**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 08 02:59:57 2007 Dec 08 07:02:51 ~lart DaedalusX Dec 08 07:02:52 * ibot takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in DaedalusX's direction, hitting DaedalusX and sending DaedalusX flying into the closet Dec 08 07:03:09 I'm distinctly out of the closet, thanks. Dec 08 07:03:13 :P Dec 08 07:03:23 Tom Cruise on the other hand XD Dec 08 07:15:29 Im a new user Dec 08 07:15:36 anyone would like to help me Dec 08 07:17:02 kenney: of course Dec 08 07:17:06 what's the problem? Dec 08 07:17:12 2 problems.. Dec 08 07:17:19 1. Im a new user to IRC Dec 08 07:17:25 2. Im really new to OE Dec 08 07:18:24 I got to know about OE from foss.in Dec 08 07:19:58 cool. Do you have a specific target device you want to cross compile for? Dec 08 07:20:29 Attended a session by holger hans peter freyther Dec 08 07:20:37 nope.. Dec 08 07:21:56 I was looking at gumstixs Dec 08 07:22:01 kenney: that's zecke Dec 08 07:22:12 I also want to get a gumstix machine Dec 08 07:22:28 how is OE better than linux Dec 08 07:22:37 OE builds linux Dec 08 07:23:01 cross compilling based on metadata- do you know gentoo? Dec 08 07:23:56 heard about it.. Dec 08 07:25:21 gumstix works on linux Dec 08 07:25:28 so programming must be easier. Dec 08 07:25:45 I want to do a bluetooth application.. Dec 08 07:32:07 gumstix has builtin bluetooth Dec 08 07:32:13 and the build has bluez Dec 08 08:08:08 the Angstrom is an empty file in my STAGING_DIR/include/sys Dec 08 08:08:28 sounds a little fishy to me. is this expected? Dec 08 08:14:09 ok, actually, couple of the headers in is almost blank. I guess I'm missing something basic Dec 08 08:14:46 Is this arm specific? Dec 08 08:16:38 never mind... Dec 08 09:06:34 morning all Dec 08 10:16:17 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r47cad737... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): mesa: add 7.0.2 Dec 08 10:16:26 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r04e43267... 10/ (1 packages/mesa/mesa-dri_6.5.2.bb): mesa-dri: add RRECOMMENDS for drm kernel modules Dec 08 11:20:13 hi all, is there a way for two ppl to write C code together? Dec 08 11:20:26 I mean like google document? Dec 08 12:01:01 hello Dec 08 12:01:24 Can I have ipkg ignore md5sum checks if I want to test a package build by myself? Dec 08 12:01:42 (it checks the md5sum from the feeds by default) Dec 08 13:08:51 gm Dec 08 13:20:57 gm Dec 08 13:22:14 grumble, I was trying to perform remote debugging last night, and it took me three hours to understand that a no-debug build does not put anything useful in .debug/* ... :-) Dec 08 13:32:12 heh Dec 08 13:35:32 hello Dec 08 13:36:12 I found out the origin of QA issues for libstc++, libmudflap... Dec 08 13:36:28 it only happens doing -crebuild Dec 08 13:36:42 ...of course the packages are found... Dec 08 13:37:24 so I'd say it's not an issue Dec 08 13:55:42 hmmm, I am fetching bitbake-1.8.6? Dec 08 13:58:16 Crofton|home: you try to fetch 1.8.9? Dec 08 13:58:21 is that a trick question? Dec 08 13:58:53 I am building an image Dec 08 13:59:00 NOTE: package bitbake-1.8.6: started Dec 08 13:59:39 no, 1.8.9 tag was not set yesterday, if you try to pull it, you get everything. but Crofton's issue seems something else. Dec 08 14:00:01 yeah Dec 08 14:00:18 ant: so the AQ the issues remains after one did a rebuild once? Dec 08 14:00:20 not sure why runnnig bitbake foo-image would try to build bitbake ... Dec 08 14:00:24 s/AQ/QA Dec 08 14:01:02 Crofton|home: strange indeed. one would say the bitbake dependency was already met :-) Dec 08 14:01:09 yes :) Dec 08 14:01:39 The build should have failed on something else Dec 08 14:01:52 working on fixing the directfb issue I created Dec 08 14:02:03 * Crofton|home need to go to ikea and look at office furniture Dec 08 14:02:15 Crofton|home: appreciated. I hope to