinux before. Dec 07 17:26:06 we do not support m68k yet Dec 07 17:26:11 afaik blackfin is the closest to working uclinux machines Dec 07 17:26:29 Actually, there are blackfins and colfires with mmu Dec 07 17:26:58 sadly both blackfin boards I have lack mmu Dec 07 17:27:00 micropal: yes, the fact is though, that the cheaper powerpc's are as interesting as the MMU-full coldfires Dec 07 17:27:49 m68k was nice arch Dec 07 17:28:05 it is a nice arch, still actively developed hrw Dec 07 17:28:07 guys, what was the trick again to force BB to compile _and_package_ all dependencies of package "foo"? Sometimes the dependencies are compiled, just not packaged (which kills feed generation of course) Dec 07 17:28:22 CoreDump: -c buildall Dec 07 17:28:30 RP: excellent thank you Dec 07 17:29:10 micropal: yes, but I do not have any m68k hardware since I sold my amiga1200 which had 68040/40 Dec 07 17:31:27 * CoreDump had a 68030/42 ;) Dec 07 17:31:35 I'm looking into using OE in industrial controllers Dec 07 17:32:10 CoreDump: mtec? Dec 07 17:32:19 I believe so Dec 07 17:32:34 sadly I sold the machine Dec 07 17:32:40 CoreDump: I had 030/50 (Blizzard IV), then bought Apollo 1240/40 Dec 07 17:33:00 CoreDump: for me it was not sad to sold it. time of that hardware passed Dec 07 17:33:14 and I was tired of 16grey 720x480 screen Dec 07 17:33:24 I'd like to try running linux on it ;) Just for kicks Dec 07 17:33:31 micropal: welcome aboard, we gladly accept m86k patchwork :-) Dec 07 17:33:37 Therefore, both mmu-less cpu's and also softcores such as microblaze are interesting. Dec 07 17:36:18 my system does not boot over nfs it did so with trunk from last week. Dec 07 17:36:19 CoreDump: I had debian on my amiga Dec 07 17:36:34 anybody seeing this problem Dec 07 17:36:56 ~smartquestions Dec 07 17:36:57 [smartquestions] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Dec 07 17:38:39 * Khem looks through commits Dec 07 17:39:06 Khem: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-December/003698.html Dec 07 17:42:25 no changes in sysvinit Dec 07 17:42:44 hmmm Dec 07 17:44:16 wow Dec 07 17:44:26 xserver-xorg does not play well with insane.bbclass Dec 07 17:44:35 it's been in packageqa for over an hour now Dec 07 17:47:06 ~lart xserver-xorg-xprint Dec 07 17:47:06 * ibot whacks xserver-xorg-xprint with a giant beaver's tail Dec 07 17:49:00 koen@bitbake:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp$ find angstrom/work/ppc603e-angstrom-linux/xserver-xorg-1_1.3.0.0-r4/install/xserver-xorg-xprint/ | wc -l Dec 07 17:49:06 *drumroll* Dec 07 17:49:17 156425 Dec 07 17:49:52 yes, 150k files Dec 07 17:51:53 bloody hell Dec 07 17:53:05 * * OE Bug 3427 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise(AT)gmx.net Dec 07 17:53:06 * *  Add LED classCPU activity trigger Dec 07 17:53:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3427 Dec 07 17:54:15 koen: someone still use it? Dec 07 17:54:58 no idea, but it gets packaged as part of xserver-xorg Dec 07 17:55:04 btw - does someone remember page with 'low level' debugging infos? Dec 07 17:57:36 debugging what? Dec 07 17:57:40 you mean LL_DEBUG? Dec 07 17:58:27 yes Dec 07 17:59:00 no idea on that, sorry Dec 07 17:59:32 I have problem with booting Versatile with armv6 (in qemu) Dec 07 17:59:44 tried printascii already? Dec 07 17:59:55 or does it boot far enough for messages to appear? Dec 07 18:01:33 Uncompressing Linux....................................................................................................... done, booting the kernel. Dec 07 18:01:38 and hang Dec 07 18:02:29 hrw: You want printascii... Dec 07 18:02:33 yeah, try printascii Dec 07 18:02:36 I know Dec 07 18:02:42 just checking now how to use it Dec 07 18:02:44 I think the patch is even in OE Dec 07 18:02:52 hrw: apply patch, boot Dec 07 18:03:00 (and compile of course..) Dec 07 18:03:26 hrw: Apply patch, make sure CONFIG_DEBUG_LL is set and boot Dec 07 18:03:56 do you need debug_ll for that? Dec 07 18:04:05 hrw: org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-openmoko-devel/printascii-2.6.23.patch