**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 31 02:59:56 2007 Dec 31 07:59:07 http://pastebin.ca/838804 :S Dec 31 08:02:52 NineX: looks like 'vala-native' might have a problem Dec 31 08:22:33 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r29321c56... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux-rp: fix hostap patch Dec 31 08:36:19 hrw|gone: morinig :) Dec 31 08:54:02 RP: it looks like mysql and mysql-native don't play well with BITBAKE-THREADS Dec 31 09:11:13 morning Dec 31 09:12:49 hrw: ave Dec 31 09:24:09 hrw: in which dir should I issue "make menuconfig" Dec 31 09:24:32 xjqian: tmp/work/tosa*/linux-rp-2.6.23-r19/linux-2.6.23/ Dec 31 09:24:47 xjqian: and it will be "ARCH=arm make menuconfig" Dec 31 09:24:53 I got: scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:32:20: curses.h: No such file or directory Dec 31 09:25:15 should I put it in a script with correct ${STAGING_INCDIR} Dec 31 09:26:02 xjqian: you need ncurses-devel on host Dec 31 09:26:32 xjqian: or you could run bitbake -c menuconfig linux-rp-2.6.23 and then copy .config over to defconfig-tosa Dec 31 09:26:54 thanks, I see Dec 31 09:35:49 morning all Dec 31 09:38:02 hi cyrilRomain Dec 31 09:38:24 hey hrw Dec 31 10:01:40 hrw: I didn't find any option to modularize WM9712 Dec 31 10:02:35 is there a reason for minimal-image for not having ${ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL} in IMAGE_INSTALL ? Dec 31 10:02:44 ask Dirk Opfer does is it at all possible Dec 31 10:02:49 cyrilRomain: its add to size Dec 31 10:03:20 hrw: yes. Ok so it is intended to keep it _really_ minimal !) Dec 31 10:04:22 * cyrilRomain will use IMAGE_INSTALL += then for its custom bit-less-minimal-image Dec 31 10:04:42 minimal image should boot and offer some kind of login in possibility Dec 31 10:04:55 morning all Dec 31 10:05:03 hi RP Dec 31 10:05:07 hi RP Dec 31 10:05:35 RP: I found some space gain in kernel Dec 31 10:05:50 hrw: and grub in my case :) Dec 31 10:05:53 hrw: ah, where? Dec 31 10:06:11 RP: whole ATA -> modules, most of cpufreq -> modules Dec 31 10:06:26 RP: we have pcmcia in modules so no need to keep ata in kernel Dec 31 10:06:40 -rwxr-xr-x 1 hrw hrw 1273860 gru 31 11:04 arch/arm/boot/zImage Dec 31 10:06:44 hrw: You mean IDE or ATA? Dec 31 10:06:47 thats 2.6.24-rc6 for c7x0 Dec 31 10:06:57 RP: ide-cs ide-disk Dec 31 10:06:58 * RP was hoping to keep pcmcia built in :/ Dec 31 10:07:59 I plan to switch to libata and pata_pcmcia Dec 31 10:08:41 hrw: It'd be interesting to see how they work Dec 31 10:08:42 ide-cs is legacy for quite long time Dec 31 10:12:38 hrw: agreed Dec 31 10:13:15 flashing 2.6.24-rc6 on c7x0 now Dec 31 10:14:43 heh.. for angstrom udev we need to create deprecated ssyfs entries Dec 31 10:19:26 hrw: I found the WM9712 opion for tosa Dec 31 10:19:39 hrw: making it modular and building now Dec 31 10:22:56 yay! Dec 31 10:23:01 libertas_Cs works on c7x0 Dec 31 10:24:03 hi all! Dec 31 10:24:11 hey ant|work Dec 31 10:24:24 hrw: we see insane cpu occupation on c7x0 Dec 31 10:24:31 hrw: on 2.6.23 Dec 31 10:24:49 hrw: 2.6.24 ? Dec 31 10:26:02 hrw: oebug 3578 Dec 31 10:26:33 hrw: ipaq-sleep is under suspicion... Dec 31 10:27:13 cyrilRomain: ...my Gentoo is recompiling (598 ebuilds) Dec 31 10:27:31 ouch 598 ? Dec 31 10:27:34 ant|work: its probably poll something too often Dec 31 10:27:34 cyrilRomain: let see... Dec 31 10:27:45 total recompilation ;-/ Dec 31 10:27:51 hrw: are you in console-image? Dec 31 10:28:20 hrw: because the Xserver issue is different I guess Dec 31 10:28:47 x11 one Dec 31 10:28:57 cyrilRomain: yes, ground zero Dec 31 10:29:31 cyrilRomain: btw last night I built again c7xo images Dec 31 10:29:49 cyrilRomain: and shortly read about QA issues not tracked... Dec 31 10:29:57 bbl Dec 31 10:30:07 cyrilRomain: you patched this..isn't? Dec 31 10:30:34 ant|work: yes Dec 31 10:30:34 nite all, hope when I wake up. the compiled tosa kernel fits ;) Dec 31 10:30:48 cyrilRomain: nite xjqian! Dec 31 10:31:07 cyrilRomain: oops Dec 31 10:31:09 ant|work: but if you want all QA error being loggued (especially 'silent' one), you have to add QA_LOG = "1" in your local.conf file Dec 31 10:31:21 cyrilRomain: exactly my question, thanks! Dec 31 10:31:40 cyrilRomain: so it is a local option Dec 31 10:31:51 cyrilRomain: and the trigger level? Dec 31 10:32:04 ant|work: 'trigger level' ? Dec 31 10:32:08 cyrilRomain: in the .bbclass? Dec 