play with directfb on some display soon Dec 08 14:02:16 ikea is four hours away :( Dec 08 14:02:38 10 minutes max for me :-) Dec 08 14:02:43 grrrr Dec 08 14:02:56 everything is better in .eu Dec 08 14:03:11 Crofton|home: well, looking outside, I'ld say no Dec 08 14:03:20 well Dec 08 14:03:25 Although I guess it won't rain todat Dec 08 14:03:27 y Dec 08 14:03:27 I usspetc you see the same as I do Dec 08 14:03:34 grey and chilly with rain Dec 08 14:03:38 yup Dec 08 14:04:05 the grass is greener on the other side of the pond Dec 08 14:04:19 we could consider swap places? :-) Dec 08 14:04:34 we should arrange an OE exchange program Dec 08 14:04:39 better Dec 08 14:04:43 and get funded for it Dec 08 14:04:50 exactly! Dec 08 14:05:31 or set up an OE expert support company, multinational even Dec 08 14:06:01 <|fred|> you can try to get sponsored by trolltech :), it was working a few years ago Dec 08 14:06:03 in a way, we already have that, we just foret to chrage Dec 08 14:06:12 the guys from kgdb did it, the guys behind mysql did, the guys behind ecos did. Dec 08 14:06:20 yep Dec 08 14:06:32 Yeah we missed that in the business plan Dec 08 14:06:56 is what (in little) i'm doing here ! Dec 08 14:07:09 gremlin[it]: you got customers? Dec 08 14:07:24 be part of an affiliate program should be great ! :) Dec 08 14:07:53 at now the company where i work for and some consultant work .. plus a couple of course Dec 08 14:08:31 gremlin[it]: full time employed? Dec 08 14:08:50 yes Dec 08 14:09:01 like|ikea: i removed /temp again for the n time Dec 08 14:09:20 It's hard for me to do both, I'm doubting whether I should start alone fully Dec 08 14:09:32 like|ikea: was doing -crebuild all the times (was in build script) Dec 08 14:09:35 ant: you could build the cross tool and tar them up Dec 08 14:09:36 when I'll finish i really would like see the OE logo inside a surgery room :) Dec 08 14:09:45 like|ikea: my build script... Dec 08 14:10:02 * Crofton|home would love to have linunx embedded in him Dec 08 14:10:22 like|ikea at now i have only truly spotted contultant work ... so i can't live with them ... Dec 08 14:10:38 a gumstix and some rubber gloves would do the trick Dec 08 14:10:45 Crofton|home, "in your" what ? Dec 08 14:10:57 gremlin[it]: sorry I don't get that last sentence, what did you mean? Dec 08 14:10:59 I dunno, brain maybe :) Dec 08 14:11:14 I think the first thing to appear is embedded stuff in clothing Dec 08 14:11:32 like|ikea: all the files with suspect .la come from gcc-cross 4.1.2-r13 Dec 08 14:11:42 like|ikea: ? Dec 08 14:11:51 yeah, we have some guys doing "wearable computing" research here Dec 08 14:12:11 ant: yes, I know. Dec 08 14:12:20 ant: it's just that I cannot find out why Dec 08 14:12:23 like|ikea, i do both full time and consultant work cause i cannot live with only consultant work :( ... Dec 08 14:12:37 Crofton|home nice !!! Dec 08 14:12:48 like|ikea: I was not sure but checked the creation timestamp... Dec 08 14:12:56 gremlin[it]: ok, you perform design and programming as well? Dec 08 14:13:45 like|ikea: dunno you but have also a couple of broken symlinks to gfortran Dec 08 14:14:11 like|ikea yes, usualy BSP, a Linux base system plus a little help in the application customer develop Dec 08 14:15:07 * gremlin[it] dream when Linux will be 101% reliable and will be used in implanted devices! Dec 08 14:18:17 have to go (season shopping...) bb Dec 08 14:19:22 'morning all Dec 08 14:19:42 * koen declares that it's excellent weather for hot chocolate and a futurama DVD set Dec 08 14:19:52 gm Dec 08 14:19:54 hi koen, HAHAHAHHA ! Dec 08 14:20:36 like|ikea: xf86-video-ati makes my LCD flicker like crazy, radeonfb + kdrive doesn't Dec 08 14:20:53 koen, what package that needs dfb builds? Dec 08 14:20:55 like|ikea: but DRI works, and I think if one installs mesa-dri AIGLX should work as well Dec 08 