**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 29 02:59:57 2008 Jan 29 08:11:53 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r868100b2... 10/ (1 usermanual/reference/dirs_install.xml): usermanual/reference/dirs_install.xml: document palmtopdir and palmqtdir Jan 29 08:26:30 re Jan 29 08:37:51 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r534f1f70... 10/ (14 files in 3 dirs): qpf-fonts: rename qpf.bbclass to qpf.inc and dependent changes as discussed on ml. Partly closes 2430. Jan 29 08:44:52 morning Jan 29 08:50:45 morning :) Jan 29 08:51:45 hrw: I am tryin to find why i18n packages is not built for Opie with OE Jan 29 08:55:03 s/is/are Jan 29 08:55:21 opie-i18n ones? Jan 29 08:55:47 yes Jan 29 08:55:54 they are built? Jan 29 08:59:54 gints what are you looking for exactly? Jan 29 09:00:05 RP: do you happen to know what is wrong with gconf-dbus_svn.bb? It seems to have several problems in its interaction with the svn fetcher which make it unbuildable. Jan 29 09:01:04 hrw: opie-ttf-support does not need to RDEPENDS on font-update-common, or does it? Jan 29 09:01:20 Laibsch: I want that default opie image and feed build includes i18n packages Jan 29 09:01:38 again, what package exactly? Jan 29 09:01:48 locale package? Jan 29 09:01:52 input method? Jan 29 09:02:00 localized help? Jan 29 09:02:07 feed=anstrom? Jan 29 09:02:14 feed=anstrom? -> #angstrom Jan 29 09:03:17 ok.. Jan 29 09:10:58 hrw: Why is http://rafb.net/p/JchfRy97.html failing in do_configure with | /export/embedded/tmp/sonkei-0.0.1/work/armv5te-sonkei-linux-gnueabi/opie-ttf-support-1.1-r3/temp/run.do_configure.18070: line 618: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'? Jan 29 09:11:17 Do I need an empty do_configure? Jan 29 09:17:28 Laibsch: maybe Jan 29 09:17:44 Laibsch: I do not remember when I built it last time Jan 29 09:17:56 Seems like something else Jan 29 09:18:04 Although I cannot immediately spot the problem Jan 29 09:18:16 hrw: opie-ttf-support does not need to RDEPENDS on font-update-common, or does it? Jan 29 09:18:24 it need Jan 29 09:20:54 ayotayo! Jan 29 09:23:33 aduga Genesis Jan 29 09:23:48 hrw: Looks like the echo function is giving problems Jan 29 09:24:16 * Genesis 's working on kboot :) Jan 29 09:24:17 hrw: My understanding was that fonts depends on font-update-common and call "update-fonts" in postrm/postinst Jan 29 09:24:47 Why would opie-ttf-support RDEPENDS on font-update-common? Jan 29 09:29:08 hrw: lo Jan 29 09:29:34 hrw: I met up with some people using oe in hong kong Jan 29 09:30:49 collie is booting again Jan 29 09:31:11 gerwinin: we have chinese speaking OE developers quite close to Hong Kong Jan 29 09:31:45 Xora: I met some people in hong kong maybe they were there as well Jan 29 09:31:56 Xora: it was very interesting Jan 29 09:32:10 gerwinin: I mean OpenMoko guys Jan 29 09:32:29 Xora:I had some very interesting input from those people Jan 29 09:32:38 gerwinin: good Jan 29 09:33:11 Xora: There will be a linux event in hong kong and they invited oe to come Jan 29 09:33:28 Xora: So maybe you or zecke or mickeyl can go there ? Jan 29 09:33:46 gerwinin: we be better to try and get johncylee to go, he is only in .tw Jan 29 09:34:08 Xora: That is a good idea Jan 29 09:34:21 gerwinin: is this event after FOSDEM? Jan 29 09:34:29 Xora: yes Jan 29 09:34:55 gerwinin: then we can all discuss at FOSDEM supporting people in far away places like Hong Kong Jan 29 09:35:08 Xora: good idea Jan 29 09:35:20 gerwinin: 1/4 of the worls population using OE would be a win :-D Jan 29 09:35:48 Xora: I also saw so many linux based devices in hong kong Jan 29 09:36:10 gerwinin: ebay is full of chinese linux devices Jan 29 09:36:23 Xora: yeah a pitty I cannot bring them :( Jan 29 09:36:55 Xora: I saw a pretty cool zaurus imitation ;) Jan 29 09:39:20 Laibsch: ok, maybe not need to Jan 29 09:39:30 * hrw -> food Jan 29 09:40:16 hrw: I also found the problem for opie-ttf-support bb Jan 29 09:40:19 one " too many Jan 29 09:40:20 ;-) Jan 29 09:44:35 hi all. is bugs.openembedded.org down? Jan 29 09:45:38 * Laibsch points to topic Jan 29 09:45:42 .net instead of .org Jan 29 09:46:02 ok thanks Jan 29 09:47:14 .org should work, though. Both point to the same IP again. Jan 29 09:47:52 Oh, no they don't. Jan 29 09:48:00 It was a local change I made Jan 29 09:48:04 Laibsch: depends on the TTL of the .org address Jan 29 09:48:13 Laibsch: oh, DOH! Jan 29 09:48:15 Has it been updated yet? Jan 29 09:48:28 Laibsch: did you ask for it to be updated :-) Jan 29 09:48:37 YES Jan 29 09:48:40 About a week ago Jan 29 09:49:49 kergoth: Can you please point bugs.openembedded.org to 76.74.156.109? Jan 29 10:03:50 Laibsch: