**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 01 02:59:57 2008
Jan 01 05:35:28 <Crofton|home> hrw|gone, it wa your first Christmas with your family :)
Jan 01 08:37:28 <gremlin[it]> morning all and happy new year !
Jan 01 08:58:27 <CIA-35> 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rcbd73e46... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): 
Jan 01 08:58:27 <CIA-35> gnome-mplayer: Add a decent, clean GTK+ frontend for MPlayer.
Jan 01 08:58:27 <CIA-35> * This one is targetted at simple, clean, yet functional UI and
Jan 01 08:58:27 <CIA-35> low deps (recently deps to libgnomeui and crap was removed). Obviously,
Jan 01 08:58:27 <CIA-35> its UI doesn't contain any PDA-unfriendly elements.
Jan 01 08:58:27 <CIA-35> * Angstrom has just got *the* mediaplayer!
Jan 01 08:58:34 <CIA-35> 03pfalcon 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * r92616a5d... 10/ (1 BACKPORTS.txt): BACKPORTS.txt: Don't forget to RFC ipaq-sleep fix.
Jan 01 10:58:10 <zimbatm> I'm trying to build automake on a custom machine. Apparently, it needs libtool-cross, which cannot compile because it can't find "Automake/Struct.pm". How do you get out of such situation ?
Jan 01 11:04:22 <CoreDump> I'd try installing the -dev package providing Struct.pm on the build machine
Jan 01 11:04:58 <CoreDump> the -native and -cross stuff has certain expectations on what is installed on the build machine
Jan 01 11:08:08 <cyrilRomain> morning all
Jan 01 11:08:14 <cyrilRomain> and Happy new year !
Jan 01 11:12:36 <RP> morning all
Jan 01 11:12:47 <zimbatm> hm CoreDump, do you mean it's into one of the "ASSUME_PROVIDED"
Jan 01 11:12:57 <zimbatm> indeed, happy new year :)
Jan 01 11:13:04 <cyrilRomain> zimbatm: installing automake on your build machine should indeed get out out that situation
Jan 01 11:13:04 <CoreDump> RP: morning all
Jan 01 11:13:34 <CoreDump> zimbatm: no, I mean you should install the -dev package (rpm, deb, whatever) onto your buildmachine
Jan 01 11:13:44 <cyrilRomain> zimbatm: I wouldn't use ASSUME_PROVIDED too much and use the oe -native package (mainly because of package version used)
Jan 01 11:13:50 <CoreDump> whichever package provides Struct.pm
Jan 01 11:14:36 <zimbatm> actually, automake-1.10 is already installed on the build machine
Jan 01 11:14:41 <cyrilRomain> CoreDump: hmm should automake be added to the required software ? or should libtool-cross looks into libtool-native built for Struct.pm ?
Jan 01 11:15:24 <zimbatm> cyrilRomain, what are the -native packages ?
Jan 01 11:16:04 <cyrilRomain> zimbatm: hmm strange then. Mine is located in '/usr/share/automake-1.10/Automake/Struct.pm' on Gentoo, but as CoreDump said on your ditro you may have to install automake-dev package
Jan 01 11:16:23 <CoreDump> If Struct.pm is already staged by a -native package, it should obviously used. If it too early in the build for that, then we need to install it on the host
Jan 01 11:16:41 <cyrilRomain> zimbatm: -native packages are the packages built by OE for your build machine
Jan 01 11:17:55 <zimbatm> okay
Jan 01 11:19:13 <zimbatm> there is no -dev package on debian but the automake package provides the file : /usr/share/automake-1.10/Automake/Struct.pm
Jan 01 11:19:33 <zimbatm> I'll try the -native
Jan 01 11:30:10 * RP finally closes all the arm atags support bugs
Jan 01 11:42:46 <SyNko> hi there
Jan 01 11:47:10 <xjqian> I have a weird error: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
Jan 01 11:47:24 <xjqian> pointing to a specific line: solink=`echo $baselibfile | sed -e 's/\.so\..*/.so/'`
Jan 01 11:48:48 <xjqian> however there is no problem for the earlier incidences of the exact line in run.do_configure
Jan 01 11:49:20 <xjqian> I suspect there is something wrong with recent updates on my host?
