**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 23 02:59:56 2007 Dec 23 06:50:20 When I do bitbake ... -c compile I get a very cute ERROR: This autoconf log indicates errors, it looked at host includes. Rerun configure task after fixing this. Path was '/home/bitbaker/OE/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/sxemacs-22.1.7-r0/sxemacs' and I would be very grateful for any assistance on this. I have been looking at config.log but it is *huge* and I have no idea what to look for. Dec 23 07:43:05 * * OE Bug 3524 has been created by  Dec 23 07:43:06 * * emacs-20060801-r8-do_install Dec 23 07:43:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3524 Dec 23 08:26:04 * * OE Bug 3525 has been created by  Dec 23 08:26:07 * * dsniff-2.3-r1-do_compile Dec 23 08:26:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3525 Dec 23 08:41:04 * * OE Bug 3526 has been created by  Dec 23 08:41:07 * * emacs-20060801-r8-do_bootstrap Dec 23 08:41:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3526 Dec 23 08:58:53 schme: X11/Intrinsic.h is libxt iirc Dec 23 08:58:59 good morning Dec 23 09:29:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1cc47b41... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Dec 23 09:29:51 emacs: attemp to unbreak: Dec 23 09:29:51 * qemu-arm -> qemu-${TARGET_ARCH} Dec 23 09:29:51 * PV = 20060801 -> 1:22.0.50+cvs20060801 Dec 23 09:29:51 fails in do_install now, #3524 Dec 23 09:30:00 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd8bfa63a... 10/ (1 packages/emacs/emacs_cvs.bb): emacs: fix packaging typo (+= vs +=) Dec 23 09:30:05 * * OE Bug 3526 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Dec 23 09:30:07 * *  emacs-20060801-r8-do_bootstrap Dec 23 09:30:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3526 Dec 23 09:42:00 ping hrw|gone Dec 23 09:47:31 what command should I issue to trigger rebuilding rootfs Dec 23 09:51:39 never mind. that's a stupid question Dec 23 10:32:18 Can anybody look at this 'mtn update' error and tell me how to fix it? http://pastebin.ca/829656 . Unfortunately, I have no experience with MTN :( Dec 23 11:25:06 zap: mtn revert packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.18.bb Dec 23 11:26:08 zap: you have a local modification of xserver-common_1.18.bb and somebody pushed his mod to .dev in the meantime Dec 23 11:27:05 zap: or you can try to solve the conflict by manually merge the two versions Dec 23 11:39:03 xjqian: thank you, how do I merge it? I think I want that change to stay there. Dec 23 11:39:15 RP: I've got tasks-depends.dot and the build halted with "the" bug Dec 23 11:57:43 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * re49af3b0... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): apex-env: Find partition named 'apex' for environment link. Dec 23 11:57:48 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * ra9f72374... 10/ (1 packages/meta/unslung-binary-kernel-packages.bb): unslung-binary-kernel-packages: Drop never-used recipe. Dec 23 11:57:52 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rda902dcd... 10/ (1 packages/tzdata/tzdata_2007e.bb): tzdata: Added three unique Australian timezones which were not covered by any other cities already in the main package. Dec 23 12:09:15 guys Dec 23 12:09:44 which off-the-shelf wireless router/accesspoint should I buy if I want to fiddle with openembedded? Dec 23 12:10:08 * rwhitby refrains from pointing oxo to openwrt instead ;-) Dec 23 12:10:21 I use openembedded on the Freecom FSG-3. Dec 23 12:10:34 * oxo has rather fallen in love with OE Dec 23 12:10:53 I'm looking for a relative cheap, feature-rich, OE-doable AP Dec 23 12:11:48 I'd say look in toh.openwrt.org, then cross-reference that against the machines directory in OE, and see what is in common. Dec 23 12:11:57 k, tnx Dec 23 12:12:05 that fsg looks good Dec 23 12:12:14 also you could look at asus500g.info Dec 23 12:12:17 Hello. Is there anyone here hwo succeded using OE on coldfire ? Dec 23 12:12:25 and note that just recently pfalcon has worked out how to use OE to build packages that run on openwrt ;-) Dec 23 12:12:45 sorry, wl500g.info Dec 23 12:13:10 zap: yeah, I ran Oleg's firmware for a number of years on a wl500gx. Dec 23 12:13:30 