Dec 07 18:04:15 yes, otherwise printascii isn't defined Dec 07 18:04:31 ok Dec 07 18:05:12 hrw: you will get double messages after the console has been initialized Dec 07 18:06:28 <6>CPU: Testing write buffer coherency: ok Dec 07 18:06:28 Internal error: Oops - undefined instruction: 0 [#1] Dec 07 18:06:30 uf. Dec 07 18:06:44 CPU: ARMv6-compatible processor [4117b363] revision 3 (ARMv6TEJ), cr=00c0387f Dec 07 18:06:44 Machine: ARM-Versatile PB Dec 07 18:07:45 now can go further Dec 07 18:07:58 likewise: I solved my OF problem Dec 07 18:08:07 likewise: rx and tx were shorted Dec 07 18:09:08 koen: bb1.8.8 and your patch give me a build problem on the linux kernel: http://www.pastebin.ca/808527 Dec 07 18:09:20 koen: yes, on the board, or on the cable? Dec 07 18:10:26 cable Dec 07 18:11:00 bye Dec 07 18:11:21 likewise: s/bb.utils.lockfile/lockfile/g and commit Dec 07 18:11:27 I missed one occurence Dec 07 18:11:33 koen: ok Dec 07 18:13:54 committing Dec 07 18:15:13 hrw: I think it will be because in qemu that board has a v5 processor Dec 07 18:15:41 RP: -cpu arm1136 gives armv6 for it Dec 07 18:15:45 but I will check more Dec 07 18:19:53 you need recent qemu for armv6 to work Dec 07 18:20:04 Khem: 20071121 is enough Dec 07 18:20:20 should be Dec 07 18:20:25 I booted armv6 rootfs in qemu already Dec 07 18:20:32 ok Dec 07 18:20:33 but on realview via initrd Dec 07 18:20:51 hrw: with NPTL/TLS Dec 07 18:20:56 now I work on getting versatilepb/armv6 booting as this has pci bus Dec 07 18:21:00 Khem: yes Dec 07 18:21:22 did u use the TLS patch from pbrook Dec 07 18:21:23 Khem: in Poky we have newer qemu available - took few days to get it working Dec 07 18:21:30 which one? Dec 07 18:21:51 something new or his old nptl related ones? Dec 07 18:22:00 I think the old one Dec 07 18:22:03 not new one Dec 07 18:25:53 cbrake: ping Dec 07 18:26:10 hrw: where can I grab your qemu sources Dec 07 18:26:32 djay-il: hey Dec 07 18:28:16 cbrake: how are you? Dec 07 18:28:25 its been a long time :-) Dec 07 18:29:10 Khem: http://pokylinux.org/ and then svn Dec 07 18:29:30 djay-il: yes, I'm doing great -- how's married life? Dec 07 18:30:29 cbrake: its cool. I'm not quite got that yet, but its nice, thanks Dec 07 18:30:48 hrw: Can you boot X/Matchbox on qemu Dec 07 18:30:52 cbrake: I have a personal question, do you mind? Dec 07 18:31:44 Khem: working on it now Dec 07 18:32:25 cbrake: sure Dec 07 18:33:42 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1) Dec 07 18:33:44 YES! Dec 07 18:33:49 hrw: "If you use kernel from , change it to /dev/input/event1, if you use kernel from , change it to /dev/input/event0" - debian/zaurus 'developers' on touchscreens Dec 07 18:34:39 ;))) Dec 07 18:34:44 morons Dec 07 18:35:22 my zaurus boots with /dev/umba1 -> /dev/umba189 (no other /dev/ entries) - how to use it? Dec 07 18:35:47 I think that udev can setup such setup into working state Dec 07 18:36:44 O RLY? Dec 07 18:36:50 I love those "Section mismatch: reference to " messages... Dec 07 18:36:51 *mimics owl* Dec 07 18:36:57 koen: O_RLY you mean? Dec 07 18:37:39 hrw, koen: hi Dec 07 18:37:40 like in FILE* file_my = fopen("/dev/umba1", O_RLY); Dec 07 18:37:45 heh Dec 07 18:37:50 Freeing init memory: 152K Dec 07 18:37:52 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_RLY%3F Dec 07 18:37:54 hrw: how far are we from the 2mb /bot Dec 07 18:38:02 ant: 3 light years Dec 07 18:38:23 hrw: I see Dec 07 18:38:39 hrw: but wont beleve... Dec 07 18:38:42 118M ppc603e/xserver-xorg-xprint_1.3.0.0-r4_ppc603e.ipk Dec 07 18:38:42 hrw: what browser do u use in poky. Dec 07 18:38:58 Khem: web" Dec 07 18:39:08 webkit based ? Dec 07 18:39:09 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r65c91eeb... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): package_ipk.bbclass: Fix one remaining occurence of bb.utils.lockfile(), so that it works with bitbake 1.8.8. Dec 07 18:39:16 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd15e00e8... 