**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 09 02:59:58 2008 Jan 09 04:12:41 Hey folks, can I get some help with this? http://pastebin.org/14641 Jan 09 04:24:13 drmikecrowe: put ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" in your local.conf file, and be happy. Jan 09 04:38:52 mwester: Thank you!!! Jan 09 04:39:59 no problem; I can't get qemu to work on my system either. Jan 09 04:52:55 hey mwester, that did the trick. I have another n00b question: I'm trying to build an executable, not an ipkg file. Where can I read to find out how to retarget or build like this? Jan 09 05:20:11 The ipk contains the executable(s); you can just extract the package from the ipk file (it's a .deb file, renamed, in terms of format). Jan 09 05:21:05 The executables can be found by poking about in your tmp/work directory structure -- they are packaged up into the ipk from that structure where they're built. Jan 09 07:01:06 mwester, drmikecrowe: I had qemu working on dev, but since switching to stable it is now broken too **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 09 07:33:06 2008 Jan 09 07:34:41 morning Jan 09 07:48:29 morning Jan 09 08:19:47 gm Jan 09 08:20:29 hrw: ever seen this one ? http://www.pulster.de/teklogix_netbook_pro.htm Jan 09 08:20:54 ant|work: yes. over year ago Koen took one to oedem Jan 09 08:21:06 hrw: BTW this site has Zaur Jan 09 08:21:08 kernel 2.6.9 is latest for it ;( Jan 09 08:21:17 hrw: BTW this site has Zaurus batteries for cheap! Jan 09 08:22:18 cheaper then trisoft but not then amazon :D Jan 09 08:22:51 hrw: tried one and just works....even being a little "bigger" Jan 09 08:23:09 hrw: half a millimeter... Jan 09 08:23:25 hrw: but fits not so easy like Sharp's one Jan 09 10:00:15 re Jan 09 10:06:04 morning Jan 09 10:08:22 hi! Jan 09 10:08:36 privet :> Jan 09 10:08:42 hey Bernardo Jan 09 10:09:18 Bernardo: I got a DSM510 now, seems to be somewhat better than the 320 Jan 09 10:09:35 :) Jan 09 10:18:07 hi dmitry Jan 09 10:38:10 Jin^eLD: I'm totaly broke right now... I can't even afford to look at hardware specs... :) Jan 09 10:38:22 :( Jan 09 10:53:15 Does the 510 have a dvd reader? Jan 09 10:53:29 no, it's quit e small actually Jan 09 10:53:35 rather tiny box Jan 09 10:57:58 Right now I have a media centre pc, running mythtv Jan 09 10:58:51 a small box might be interesting for the kitchen, when one of us is there and wants to watch the news while cooking Jan 09 11:04:07 Hi, all! Jan 09 11:04:14 Happy New Year! Jan 09 11:13:03 Bernardo: what kind of media center pc do you have for mythtv ? Jan 09 11:13:54 that's on my project list for next year, my girlfriend (and me too) is bored to watch divx and series on the PC (even though it has a 20'' wide screen) Jan 09 11:17:48 Longfield: I bought a advent DHE-500 cheap on ebay Jan 09 11:18:57 dual core P4, 512MB ram (upgraded to 1.5GB later), 120GB HD, WinTv HVR1100 hybrid (DVB-T + analog), and a radeon X300 Jan 09 11:19:49 Bernardo: looks like a very nice piece of hardware to be next to the TV Jan 09 11:20:01 It has a RT2570 chipset wifi adapter, and that one give me some problems, as the rt2x00 drivers on the latest ubuntu kernels have rate negotiation problems, you need to set the rate at 11 or 54Mbps Jan 09 11:20:20 It looks like a part of the wifi system, and is extremely quiet Jan 09 11:20:47 but needs some free space around and above, as if it heats up the fans kick in and make some noise Jan 09 11:23:46 I also had made a VGA-SCART cable to get better signal than using the svideo out, but after feisty the open source ati driver broke interlaced output Jan 09 11:24:08 and the binary driver ignores modelines and doesn't allow setting low clock rates Jan 09 11:26:21 yeah ... the great fglrx driver. I have laptop with a board that was only supported by this one, don't want to have to deal with it anymore ... running experimental radeonhd now Jan 09 11:26:29 Bernardo: ati suxx in general Jan 09 11:33:35 hehehe Jan 09 11:33:44 The OE repository is mighty big Jan 09 11:33:57 I have 15000 packages in my deploy dir Jan 09 11:44:41 I returned a laptop with a ati chipset for one with a intel GMA950 Jan 09 11:44:44 never regreted it Jan 09 11:44:57 * XorA|gone sticks with nvidia Jan 09 11:45:08 that way I get speed and reliability and HDTV Jan 09 11:45:15 But my wife PC has a radeon 9600pro, and works perfectly with the latest fglrx Jan 09 11:45:31 nvidia broke xvmc with series 8xxx cards Jan 09 11:45:57 If intel had their latest chipsets for sale on pcie cards, I'd buy one Jan 09 11:46:15 * XorA|gone likes playing 3d games so Intel is out Jan 09 11:46:30 Bernardo: 8xxx nvidia chipsets do not have 2D unit at all