31 10:32:22 cyrilRomain: the error level Dec 31 10:32:31 ah, in the .bbclass it was to catch _all_ qa error :) Dec 31 10:32:51 cyrilRomain: ah, I see Dec 31 10:33:06 my patch consisted in adding 2 error that were bypassed by the log feature Dec 31 10:34:00 cyrilRomain: I have "multiple provider" error for xserver-kdrive-imageon Dec 31 10:34:12 cyrilRomain: this was "ERROR" Dec 31 10:34:12 and to handle all QA error the same way, i.e. 1. dumped to the console, 2. written in the log (if QA_LOG is set), 3. generate fatal error if its a fatal QA issue Dec 31 10:34:45 cyrilRomain: like scrollkeeper Dec 31 10:35:59 '1. dumped to the console' == generate a bitbake "ERROR" message Dec 31 10:36:18 * cyrilRomain doesn't know scrollkeeper Dec 31 10:38:38 cyrilRomain: BTW I would periodically check the source url's with a script Dec 31 10:39:07 ant|work: you mean check if SRC_URI are valid ? Dec 31 10:39:16 cyrilRomain: every time I tried some were down... Dec 31 10:39:24 ant|work: there is bittest for that :) Dec 31 10:39:33 cyrilRomain: I know a developer keeps the sources, but a novice... Dec 31 10:40:03 cyrilRomain: this is the first obstacle for OE apprentice Dec 31 10:40:18 cyrilRomain: the second being qemu/gcc Dec 31 10:40:21 * cyrilRomain remember that ;-/ Dec 31 10:40:28 cyrlRomain: but now thanks to RP... Dec 31 10:40:28 * cyrilRomain remember that too ;-/ Dec 31 10:40:54 cyrilRomain: gcc-3.4.4 Dec 31 10:41:09 cyrilRomain: I'm now disgusted, but will try it ... Dec 31 10:41:25 ant|work: http://www.nabble.com/BitTest-and-Report-to2963164.html#a2963164 Dec 31 10:41:30 * disgusted from trying all gcc.3 on the net Dec 31 10:43:11 cyrilRomain: is bittest implemented in OE? Don't think so... Dec 31 10:43:23 ant|work: yes Dec 31 10:43:32 cyrilRomain: zlib is not to find a.t.m. Dec 31 10:43:40 * cyrilRomain is looking for the right mail ... Dec 31 10:44:08 cyrilRomain: I mean me and another guy had to manual copy the file... Dec 31 10:44:36 cyrilRomain: ...in the last two days... Dec 31 10:47:47 ant|work: even better http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/BitTest :) Dec 31 10:49:55 cyrilRomain: sorry, I didn't read it...the doc is very sparse... Dec 31 10:52:34 cyrilRomain: the problem is some packages don't have enough mirrors Dec 31 10:52:54 cyrilRomain: nothing to do with OE Dec 31 10:55:09 ant|work: but does'nt OE falls back to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/ if no mirror is available ? Dec 31 10:55:38 cyrilRomain: should fall back but not for zlib-1.2.3 Dec 31 10:56:14 zlib-1.2.3 is there though Dec 31 10:57:07 cyrilRomain: I experienced two days ago and read yesterday the same happened to others Dec 31 10:58:09 md5sum are missing (probably for a good reason) Dec 31 10:59:44 cyrilRomain: a lot of advisories http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q=zlib+md5&meta= Dec 31 11:01:07 cyrilRomain: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23oe/20071229.html.gz Dec 31 11:01:28 cyrilRomain: I found a broken package by unùluck! Dec 31 11:02:13 cyrilRomain: ahh, it was you whom I was talking..I forgot..sorry Dec 31 11:15:07 bbl Dec 31 11:32:55 re Dec 31 11:41:46 hmm zlib default SRC_URI cannot be reach, the it does not explain why bitbake doesn't tries others mirror Dec 31 11:41:59 s/the/but/ Dec 31 11:42:53 the fetcher uri_replace method always return uri Dec 31 11:48:40 ~spell miscelanous Dec 31 11:48:43 possible spellings for miscelanous: miscellaneous miscellanies miscellany's Marcelino's Dec 31 11:52:40 hrw: just write "misc", like anybody else =) (I hate this word with passion btw) Dec 31 11:55:20 ;D Dec 31 11:57:09 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r50776408... 10/ (14 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed) Dec 31 11:57:09 PR 3656 Dec 31 11:57:09 docbook-dsssl-stylesheets-native: New recipe. Dec 31 11:57:09 docbook-sgml-dtd-native: New recipe. Dec 31 11:57:09 docbook-utils-native 0.6.14: Added recipe for new version. Dec 31 11:57:10 docbook-utils 0.6.14: Added recipe for new version. Dec 31 11:57:12 openjade-native: Made functional from native staging location Dec 31 12:00:21 shit. I lost source of my pcmcia card defs generator Dec 31 12:07:03 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/12/31/compactflash-card-problems-why-it-is-worth-to-report-them/ Dec 31 12:48:23 why SRCDATE in addition to SRCREV ... **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 31 12:50:35 2007 Dec 31 12:51:23 hmm not git Dec 31 12:56:42 hi all Dec 31 12:58:08 gm Dec 31 12:58:41 morning crofont Dec 31 12:58:43 urhgs Dec 31 12:58:45 my spelling Dec 31 12:58:47 morning crofton, even Dec 31 12:58:51 are we all looking forward to 2008 ? :D Dec 31 12:59:07 morning all Dec 31 12:59:16 any day you wake up alive is a great day! Dec 31 13:00:11 * CoreDump had some pretty shitty days in 06, 07 and knows that 08 is not going to be any better Dec 31 13:00:22 crofton: that's about the most true thing i heard in a while Dec 31 13:00:32 CoreDump: really? what's up? need a better job? Dec 31 13:00:58 my job is actually almost perfect ;) Dec 31 13:01:14 ok... girlfriend/wife then? or relatives? ;) Dec 31 13:01:15 for me anyways Dec 31 13:01:15 mickeyl: You mean 1984? Dec 31 13:01:29 alphaone: heh, right ;) Dec 31 13:01:32 something like that, yes Dec 31 13:01:37 morning Dec 31 13:01:43 hmm, you guys are 5-6 hours closer to the new yar than me Dec 31 13:01:58 * mickeyl checks chinese new year dates Dec 31 13:02:00 morning alphaone Dec 31 13:02:10 hi alphaone Dec 31 13:02:43 ok, the year of Wu Zhi is starting on 7th February Dec 31 13:02:47 * CoreDump got himself a nice bottle of cherry wine for today Dec 31 13:03:19 Ding Hai is almost over Dec 31 13:03:50 * Crofton|home notes mickeyl is becoming knowledgable on things chinese Dec 31 13:04:49 just honoring my taiwanese co-workers. I try not to be ignorant about their culture and in fact they have a really rich culture. Dec 31 13:05:24 yeah Dec 31 13:06:05 after all, they invented gun powder :) Dec 31 13:06:11 hahaha Dec 31 13:06:12 right Dec 31 13:06:21 um fireworks Dec 31 13:06:39 i prefer oo long to chinese gun powder Dec 31 13:06:58 i tried chinese gun powder tea Dec 31 13:07:00 awful Dec 31 13:07:09 heh Dec 31 13:07:14 oolong is tea? Dec 31 13:07:17 yep Dec 31 13:07:24 not lizard wine :) Dec 31 13:07:25 most popular tea in china Dec 31 13:07:34 flo_lap: did you manage to get me some? Dec 31 13:07:41 a friend bought bacl a bottle of wine with a lizard in it Dec 31 13:07:57 Crofton|home: uh ya, seen these things... pretty uhm... special *cough* Dec 31 13:08:04 yeah Dec 31 13:08:17 especially when people are drinking it from the bottle ..... Dec 31 13:08:26 mickeyl: yeah... in the least efficient way you could imagine ;) Dec 31 13:08:48 flo_lap: hehe... had someone ship it? :)) Dec 31 13:09:08 mickeyl, we need to figure out fosde lodging Dec 31 13:09:30 mickeyl: no, hat to buy it at the airport because we did not manage to go to a shop before we left :) Dec 31 13:09:34 people are telling horror stories about teh astrid, like no included breakfast ... Dec 31 13:09:37 s/hat/had Dec 31 13:09:50 flo_lap: aah, pretty cool, thanks a lot. I'm going to visit you soon :)) Dec 31 13:10:20 Crofton|home: never heard that. been three times in the Astrid and I liked it every time Dec 31 13:10:24 mickeyl: heh, ok... you are always welcome :) Dec 31 13:10:45 flo_lap: of course not just to get Tea, but to work :) Dec 31 13:10:54 yeah, gremlin[it] and XorA|gone are spreading this rumour ... Dec 31 13:11:35 hmm ok, let me check Dec 31 13:11:39 ooh damn Dec 31 13:11:42 Crofton|home: iirc you should make sute to get the online discount - the regular room rate is really not what you want Dec 31 13:11:43 it's actually true Dec 31 13:12:00 starting with 08/01/21 breakfast is no longer included Dec 31 13:12:01 however Dec 31 13:12:07 it's 8 EUR per breakfast Dec 31 13:12:09 urg Dec 31 13:12:16 which is actualyl a good deal, because it's a good breakfast buffet Dec 31 13:12:25 imo Dec 31 13:12:29 urg 8 euro, that is like 1 000 000 usd .... Dec 31 13:12:38 *gg* Dec 31 13:12:47 I suspect we ate too much last year Dec 31 13:12:54 likely Dec 31 13:13:07 well, we should make a decision soon Dec 31 13:13:31 true. out of convenience my vote would be to chose the astrid anyways Dec 31 13:13:48 liam was in the novotel Dec 31 13:13:50 _this_ is expensive Dec 31 13:13:53 I do not think anyone has had a better sugestion Dec 31 13:14:17 well, we could do the following Dec 31 13:14:25 we well away from March this year, so rates shouldn't jump Dec 31 13:14:26 we do ac ount Dec 31 13:14:35 we do a count Dec 31 13:14:41 and then i can write the hotel a mail Dec 31 13:14:56 asking whether we could get a special discount or included breakfast if we come with 