10/ (1 packages/enchant/enchant_1.3.0.bb): enchant: add workaround for libstdc++ linking problem. Frobbing LDFLAGS doesn't help Dec 07 18:39:21 Khem: it is OH one based on gtkhtml but there is also w-i-p on webkit version Dec 07 18:39:40 hrw: tried midori 0.12 on poky yet? Dec 07 18:40:13 no Dec 07 18:40:40 koen: as you probably noticed I work on armv6 now mostly Dec 07 18:41:01 you asked a webkit question today :) Dec 07 18:41:06 I did Dec 07 18:41:16 and I have 28485 built Dec 07 18:41:22 hrw: it would be nice to have qemu-arm boot with X stuff Dec 07 18:42:11 Khem: we do that with qemuarm machine for ages Dec 07 18:42:16 qemuarm is armv5te Dec 07 18:42:24 something is bad in the new rootfile system that does not let me boot Dec 07 18:42:43 OE? Dec 07 18:42:45 hrw: Nice, I think I am inclined to use it Dec 07 18:42:55 OE yes Dec 07 18:43:09 Khem: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/qemuarm/ Dec 07 18:43:13 I never tried any OE based distros yet Dec 07 18:43:37 only angstrom Dec 07 18:44:21 Khem: qemu-native which you built with OE is able to run qemuarm images Dec 07 18:46:14 it should for locales Dec 07 18:47:24 it do armv4*/armv5* locales Dec 07 18:47:39 ~lart me for not enabling EABI in kernel Dec 07 18:47:39 * ibot holds hrw to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails for not enabling EABI in kernel Dec 07 18:47:54 ibot: that was ugly... Dec 07 18:52:21 hrw: poky has its own repo how do u coordinate the dev work with OE Dec 07 18:54:09 Khem: we (RP and I) merge in both ways from time to time Dec 07 18:54:14 actually I want to have a system with X11 booted on qemu-arm Dec 07 18:54:37 Khem: MACHINE=qemuarm bitbake x11-image qemu-native Dec 07 18:54:46 hrw: and armv6 is cherry on top Dec 07 18:55:03 Khem: armv6 will be cherry on top when I finish my qemu fighting Dec 07 18:55:16 agree Dec 07 18:55:20 oabi kernel boots.. eabi does not ;( Dec 07 18:55:34 * Khem has erased oabi from his brain Dec 07 18:56:44 hrw: did u discuss it in #qemu pbrook might know this issue already Dec 07 18:57:20 I discussed it a bit Dec 07 18:57:36 first want to check few more things before I will go there again Dec 07 18:57:47 k Dec 07 18:59:12 hmmm something is wrong in new /etc Dec 07 19:00:44 INIT: version 2.86 booting Dec 07 19:00:46 ;) Dec 07 19:00:59 yeah and stuck after that :) Dec 07 19:01:05 trying hit and trial Dec 07 19:01:31 my qemu device boots now Dec 07 19:01:37 Configuring gnome-vfs Dec 07 19:02:50 Linux qemuarm 2.6.23 #11 Fri Dec 7 19:59:57 CET 2007 armv6l unknown unknown GNU/Linux Dec 07 19:02:53 :)) Dec 07 19:03:11 cool Dec 07 19:03:34 hrw: once I have X11 image and qemu-native compiled how do u reccoment to boot it Dec 07 19:03:37 nfs ? Dec 07 19:03:43 no Dec 07 19:03:47 ah then Dec 07 19:03:48 hddimage emulation Dec 07 19:04:00 ok Dec 07 19:04:15 I dont think many people use nfs here Dec 07 19:04:24 even on hardware Dec 07 19:04:38 I use nfs but not as nfsroot Dec 07 19:05:12 oh context is nfsroot booting :) Dec 07 19:05:37 * Crofton|home does nfsroot sometimes Dec 07 19:05:51 Angstrom 2008.1-test-20071130 boots Angstrom 2008.1-test-20071207 does not Dec 07 19:06:00 Crofton|home: howdy Dec 07 19:06:30 Crofton|home: have you tried a fresh build Angstrom 2008 on OSK recently Dec 07 19:07:07 I think only 2007 Dec 07 19:07:20 I only nfsroot the Lyretch SFF SDR board Dec 07 19:07:26 and not in teh past few weeks Dec 07 19:07:31 * otavio does nfsroot all the time for development testing Dec 07 19:09:46 anyone available to try a xulrunner recipe? I'm still fighting with it with no success Dec 07 19:21:17 03Fabrice.Aeschbacher 07org.oe.dev * r9fc11ccd... 10/ (1 packages/xfce/xfce-mcs-manager.inc): xfce-mcs-manager: added intltool-native into deps Dec 07 19:28:31 bye all Dec 07 19:32:46 ah I found the problem I am having Dec 07 19:33:09 he khem Dec 07 19:33:18 khem what was the problem? Dec 07 19:34:56 it is this auto eth0 Dec 07 19:34:58 likewise: your commit had some extras in it Dec 07 19:35:14 Khem: ah, that closes the nfs link Dec 07 19:35:22 koen: yeah Dec 07 19:35:40 bad bad Dec 07 19:36:31 koen hi Dec 07 19:36:33 