Jan 01 11:50:16 <xjqian> any idea what could be wrong?
Jan 01 11:54:47 <CoreDump> xjqian: the error might be in another line
Jan 01 11:55:14 <CoreDump> try cutting and pasting the offending line into a shell and check if you can reproduce the problem
Jan 01 11:55:46 <xjqian> i tryied that line, there is no problem
Jan 01 11:56:03 <xjqian> the only possibility is in another line
Jan 01 11:56:05 <CIA-35> 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rffd5dadc... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.23.bb): linux-rp-2.6.23: Fix the asoc patch for poodle, make 2.6.23 the default version for qemuarm and qemux86
Jan 01 11:56:21 <xjqian>  /home/gordon/oe/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/uicmoc-native-2.3.10-r4/temp/run.do_configure.10935: line 744: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
Jan 01 11:56:46 <xjqian> CoreDump: could you try to build uicmoc-native-2.3.10
Jan 01 11:57:40 <CoreDump> sure, give me a minute
Jan 01 11:59:29 <xjqian> btw, are we moving to DISTRO=  "angstrom-2008.1" or sticking with "angstrom-2007.1" for now?
Jan 01 12:00:05 <cyrilRomain> xjqian: otherwise in a new terminal, go to the uicmoc-native-2.3.10-r4/temp directory, and copy-paste lines from run.do_configure into the shell
Jan 01 12:00:55 <cyrilRomain> xjqian: it's painfull but you will be able to see what's wrong
Jan 01 12:01:47 <xjqian> cryilRomain: I did that, it works fine
Jan 01 12:02:01 <CoreDump> NOTE: package uicmoc-native-2.3.10-r4: task do_build: completed
Jan 01 12:03:02 <xjqian> emm, interesting. error goes away with  commenting out # INHERIT += "packaged-staging2"
Jan 01 12:03:17 <cyrilRomain> xjqian: huh :[
Jan 01 12:04:10 <CoreDump> ah
Jan 01 12:04:18 <CoreDump> there's your problem then
Jan 01 12:04:31 <CoreDump> some error in packaged-staging2.bbclass
Jan 01 12:06:51 * cyrilRomain don't think the problem is in packaged-staging2.bbclass, but has no clue about the source of the problem
Jan 01 12:08:13 <xjqian> it's weird that offending line is in oe_soinstall()
Jan 01 12:08:48 <xjqian> not anywhere near the packaged-stating
Jan 01 12:09:17 <CoreDump> probably some generated script-foo
Jan 01 12:13:10 <xjqian> I can reproduce it that the ERROR only happens with INHERIT += "packaged-staging2"
Jan 01 12:13:45 <xjqian> so it's possible the line# reported by error is bogus
Jan 01 12:17:11 <xjqian> ark, found it. indeed a typo uicmoc-native_2.3.10.bb in and spotted by staging_packager() in a different linenumber
Jan 01 12:48:54 <cyrilRomain> polyonymous: hi! why did you set default preference of -1 for qemu_0.9.0+cvs.bb ? is qemu broken when built with gcc4.x ?
Jan 01 12:51:29 <polyonymous> cyrilRomain, I don't think we have mine qemu 0.9.0 in OE now, but anyway (1) yes, the one *I* added was broken for some host archs and (2) yes, it's broken when built with gcc3 as far as I remember.
Jan 01 12:52:09 <cyrilRomain> polyonymous: ok thanks
Jan 01 12:52:15 <polyonymous> np
Jan 01 12:52:38 <cyrilRomain> polyonymous: I asked because user with only gcc4 installed on their system makes qemu-native fails to build
Jan 01 12:53:14 <cyrilRomain> polyonymous: and since a gcc4 patch exists .. but I didn't know it's broken
Jan 01 12:54:15 <polyonymous> Well, I'm not sure if it's broken at compile-time, I don't remember. But it is broken.
Jan 01 12:54:24 <CIA-35> 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r93692aaa... 10/ (1 packages/uicmoc/uicmoc-native_2.3.10.bb): uicmoc-native_2.3.10: fix typo
Jan 01 12:54:45 <cyrilRomain> polyonymous: do you have a working local qemu that can build with gcc4 ?