Jan 09 11:46:57 * Bernardo plays nwn on his laptop Jan 09 11:47:17 hrw: and that sucks for myth... Jan 09 11:47:59 anyway, time to build for the simpad and maybe try mythfrontend on it... Too bad myth still doesn't have decent touchscreen support Jan 09 11:48:26 Bernardo: change 8xxx to 7xxx then Jan 09 11:49:06 Im surprised it tool nvidia so long to remove the 2d unit, it was already mostly unused by the drivers in GeForce 2 days Jan 09 11:49:26 at ST the gfx card we were designing in 2000 had no 2d unit Jan 09 11:52:41 hrw: no cash to spare there... Maybe later this year Jan 09 12:07:46 Bernardo: I think the 510 is overpriced for a small kitchen box, after all it can do HD and stuff, you'd be better off with a cheap telegent tg100 for around 70EUR Jan 09 12:11:02 ~seen psokolovsky Jan 09 12:11:05 psokolovsky was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 5d 11h 11m 40s ago, saying: 'Kevin2: damn, should be "find" then ;-D'. Jan 09 12:11:15 Jin^eLD: that sounds affordable enough Jan 09 12:13:33 bbl Jan 09 12:23:33 net-tools is not building ... Jan 09 12:35:20 some of Haralds u-boot patches for neo where commited to u-boot git Jan 09 12:38:05 my daily annoyance question: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3593 :> anyone feelis like looking into that? I also sent something to the ML as hrw suggested :> Jan 09 12:38:17 s/feelis/feels/g Jan 09 12:54:34 Jin^eLD, I looked at the bug, but this is not anything I am good at ... Jan 09 12:55:56 can you suggest a candidate for annoying? :) Jan 09 12:58:47 not really :( Jan 09 12:59:23 I didn't reall run away, just rebooting that machien trying to figure out a vmware issue Jan 09 13:47:02 hi everybody Jan 09 13:47:22 yo thesing_ Jan 09 13:47:30 thesing_: hows the computer issues coming? Jan 09 13:48:08 hi thesing Jan 09 13:48:21 XorA|gone: Nothing new yet. I will email them later. Jan 09 13:48:42 hrw: BTW unless you add some trolls and small hairy people, OE manual doesnt make good child reading material :-) Jan 09 13:48:55 thesing_: :-( Jan 09 13:49:25 RP checked my changes into .dev so you can build testimages. Jan 09 13:49:57 XorA|gone: ;D Jan 09 13:50:39 I didn't test it yet because I can't build images. (512 MB RAM seems to be not enough) Jan 09 13:52:12 wb thesing_ Jan 09 13:52:22 I compiled OE for a long time with 320 MB Jan 09 13:52:24 thesing_: no its not, I shall have to see about some images tomorrow then Jan 09 13:53:26 thesing_: I beleive people here could probably find you a compiler machine account Jan 09 14:12:14 rschuster: Thank you for your Java work. Do you care to go through the bug tracker together and deal with bug reports that have become obsolete because of this? Jan 09 14:14:20 rschuster: Nevermind. I just found Jan 09 14:14:20 !oebug 3655 Jan 09 14:14:20 where you intend to do just that. I'll make my comment over there. Jan 09 14:14:22 * * Bug 3655, Status: NEW, Created: 2008-01-09 05:46 Jan 09 14:14:23 * * thebohemian(AT)gmx.net: cleanup after java-native merge Jan 09 14:14:24 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3655 Jan 09 14:14:36 Thanks again for the great work. Jan 09 14:18:31 Laibsch: you're welcome. :) Jan 09 14:18:52 Laibsch: yes please make all request in PR 3655. then I can find and fix it Jan 09 14:25:02 good morning Jan 09 14:25:10 hi fl Jan 09 14:25:12 orian Jan 09 14:25:34 * florian needs a new brain Jan 09 14:25:34 hm, my enter hitting finger is out of sync Jan 09 14:25:52 lrg: Do you use a Mainstone? Jan 09 14:26:08 rschuster: re bug 2730: I think you should RFC for the removal of old bb files. Jan 09 14:26:18 florian: we have 2, although they are old and a bit flakey Jan 09 14:26:47 rschuster: Alternatively, you can move just the old files to obsolete/ and not worry about your changes to .inc Jan 09 14:26:57 lrg: Old right... but with a lot of colourful lights ;) Jan 09 14:27:11 florian: yes Jan 09 14:27:27 lrg: Which kernel do you use? I found out that support for these with a recent kernel sucks badly... Jan 09 14:28:05 florian: git HEAD or recent git HEAD (within last month) Jan 09 14:28:28 florian: I'm running one with something based off git post 2.6.23 right now. Jan 09 14:28:31 Laibsch: true. as a classpath contributor I also think that the old classpath versions only have historical value (and are otherwise full of bugs and missing features) Jan 09 14:28:53 morning Jan 09 14:29:00 I've not noticed any particular problems with it, but then I'm not using much except the serial port, ethernet and ASoC code. Jan 09 14:29:04 lrg, broonie: Oh ok, are there improvements over 2.6.23? Jan 09 14:30:20 The only thing I'm aware of is an ASoC-specific fix for the change