koen: do u know any workaround for it Dec 07 19:36:44 hey bmidgley Dec 07 19:36:54 bmidgley: had any snow yet? Dec 07 19:37:05 we have but it's raining now :) Dec 07 19:37:16 Khem: not really except "don't boot from nfs" Dec 07 19:37:19 did you see the gumstix guys are finally switching to oe Dec 07 19:37:24 Khem: I have the same problem with my PVR Dec 07 19:37:33 bmidgley: yes Dec 07 19:37:46 bmidgley: sakoman has been on #oe for a few months now :) Dec 07 19:38:03 koen: thats not a good choice I think nfsroot is pretty handy Dec 07 19:38:20 koen I have a version skew or missing packages problem building it... Dec 07 19:38:23 Khem: indeed Dec 07 19:38:53 builds fine on an ancient machine running ubuntu through several upgrades Dec 07 19:39:16 but on a newly set up os, the build appears to work but when running it just stops after mounting root Dec 07 19:40:24 koen: why did we let it in by default I think we can let it in and keep it commented so if someone wants he can enable it Dec 07 19:40:45 Khem: it's needed for headless devices to get networking Dec 07 19:41:02 conflicting requirements Dec 07 19:41:05 hmmm Dec 07 19:41:32 koen can I make more detailed build logs I can compare? Dec 07 19:42:27 bmidgley: you could diff the resulting images Dec 07 19:43:07 bmidgley: sakoman is sending me a gumstix kit, so I can compare notes with Crofton|home on gumstix problems Dec 07 19:45:33 koen excellent. he sent me one too to help w bluetooth :) Dec 07 19:45:52 the resulting images have completely different binaries but the rest seems similar Dec 07 19:46:13 one machine was upgraded to gutsy the other is a new install so they should be virtually the same Dec 07 19:46:33 gutsy refuses to mount my OE partition.... Dec 07 19:49:06 koen I needed to listen better in your oe talk :) Dec 07 19:51:13 * Crofton|home needs to reorganize his work space at home .... Dec 07 19:58:17 crofton Dec 07 19:58:33 crofton gratz for your master Dec 07 20:00:02 Master of Disaster Dec 07 20:01:04 * * OE Bug 3436 has been created by  Dec 07 20:01:06 * * libx11-native-1.0.1-r0-do_compile Dec 07 20:01:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3436 Dec 07 20:01:16 * * OE Bug 3437 has been created by  Dec 07 20:01:18 * * xfonts-xorg-6.8-r1-do_compile Dec 07 20:01:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3437 Dec 07 20:03:26 Has anybody out there managed to build tmut lately? I would like to play with it on my poodle, but I get this error: http://www.pastebin.ca/808656 Dec 07 20:08:06 (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled Dec 07 20:08:09 there we go Dec 07 20:08:25 finally a clutter capable device on my desk :) Dec 07 20:11:22 * Khem tried qemuarm on OE Dec 07 20:11:35 hvontres|home: too old tinymail snapshot? Dec 07 20:12:36 koen: how would external toolchain work wit OE Dec 07 20:12:39 now Dec 07 20:12:48 Khem: you'd have to ask RP Dec 07 20:12:58 have you tried one yet ? Dec 07 20:13:07 cbrake has an ariclte on that Dec 07 20:13:14 Crofton: link ? Dec 07 20:13:30 http://bec-systems.com/web/content/view/56/9/ Dec 07 20:13:52 koen, we can spend any money to send you to the sdr workshop Dec 07 20:13:55 mickey_away: "Let me please remind you to mtn pull && mtn update before mtn push'ing." Dec 07 20:13:56 er Dec 07 20:13:57 can not Dec 07 20:14:12 but, there is no admission cost Dec 07 20:14:27 mickey_away: I think you mean ""Let me please remind you to mtn pull && mtn update before mtn commit'ing." Dec 07 20:14:53 re Dec 07 20:29:18 hi florian Dec 07 20:29:36 dfb-example.c:2:31: error: directfb/directfb.h: No such file or directory Dec 07 20:29:55 Has someone been messing with directfb include directories recently? Dec 07 20:30:22 mwester: i think sakoman was Dec 07 20:31:42 grrrr.... Dec 07 20:37:52 * likewise catching up Dec 07 20:38:17 * likewise does nfsroot mounts, loves radeon support and is sorry for the extra commits. Dec 07 20:39:03 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd3ec22c2... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-efika: enable radeon drm Dec 07 20:39:47 yes Dec 07 20:40:01 but I think we will back out that change (to directfb) Dec 07 20:40:17 we changed the wrong thing to fix directfb-exmaples Dec 07 20:43:51 g Dec 07 20:45:38 cbrake: I would expected the same for binutils (in your recent article): ASSUME_PROVIDED += " virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc " ? Dec 07 20:46:57 likewise: yes, that is probably right Dec 07 20:47:16 likewise: the article is several years old -- I really need to get dates turned on with my website ... Dec 07 20:49:20 cbrake: ah, I was mistaken by the date indeed :-) Dec 07 20:49:33 likewise: yes, that is very confusing! Dec 07 20:49:54 cbrake: I thought it was up-to-date with the current efforts in OE to allow packaged *or* pre-built cross tools. Dec 07 20:50:48 likewise: :-) Dec 07 20:51:09 ok, I now have a modified date at the bottom of my web articles -- hopefully that will help Dec 07 20:51:24 Crofton: you're working on embedded displays? Dec 07 20:51:35 not seriously Dec 07 20:51:39 I still need to remove the date from the top -- I don't really need to inform the world what the current date is Dec 07 20:51:44 just when I have time to help sakoman Dec 07 20:55:05 Crofton which display are you testing on Dec 07 20:55:19 I have the gumstix samsung and the mistral LCD for the OSK Dec 07 21:04:12 I saw a 320x240 tft the other day for $15, 2.2" Dec 07 21:04:37 ok, looks like I need to back out the fix-configure includes patch Dec 07 21:04:45 then fix examples Dec 07 21:04:55 to get directfb working again Dec 07 21:05:12 Crofton|work: you test this on the omap machine? Dec 07 21:05:17 anyone know of a package that I can test the build against that does build with diorectfb? Dec 07 21:05:20 I can Dec 07 21:05:27 I ran the exmaples there Dec 07 21:23:10 ~lart vmware Dec 07 21:23:10 * ibot blasts vmware to oblivion with a kamehameha wave Dec 07 21:23:41 why i cant compile the vmware-modules for a newer kernel instead of the running one Dec 07 21:29:58 morning all Dec 07 21:32:53 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rf4d447cb... 10/ (1 packages/dropbear/dropbear-early_1.0.bb): dropbear-early 1.0: Assumes dropbear is present, so RDEPEND on it. Dec 07 21:32:58 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * ra12ae3d0... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): Dec 07 21:32:58 task-base: Add kernel-module-nls-utf8 to RRECOMMENDS_task-base-kernel26. Dec 07 21:32:58 * To clear it off from machine configs. Dec 07 21:33:02 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r832b5453... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): hx4700.conf: Remove NLS modules, not machine specific. Dec 07 21:33:10 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * ra6edc9b8... 10/ (1 conf/machine/htcuniversal.conf): htcuniversal.conf: Remove NLS modules, not machine-specific. Dec 07 21:33:16 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r50bdeee5... 10/ (1 conf/machine/h4000.conf): h4000.conf: Add kernel-module-h4000-bt. Dec 07 21:33:20 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r00758b6f... 10/ (1 conf/machine/h2200.conf): h2200.conf: Deploy and autoload sound modules, should make sound available. Dec 07 21:33:25 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r0c579839... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): PocketPC machines: Remove bogus af-key module. Dec 07 21:33:29 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * ra55003d6... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): PocketPC machines: Remove non machine-specific modules. Dec 07 21:33:34 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * ra08cbabb... 10/ (1 classes/kernel.bbclass): Dec 07 21:33:34 kernel.bbclass: Add kernel-vmlinux to kernel-modules dependency blacklist. Dec 07 21:33:34 * This cuts x11-gpe-image by 3M for example. Dec 07 21:33:40 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rd0b4bc9f... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.21-hh19.bb): linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.21-hh19: Bump PR to propogate kernel-modules fix. Dec 07 21:33:44 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rf4d8a3dd... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Dec 07 21:33:44 devimage-image: Refactor to use task, to get proper RDEPENDS/RRECOMMENDS. Dec 07 21:33:44 * Also, more tools. Dec 07 21:33:48 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r824df205... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): linux-rp: Bump PR to get kernel-modules fixes. Dec 07 21:33:54 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * redca9292... 10/ (1 classes/kernel.bbclass): Dec 07 21:33:54 kernel.bbclass: When processing module_autoload's, also try canonical name (with dashes). Dec 07 21:33:54 * To remind, modprobe accepts both '-' & '_' in module names interchangeably. Dec 07 21:33:54 Actual module files use both. Still, in OE, some consistency is needed. And its Dec 07 21:33:56 natural to use dash as the separator, as package names already use that. So, Dec 07 21:33:58 if canonical naming is used, it all will "just work", refardless of what separator Dec 07 21:34:00 chars specific kernel module filename randomly contains. Dec 07 21:34:02 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r2a0cf3e7... 10/ (1 conf/machine/h4000.conf): h4000.conf: Use canonical module names in autoloads. Dec 07 21:34:07 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r0284d53b... 10/ (1 conf/machine/h3600.conf): h3600.conf: Remove crap. Dec 07 21:34:09 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r387fe9ed... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: Bump PR again to make sure all machine config changes propogated. Dec 07 21:46:03 cbrake: do you know of a good dev. board with processor and FPGA? Dec 07 21:46:38 likewise: no, nothing comes to mind offhand Dec 07 21:47:56 cbrake: I only found this so far, but the ep93xx is not really to my liking: http://www.embeddedarm.com/epc/ts7300-spec-h.htm Dec 07 21:48:40 likewise: I'm looking at a ep9302 board from glomation for an upcoming project Dec 07 21:48:47 likewise: you ever do much with the ep93xx? Dec 07 21:49:00 cbrake: I used to. Not anymore. Dec 07 21:50:22 likewise: what problems does the ep have? Dec 07 21:50:42 likewise: I have not touched them for about 6 years, and they were pretty buggy then Dec 07 21:53:58 cbrake: you ever played with the ep93xx series? Mostly the number of errata and necessary workarounds is quite high. Dec 07 21:54:23 cbrake: then, the support and lifetime of the product is uncertain for me. Dec 07 21:54:36 cbrake: nod Dec 07 22:18:55 !logs Dec 07 22:18:57 Channel logs for #oe are archived at: Dec 07 22:18:58 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23oe Dec 07 22:18:59 Live-logs are available at Dec 07 22:19:01 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23oe.livelog Dec 07 22:19:02 See ?? help-logs for usage instructions Dec 07 23:01:16 Did anyone use gdbserver with remote debugging recently, using GDB 6.6? Dec 07 23:06:56 grr, wife's work X-mas party is tonight Dec 07 23:10:13 mine is next week Dec 07 23:10:32 mine is thursday Dec 07 23:11:00 I need to stay long enough to be noticed, then I sneak out Dec 07 23:12:31 bye Dec 07 23:12:41 l8r Dec 07 23:18:27 he he Dec 07 23:19:07 he might get recognized as an OE guru and have to answer questions about why the kernel bb fails Dec 07 23:19:46 I'm investigating the issue with insane.bbclass Dec 07 23:19:57 but I'm not python wizard Dec 07 23:20:13 I guess we have false positive Dec 07 23:21:20 looking at the .la files in /oe/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib symlink Dec 07 23:22:45 http://www.pastebin.org/10849 Dec 07 23:23:00 this is bitbake helloworld from scratch Dec 07 23:23:11 QA issues Dec 07 23:25:40 this is libstdc++.la http://www.pastebin.org/10850 Dec 07 23:27:37 this is libmudflapth.la http://www.pastebin.org/10851 Dec 07 23:59:53 anybody get the "ImportError: No module named bzr" error running bb? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 08 02:59:57 2007