14:21:07 Crofton|home: gst-plugins-bad Dec 08 14:21:08 koen: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl ligt plat? Dec 08 14:21:12 ok Dec 08 14:21:20 I am goign to revert the dfb changes Dec 08 14:21:23 Freak_NL: new ISP, try http://dominion.thruhere.net Dec 08 14:21:24 and test against that Dec 08 14:21:29 than try fixinfg -exmaples Dec 08 14:21:50 koen: some packages refer to your webspace Dec 08 14:21:58 gpe themes Dec 08 14:22:03 ah, right Dec 08 14:22:20 gpe industrial and clearlooks I think Dec 08 14:22:42 ./conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf:5:#@MAINTAINER: Koen Kooi Dec 08 14:22:45 whoops Dec 08 14:23:27 grep -r utwente * ? :) Dec 08 14:32:45 ok gst-plugions builds Dec 08 14:34:18 hmm Dec 08 14:34:36 but gst-plugins-bad does not appear to DEPEnD on directfb? Dec 08 14:35:02 ah Dec 08 14:35:06 time to add one :) Dec 08 14:35:22 heh Dec 08 14:35:23 ok Dec 08 14:35:52 I am going to push changes that backl out the heasder file mess and your fix Dec 08 14:36:09 any other packages I shoudl try and build first Dec 08 14:36:12 evas? Dec 08 14:36:56 you'd have to ask mickey|family Dec 08 14:37:18 I am trying evas, vivijim mentioned it Dec 08 14:37:55 maybe bug tracvker has some ... Dec 08 14:39:40 * koen should stop working on 3 different machines Dec 08 14:40:03 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r150235a3... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): various files: update my email address and website address Dec 08 14:40:08 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1c0cdd75... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): xorg-driver: update ati, add xgi and vmware Dec 08 15:00:49 how do I delete a file from mtn? Dec 08 15:00:57 mtn del file, mtn commit file? Dec 08 15:01:08 seems like it Dec 08 15:01:16 I hope so :) Dec 08 15:01:49 mtn also lets you copy and move files Dec 08 15:02:16 yeah Dec 08 15:02:22 the commit is a bit funny :) Dec 08 15:19:32 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r754f491e... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Dec 08 15:19:32 directfb : Remove patch that changes include file path. For bug #3415. Dec 08 15:19:32 This will break directfb-examples, this package needs fixing. Dec 08 16:04:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc59b967f... 10/ (1 classes/pkgconfig.bbclass): pkgconfig.bbclass: sed out references to staging as well Dec 08 16:05:16 morning all Dec 08 16:07:19 gm Dec 08 16:09:55 WoooooohoooOO!!! Is that the directfb fix I see committed? Will gst-plugins finally build now? Dec 08 16:10:07 * mwester runs off to see if he can complete a build. Dec 08 16:10:53 is bb currently busted? running bb give me a 'bzr module not found' error?! Dec 08 16:39:05 hi HopsNBarley Dec 08 16:39:24 bb 1.8.8 rev 986 works ok for me Dec 08 16:41:34 hi likewise. Dec 08 16:41:44 ah, head building okay again? Dec 08 16:44:34 HopsNBarley: my local head is 17 hours old, works with bb 1.8.8 rev 986 Dec 08 17:06:57 mwester, yes, gst-plugins-bad built Dec 08 17:07:00 and evas Dec 08 17:07:07 sorry for the confusion Dec 08 17:07:27 part of the problem seems to be packages that need directfb do not have it in their DEPENDs Dec 08 17:22:08 * mwester does the happy dance as his build proceeds beyond gst-plugins Dec 08 17:22:29 mwester, do you use directfb? Dec 08 17:22:41 I don't. Openmoko does. Dec 08 17:24:45 I don't need the media player and all that cruft, but there's no simple way to remove stuff out of the image anymore; things just start to break. Dec 08 17:25:24 * mwester thinks openmoko needs "openmoko-minimal" and similar images. Dec 08 17:26:04 * * OE Bug 3438 has been created by matthias.kaehlcke(AT)gmail.com Dec 08 17:26:06 * * New package KedPM Dec 08 17:26:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3438 Dec 08 18:03:58 likewise, how do you see the rev # on bitbake? Dec 08 18:04:15 likewise, duh - svn co tells me at the conclusion (-; Dec 08 18:16:13 hey likewise - my "svn co" of bb show rev 986 as well, but version 1.8.9. Dec 08 18:27:34 HopsNBarley: I use "svn info" Dec 08 19:39:05 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1d393169... 