'n' people Dec 31 13:15:26 if not, we book anyways :) Dec 31 13:15:30 but at least we can try Dec 31 13:15:35 I think that is a good idea anyway Dec 31 13:18:08 Yes .. it's just not included ... Dec 31 13:18:09 I just asked the online reservation for multiple rooms and it provided no discount Dec 31 13:18:36 ya, i'm afraid that's something for bilateral conversion with a human Dec 31 13:18:49 yep Dec 31 13:19:19 I am thinking of coming a few days early and driving into France to look for my great uncles grave Dec 31 13:19:58 I think I found it on google maps Dec 31 13:20:08 mickeyl I take a look at novotel ... paying before and without possibility to change the reservation seem don't cost a lot ... Dec 31 13:22:13 Crofton|home, astrid said something about number of free rooms they have for FOSDEM days ? Dec 31 13:24:25 the offered at least 5 via the web page Dec 31 13:27:31 RP, ping Dec 31 13:31:27 heh, I wonder which network this channel in the latest screenshot belongs to :) Dec 31 13:31:30 http://scap.linuxtogo.org Dec 31 13:32:32 omg, someone is running gnome on the neo Dec 31 13:32:49 ;) Dec 31 13:33:08 guys, please add yourself to http://www.openembedded.org/fosdem2008 Dec 31 13:33:13 and add some more ideas :) Dec 31 13:33:31 flo_lap: hmm we really should have thumbnails on scap ;) Dec 31 13:34:36 omg, someone is running kde4 on the neo Dec 31 13:34:43 I guess I need to actually buy a ticket :) Dec 31 13:35:34 mickeyl: indeed Dec 31 13:36:58 flo_lap: btw Dec 31 13:37:04 i have set up a new mailserver on my host Dec 31 13:37:08 did a bit statistics Dec 31 13:37:16 80% of the spam i get comes through linuxtogo Dec 31 13:37:23 could we _please_ install a spam filter there? Dec 31 13:37:32 or update the mail server to something sane Dec 31 13:37:53 so that it does not accept some stuff in the first place Dec 31 13:38:32 someone suggested greylisting on the list Dec 31 13:38:48 yes, that's pretty non-invasive Dec 31 13:38:54 I can confirm that it reduced spam for me _a lot_ Dec 31 13:39:35 it can be annoying at times tho... Dec 31 13:39:52 unfortunately we have exim on ltg Dec 31 13:39:57 which i have zero experience with Dec 31 13:40:00 * mickeyl is a postfix guy Dec 31 13:40:09 mickeyl: sure... we really need to do this, but someone needs to do it which means having time Dec 31 13:40:31 * flo_lap just powered up his laptop during lunch Dec 31 13:41:23 mickeyl: i can't imagine that it would hurt to replace exim :) Dec 31 13:41:35 postfix here as well, I'm afraid Dec 31 13:43:20 ok I tracked down why bitbake does not falls back to angstrom sources mirror Dec 31 13:43:40 flo_lap: ok, it might mean a downtime of two days though Dec 31 13:43:48 either angstrom-mirrors.bbclass needs that fix http://rafb.net/p/bp5uNG98.html Dec 31 13:44:02 flo_lap: perhaps less Dec 31 13:44:15 either the bitbake fetch/__init__.py method uri_replace needs a fix Dec 31 13:44:33 flo_lap: i set up a couple of postfix installations before, but I have no idea about mailman / gforge integration though Dec 31 13:44:34 mickeyl: inroducing exim was easier iirc ;) Dec 31 13:45:16 hmm Dec 31 13:45:26 so perhaps just adding a spam checker to exim would be better Dec 31 13:45:32 leaving the rest alone Dec 31 13:45:44 who can do that? Dec 31 13:45:46 might want test the setup in a VM at home first ;) Dec 31 13:45:56 mickeyl, could be usefull to know who know what devices they can show ... or plan to show on the booth ... Dec 31 13:45:59 mickeyl: i'm quite sure for both there are solutions already :) Dec 31 13:46:20 gremlin[it]: yeah, i just added this to the wiki page Dec 31 13:46:20 mickeyl: Nils I hope, he set up exim... Dec 31 13:46:37 mickeyl ah sorry, i talk before look ... Dec 31 13:46:38 flo_lap: i see nils rarely on IRC, he doesn't do it a lot Dec 31 13:46:40 * flo_lap votes for the list since he is not here Dec 31 13:46:47 heh Dec 31 13:47:32 i had enabled reject_unverified_sender on my postfix recently Dec 31 13:47:34 that was amazing Dec 31 13:47:50 50% of spam blocked right at smtpd level Dec 31 13:47:52 _however_ Dec 31 13:47:58 address verification not always works Dec 31 13:48:03 thanks to some damn mailservers Dec 31 13:48:25 and graylisting at foreign servers interfers with address verification Dec 31 13:48:38 so i had to remove that again Dec 31 13:48:39 *sigh* Dec 31 13:48:40 mickeyl: http://rafb.net/p/8NWUDc43.html Dec 31 13:49:15 aah Dec 31 