Jan 01 12:55:00 <polyonymous> I doubt one exists
Jan 01 12:55:04 <cyrilRomain> :-/
Jan 01 12:55:22 <polyonymous> I have gcc3 for that purpose
Jan 01 12:55:46 <cyrilRomain> yeah me too, but having gcc3 _only_ for qemu :[
Jan 01 12:55:57 <polyonymous> that's life.
Jan 01 12:56:21 <polyonymous> sorry, I'm stepping away now...
Jan 01 13:24:07 <zimbatm> by compiling libtool-cross, I get : "error: C compiler cannot create executables"
Jan 01 13:24:25 <zimbatm> does it mean that gcc was not found ?
Jan 01 13:24:43 <zimbatm> I have posted the config.log here : http://rafb.net/p/UyyRrL79.html
Jan 01 13:26:29 <CoreDump> i686-linux-gcc: No such file or directory
Jan 01 13:26:37 <SyNko> Hey men, did somebody allready compiled a slugosbe for nslu2 on *bsd ?
Jan 01 13:26:58 <SyNko> im taking problems with bitbake and the mastermakefile
Jan 01 13:29:23 <zimbatm> CoreDump, shouldn't it be compiled as a dependency or is it a "-native" package again ?
Jan 01 13:30:15 <CoreDump> you need a compiler on the box to build the -native compiler ;)
Jan 01 13:30:52 <zimbatm> damned :-p
Jan 01 13:31:06 <zimbatm> lol
Jan 01 13:31:46 <zimbatm> normally, I do have all the stuff. how long did it took you until all this wasn't confusing anymore ?
Jan 01 13:32:15 <CoreDump> quite some time ;)
Jan 01 13:32:26 <CoreDump> zimbatm: have a look at http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OEandYourDistro
Jan 01 13:34:02 <zimbatm> thx, I'm ok here. I think I've read openembedded.org/*
Jan 01 13:34:26 <zimbatm> under debian it's easy anyway, there is the openembedded-essential meta-package
Jan 01 13:34:32 <CoreDump> yr
Jan 01 13:34:35 <CoreDump> yep
Jan 01 13:35:36 <zimbatm> I think my error was to directly jump in my own machine and distro file.. I'll start with x86/generic to better understand the system
Jan 01 13:37:03 <zimbatm> CoreDump, on what part of OE do you work ?
Jan 01 13:37:35 <CoreDump> mainly angstrom stuff, it varies
Jan 01 13:37:46 <zimbatm> all that compilation gives some time to chat on irc :p
Jan 01 13:38:00 <zimbatm> are you paid for that ?
Jan 01 13:38:22 <SyNko> k, so speaking about devolope nslu2 oe firm :)
Jan 01 13:38:37 <CoreDump> heh I wish =) No, it's a hobby. I like embedded hacking, that's all
Jan 01 13:39:10 <CoreDump> SyNko: I have no idea if it is supposed to work on *bsd
Jan 01 13:39:13 <zimbatm> same here but I'm still new in the field :)
Jan 01 13:39:36 <SyNko> k, so.. im gonna do it
Jan 01 13:39:50 <zimbatm> SyNko, isn't there a nslu2 channel maybe ?
Jan 01 13:39:58 <CoreDump> I've build nslu2-be recently, yes. No problems.
Jan 01 13:40:16 <SyNko> but it's full of noobs :)
Jan 01 13:40:25 <SyNko> i would ask in the roots
Jan 01 13:40:50 <SyNko> now im gonna porting the required apps for oe on bsd
Jan 01 13:41:12 <SyNko> bit bake is working
Jan 01 13:41:29 <CoreDump> I guess running linux in a vm would be faster ,)
Jan 01 13:41:40 <zimbatm> SyNko, the following page talks about FreeBSD : http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OEandYourDistro
Jan 01 13:41:50 <SyNko> greaT!
Jan 01 13:42:07 <SyNko> :( ive just read
Jan 01 13:42:18 <SyNko> k, this is the way!