10/ (1 classes/pkgconfig.bbclass): pkgconfig.bbclass: also catch ${STAGING_DIR_TARGET} Dec 08 19:39:09 running bitbake by itself (--help or --version) gives me bzr error also.. odd Dec 08 19:43:03 How else can I check which version I'm running? the last Changelog entry says 1.8.x, the previous one was 1.8.8... (using nslu2-linux.org's head) Dec 08 20:29:33 is monotone 0.37 compatible with head? (Fedora 8 dev box) Dec 08 20:29:48 yup Dec 08 20:31:42 VoodooZ, Fedora 8 have monotone and bitbake good for OE ! :) Dec 08 20:35:09 ok. thanks. Dec 08 20:36:09 I'm asking because setting up a new nslu2-linux repo gave me the 'mtn db migrate' before the repo is even setup... i only have a nslu2-linux.mtn at this point.. Dec 08 20:38:36 That's your repo -- you can migrate it without any problems. Dec 08 20:39:17 mwester: but how? mtn says it doesn't require any arguments... Dec 08 20:40:02 I tried it in the monotone folder too.. Dec 08 20:43:39 mtn --db=whereisyourdb migrate Dec 08 20:44:02 thanks. sorry for the newb questions.. Dec 08 20:44:12 mtn --db=whereisyourdb db migrate Dec 08 20:44:21 I think thats the right one from memory Dec 08 20:45:14 yep Dec 08 20:45:18 working.. thanks Dec 08 20:45:53 it's giving my old hdd quite a workout too! :) Dec 08 20:45:56 Are you guys having problems compiling gcc-cross? Dec 08 20:46:19 It's failing here, I think something related with fortran support Dec 08 20:48:48 sirfred: you probably need gfortran installed on your host Dec 08 20:50:19 XorA|gone: Hmm, I have the suspect that the bitbake compiled gfortran needs some library that's in the staging directory, and hence not found by some inner configure execution Dec 08 20:50:51 sirfred: Ive never got round to investigating deeply, but installing gfortran seems to get round it for now Dec 08 20:50:56 XorA|gone: I think it's something related with bug #3363, not the same error though Dec 08 20:51:10 XorA|gone: Thanks for the clue Dec 08 20:51:40 sirfred: BTW Ive sold my c860 so dont have an imageon anymore Dec 08 20:51:49 XorA|gone: Ooooh Dec 08 20:51:50 crap. I forgot how long those regenerate_caches were... Dec 08 20:52:08 XorA|gone: I didn't have time lately, too much work. Dec 08 20:52:28 sirfred: thats everyones life I think Dec 08 20:52:48 XorA|gone: The bad thing about this way of "working" is that everytime I try to make something is, in some way, like starting again Dec 08 20:53:07 Remember things, finding motivations to restart again,... Dec 08 20:53:20 A pitty Dec 08 20:53:23 brains need swapfiles :-) Dec 08 20:53:33 XorA|gone: Indeed. :) Dec 08 20:54:12 XorA|gone: IIRC, you're working for openmoko now, aren't you? Dec 08 20:54:36 sirfred: yes Dec 08 20:54:49 XorA|gone: How is it going? Happy? Dec 08 20:55:09 sirfred: so far Dec 08 20:55:25 sirfred: just wish the project didnt look like so much of a disaster from outside at times :-) Dec 08 20:55:34 XorA|gone: :) Dec 08 20:56:57 Android from google got my interest, and was thinking about trying to make it run in my zaurus, but I better wait for them to open the source (if they ever do it) Dec 08 21:06:04 XorA|gone: Installing gfortran in the host worked. Thanks! Dec 08 21:19:23 great. mtn regenerate_caches segfaulted! Dec 08 21:42:04 Sigh. Ok, does anyone know where "bzr" for python can be found? Apparently its now required by bitbake... Dec 08 21:42:58 * mwester gently removes his hard drive, tips it out over the trash can, and empty the latest bitbake update out. Dec 08 21:45:46 mwester: good to see I'm not the only one. :( Dec 08 21:46:49 actually, just