13:49:16 interesting Dec 31 13:49:37 don't get too much rejected with that? Dec 31 13:49:57 no false rejections yet Dec 31 13:50:05 CoreDump: ok, the same for exim please ;) Dec 31 13:50:08 pretty cool Dec 31 13:51:07 flo_lap: :\ I wouldn't know where to start ;) mail config usually makes my head hurt heh Dec 31 13:51:27 CoreDump: how does your smtpd_sender_restrictions look like? Dec 31 13:51:57 http://rafb.net/p/jnGmCT89.html Dec 31 13:52:21 CoreDump: same here... but the worst I remember was Sendmail on an IRIX box :) Dec 31 13:52:23 ah, right Dec 31 13:52:23 thanks Dec 31 13:52:37 flo_lap: sendmail!! The horror Dec 31 13:52:42 mickeyl: np Dec 31 13:53:26 i run postgrey, which actually does a pretty good job Dec 31 13:54:40 greyfiltering rocks Dec 31 13:54:45 ya, it's cool Dec 31 13:54:51 i just don't like the delay it introduces Dec 31 13:55:55 mickeyl: well, the delay should e gone for all known connections soon Dec 31 13:56:04 yes, thats a bit annoying Dec 31 13:56:06 me neither, I'll investigate into whitelisting the ML servers Dec 31 13:56:07 RP: ping Dec 31 13:56:29 but it gets ok after some time Dec 31 13:57:16 flo_lap: hook me up w/ an account and I'll have a look at exim. Not promising anything ;) Dec 31 13:57:47 ok Dec 31 13:58:45 wow cool Dec 31 13:58:47 *toi toi toi* Dec 31 13:59:40 mickeyl: so you agree? :) Dec 31 13:59:51 * flo_lap remembers his mail to the ltg list Dec 31 13:59:52 100% Dec 31 14:00:10 i don't care about exim or not Dec 31 14:00:17 i do care about spam checking :) Dec 31 14:00:27 CoreDump: do you have a user account at ltg gforge already? Dec 31 14:00:39 * flo_lap too Dec 31 14:03:06 flo_lap: I have no accounts at all on ltg Dec 31 14:06:22 CoreDump: ok, then just drop me a mail with your ssh public key Dec 31 14:07:11 * mickeyl recommends CoreDump for root access Dec 31 14:08:21 flo_lap: msg me you address please Dec 31 14:11:15 this "you" vs "your" thing is killing me. I just forget hitting the "r" :\ Dec 31 14:12:13 CoreDump: you seem to be generally upset about such things (remembers the misc quote ;) Dec 31 14:12:16 :> Dec 31 14:12:48 I am =) Dec 31 14:12:53 =) Dec 31 14:13:28 I used to type /me kicks his keyboard in IRC when I made typos, unfortunately I made typos way too often, even during that line Dec 31 14:13:38 which lead to /me licks his keyboard accidents Dec 31 14:13:59 =D Dec 31 14:14:08 :) Dec 31 14:18:12 as a non-native speaker, I really try to get the spelling right. I already hate it when I write a word wrong because I simply don't know any better, but stupid typos caused by my thick fingers annoy the hell out of me ;= Dec 31 14:19:20 well, I try to be correct but I'm usually ok with some corrupted bytes; most humans can autocorrect quite a lot of errors when parsing Dec 31 14:19:21 :) Dec 31 14:19:42 hehe Dec 31 14:19:57 there was an article with swapped letters in each word Dec 31 14:20:03 looked horrible but was perfectly readable Dec 31 14:20:23 I think they made a study and it turned out that the order of the letters in a word does not matter that much, we can still parse it correctly Dec 31 14:21:04 yes, just the first and last letter have to fit Dec 31 14:21:19 exactly, that was it Dec 31 14:34:58 morning all Dec 31 14:35:01 cyrilRomain: pong Dec 31 14:35:18 Crofton|home: pong Dec 31 14:35:39 hi RP Dec 31 14:35:48 hi RP Dec 31 14:36:28 RP, thinking about SRCREV etc, can bitbake warn/error when it sees that SRCREV is not set? Dec 31 14:36:34 RP: I think I found why bitbake does not falls back to angstrom sources mirror and a source is not reachable Dec 31 14:36:51 RP: either angstrom-mirrors.bbclass needs that fix http://rafb.net/p/bp5uNG98.html Dec 31 14:36:58 RP: either the bitbake fetch/__init__.py method uri_replace needs a fix Dec 31 14:39:37 RP: actually before returning uri, uri_replace fails to match '/.*/' with /zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 (due to the greedy nature of '.*') Dec 31 14:39:39 Crofton|home: Not really since we set it to "1" by default. Perhaps not setting it all might be a nicer failure mode Dec 31 14:42:21 hello Dec 31 14:42:38 it would be good for it to fail in such a way that the user has some idea what went wrong Dec 31 14:43:12 . Dec 31 14:43:25 Crofton|home: My other idea was having sanity.bbclass complain if SRCREV was set to "1" Dec 31 14:43:35 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rb6f7470f... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): vala[-native]: update to 0.1.5, fix glib-2.0-native dependency Dec 31 14:44:01 cyrilRomain: I think the .bbclass file needs a fix tbh Dec 31 14:44:25 RP: ok, but angstrom-mirrors is not the only one then Dec 31 14:44:38 we need to be carefuil we know what version of bitbake will work with the ansgtrom stable metadata .... Dec 31 14:45:00 RP: http://rafb.net/p/QDOpKP39.html Dec 31 14:45:02 bitbake tries to be backwards compatible Dec 31 14:45:14 tries being the key word :) Dec 31 14:45:30 cyrilRomain: Ok, please file a bug report about that preferably with a patch Dec 31 14:45:47 Crofton|home: Point me at a case when it wasn't compatible unintentionally? ;-) Dec 31 14:45:53 RP: ok, thanks for your advice about the fix :) Dec 31 14:46:33 rp, I mention this only for "informational purposes" :) Dec 31 14:47:27 Crofton|home: I know, its just something we have actually tried not to break :) Dec 31 14:47:54 * cyrilRomain files a bug with a patch Dec 31 14:49:34 * Crofton|home wonders if there ia a package somewhere that works with SRCREV = 1 :) Dec 31 14:49:47 Crofton|home: I wondered about that... Dec 31 14:50:06 even so, that shoud be fixed Dec 31 14:50:29 I favour breaking cleanly, with a meaningful message, over mysterious errors Dec 31 14:51:34 Crofton|home: I totally agree, I'm just at a loss as to how to make work in every use case :( Dec 31 14:52:01 one at a time :) Dec 31 14:52:23 You can't do one at a time as if you fix case A, case B and C break Dec 31 14:52:39 You need to consider all cases at once and this is the bit where my head hurts :( Dec 31 14:53:13 maybe I should file in bugzilla and attempt to provoke polite discussion Dec 31 14:55:13 why do we have both SRCDATE and SRC REV? Dec 31 14:55:25 Crofton|home: Mailing lists are for discussion... Dec 31 14:55:45 Crofton|home: SRCDATE is to be removed for svn recipes, its still needed for cvs Dec 31 14:55:48 but they also have a limited memory Dec 31 14:55:51 ok Dec 31 14:55:55 cvs only then Dec 31 14:56:15 SRCREV works for git, but is confusing becasue you cannot see which is klater than another Dec 31 15:07:17 Crofton|home: right Dec 31 15:29:23 cyrilRomain: ugh... Dec 31 15:29:37 cyrilRomain: I recompiled full Gentoo tonite... Dec 31 15:29:52 cyrilRomain and now new linux-headers-2.6.23-r3 appears...today...now...! Dec 31 15:30:00 cyrilRomain: :-( Dec 31 15:30:49 ant|work: you have really no luck Dec 31 15:31:24 * CoreDump never got the point of recompiling everything from scratch on a desktop... Dec 31 15:31:31 cyrilRomain: you see..I was talking about the unlucky guys who bought three defective cards... Dec 31 15:31:41 cyrilRomain: contagious! Dec 31 15:31:52 * cyrilRomain steps away from ant|work Dec 31 15:32:02 CoreDump: you warned! Dec 31 15:32:18 CoreDump: Du hast auch spass gehabt! Dec 31 15:32:33 * I try to chhet the unluck writing in german... Dec 31 15:32:48 ant|work: btw I tracked your fetch issue down http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3585 Dec 31 15:33:02 cyrilRomain: great! Dec 31 15:33:19 cyrilRomain: I'm cooking for you the full QA logs if you need... Dec 31 15:33:54 cyrilRomain: anyway strange issue with zlib! Dec 31 15:34:33 ant|work: not so strange when you put your hand more deeply in OE and bitbake :) Dec 31 15:34:55 cyrilRomain: atm too much to do in office.... Dec 31 15:35:08 cyrilRomain: now I'm sending the new SSL certs ... Dec 31 15:35:25 cyrilRoman: for 2008 to our biz partners... Dec 31 15:35:47 wow, OM has come a long way since I last tried it Dec 31 15:36:52 cyrilRomain: and was wondering whether a longer expiry date would be sane (now 365 days) Dec 31 15:37:04 cyrilRomain: ..or not Dec 31 15:42:10 CoreDump: OM ? Dec 31 15:42:12 CoreDump: did you try Navit on Neo? Dec 31 15:42:23 CoreDump: ha ok OpenMoko :) Dec 31 15:42:53 ant|work: not yet Dec 31 15:43:09 CoreDump: have they a working speechd? Dec 31 15:43:11 cyrilRomain: ;) Dec 31 15:43:19 no idea Dec 31 15:43:37 CoreDump: ok, me too Dec 31 15:43:54 CoreDump: I only saw some .bb flying around Dec 31 15:46:50 * CoreDump install gllin Dec 31 15:56:13 ant|work: the navit from the fees doesn't even start Dec 31 15:56:44 CoreDump: the navit.xml needs edit Dec 31 15:57:14 ugh Dec 31 15:57:15 CoreDump: most notably searches .so.0 instead of .so (or opposite) Dec 31 15:57:40 CoreDump: look in your mail Dec 31 15:58:00 ant|work: thanks, got it Dec 31 15:59:16 bleh, no maps =) Dec 31 16:03:08 CoreDump: I created the sample map (I think is Muenchen) Dec 31 16:03:33 CoreDump: I'll be back in one hour (finally going home...) Dec 31 16:03:38 see ya Dec 31 16:07:03 now where do I get Arial.ttf heh Dec 31 16:08:10 CoreDump: in http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ Dec 31 16:09:39 cyrilRomain: thanks Dec 31 16:10:52 CoreDump: 'cabextract --lowercase arial32.exe' Dec 31 16:21:15 re Dec 31 16:28:52 /join #cairo Dec 31 16:28:55 oop Dec 31 16:29:25 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb1eb3466... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Dec 31 16:29:25 ipaq-sleep 0.9: Remove supposed fixes for all bugs except the most prominent one. Dec 31 16:29:25 * Apparently, it was big, big mistake to touch this code. Code Police, thy curse Dec 31 16:29:25 can't be lifted, let Perl be my witness! Dec 31 16:29:25 * Leave only obvious fix (off-by one error) for #3540. Dec 31 16:29:25 * Fixes #3586. (Well, it should. Noone really have reported that ipaq-sleep Dec 31 16:29:29 does *not* use 100% of CPU time during its normal course of action.) Dec 31 16:39:57 bye Dec 31 16:56:38 and OE became quiet Dec 31 16:57:13 well, not exactly ;) Dec 31 16:58:27 I guess I'm the only person how can't figure out how to download a map from openstreetmap.org Dec 31 16:59:02 osm? I do not use it at all Dec 31 17:01:25 * CoreDump is playing w/ navit on neo Dec 31 17:01:50 with my location it does not matter does it have osm map or not ;D Dec 31 17:02:17 =) Dec 31 17:02:46 /home/gordon/oe/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/uicmoc-native-2.3.10-r4/temp/run.do_configure.29560: line 744: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' Dec 31 17:02:55 http://pastebin.ca/840233 Dec 31 17:03:33 verbose copy from base.bbclass Dec 31 17:04:46 what's wrong with oe_soinstall() ? Dec 31 17:04:50 ~curse PXA Dec 31 17:04:52 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, PXA ! Dec 31 17:05:10 pxa27x_udc strikes again ;( Dec 31 17:05:47 xjqian: no idea Dec 31 17:08:46 hrw:btw, no luck with making WM97XX or TOUCHSCREEN_TOSA modular Dec 31 17:09:41 ok Dec 31 17:09:53 hrw: from the look of the error (just looking for some header files), it may be possible with patches Dec 31 17:10:17 xjqian: I am working on 2.6.24-rc6 now (c7x0) Dec 31 17:16:52 hi, is the oe repo synchronized with another SCM than monotone ? Dec 31 17:17:17 we have git mirror Dec 31 17:17:21 one way Dec 31 17:18:36 I'm interested. what is the url ? Dec 31 17:18:57 I'm in read-only mode anyways Dec 31 17:19:52 http://repo.or.cz/r/org.openembedded.dev.git/ Dec 31 17:21:01 maybe my debian box is getting insane... Dec 31 17:21:18 Happy New Year guys Dec 31 17:21:38 hrw: Happy New Year Dec 31 17:21:44 thx hrw Dec 31 17:40:10 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * rc8c6c105... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/slugos.inc): SlugOS: bump version number in mtn up to 4.9, as 4.8 has been released. Dec 31 17:40:15 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * rc87eb377... 10/ (1 conf/distro/unslung.conf): Unslung: bump version number to 6.11-beta now that 6.10-beta is released. Dec 31 17:46:25 ~lart libtool for too much reasons Dec 31 17:46:25 * ibot squishes libtool like a bug for too much reasons Dec 31 17:47:11 * mwester wholeheartedly agrees that libtool needs significant larting. Dec 31 18:00:50 hey zecke, someone said me you were a rpath specialist, and that you loves fixing libtool issue ;-p Dec 31 18:01:11 can you please help me how to correctly fix http://rafb.net/p/Nx83kk60.html ? Dec 31 18:01:42 there are several way to fix such issue in http://wiki.debian.org/RpathIssue Dec 31 18:02:48 * cyrilRomain didn't know libtool and rpath until today and already hates it Dec 31 18:05:27 zecke: nervermind, I don't want to spoil your end of 2007 Dec 31 18:10:02 cyrilRomain: BTW: thanks for cleaning up behind me (sanity.bbclass) Dec 31 18:10:15 zecke: np Dec 31 18:10:46 yo zecke Dec 31 18:10:53 pb_: hey!!!! how are you? Dec 31 18:11:36 cyrilRomain: find out which .la file has /usr/lib/libz.la in it Dec 31 18:12:24 zecke: very good, thanks. how are you? Dec 31 18:14:37 pb_: doing good as well, changes are coming in january :) Dec 31 18:15:07 ah, excellent. what kind of changes? Dec 31 18:16:15 pb_: hehe, I quit my job and will