to the new clock API. But I may just not be exercising whatever it is that is giving you trouble. Jan 09 14:30:31 rschuster: sorry about ecj-native, that was my doing ;) Jan 09 14:31:04 I found out that keypad and camera are not supported any more, using sound crashes the machine and power management sucks because the flash is locked after resume. Jan 09 14:32:12 apaulsen: np. it served a need. :) Jan 09 14:32:20 Ah, I'm not using the keypad or camera at all and the flash is only used for BLOB (netbooting the rest).l Jan 09 14:34:14 rschuster: I look forward to trying out your improvements, I admit my classpath cvs stuff, cacao, and ecj work was a little ugly. Jan 09 14:34:20 Sound works fine for me but this is with Wolfson codecs on the daughter card under ASoC so probably not what you're using at all. Jan 09 14:36:45 oh well... Jan 09 14:42:39 florian: you may want to mail Stanley Cai (google email) about Mainstone Jan 09 14:46:11 lrg: ehm ok... should i quote you? :-} Jan 09 14:47:35 florian: can if you want, he maybe doesn't know things are broken Jan 09 14:48:09 florian: although he is probably busy on pxa3xx stuff now Jan 09 14:48:11 lrg: okay... Jan 09 14:49:07 lrg: well... he should know. Both keypad and camera driver never made it upstream imho. Jan 09 15:05:47 hello, where can i find the doc for making the configurations files for the machine,the distro? Jan 09 15:05:57 otavio: ~6000 revs togo Jan 09 15:07:37 it's because http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=gettingoe_configuring_oe is blank Jan 09 15:11:44 GNUtoo: look into conf/machine/ Jan 09 15:11:54 ok Jan 09 15:11:58 thanks Jan 09 15:12:08 but that will be harder...lol Jan 09 15:12:48 GNUtoo: what machine you have? cpu arch etc Jan 09 15:13:05 does it have pcmcia/cf, sound, internal storage, apm support Jan 09 15:13:20 i think it's more the distro that is a problem than the machine because i have no X,qt... Jan 09 15:13:34 X, qt etc are other thing Jan 09 15:13:42 GNUtoo: first start with machine config Jan 09 15:13:48 and the machine is a armv4l special sound 30gb hdd on a special controler... Jan 09 15:14:07 armv4l? not armv4t? Jan 09 15:14:16 GNUtoo: strongarm or arm920t core? Jan 09 15:14:27 http://pastebin.com/m3b98a91d Jan 09 15:14:37 920t Jan 09 15:15:43 Processor : Arm925Tsid(wb) rev 2 (v4l) Jan 09 15:15:56 ok Jan 09 15:16:27 but it's on an omap chip Jan 09 15:16:39 and there is a second chip Jan 09 15:16:46 that is a dsp also in arm Jan 09 15:16:59 IT OMAP5910 Jan 09 15:17:04 yes Jan 09 15:17:31 you are limited to 2.4 really? no 2.6 for archos? Jan 09 15:18:34 on the pma430 yes on newer generation no Jan 09 15:18:52 the problem is that there are proprietary kernel modules for multimedia,keypad... Jan 09 15:18:59 happens Jan 09 15:19:27 GNUtoo and some firmware signing too Jan 09 15:19:43 yes but the bootloader was cracked Jan 09 15:19:49 on pma430 Jan 09 15:19:55 not on newer generations Jan 09 15:20:13 GNUtoo I'm interested of getting a X5 but ... Jan 09 15:20:21 they just figured out how to execute code on newer generations Jan 09 15:22:29 chouimat|work, mabe you should wait a little bit or ask questions in #x04 Jan 09 15:23:01 chouimat|work, and on x5 they also have signed kenrel modules... Jan 09 15:23:24 GNUtoo I will wait a few months ... too much work and I'm looking about getting a few others things before, like a ps3, efika, ts-7800 and probably and avr32 board Jan 09 15:26:57 hrw, is my config file ok? Jan 09 15:27:27 GNUtoo: you need to set kernel and please remove -Os option Jan 09 15:39:28 hrw, http://pastebin.com/m4ad8adc8 Jan 09 15:41:23 remove kernel_imagetype - zImage is default Jan 09 15:41:31 there is ext2 not ext3 feature Jan 09 15:42:03 http://pastebin.com/d143b0662 is fixed one Jan 09 15:43:45 thanks a lot... Jan 09 15:44:12 now more difficult: the distro... Jan 09 15:44:18 zecke: great!!!! good news Jan 09 15:44:59 GNUtoo: simple - use angstrom but edit all lines where it has collie/simpad and add your device into list Jan 09 15:45:55 ok i'll try but the toolchain is external the image also and it uses qt Jan 09 15:49:52 if I have an external toolchain for a particular CPU, the toolchain was created for a different device and is uclibc based, I want to compile stuff for yet another device (same cpu) but mine is glibc based; can I still make use of that toolchain? Jan 09 15:50:28 ...strill trying to produce something that would run on that broadcom v0.6 Jan 09 16:30:08 bye Jan 09 16:34:03 Jin^eLD: I'd imagine that being hard to change :/ Jan 09 16:35:01 RP: can't I compile a glibc using that other toolchain? Jan 09 16:35:20 I anyway wonder if we could reproduce that