the wl500g is indeed one of the devices I'm looking into Dec 23 12:13:39 oxo: do you want to fiddle with kernel/rootfs, or just fiddle with additional packages? Dec 23 12:14:09 OE can also build packages for the distro at wl500g.info, if you have the correct external toolchain installed. Dec 23 12:14:32 well, I'm not sure yet, but being able to 'do' the root as well leaves more options open Dec 23 12:15:22 is the wireless part of it your main interest, or is it intended to be a general purpose box which happens to have a wireless interface on it? Dec 23 12:15:31 it should have wireless Dec 23 12:16:02 yes, but is that what you want to fiddle with? Dec 23 12:16:08 I use a NSLU2 for several things now, but it lacks wireless. I recently got a laptop, so I'm looking for a replacement Dec 23 12:16:25 e.g. openwrt tracks the latest madwifi releases closely, whereas OE is nowhere near the bleeding edge on that stuff. Dec 23 12:16:39 oxo: why not just add a usb wifi dongle to the nslu2? Dec 23 12:16:42 ehm, I've not decided on that one yet, but I like to be able to fiddle with everything (occasionally breaking stuff..) Dec 23 12:17:18 that's one possibility, tnx Dec 23 12:17:43 which firmware are you running on the slug? Dec 23 12:17:53 `angstrom-derived custom OE' Dec 23 12:18:26 problem with my slug is that it has only one ethernet port. I use it for routing and the usb<->ethernet thingy lacks decent speed Dec 23 12:18:34 nod Dec 23 12:18:46 I hoped a `real' accesspoint/router (with multiple ports) should do that trick as well Dec 23 12:19:23 I use a Freecom DataTank at the moment for the home gateway/router/ap device. Dec 23 12:19:37 (Freecom send me stuff for free) Dec 23 12:19:42 hehe Dec 23 12:20:53 well, I think I know enough for know, I'll ponder during christmas dinners at family about it ;-) Dec 23 12:20:57 tnx! Dec 23 12:21:01 oxo: See http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/FSG3-Hacking Dec 23 12:21:28 I took the hard disk out of the fsg-3, and added an internal usb hub with flash disks and bluetooth. Dec 23 12:21:36 * CoreDump got a nice little buffalo router running dd-wrt Dec 23 12:21:52 if you go for the fsg3, replace the internal wifi card with an atheros card. Dec 23 12:22:27 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r192c54c4... 10/ (1 contrib/angstrom/build-release.sh): Dec 23 12:22:27 contrib/angstrom/build-release.sh: Add h5000. Dec 23 12:22:27 * Now that there're people who are willing to test it. Dec 23 12:22:28 night all Dec 23 12:22:37 cya rwhitby Dec 23 12:22:37 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rec600103... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): nas-server: New task, meta-package, and image for creating a network attached storage server. Dec 23 12:59:05 * * OE Bug 3527 has been created by  Dec 23 12:59:07 * * webkit-gtk-0.1+svnr28656-r4-do_configure Dec 23 12:59:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3527 Dec 23 14:00:21 morning folks Dec 23 14:00:27 rwhitby: (nas-server) good! Dec 23 14:00:34 we need more of these tasks Dec 23 14:00:50 "product"oriented Dec 23 14:20:37 anyone feels responsible for gammU? Dec 23 14:20:40 it doesn't build Dec 23 14:20:50 some strange cmake-related error here Dec 23 14:25:05 looks like monotone.oe.org is down again Dec 23 14:31:17 hmm really? looks good from here Dec 23 14:35:30 Merry Christmas all, time for /me to hit the road Dec 23 14:44:26 re Dec 23 14:46:01 Ok.. I asked this earlier today but the channel seems more active now. I have written a lil' recipe but when I try to compile I get ERROR: This autoconf log indicates errors, it looked at host includes. Could anyone clue me in on where to start trying to sort this out? Dec 23 14:46:51 schme: it's just a guess, but it would seem that autoconf looks in other places than staging Dec 23 14:48:06 Jin^eLD: That is my thinking too. But.. config.log is 5MB huge and I have *no idea* what to even start looking for :) Dec 23 14:49:51 schme: you could try and look at configure.ac Dec 23 14:49:59 see what it does Dec 23 14:50:20 Thx! Dec 23 14:50:32 the creator of zaurus_make_installkit should be shot Dec 23 14:50:39 :) Dec 23 14:54:24 Ugh.. Dec 23 14:54:30 I'll just do this some other day >< Dec 23 14:55:05 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r4a88a5ff... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): zaurus-updater: Fix spitz kernel install, display PR to the user & beautify HDD installer messages Dec 23 14:57:51 CoreDump: may I annoy you with #3521 today? ;) Dec 23 14:58:38 I'll look at it later Dec 23 14:58:46 :> Dec 23 15:01:00 schme, search config.log for /usr/include and usr/local/include Dec 23 15:03:30 Crofton|home: Why thank you. It seems configure has been handed a -I/usr/include and -I/usr/local/include and it has a big CROSS COMPILE Badness sign flashing there too. :) Dec 23 15:03:51 :) Dec 23 15:03:54 glad to help Dec 23 15:04:01 now I have to leave for the horrordays Dec 23 15:04:22 hehe Dec 23 15:04:34 Jin^eLD, do you work on mediatomb? Dec 23 15:05:33 Crofton|home: Have a good horrorday. Dec 23 15:05:38 thanks :) Dec 23 15:05:40 yes Dec 23 15:05:45 cool Dec 23 15:05:51 got a UPnP device? :) Dec 23 15:05:55 or a PS3 for christmas? Dec 23 15:05:56 ;) Dec 23 15:05:57 I actually ran a quick check of it with my OS3 Dec 23 15:06:02 er PS3 Dec 23 15:06:11 which I use only for research purposes of course Dec 23 15:06:15 of course ;) Dec 23 15:06:16 hehe Dec 23 15:06:32 I need to get up the balls to claim it as a business expense .... Dec 23 15:06:38 anyway, gotta run Dec 23 15:06:43 mediatomb looks neat Dec 23 15:06:56 thx, but you will need to add some custom settings to the configuration to account for PS3 weirdness Dec 23 15:07:02 otherwise it works well with the PS3 Dec 23 15:56:03 cool, a nas task.. Dec 23 16:33:25 anyone here know anything about "settings-deamon"? Dec 23 16:34:16 not me Dec 23 16:43:56 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1a06a6b3... 10/ (1 packages/efl1/evas.inc packages/efl1/evas_cvs.bb): evas cvs add RRECOMMENDS to the usually used set of engines and loaders Dec 23 16:44:04 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r6f1c8e9f... 10/ (1 packages/efl1/etk_cvs.bb): etk cvs RRECOMMMEND its engines Dec 23 16:44:11 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r647f91b9... 10/ (1 packages/efl1/ewl_cvs.bb): ewl cvs RRECOMMENDS its engines Dec 23 16:44:20 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd750bdb7... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): epdf cvs update fix-plugin-patch-check Dec 23 16:44:24 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0ad3682d... 10/ (1 packages/zaurus-updater/zaurus-updater.bb): zaurus-updater: use sed -i instead of shuffling files around Dec 23 16:44:32 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r8d612652... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): zaurusd: Make hinge scripts independent from bl. Dec 23 16:47:54 -i isn't even in my sed man-page... Dec 23 16:48:12 -i is a gnu sed extension. Dec 23 16:48:43 "in place" Dec 23 16:49:01 ahh, thanks Dec 23 16:49:28 Basically it makes sed work more like ed. Dec 23 16:50:03 ? CoreDump doesn't use a gnu-capable system? Dec 23 16:50:50 of course Dec 23 16:51:00 but "man sed" doesn't show it Dec 23 16:51:05 * * OE Bug 3501 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Dec 23 16:51:07 * *  2007.11R1x won't boot on Spitz Dec 23 16:51:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3501 Dec 23 16:51:39 so I had every excuse for not using it ;) Dec 23 16:53:07 Is this where I go on my daily "don't use gnu extensions" rant? Dec 23 16:56:49 something in my broken sato image makes the display blank (and unblank on screen-tap) but I'll be dammed if I know what is doing it :\ Dec 23 17:01:54 I get -ltermcap missing here with my recipe.. Is there any specific depend I should add? Dec 23 17:05:03 Just a guess, but are you already depending on termcap? Dec 23 17:05:30 johnx: I am, yes. Dec 23 17:05:43 johnx: There is no libtermcap in staging dir. Dec 23 17:06:44 sorry, that's about the end of my ideas Dec 23 17:07:30 thanks :) Dec 23 17:09:22 schme: did you want the .so or the .a? Dec 23 17:10:20 mwester: that is a very good question. ld says -ltermcap is not working. Dec 23 17:12:23 Ah, that's the .a file then, I think. Dec 23 17:12:44 tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/libtermcap.a Dec 23 17:13:09 Probably installed there