find something new in january Dec 31 18:16:30 zecke: http://rafb.net/p/3AD6ME77.html Dec 31 18:17:37 zecke: aha, sounds good Dec 31 18:17:54 * cyrilRomain feels that as usual he was looking at the wrong place (trying to fix cairo rpath dir) Dec 31 18:18:25 cyrilRomain: hehe, take a look at libpng Dec 31 18:18:32 zecke: yes thanks Dec 31 18:18:51 cyrilRomain: you can use bruteforce and sed the libpng's .la files or first take a look :) Dec 31 18:19:01 zecke: the main change for me recently has been that I got married in september. Dec 31 18:19:08 * cyrilRomain will first take a look :) Dec 31 18:19:17 cyrilRomain: (the .la file for the -dev is probably correct) Dec 31 18:19:34 pb_: awesome! congratulation Dec 31 18:19:52 zecke: thanks :-) Dec 31 18:25:36 zecke: ok here are all the libz in libpng .la files http://rafb.net/p/q69WoI99.html Does it sound good to you ? Dec 31 18:26:43 * cyrilRomain wonders if '/usr/lib/libz.la' is ok for the .la in staging dir Dec 31 18:39:45 cyrilRomain: definately not in the staging Dec 31 18:40:32 zecke: yeah. I noticed with my old build environement I have no one abstolute path '/usr/lib/libz.la' Dec 31 18:41:11 zecke: in my new build environement, I enabled packaged staging 2, but I'm still too blind to see effect and consequences Dec 31 18:42:16 cyrilRomain: well, I can only lie. Dec 31 18:42:36 cyrilRomain: for the -dev packages /usr/lib/libz.la is okay/right. Dec 31 18:42:37 zecke: thanks for your lights Dec 31 18:42:56 cyrilRomain: for staging and packaged staging -lz would be better :) Dec 31 18:46:42 zecke: yes it makes sence that -dev packages have /usr/lib/libz.la, as well as .la files that are in the image, isn't it ? Dec 31 18:47:01 cyrilRomain: when installing -dev in the image yes :) Dec 31 18:47:05 zecke: and yes -lz would be better in staging-pkg :) Dec 31 18:58:00 cyrilRomain: e.g. I patched apr and apr-util to use -l instead of pointing to a .la but I have no idea what is proper for packaged staging Dec 31 18:58:27 now I may write a 'web server...' for an assignment Dec 31 18:58:44 zecke: ok I'll take a look, thx Dec 31 19:06:49 hi Dec 31 19:18:16 otavio: hey my script is somehow borked :} Dec 31 19:20:09 zecke: i noticed it again Dec 31 19:20:31 zecke: i've been working on xserver evdev support and then let oe for a while Dec 31 19:20:41 zecke: i hope to get into it again next week Dec 31 19:20:51 zecke: have you spot _why_ it fails? Dec 31 20:09:48 re Dec 31 21:25:49 * XorA|gone yawns Dec 31 21:29:31 afternoon Dec 31 21:38:39 hi ggilbert Dec 31 22:15:51 03cyril.romain 07org.oe.dev * r744cf977... 10/ (1 classes/angstrom-mirrors.bbclass): angstrom-mirrors: fix for recent bitbake Dec 31 22:15:58 03koen 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * r3f57f785... 10/ (1 BACKPORTS.txt): BACKPORTS: add hotfix for mirrors Dec 31 23:08:25 happy new year! Dec 31 23:39:48 happy new year guys Dec 31 23:40:05 * Crofton|home still has about 5.5 hours to go, but it is the thought that counts :) Dec 31 23:41:07 happy new year Dec 31 23:41:21 (nearly 13 hours ago for me :) Dec 31 23:41:24 hmm, you are already there? Dec 31 23:41:28 yeah :) Dec 31 23:41:38 sort of anti climatic for us Dec 31 23:41:58 we get to see most things first down here... even movies :) Dec 31 23:42:48 Yeah, but I figure this way when the end of the world arrives, us folks on *this* side of the international date line will get more warning. Dec 31 23:42:56 heh, true Dec 31 23:43:14 =) Dec 31 23:43:49 unless the asteroid hits your side of the earth first, in which case it will have happened yesterday :) Dec 31 23:45:38 In that case, since it happened yesterday, your news broadcasts would have carried the event yesterday, and we all would have had several hours warning. :) See, it works out so well! Dec 31 23:47:21 haha Dec 31 23:56:15 Happy New Year guys! Dec 31 23:56:19 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2008/01/01/2007-timeline/ Dec 31 23:58:41 happy new year everyone Jan 01 00:00:21 Happy New Year SpeedEvil then ;) Jan 01 00:00:26 ops Jan 01 00:00:29 * hrw|gone -> bed Jan 01 00:04:23 Happy New Year hrw|gone & e-ffi Jan 01 00:09:17 hrw|gone: !topic Jan 01 00:09:36 happy new beer!!! to all Jan 01 00:15:06 Happy New Year Jan 01 00:37:12 Happy New Year! Jan 01 00:57:18 hey likewise - happy new year (not for me yet, though :0) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 01 02:59:57 2008