did a yum search and there's a bzr package... Dec 08 21:47:18 I thought it was an internal module of some sort for sure.. Dec 08 21:58:56 bzr is bazaar-ng, a distributed version control system Dec 08 22:29:58 Yeah, I know what bazaar is, and I found the bzr package on Fedora. There's just no bzr package for python. Dec 09 00:31:06 hi Dec 09 00:31:19 I'm back and the build is finished Dec 09 00:31:40 the NOTE: QA checking staging Dec 09 00:31:50 appears only on first build Dec 09 00:32:03 then disappears Dec 09 00:32:14 http://www.pastebin.org/10928 Dec 09 00:32:31 second build without QA Dec 09 00:32:46 third build without QA (finished now) Dec 09 00:32:52 ?? Dec 09 00:33:17 something needing to be whitelisted ? Dec 09 00:36:38 logs of 3rd build: http://www.pastebin.org/10929 Dec 09 00:39:17 can you be more specific? Is there a problem? Dec 09 00:40:35 hi mwester Dec 09 00:40:46 nothing serious, annoying logs Dec 09 00:40:51 ERROR: QA issue: libstdc++.la failed sanity test (reference to workdir or installed) Dec 09 00:40:56 and so on Dec 09 00:41:07 I build from vacuum Dec 09 00:41:14 rm -rf /tmp Dec 09 00:41:43 ...usually overnight :-) Dec 09 00:44:09 sirfred: ping Dec 09 00:44:54 Ok. I suspect most folks have become accustomed to those messages, and ignore them. Dec 09 00:45:16 mwester: I'm sysadm..and read the logs Dec 09 00:46:06 mwester: now I'm puzzled by the glib 2.5 preferred thing Dec 09 00:46:14 *glibc Dec 09 00:46:31 The message where it complains that it can't find it, but then builds it anyway? Dec 09 00:46:39 yep Dec 09 00:47:21 hehe - that's my favorite. Its presence makes all the other warning messages so easy to ignore. Dec 09 00:47:25 mwester: I'd like to know whether anstrom-2008.1 with glibc-initial 2.6.1 has same prob Dec 09 00:47:40 mwester: I'm scared to test Dec 09 00:48:04 Oh I don't know - I'm crazy, but I'm not totally insane; I don't think I'll attempt to build that. Dec 09 00:48:17 mwester: I hacked this but...http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3428 Dec 09 00:48:30 mwester: I think sirfred wrote this Dec 09 00:50:08 ant reminds "koen says release on 20th december" Dec 09 00:50:38 ant thinks: too many bugs yet (today) Dec 09 00:52:02 btw: I'm not a developer, just try to help Dec 09 00:52:19 What is being released? Dec 09 00:52:29 angstrom 2007.1 Dec 09 00:52:46 Hmm... ok. Dec 09 00:54:11 mwester: I dunno which image is worth to test: mine, autobuilder, ... Dec 09 00:55:36 mwester: last time I tried to install wifi-radar on c7x0 discovered python was broken - that's for the feeds Dec 09 00:56:30 mwester: good news is python seems ok with the latest commits Dec 09 00:58:17 mwester: can fire a question about ATAG? Dec 09 00:58:57 Of course. But it may be that nobody here can answer it ;) Dec 09 00:59:17 mwester: I found your name in the arm lists (and RP) Dec 09 00:59:32 uh-oh... Dec 09 01:00:02 mwester: how is the actual status ? can the relocated atag be parsed by the kernel ? Dec 09 01:01:18 mwester: it's about the repartitioning taboo Dec 09 01:02:00 I'm not sure of the context of your question? Dec 09 01:02:41 mwester: will we see *soon* a working kexec (sharp-free) implementation for Zaurus? Dec 09 01:03:27 Ah - that I do not know. Others are leading the task of putting the patches to strip out the incorrect atags together. Dec 09 01:03:46 mwester: I see, hvontres for poodle Dec 09 01:03:50 There seems to be at least a couple of different ideas on how that should be done. Dec 09 01:04:15 mwester: yesterday hrw was proposing 2mb /boot Dec 09 01:05:36 mwester: I was ever thinking to try to patch u-boot myself (with old sash patches) Dec 09 01:05:51 mwester: but that's beyond my skills Dec 09 01:06:24 mwester: wayyy beyond :-7 Dec 09 01:23:02 mwester: thx Dec 09 01:23:05 'nite **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 09 02:59:56 2007