by: tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ncurses-5.4-r10/install/ncurses-dev/usr/lib/libtermcap.a Dec 23 17:13:41 So either a dependency on ncurses or on ncurses-dev should do the trick. Dec 23 17:13:55 I did a find in staging and it was not there.. Trying a depend on ncurses right now, thanks :) Dec 23 17:15:41 Seems to be working. Dec 23 17:27:04 * * OE Bug 3528 has been created by skliarie(AT)gmail.com Dec 23 17:27:06 * * Collie should use 64MB of memory Dec 23 17:27:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3528 Dec 23 17:52:27 morning all Dec 23 17:53:24 Is 'INHERIT = "package_tar"' deprecated ? With this setting a get 'Could not inherit Dec 23 17:53:29 file classes/rootfs_tar.bbclass while parsing' error Dec 23 17:55:14 Hi guys. I'm just getting started with OE, and I'm confused trying to build the dreambox image. It works fine if I just build using the default .bb file, but if I subsequently edit the .bb file to reflect some changes I want, bitbake seems to ignore these changes, and assumes that the sources are already built. The only way I can get it to rebuild my changed package is by deleting the tmp/work/package dir, and removing the relev Dec 23 17:55:56 beadyallen: you can 'bitbake -c rebuild your_package' as well Dec 23 17:57:49 beadyallen: if you change a .bb (for example to fix it), you can increment the PR number, so that bitbake will automatically (re)build it Dec 23 17:58:10 Thanks, I'll give it a try. So should I do that when I want to rebuild the whole flash image? It seems a bit of a pain to have to remember to manually rebuild all changed packages. I'd have thought the build system should take care of this. Maybe I'm wrong. Dec 23 17:58:18 Sorrym whats the PR number? Dec 23 17:58:34 beadyallen: but PR is intended to be incrementd by one in the oe repository, so ... Dec 23 17:59:10 beadyallen: bitbake usually take changes into account Dec 23 17:59:13 Basically all I'm trying to do is change the kernel .config file to build a few extra features as modules Dec 23 17:59:48 So I've changed the .bb file for the kernel to not download the web based .config, but instead to use my local file. Dec 23 18:00:02 with 'bitbake -c rebuild the_kernel' and then 'bitbake your_image' it should be ok Dec 23 18:00:52 Okay, thanks cyrilRomain. I was just surprised it didn't 'just work' I'll try it now and get back to you. Dec 23 18:01:48 beadyallen: ah, and PR is the release number of the package file Dec 23 18:02:03 beadyallen: see here for more info about bitbake variables: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Bbfile Dec 23 18:09:14 beadyallen: I suspect you changed the .bb once (using e.g. 'file://yourconffile.'), but if then you makes changes on that file but the .bb is the same, bitbake cannot guess you changed yourconffile Dec 23 18:10:30 hence the need to tell bitbake to rebuild the kernel Dec 23 18:10:38 I'm making a clisp recipe and I have just run into ./configure saying --build=.. is not a valid argument. Is there some good workaround for things like this? Dec 23 18:11:57 schme: does clisp use autotools ? Dec 23 18:12:30 cyrilRomain: Beats me.. The docs I'm reading says that if there is a configure it is most likely autotools :) Dec 23 18:12:55 schme: so did you inherit autotools in your .bb ? Dec 23 18:12:59 I guess I should check up on things. I'm just too confused here now. Was hacking one recipe all night and now on to another one. Dec 23 18:13:20 cyrilRomain: I did yes. But the clisp configure does not accept the options passed to it :) Dec 23 18:13:42 cyrilRomain: No, I kept changing the .bb file. Still, it seems to work if I do bitbake -c then bitbake full-image. So it 'should' detect changed files properly? Dec 23 18:15:42 I could easily bypass it and do my own ./configure --with-weird-options but will the compile task then know what gcc to use and where to look for includes? Dec 23 18:15:49 beadyallen: bitbake detect .bb content changes, but if you just 'touch your.bb', I'm not sure it will rebuild the kernel because the content of the .bb is the smae Dec 23 18:16:12 schme: so you have to give those options by hand Dec 23 18:17:17 schme: look at other package (it is instructive) Dec 23 18:18:16 