toolchain in OE Jan 09 16:36:27 Jin^eLD: I didn't say can't, I said hard ;-) Jan 09 16:36:42 ;) Jan 09 16:36:43 I've found its not that difficult to reproduce toolchains in OE and is often easier Jan 09 16:36:58 RP: could you give me some pointers? Jan 09 16:38:54 RP: we have a wrt54.conf in OE, that seems to work well for the v0.7 broadcom things, I do not know what the big difference between v0.6 and v0.7 is, but the stuff that I compiled with that machine config produced illegal instructions on the target Jan 09 16:41:29 Jin^eLD: It sounds like its an earlier processor version or something... Jan 09 16:41:56 it seems so, yes Jan 09 16:47:46 RP: it seems that ASUS also published the sources for the toolchain that they used for their device Jan 09 16:48:33 so I have something to start with, just a question of OE'ing it Jan 09 16:49:21 looks like at first it is anyway buit with glibc Jan 09 16:49:28 and uclibc is added later Jan 09 16:52:23 morning folks Jan 09 16:52:47 hi micropal Jan 09 16:52:49 hi mickeyl Jan 09 16:53:20 Jin^eLD: If you're lucky OE might even have the versions needed Jan 09 16:54:41 RP: well, question how to find that out :) in the build script when configuring gcc - I see they are using --with-bcm4710a0 Jan 09 17:01:14 hrw: could you please check whether the kernel at http://tosa.lumag.spb.ru/uploads/tosa-test-wm97xx/zImage-2.6.23-tosa-20080107194021.bin is more stable than the 2.6.23 from 2007.12 branch in the context of suspend/resume? Jan 09 17:05:56 hey mickeyl, you have a second? I have a couple of questions about bugzilla for you Jan 09 17:06:33 at your service Jan 09 17:06:41 happy new year to you, btw. Jan 09 17:06:44 Jin^eLD: That could be the key but I really don't know enough about those machines to be of much help Jan 09 17:06:58 Thanks, same to you Jan 09 17:07:23 I see, thx anyway Jan 09 17:07:32 ggilbert: btw, since the bugzilla changes the oe-issues list is no longer getting bugzilla email. I think you know about this but just wanted to check Jan 09 17:08:04 mickeyl: the first question is regarding Laibsch. He used to have access to the Admin, OE, and QA groups in bugzilla, but that access was removed by koen in October. He asked to have it reinstated, is this ok with you? Jan 09 17:08:09 RP: I'll take a look, thanks. Jan 09 17:09:06 ggilbert: absolutely. Laibsch is trustworthy, please reinstate it. I'm very sorry about koen's solo attempts recently :/ Jan 09 17:09:36 ggilbert: I'll second that, Laibsch should not have been removed Jan 09 17:09:57 Ok, I'll get him reinstated in a second Jan 09 17:10:22 it sounds to me like Koen should probably not have admin access any more Jan 09 17:10:28 Any complaints with that being removed? Jan 09 17:13:10 what PREFERRED_PROVIDER should i put when there is no X but only qt? Jan 09 17:13:16 (framebuffer) Jan 09 17:13:27 ggilbert: no complaints here Jan 09 17:13:41 i'm sorry to say but it looks like we have some serious conflicts forthcoming Jan 09 17:13:53 :\ Jan 09 17:14:06 mickeyl: I'd agree, this is going to cause trouble Jan 09 17:14:24 still hoping to deescalate, but there's some major problems w/ koen and ltg.org Jan 09 17:14:35 I left him in the OE group since I was assuming he's involved with development Jan 09 17:14:47 but anyways, lets keep cool for the time being Jan 09 17:14:50 ggilbert: right Jan 09 17:14:58 He should be left with normal bugzilla access at least Jan 09 17:15:04 definitely Jan 09 17:15:13 That's fine by me then Jan 09 17:15:59 Someone had better let him know whats been done and why... Jan 09 17:17:19 I can do it if push comes to shove, but I'm really not very good at that sort of thing Jan 09 17:17:20 zecke: are you at home next week? we need to talk soon. Jan 09 17:18:06 ggilbert: I'll send something I guess Jan 09 17:18:23 awesome Jan 09 17:24:14 bye! Jan 09 17:32:23 mickeyl: I'm going to Oslo on the 16th Jan 09 17:32:29 mickeyl: I can give you a talk though :) Jan 09 17:33:46 zecke: ok, plenty of time then. we can talk on friday or saturday Jan 09 17:34:04 mickeyl: I have time, now :) Jan 09 17:34:25 need to talk soon, sounds urgent Jan 09 17:34:36 well Jan 09 17:34:38 lets talk tomorrow Jan 09 17:34:47 mickeyl: okay, which timezone ;) Jan 09 17:34:52 MEZ? Jan 09 17:35:01 lets say 15.00? Jan 09 17:35:12 hehe Jan 09 17:38:38 otavio: 3839 revs togo Jan 09 17:44:17 hmm Jan 09 17:44:24 i guess we should really remove the fortran requirement Jan 09 17:44:34 since it doesn't seem to fix the issue anyways Jan 09 17:45:03 mickeyl: it fixed it here, but I know it is breaking things as well :} Jan 09 17:45:26 * RP is point blank refusing to install fortran on his machine Jan 09 17:45:41 I wonder