Jan 01 13:42:47 <SyNko> im gonna make gnu patch, ty .. see yah later
Jan 01 13:45:08 <zimbatm> CoreDump, do you know the elphel cameras ?
Jan 01 13:45:30 <CoreDump> never heard of them
Jan 01 13:46:11 <zimbatm> check out : http://www3.elphel.com/index.php
Jan 01 13:46:44 <zimbatm> it's a network camera which uses a FPGA for fast image processing
Jan 01 13:47:12 <zimbatm> their distro sucks so I'm trying to port OE :)
Jan 01 13:48:21 <zimbatm> I hope OE already has some etrax CPU support
Jan 01 13:50:19 <CoreDump> dude, these things are bloody expensive
Jan 01 13:53:00 <zimbatm> yes, I think the FPGA counts for the half of the price but I don't care, I got one for free :)
Jan 01 13:53:16 <CoreDump> lol, nice howl
Jan 01 13:53:29 <zimbatm> howl ?
Jan 01 13:53:31 <CoreDump> haul 
Jan 01 13:53:57 <CoreDump> catch, whatever
Jan 01 13:54:06 <zimbatm> .. checking the dict
Jan 01 13:54:11 <zimbatm> :)
Jan 01 13:55:28 <zimbatm> actually the cheaper "axis" cameras use the same cpu but they don't have the same resolutions and fps
Jan 01 13:59:54 <CoreDump> god I hate slow downloads
Jan 01 14:00:41 <SyNko> torrent? :)
Jan 01 14:01:11 <zimbatm> in the same idea, I'd like a P2P mulit-arch compilation network
Jan 01 14:01:13 <CoreDump> worse, recursive wget
Jan 01 16:22:11 <CIA-35> 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * rbc99dc2d... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): gpsd: Provide working default configuration and init-script for fic-gta01. This makes gpsd device-specific for gta01, please check the feeds.
Jan 01 16:22:17 <CIA-35> 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r32469c96... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): navit: Fix navit.xml to search for the proper library extensions
Jan 01 16:22:23 <CIA-35> 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r774bfc5b... 10/ (1 packages/speechd packages/speechd/speechd_0.56.bb): speechd: Add speechd for navit (untested)
Jan 01 16:22:28 <CIA-35> 03pfalcon 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * r728de5e7... 10/ (1 BACKPORTS.txt): BACKPORTS.txt: Ok, meld sucks at merging. Let's try sth else next time.
Jan 01 16:28:55 <hrw> morning
Jan 01 16:31:25 <Crofton|home> gm
Jan 01 16:31:47 <hrw> how was new yar party?
Jan 01 16:32:14 <Crofton|home> good
Jan 01 16:32:29 <Crofton|home> saw several people from out of town and their new kids
Jan 01 16:32:53 <hrw> nice
Jan 01 16:33:01 <Crofton|home> yeah, quiet
Jan 01 16:34:39 <hrw> I found new use for my cellphone
Jan 01 16:35:05 <hrw> bt + hid profile == nice remote for desktop (useful during watching tv)
Jan 01 16:39:18 <CoreDump> hrw: yep, I did that until I got a real remote for the notebook =)
Jan 01 16:39:51 <CoreDump> the svn fetcher  is a pain
Jan 01 16:40:03 <CoreDump> how do I always fetch the lastest version?