cyrilRomain: I have been looking at other packages. :) I was merely wondering if I can skip all the --build --host --target and what not to ./configue and the compile task still would set it up right. Dec 23 18:18:28 schme: EXTRA_OECONF = "--build=${YOUVAR}" is probably what you are looking for Dec 23 18:19:34 cyrilRomain: No. the clisp ./configure does not take a --build argument at all. I want to remove it. That and --host + --target. Dec 23 18:19:44 schme: 'inherit autotools' should be enough (but sometimes not enough :) Dec 23 18:20:30 cyrilRomain: It's not. inherit autotools passes invalid arguments to configure. I want to remove some of those arguments. Dec 23 18:21:55 I think I'll have to skip the autotools and go with oe_runmake. Dec 23 18:22:18 schme: hmm you can override the do_configure() but I think the problem should be solved another way Dec 23 18:22:25 I would say clisp doesn't use autotools. they wrote their own configure script. Dec 23 18:22:43 thesing: Kk. I'll use oe_runmake then. Dec 23 18:22:46 Seems easy enough. Dec 23 19:32:26 morning Dec 23 19:38:16 hi hrw Dec 23 19:38:53 ho Dec 23 19:39:28 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r7c0754d0... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): xscreensaver: Fix QA issue in do_configure Dec 23 19:40:25 hrw: rootfs_tar.bbclass has apparently been removed for some reason. I think the '# INHERIT = "package_tar"' line in local.conf.sample should be removed, don't you think ? Dec 23 19:40:42 hrw: or s/package_tar/package_deb/ even Dec 23 19:41:39 good point Dec 23 19:42:23 but... Dec 23 19:42:24 20:42 hrw@home:classes$ ls package_* Dec 23 19:42:24 package_deb.bbclass package_ipk.bbclass package_rpm.bbclass package_tar.bbclass Dec 23 19:42:33 oh ! Dec 23 19:43:02 there was no rootfs_tar or rootfs_rpm Dec 23 19:43:11 hmm Dec 23 19:44:02 when I set 'INHERIT = "package_tar"' in local.conf, I get the following error Dec 23 19:44:20 package_tar and package_rpm are not maintained Dec 23 19:44:47 "ERROR: Could not inherit file classes/rootfs_tar.bbclass while parsing" Dec 23 19:45:43 so I guess it is related but I don't know where exactly Dec 23 19:46:07 as I said package_tar and package_rpm are not maintained Dec 23 19:46:11 so patches welcome Dec 23 19:46:18 :) Dec 23 19:47:15 * cyrilRomain need more time to debug that Dec 23 19:57:58 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2872c159... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gammu: updated to 1.17.0 Dec 23 19:58:04 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd1ed8f7e... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): angstrom 2007: bump gammu to 1.17.0 and cmake-native to 2.4.7 (gammu req it at least 2.4.2) Dec 23 19:58:08 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6b20f0dd... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): python-gammu: updated to 0.24 Dec 23 19:58:13 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2e363cde... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): angstrom 2007: update python-gammu to 0.24 Dec 23 20:04:08 could anyone try building prboom and see if it fails to see the SDL includes? Dec 23 20:11:05 * * OE Bug 3131 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Dec 23 20:11:07 * *  zaurusd should rdepend on bl Dec 23 20:11:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3131 Dec 23 20:20:14 Jin^eLD: the attachment of bug 3521 does not download correctly Dec 23 20:21:06 Hmm. I'm a little lost. oe.info lists WRAP hardware support, but I wonder what distro to use for a WRAP board... Dec 23 20:22:32 angstrom_200{7,8}.1 both fail to build... the former due to requesting a non-existing fakeroot tarball from the Debian FTP mirror, and the latter due to some gcc-internal-function-something-screwup. Dec 23 20:23:09 CoreDump: can I up it somewhere? Dec 23 20:23:39 email to oe (AT) hentges (dot) net Dec 23 20:24:39 ok, its out Dec 23 20:40:31 still not here Dec 23 20:40:38 doh Dec 23 20:41:02 http://www.deadlock.dhs.org/jin/fmtools.tar.gz Dec 23 21:00:16 CoreDump: thanks Dec 23 21:00:29 np Dec 23 21:02:46 CoreDump: prboom failed to find SDL.h here Dec 23 21:02:59 cyril_: thanks for trying Dec 23 21:03:08 so it isn't my system Dec 23 21:06:10 hmm