if we can compile gcc-cross-fortran outside gcc-cross? Jan 09 17:46:23 a proper fix can't be heard(tm)... Jan 09 17:47:35 The first question is do we really want fortran as a Prerequsite? Jan 09 17:47:54 no Jan 09 17:48:02 (would be my answer) Jan 09 17:48:14 you know my answer ;-) Jan 09 17:48:54 My only selfish opinion is, I don't want my build to be broken Jan 09 17:49:40 and I'm on a death march project(again) and I hate my job Jan 09 17:50:10 "work" by defintion isn't meant to be enjoyable :/ Jan 09 17:50:39 zecke: wow! great. Jan 09 17:51:06 RP: I know, but I live in luxury Jan 09 17:51:26 RP: with sane work I would have went home 51 minutes ago Jan 09 17:53:32 mickeyl: RP: feel free to disapprove the rev adding fortran as dep Jan 09 17:54:15 zecke: It was an appropriate response after the gcc-cross change, I just disagree with that too :/ Jan 09 17:57:35 morning all Jan 09 17:58:18 anyone? what PREFERRED_PROVIDER should i put when there is no X but only qt? (framebuffer) Jan 09 18:01:34 PREFERRED_PROVIDER for what? Jan 09 18:02:19 mickeyl, i saw that: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libx11 ?= "diet-x11" but i wonder what to put if i have no X11 but framebuffer... Jan 09 18:02:29 ah Jan 09 18:02:32 well Jan 09 18:02:39 i'd say it doesn't matter then, right? Jan 09 18:02:54 ok...thanks Jan 09 18:03:00 when you never build virtual/libx11, it's irrelevant which PREFERRED_PROVIDER you chose Jan 09 18:03:14 so i'll use none Jan 09 18:03:55 thanks Jan 09 18:05:15 np Jan 09 18:34:06 hello again, bitbake doesn't work and throw a python error(Traceback): http://pastebin.com/m79e9ea1d what is wrong? Jan 09 18:35:21 GNUtoo: what do you think? Jan 09 18:35:35 zecke, don't know Jan 09 18:35:53 GNUtoo: there are only 15 lines, you could try to read them all Jan 09 18:35:56 zecke, mabe i have to setup sqlite... Jan 09 18:36:14 GNUtoo: what does it say in regard to sqlite? Jan 09 18:36:55 zecke,attempt to write a readonly database but i have no idea on how to resolve the problem...they do not talk about sqlite in the installation tutorial Jan 09 18:37:07 is it like mysql? Jan 09 18:37:29 GNUtoo: Well, this can be solved by thinking. No need to document that, everyone can think Jan 09 18:37:42 GNUtoo: A sqlite db is just a file on your filesystem Jan 09 18:37:50 GNUtoo: if it is read only the file could not be written Jan 09 18:38:11 ah ok i thoudhg of mysql-like permissions Jan 09 18:38:24 GNUtoo: So what you have to find out is where sqlite wants to write your file and why it can't do that Jan 09 18:38:34 ok Jan 09 18:38:36 GNUtoo: normally it should be in the CACHE_DIR (IIRC) Jan 09 18:39:04 ok thanks a lot Jan 09 18:56:52 zecke, now i have this error: ERROR: No providers of build target nano (for []) Jan 09 18:57:22 and my target and distro are set up in the configuration file Jan 09 19:04:37 GNUtoo: check BBFILES is correctly set in your local.conf file Jan 09 19:05:39 Hi! Jan 09 19:05:41 BBFILES := "/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" Jan 09 19:05:47 hi psokolovsky Jan 09 19:05:52 RP: ping about smallscreen mod Jan 09 19:05:52 it seems ok i'll pastebin the find Jan 09 19:06:35 the packages folders are in /oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages Jan 09 19:08:42 http://pastebin.com/m769d3cd0 Jan 09 19:09:42 GNUtoo: test question. Bitbake told you how many files it parsed Jan 09 19:10:03 NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 0 parsed, 0 skipped, 0 masked. Jan 09 19:10:06 morning all Jan 09 19:14:45 I'm not finding the org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable branch. Is it in the main repo or where did angstrom-2007.1 go? Jan 09 19:16:53 cbrake: http://www.mail-archive.com/angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org/msg01192.html Jan 09 19:18:37 cyrilRomain: thanks! Jan 09 19:20:10 zecke, cyrilRomain bitbake -b http://pastebin.com/m57039307 Jan 09 19:20:51 GNUtoo: Okay, so 0 files were parsed? Jan 09 19:21:02 yes Jan 09 19:21:10 GNUtoo: then your BBAPTH environment is wrong or not exported, or your BBFILES inside your local.conf is not right Jan 09 19:22:11 Hi , I would be interessted in a "typical flow" document. when a package does not work. how to you proceed ,at what stadge do you create the patches etc Jan 09 19:22:29 cbrake: more officialy, the building angstrom web page say: 'mtn --db=/path/to/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.