Jan 01 16:40:24 <hrw> SRCREV = "${AUTOREV}" + bitbake patch
Jan 01 16:40:42 <CoreDump> ugh
Jan 01 16:43:27 <hrw> I got nice movie to test video on pdas ;)
Jan 01 16:43:43 <hrw> VIDEO:  [XVID]  1920x800  12bpp  23.976 fps  4946.9 kbps (603.9 kbyte/s)
Jan 01 16:45:10 <CoreDump> =D
Jan 01 16:45:24 <CoreDump> tell me when you find a PDA playing _that_ smoothly
Jan 01 16:45:38 <hrw> or at all :D
Jan 01 16:46:01 <CoreDump> hehe
Jan 01 16:48:58 <hrw> and I wonder will Ania laptop be able to play that :D
Jan 01 16:49:17 <hrw> two reasons: 1. ms windows 2. celeron mobile
Jan 01 16:49:25 <CoreDump> good luck
Jan 01 16:49:48 <hrw> probably we will watch it on my desktop
Jan 01 16:49:58 <CoreDump> I can play these movies on my dualcore just fine, the old centrino always sucked at that res
Jan 01 16:50:39 <hrw> ok, I go 
Jan 01 16:50:40 <hrw> bye
Jan 01 17:56:20 <CIA-35> 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r0d9bd56d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): openmoko-apps: Add openmoko-gps by Lucas Bonnet
Jan 01 19:00:23 * Crofton|home turns over his 24 hour glass
Jan 01 19:11:31 <CoreDump> heh
Jan 01 19:17:53 <flo_lap> re
Jan 01 19:40:03 <pb_> hi flo_lap 
Jan 01 19:40:22 <flo_lap> hi pb_ 
Jan 01 20:08:32 <zimbatm> the AUTHOR meta is intended for the .bb author, or the project's source author ?
Jan 01 20:09:40 <CoreDump> good one
Jan 01 20:11:27 <CoreDump> I would believe it is for the projects author but can't find anything about that in the OE manual
Jan 01 20:12:32 <zimbatm> I would say the .bb file, so that you can easily contact the .bb author if it fails
Jan 01 20:12:49 <zimbatm> I'm grepping the packages to find the common usage
Jan 01 20:13:58 <CoreDump> no
Jan 01 20:14:14 <CoreDump> that's what the MAINTAINER file is for
Jan 01 20:14:25 <CoreDump> and before that, we had a MAINTAINER variable
Jan 01 20:14:28 <hrw> author is upstream author
Jan 01 20:16:15 <zimbatm> thx
Jan 01 20:16:40 <hrw> AUTHOR[doc] = "The author of the files installed."
Jan 01 20:16:52 <hrw> conf/documentation.conf
Jan 01 20:16:57 <CoreDump> doh =)
Jan 01 20:16:58 <zimbatm> it matches what I've found with grep. for example libsndfile's AUTHOR is attributed to the package's author
Jan 01 20:17:02 <zimbatm> =)
Jan 01 20:17:50 <zimbatm> the variable is not often used : grep -r "AUTHOR =" . | wc
Jan 01 20:17:56 <zimbatm>     127     633    8796
Jan 01 20:18:42 <zimbatm> 127, where half of the files are different version of a package
Jan 01 20:18:58 <zimbatm> just for the info. :)
Jan 01 20:19:14 <hrw> I am trying to add it when create new recipe
Jan 01 20:19:17 <CoreDump> usually HOMEPAGE is better IMO
Jan 01 20:19:29 <CoreDump> points one to the project w/o any searching
Jan 01 20:20:14 <zimbatm> yes, giving the credits to one person is often wrong, like if linux.bb's AUTHOR would be Linus Thorwalds
Jan 01 20:20:28 <CoreDump> hehe
Jan 01 20:21:03 <hrw> but if project is one person...
Jan 01 20:21:19 <zimbatm> bitbake's pastelog command is broken on the 1.8 svn branch. is it a known issue ?
Jan 01 20:21:31 <zimbatm> hrw, yes it happens too
Jan 01 20:24:11 <hrw> zimbatm: whole interactive shell is broken
Jan 01 21:01:13 <zimbatm> hrw: good to know, sry for the delay
Jan 01 21:59:22 <CIA-35> 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb3426398... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gnome-mplayer: Of course, we need MPlayer itself.
Jan 01 21:59:29 <CIA-35> 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r7c47cd53... 10/ (30 files in 3 dirs): qemu: Add 0.9.0+cvs20071121 from Poky. DEF_PREF = -1.
Jan 01 23:27:36 <CIA-35> 03Paul 07org.oe.dev * r560f1294... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
Jan 01 23:27:36 <CIA-35> task-opie*: "apm" is MACHINE_FEATURE, not COMBINED.
Jan 01 23:27:36 <CIA-35> * Fixes #3154.
Jan 02 02:41:38 <xjqian> ping CoreDump
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