if only OE could be a purely functional build system, there would be less such system or oe 'state' problems .. Dec 23 21:14:08 CoreDump: FYI, I only tested prboom_2.2.6.bb Dec 23 21:14:38 that's ok, the other one isn't stable ;) Dec 23 21:15:10 l8r everyone Dec 23 21:22:32 bye Dec 23 21:24:59 CoreDump: prboom looks to the STAGING_DIR_NATIVE but prboom does not depend on libsdl-native Dec 23 21:26:20 right, removing that results in the headers being found Dec 23 21:26:31 then do_compile breaks with nasty errors Dec 23 21:28:48 hey Dec 23 21:29:05 hey zecke Dec 23 21:29:08 hi zecke Dec 23 21:29:16 imagine a qt4/ directory would pop-up. Would anyone mind? Dec 23 21:29:20 prboom-2.4.7 appears to compile w/ a minor QA issue Dec 23 21:31:04 * * OE Bug 3521 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Dec 23 21:31:07 * *  request to add fmtools package Dec 23 21:31:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3521 Dec 23 21:31:41 03jin 07org.oe.dev * r9ffdda8e... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): fmtools: Add fmtools package, courtesy of Jin^eLD Dec 23 21:32:43 zecke: I wouldn't mind Dec 23 21:52:38 \ Dec 23 22:10:13 what is channel for ? Dec 23 22:10:25 this channel Dec 23 22:14:05 * * OE Bug 3501 has been REOPENED by walts(AT)gate.net Dec 23 22:14:07 * *  2007.11R1x won't boot on Spitz Dec 23 22:14:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3501 Dec 23 22:17:28 gilligan_: hi Dec 23 22:17:46 zecke, du kommst auch zur CCC ? Dec 23 22:18:07 zecke, du kennst tronical (simon) von trolltech oder? Dec 23 22:18:47 gilligan_: hehe, yes on both Dec 23 22:19:09 zecke, we're old friends.. he visited me yesterday Dec 23 22:19:39 zecke, so at some point we got to talking about OE and the mentioned that someone he knew from OE would be going to CCC as well.. :] Dec 23 22:20:17 gilligan_: hehe, the world is too small. Some of the OpenMoko Europe folks will be at the CCC as well Dec 23 22:20:36 gilligan_: I'm currently in essen at my grandparents and will return to Berlin in time :) Dec 23 22:20:37 gilligan_, i see Dec 23 22:21:16 zecke, I assume you have been to the CCC before? As for myself and tronical we both haven't Dec 23 22:22:12 gilligan_: you are going to enjoy it. I look forward for electronic music/art, club mate and hacking :) Dec 23 22:22:27 gilligan_: when are you going to arrive? Dec 23 22:23:10 zecke, i'll arrive at tegel airport around 9:30am or so on the 27th .. then i'll probably first check in at the hotel (diefabrik.com) and then head to the CCC Dec 23 22:23:37 zecke, tronical travles by train and will thus arrive later in the afternoon Dec 23 22:25:08 gilligan_: ah, you are staying really close to the bugwerft and ellen... Dec 23 22:26:17 zecke, tbh I have no idea where what is in Berlin :) i'll just try to travel according to the info given on the hotel page and the CCC page :) Dec 23 22:26:45 cool! :) Dec 23 22:29:56 zecke, all in all i am very much looking forward to it though.. I will meet with some other friends from .dk , uk and even .jp and we're staying together in a 4 bed room at that diefabrik hotel.. so that'll be a lot of fun Dec 23 22:31:05 zecke, do you think we'll run into each other at CCC somehow (don't know if you've met simon before in person?) or should we swap cell phone numbers or something ? Dec 23 22:32:55 zecke, the more i browse around on the 24c3 wiki the more I wonder why the hell I didn't attend in previous years :) Dec 23 22:33:13 gilligan_: I spent 10 days with him in india :) Dec 23 22:33:28 gilligan_: and I will follow the "Oh my god an iPhone"-sound Dec 23 22:34:03 zecke, hahahaha Dec 23 22:34:05 :D Dec 23 22:34:25 gilligan_: did you play with it? Dec 23 22:34:40 zecke, hm..no..darn.. I forgot Dec 23 22:35:02 zecke, he checked it alot though.. probably sms'ing with Kavindra all the time..dunno :)) Dec 23 22:35:07 hehe Dec 23 22:35:16 haha Dec 23 22:36:17 zecke, currently i am basically at the other end of the spectrum .. i bought some cheap ass cell phone from tschibo (prepaid) just the other day... Dec 23 22:37:11 ouch it starts on the 27th already... :} Dec 23 22:37:35 "10.00-17.00 Almost never-ending breakfast" perfect Dec 23 22:37:38 haha.. Dec 23 22:37:43 i see you are well prepared :) Dec 23 22:38:36 tmbinc: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2007/Fahrplan/events/2279.en.html wicked! Dec 23 22:39:14 he Dec 23 22:39:24 tmbinc: :) Dec 23 22:39:41 so, nice, you will be there too? Dec 23 22:40:05 sure, and I will continue with my running-gag and try to merge the dreambox branch :) Dec 23 22:40:10 ha Dec 23 22:40:14 there will be a nice PSP talk as well Dec 23 22:40:17 last week i've tried Dec 23 22:40:19 from a friend of mine Dec 23 22:40:26 gilligan_: yeah unfortunately at the last day, but hey, that's life :) Dec 23 22:40:40 tmbinc, you won't be around then? Dec 23 22:40:45 somehow everybody knows tyranid :) Dec 23 22:40:49 sure i will Dec 23 22:40:55 hehe Dec 23 22:40:58 tmbinc: 1.) use the right tool: http://repo.or.cz/w/org.openembedded.dev.git?a=shortlog;h=org.openembedded.dreambox :) Dec 23 22:41:11 tmbinc, i'm going to CCC together with tyranid Dec 23 22:41:17 zecke: the merge was ok. but after that, gcc didn't compile anymore Dec 23 22:41:38 zecke: then i thought "hey, a dreambox branch sucks anyway, so let's try to port my stuff to .dev" Dec 23 22:41:59 tmbinc, your nick sounds so very familiar.. Dec 23 22:42:03 well, a day later i fixed the remaining issues in the old dreambox branch, backported a few things, and i was happy again (without any merging ;) Dec 23 22:42:19 gilligan_: so i'm really looking forward to see his talk Dec 23 22:42:51 tmbinc, includes some very interesting/new revelations :) Dec 23 22:43:07 hah! Dec 23 22:43:11 speaking of the devil Dec 23 22:44:40 tmbinc: so you are happy with your branch? Dec 23 22:44:59 zecke: no i'm not Dec 23 22:45:07 but i'm not happy with .dev too ;) Dec 23 22:45:12 tmbinc, oooh..now I see.. i "know" you from gcdev Dec 23 22:45:20 zecke: it didn't compiled for mipsel out of the box Dec 23 22:45:26 probably my fault, though ;) Dec 23 22:45:41 but if there is a single thing i hate, then it is analyzing why gcc (or worse: glibc) doesn't compile Dec 23 22:45:57 ;] Dec 23 22:53:31 hey zecke Dec 23 22:53:45 Dodji: how are you? happy seasons! Dec 23 22:53:55 zecke, fine thanks ! same to you ! Dec 23 22:54:03 I think I am going to hang on this channel for now :-) Dec 23 22:55:08 zecke, how are things, btw ? Dec 23 22:57:38 Dodji: doing fine, I quit my job at GMIT and feeling great :) Dec 23 22:57:52 zecke, ah, so now, you are 100% TT ? Dec 23 22:58:58 full grown troll Dec 23 22:59:46 zecke, gilligan_: heading off to get some sleep. lots of family business tomorrow and no (or little) internet access. see you and good night! Dec 23 23:00:25 see you! Dec 23 23:15:28 zecke, being focused helps a lot. That's cool. Dec 23 23:17:04 * * OE Bug 3529 has been created by andrea.adami(AT)gmail.com Dec 23 23:17:06 * * gpsd : missing python module curses.ascii Dec 23 23:17:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3529 Dec 23 23:17:17 * * OE Bug 3530 has been created by andrea.adami(AT)gmail.com Dec 23 23:17:19 * * ipkg - 0.99.163-r6 installs with wrong permissions (mask) Dec 23 23:17:21 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3530 Dec 23 23:18:04 * * OE Bug 3531 has been created by andrea.adami(AT)gmail.com Dec 23 23:18:06 * * roadmap-gtk2 - 1.0.12+cvs20071223-r1 doesn' t install binaries Dec 23 23:18:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3531 Dec 23 23:20:29 Dodji: no idea, leaving GMIT means I'm not working for TT anymore (well from the 1st of february) Dec 23 23:20:43 zecke, ah ! Dec 23 23:20:43 Dodji: but allowing to focus is something that helps and want atm Dec 23 23:20:58 Dodji: I will probably end up there, but I don't know yet Dec 23 23:20:59 zecke, so back to school full time ? Dec 23 23:22:28 Dodji: no idea, my #1 plan is to find a rich wife Dec 23 23:22:40 zecke, hehe :-) Dec 23 23:24:00 zecke, good thing I got to Berlin before you quit :) Dec 23 23:24:44 we need to add fosdem 2008 to http://www.openembedded.org/events Dec 23 23:24:52 but I cannot edit the page Dec 23 23:25:12 Crofton: nah, I 'love' my boss and I think we can use the office any time we want :) Dec 23 23:25:23 cool Dec 23 23:25:33 always good to maintain good relations Dec 23 23:26:03 things look good for me to go to FOSDEM again ... Dec 23 23:27:05 * * OE Bug 3532 has been