{angstrom-2007.12-stable,dev}' Jan 09 19:22:42 do you use quilt or similar while playing in the work directory? Jan 09 19:23:21 keesj: yes quilt ease the creation of patch IMHO Jan 09 19:23:33 keesj: I do "bitbake -c devshell ", and then use quilt to manage patch files Jan 09 19:23:36 zecke, it was the BBPATH but i must have messed up my $PATH because it doesn't find all the utilities such as gcc make etc... Jan 09 19:24:49 GNUtoo: once again: Your BBPATH is not right or not exported Jan 09 19:25:43 $ export BBPATH=/oe/build:/oe/org.openembedded.dev/ Jan 09 19:26:18 http://pastebin.com/m62fd28c1 Jan 09 19:26:37 GNUtoo: which instructions do you follow? Jan 09 19:26:49 http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Jan 09 19:27:54 GNUtoo: and the result? parsed more than one file? Jan 09 19:28:45 zecke, don't know how many files it parsed but here the output: http://pastebin.com/m85453e9 Jan 09 19:29:10 GNUtoo: so your BBPATH was not set or exprted ;) Jan 09 19:29:32 $ echo $BBPATH /oe/build:/oe/org.openembedded.dev/ Jan 09 19:30:03 GNUtoo: the above was in past tense! Jan 09 19:30:12 ah ok Jan 09 19:30:27 and just a little more into (devshell did not work btw) ater that you what steps (clean/compile/compile/compile/install?) Jan 09 19:31:45 GNUtoo: you also messed up with your PATH, or read to quickly the beginning of the GettingStarted guide Jan 09 19:33:04 * keesj is reading about devshell /ignore remark about devshell Jan 09 19:33:43 psokolovsky: pong Jan 09 19:34:05 is it important to have oe at /stuff ? or do /oe works? because i changed all to /oe Jan 09 19:34:34 RP: So, do you have a plan how to proceed with importing Poky's changes to OE & Angstrom? Jan 09 19:34:41 Hi btw! ;-) Jan 09 19:34:48 because it says it's not important Jan 09 19:35:08 GNUtoo: not important at all Jan 09 19:35:11 psokolovsky: Which ones? Jan 09 19:35:26 RP: smallscreen gtk Jan 09 19:35:32 GNUtoo: the only requirement we have (due the packages we build) is to not have any symlink in the path Jan 09 19:37:02 psokolovsky: The question is should that patch be applied to OE uncondtionally? Jan 09 19:38:07 RP: you mean do_patch? Yes, unless you made there too much stuff w/o runtime detection ;-) Jan 09 19:39:01 here's my $PATH it seems ok http://pastebin.com/m4866e6df but i don't know if it's ok Jan 09 19:39:14 psokolovsky: Doesn't that filechooser patch change the filechooser for everything? Jan 09 19:39:16 RP: so far, we have almost all gtk+patches applied unconditionally, and they, so to say, lean towards TS support vs mouse. That's more limiting than leaning towards support smallscreen devices ;-) Jan 09 19:39:33 Why do I have this error with `bitbake nano` (http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted) Jan 09 19:39:33 ERROR: Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. Jan 09 19:39:33 Either fix the cause of this error or at your own risk disable the checker (see sanity.conf). Jan 09 19:39:33 Following is the list of potential problems / advisories: Jan 09 19:39:33 Please install following missing utilities: GNU Fortran Compiler Jan 09 19:39:53 RP: we talk about Poky patch or mine? Mine changes margins for everything, but I would find that acceptable. Jan 09 19:40:07 lisppaste7: paste Jan 09 19:40:10 lisppaste7: url Jan 09 19:40:10 To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/oe and enter your paste. Jan 09 19:40:18 psokolovsky: I was assuming you were talking about the poky patch Jan 09 19:40:23 bernt: ^^^ use that instead... Jan 09 19:40:34 psokolovsky: I don't mind poky's patch being merged into OE Jan 09 19:40:46 bernt: Look at the last line you pasted here Jan 09 19:40:52 bernt, mabe you don't have fortran Jan 09 19:41:00 bernt: Next time, use a pastebin, please Jan 09 19:41:16 RP: I know little about Poky patch, except that you'd prefer it over mine in OE. My question: are you ready to make quick steps to import it and maintain? Just in case, I'm ready for mine ;-) Jan 09 19:41:53 I have installed g77, but normally there is no need for fortran to compile c-Sources ... Jan 09 19:41:58 RP: well, the question is as always - do you have time to spend supporting it and fix issues, if any ;-) Jan 09 19:42:02 psokolovsky: Which would you prefer to use, poky's or yours? Jan 09 19:42:28 psokolovsky: Poky's does have a number of neat features Jan 09 19:42:48 psokolovsky: How about, you try copying in poky's gtk recipe into your local build and see if you like it? Jan 09 19:43:10 psokolovsky: It may be you like it enough to help maintain it and develop it further Jan 09 19:43:26 RP: I'd prefer to have it in OE ASAP, and merge to Angstrom soon. That's really my only preference. If OH's work on such support is the future, it would make sense to use them soon now too. Jan 09 19:43:37 bernt: normally not, except when compiling gcc 4.2.2 in OE Jan 09 19:43:54 RP: sounds good. I exactly wanted to check with you how Jan 09 19:44:08 bernt: check the commit message adding that to sanity.bbclass Jan 09 19:44:10 'd you suggest to get going with it, and if I can help anyhow. Jan 09 19:44:24 psokolovsky: It should just be a case of copy it over Jan 09 19:44:31 psokolovsky: It you run into problems I will try and help Jan 09 19:45:04 or I can copy it over if you like but I don't have an angstrom build to test with so you'll have to wait at least 48 hours until I do have one Jan 09 19:45:24 RP: yep, my concern would be - what if I find it less adapted to qvga than mine, would you be willing to work on solving such issues, process patches to your patches, etc ;-) Jan 09 19:45:36 zecke: where do I find this message? ( I have followed the http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted) Jan 09 19:45:51 What the heck is going on in http://rafb.net/p/YDYBlP26.html? Happened out of the blue, really. Jan 09 19:45:55 RP: I can try myself of course, if can settle plan what would be next ;-) Jan 09 19:46:40 RP: so, decided, I'll check myself locally, post note to ML and screenshots somewhere ;-) Jan 09 19:46:58 Laibsch: I guess you are building angstrom Jan 09 19:47:05 psokolovsky: Right, have a look and see what you think Jan 09 19:47:14 Laibsch: but you have to change BBFILES in your local.conf file Jan 09 19:47:18 what package would staging/x86_64-linux/bin/install-sh be provided with? Jan 09 19:47:18 bernt: http://www.openembedded.org:1081/revision/info/a5c7b007eaa675cc904f5285291d2f8a597efc84 Jan 09 19:47:19 psokolovsky: I didn't write that patch but I know people who did and I will put you in touch Jan 09 19:47:32 cyrilRomain: I am building Sonkei Jan 09 19:47:34 psokolovsky: You should be quickly able to see if its going to do what you want or not? Jan 09 19:47:40 cyrilRomain: An Angstrom overlay Jan 09 19:47:59 RP: ok. but again, as for OE import, likely you who will need to do that ;-) Jan 09 19:48:04 Laibsch: so you work on .dev ? Jan 09 19:48:10 cyrilRomain: Yes Jan 09 19:48:20 aparently the version i am using handles parameters differently from coreutils Jan 09 19:48:30 cyrilRomain: Plus the Sonkei overlay Jan 09 19:48:44 RP: well, I don't have my pda handy today too, so may take a day or two Jan 09 19:49:18 OK seems, that I have installed enough fortran-packages ... ;-) Jan 09 19:49:28 psokolovsky: You don't need a handheld, try one of those qemu images ;-) Jan 09 19:49:54 RP: Well, that won't be "real" ;-D Jan 09 19:50:31 RP: Oh, anyway, do you know the "official" way to get qvga versatile emu? Jan 09 19:50:32 psokolovsky: It is surprisingly realistic, just try it ;-) Jan 09 19:51:25 psokolovsky: ah, I'd forgotten its not qvga as standard. You can set it to qvga just by changing the mode with fbset though Jan 09 19:51:37 Laibsch: the last time I got that error it was when my BBPATH didn't match BBFILES (hence my question if you didn't work on angstrom-stable branch but with .dev in variables). No clue then :( Jan 09 19:51:50 RP: aha, thanks, will try that. patched kernel so far ;-) Jan 09 19:52:49 cyrilRomain: I will double-check BBPATH and BBFILES. The strange thing is that it worked until about two hours ago. Have not pulled or made any changes since then. Jan 09 20:00:27 re Jan 09 20:00:36 florian: hi Jan 09 20:00:43 wb Jan 09 20:00:52 cyrilRomain: Thanks, you were indeed right. It was in mistake in my bitbake environment setup script which resulted in a messed up BBPATH. Jan 09 20:01:13 Laibsch: I know :) Jan 09 20:01:35 Laibsch: in fact I lost 1 hour yesterday to figure out why I had that error ;) Jan 09 20:14:57 can oe build the toolchain for me? Jan 09 20:15:27 GNUtoo: sure Jan 09 20:15:36 cyrilRomain, wow Jan 09 20:15:44 cyrilRomain, how? Jan 09 20:17:01 GNUtoo: follow carrefully the GettingStarted guide, and look _carefully_ at what bitbake generate Jan 09 20:17:47 GNUtoo: you will see it will build a (cross)-toolchain for you Jan 09 20:17:57 ok thanks a lot Jan 09 21:16:13 pH5: hi! i've made it all the way here :) Jan 09 21:16:30 hej lfcorreia Jan 09 21:16:54 pH5: i've also sent the log in a PM Jan 09 21:17:26 * pH5 checks mail Jan 09 21:18:29 "[configure-target-libgfortran] Error 1" Jan 09 21:18:53 that looks like you got hit by the "fortran needed" issue Jan 09 21:20:18 pH5: is that a common error as well? I'm using Centos 5.1 as my distro, with a home brewed 2.6.24-rcsomething bleeding edge kernel Jan 09 21:21:38 you have to install the gfortran package on the host. I think this is not fixed yet. Jan 09 21:25:33 pH5: it is installed (gcc-gfortran-4.1.2-14.el5), now I must add some ASSUME_PROVIDED += "gfortran-native", right? Jan 09 21:28:03 it works!!! wow!!! thanks a