created by andrea.adami(AT)gmail.com Dec 23 23:27:07 * * gpe-conf serial (gpe-conf - 0.2.6-r1) writes own /etc/gpsd .conf Dec 23 23:27:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3532 Dec 23 23:29:55 ibot, seen koen Dec 23 23:29:56 koen was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 10d 13h 23m 33s ago, saying: 'I forgot to commit that portion yesterday'. Dec 23 23:30:55 the beer event has moved Dec 23 23:33:31 Dodji: and the other good thing is I know what to focus on. This is Linux and OE Dec 23 23:37:24 zecke, good news :-) Dec 23 23:37:39 zecke, what do you mean by "Linux" ? I mean that can be rather large :-) Dec 23 23:38:37 Dodji: kernel, toolchain, what ever provides pain Dec 23 23:40:15 zecke, interesting :-) Dec 23 23:43:54 zecke, I must admit I find the kernel interesting as well. Dec 23 23:44:04 * * OE Bug 3530 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by andrea.adami(AT)gmail.com Dec 23 23:44:06 * *  ipkg - 0.99.163-r6 installs with wrong permissions (mask) Dec 23 23:44:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3530 Dec 23 23:44:16 * * OE Bug 3533 has been created by  Dec 23 23:44:18 * * mk-layout-manager' s entry not available in matchbox start menu Dec 23 23:44:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3533 Dec 23 23:45:47 Dodji: with breaking the kernel you can break so many things :) Dec 23 23:46:40 oh yes...the "fun" of FS corruption... Dec 23 23:46:54 :-) Dec 23 23:47:17 CoreDump: hehe, specially if you only changed some bits of the memory management :) Dec 23 23:47:27 * CoreDump lost a whooping 250GB to an XFS corruption bug in a stable release... Dec 23 23:48:45 Dodji: oh the 2nd best thing is: In the case that I don't find a rich wife, I will pester google and such companies :) Dec 23 23:49:50 zecke, google ? so you would have to relocate then ;-) Dec 23 23:50:24 Dodji: no way, they should just give me money :) Dec 23 23:50:32 zecke, haha Dec 23 23:50:46 Dodji: is that a bad plan? Dec 23 23:51:27 zecke, hehe, not necessarily :-) Dec 23 23:51:59 haha qt_isEvilFsTypeName Dec 23 23:56:44 okay folks, good night. Dec 24 00:12:16 So.. Who has the ready made clisp recipe that I need now that I have officially given up on getting clisp to cross compile? Dec 24 00:12:33 CoreDump: re hinge scripts - what package includes the 'bl' binary? Dec 24 00:12:53 "bl" and gpe-conf Dec 24 00:13:23 is the c700 screen meant to go blank when you shut it, and is it meant to automatically come back on when you open it, and what program/script should be doing that in Angstrom? Dec 24 00:13:46 rwhitby: both to yes, and responsible is /etc/zaurusd/hinge* Dec 24 00:14:05 update zaurusd to pull in the changes form today and it'll work Dec 24 00:14:26 even in those "mini" images... Dec 24 00:15:38 thx Dec 24 00:16:27 hmm - should /etc/resolv.conf default to "nameserver 192.168.0.200" for devices where the basic networking is through usb? Dec 24 00:17:27 (so that ipkg update works out of the box with an appropriate usb host machine) Dec 24 00:27:16 since when do normal desktop PCs run a DNS? ;) Dec 24 01:32:21 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r18890ff5... 10/ (1 packages/images/nas-server-image.bb): nas-server-image: Made it honour machine features properly. Dec 24 01:32:26 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r74c545ed... 10/ (1 packages/images/base-image.bb): image-base: Removed task-distro-base and task-machine-base, and added yet-to-be-approved temporary DISTRO_FEED_CONFIGS variable. Dec 24 01:33:05 CoreDump: if you set up a desktop to enable networking through it from an attached PDA, then you'd have DNS running on it. Dec 24 01:42:24 "through" the PDA Dec 24 01:42:29 ? Dec 24 01:43:10 you will be delighted to find all NAT, MASQ and bridging kernel modules to be missing... Dec 24 01:57:29 any o-hand people? Dec 24 02:00:02 o-hand dev: shouldn't patches in zaurusd sumitted to upstream (i.e. o-hand)? Dec 24 02:00:55 o-hand dev: esp. the default asound.state patches for cx000 and tosa Dec 24 02:03:27 CoreDump: not through the PDA, through the linux desktop it's connected to and getting access to the internet through. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 24 02:59:56 2007