lot for all your help Jan 09 21:43:39 * lfcorreia is away: I'm busy Jan 09 21:49:02 when I have a revision hash, with mtn, how do I view the diff of that revision ? Jan 09 21:49:55 Dodji: mtn au --help Jan 09 21:50:58 zecke_, I just want the the equivalent of "git show " Jan 09 21:51:05 zecke_, hello btw :-) Jan 09 21:51:22 Dodji: I know... mtn au get_revision REV will show you what files changed Jan 09 21:52:31 zecke_, is is possible to get a plain diff describing the revision ? Jan 09 21:52:50 (with one command) Jan 09 21:53:06 Dodji: wait a second :) Jan 09 21:53:11 (or more) Jan 09 21:53:27 cyrilRomain: I am glad you hit it first ;-) Jan 09 21:53:53 Dodji: mtn diff -r p:REV -r REV with mtn 0.38 :) Jan 09 21:54:17 woah Jan 09 21:54:20 thanks zecke_ Jan 09 21:54:29 :} Jan 09 21:54:34 bbl Jan 09 21:57:04 doesn't work Jan 09 21:57:50 Dodji: that is from the mtn news file ;) Jan 09 21:58:12 Dodji: you have two options Jan 09 21:58:57 okay I got mtn diff -r rev1 -r rev2 Jan 09 21:58:59 finally Jan 09 21:59:03 Dodji: do not use 'p:' if you have the complete sha Jan 09 21:59:12 ahhh Jan 09 21:59:16 Dodji: yep, p: actally is use to expand Jan 09 21:59:17 yeah I had the complete one Jan 09 21:59:18 a) http://blog.leggewie.org/?p=23 Jan 09 21:59:20 okay Jan 09 21:59:30 b) monotone-viz has an option Jan 09 21:59:39 an mtn show would be handy ;-) Jan 09 21:59:55 Dodji: monotone-viz is your friend Jan 09 22:00:09 Visualizing things helps a lot Jan 09 22:00:11 is there a way to have old gcc(2.95.3-10) and old glibc(2.2.5-10) other than using an external toolchain? Jan 09 22:00:29 Laibsch, is it a graphical program ? Jan 09 22:00:35 yes Jan 09 22:00:42 Laibsch, I don't necessarily want to something graphical Jan 09 22:00:52 that is a bit overkill for my usage. Jan 09 22:00:59 ??? Jan 09 22:01:18 A graph is kind of always "graphical" ;-) Jan 09 22:01:20 anyway, I will just use the diff -rfoo -rbar Jan 09 22:01:22 thanks Jan 09 22:01:38 But you will need to know the rev and its parent's rev Jan 09 22:01:48 Laibsch, I mean to just see the changeset, frankly I don't use a graphical tool ... Jan 09 22:01:49 Or use the trick from my blog Jan 09 22:02:04 Well, I would if it was easier Jan 09 22:02:06 And it is Jan 09 22:02:23 I used to do the cli trick mentioned on my blog Jan 09 22:02:45 GNUtoo: no the oldest gcc in OE is 3.3.3 (at least in recent metadata). So you'd better use an external toolchain i think Jan 09 22:03:07 cyrilRomain, ok thanks Jan 09 22:31:38 op odesan Jan 09 22:32:23 ops Jan 09 22:49:13 i have | configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables Jan 09 23:00:41 anyone? Jan 10 00:42:48 hi guys Jan 10 00:42:58 hi Spyr1 Jan 10 00:42:59 I've written a gpio_keys driver for e-series Jan 10 00:43:08 so thepower button now reports :) Jan 10 00:43:15 Hi Fique Jan 10 00:43:32 what does userspace need to do to hook the key and use it to power off the PDA ? Jan 10 00:53:05 ian u rule btw ;) <-roguestar191@brighthand Jan 10 00:53:55 oh hi roguestar :) Jan 10 00:54:01 (and thanks :) ) Jan 10 00:54:28 :D i havn't done anything else on my 740 yet, not quite sure what to do, it's looking great tho cause ppc2002 sucks Jan 10 00:56:35 oxbaadf00d: Im prodding the keypad ASIC now Jan 10 00:56:42 I can read scancodes from it :) Jan 10 00:56:48 for _all_ the buttons Jan 10 00:57:05 its _abominably_ laggy though Jan 10 00:57:14 like 1 second per event Jan 10 01:01:11 oxbaadf00d: the toshiba keypad asic is REALLY crappy. Jan 10 01:14:46 Spyr1 they didn't respond very well in ppc2002 either did they? I seem to remember having trouble playing games with them Jan 10 01:17:29 yeah but they were better than that Jan 10 01:17:49 its a serial device Jan 10 01:18:15 I think my quick userspace hack (replicates the bootloader code) is being interfered with by the kernel Jan 10 01:18:20 hence the slowness Jan 10 01:18:37 Im rewriting the hack to use the serial device properly to see if that fixes it. Jan 10 01:59:59 sounds great, if you want me to test anything on mine here i can Jan 10 02:01:42 will let you know Jan 10 02:08:43 oh great. enabling serial support nuked the console. Jan 10 02:28:20 ohhhh. I see. bummer. one of the UARTs is sharing a GPIO with the MMC controller. not good. Jan 10 02:29:54 *screams* argh. why did they use BTUARTs GPIO. theres no way that can work with the current linux btuart driver. Jan 10 02:30:00 toshiba are idiots. Jan 10 02:33:42 we've known that much though for a while Jan 10 02:33:48 that they're idiots Jan 10 02:34:14 but does this mean an entire new btuart driver needs to be written for these things? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 10 02:59:57 2008