mail him Jan 29 10:04:03 I think I did Jan 29 10:04:08 Last time Jan 29 10:07:31 h4x0r the DNS Jan 29 10:18:08 hrw: ttf.inc should RDEPENDS on fontconfig-utils, right? Jan 29 10:20:29 RP: ping Jan 29 10:20:53 Laibsch: no Jan 29 10:21:09 Laibsch: you can use ttf fonts with opie... Jan 29 10:21:25 That is true Jan 29 10:21:30 so rather rrecommends or move fontconfig-utils rdependency into its users Jan 29 10:21:46 So, none of the ttf fonts should RDEPENDS on fontconfig-utils? Jan 29 10:21:57 Should they RSUGGEST it? Jan 29 10:22:16 RDEPENDS > RRECOMMENDS > RSUGGESTS, anything else? Jan 29 10:22:50 I will go for RRECOMMENDS in ttf.inc Jan 29 10:24:05 hrw: What could there possibly be in SECTION = "x11/fonts"? Jan 29 10:24:14 Just mislabeled ttf fonts? Jan 29 10:24:24 Or is there a font-type specific to X11? Jan 29 10:25:04 * * OE Bug 3718 has been created by justri(AT)justri.dyndns.org Jan 29 10:25:06 * * busybox/syslog init script bug Jan 29 10:25:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3718 Jan 29 10:27:15 SECTION can be anything for me Jan 29 10:27:25 fonts/truetype etc Jan 29 10:32:01 It seems that 'RPROVIDES = "virtual/japanese-font"' as I was advised to use is broken Jan 29 10:32:27 I guess 's!virtual/!!' would be the right thing to do? Jan 29 10:32:45 IOW, replace "virtual/japanese-font" with "japanese-font" Jan 29 10:34:13 rather 'japanese-font-for-opie-only-as-it-is-qpf' Jan 29 10:34:24 No Jan 29 10:34:29 look at sazanami Jan 29 10:34:34 which is a Japanese font Jan 29 10:34:49 (albeit unworking in opie at the time of writing) Jan 29 10:34:57 hello there Jan 29 10:35:02 Laibsch: I would rather make japanese app rrecommend sazanami Jan 29 10:35:18 Well, if it was working Jan 29 10:35:25 Laibsch: virtual/ doesnt work in RXXXX space Jan 29 10:35:26 Do you have an idea why it is not? Jan 29 10:35:26 is there any usagi umip bitbake? Jan 29 10:35:47 usagi = rabbit? Jan 29 10:35:57 I need to get umip daemon compiled for angstrom distro Jan 29 10:36:14 everytime someone says usagi reminds me of Domo-kun and Silent Hill Jan 29 10:36:16 hrw: Do you have an idea why it is not? Jan 29 10:36:23 XorA: Why? Jan 29 10:36:31 USAGI : UniverSAl playGround for Ipv6 Jan 29 10:36:32 XorA: domo-kun japanese? Jan 29 10:36:37 Laibsch: why what does not work? Jan 29 10:36:48 Laibsch: Domo-kun lives with usagi, and usagi music video comes from SIlent Hill Jan 29 10:37:06 hrw: You might remember that sazanami displays gibberish in opie Jan 29 10:37:18 * Laibsch hints at qemu images from about two weeks ago Jan 29 10:37:27 XorA: Is usagi a rabbit? Jan 29 10:38:00 Laibsch: I remember that images but no idea why it does not work Jan 29 10:38:12 Laibsch: find opie developer and ask Jan 29 10:38:16 Laibsch: yes Jan 29 10:38:21 * hrw is not opie dev since hh.org trademark wars Jan 29 10:39:49 hrw: You know they are few Jan 29 10:39:57 You were always the font guy IIRC Jan 29 10:40:16 So maybe you can try and remember and enlighten me when you find a spare minute Jan 29 10:40:27 I am afraid, there won't be anybody else Jan 29 10:40:34 and all I had to do was use qtttffontdirupdater + opie-freetype Jan 29 10:40:42 Laibsch: use other Japanese font Jan 29 10:40:42 XorA: How clever, a rabbit called "rabbit" ;-) Jan 29 10:40:55 hrw: I'll give it a try Jan 29 10:41:01 those are very commonly used Jan 29 10:41:08 Laibsch: I dont think they actually named the rabbit, Domo-kun comes from a series of adverts on Japanese tv Jan 29 10:41:17 And they work fine on my desktop Jan 29 10:41:21 Laibsch: Kochi family for example Jan 29 10:41:26 OK Jan 29 10:41:38 MS mincho ;-) Jan 29 10:42:04 Laibsch: Bitstream Cyberbit font was working for me years ago Jan 29 10:43:42 XorA: I'll need to pay more attention to the TV commercials next time ;-) Jan 29 10:44:31 Laibsch: its the funniest thing I have ever watched and I don't understand a word Jan 29 10:44:41 Laibsch: my wife bought me a Domo-kun, wanted one for years Jan 29 10:44:46 * Laibsch goes youtube'ing Jan 29 10:45:00 they are all on youtube Jan 29 10:45:15 XorA: ping me next time and maybe I can bring some more fan gadgets ;-) Jan 29 10:45:59 Laibsch: what I really need is a Japanese babelfish so I dont have to hunt out fan subs Jan 29 10:53:20 XorA: jisyo.org Jan 29 10:56:40 I am trying to build ecos native, it requires that configure is ran from a clean build dir (something like ../configure) Jan 29 10:56:54 how would I do that in a racipe? I noticed a ${B} thing Jan 29 10:57:01 but not sure if I need that Jan 29 10:57:41 and oe_runconf probably wants to have the configure script in cwd? Jan 29 11:17:28 Jin^eLD: maybe have a look at kaffe's recipe Jan 29 11:17:52 Jin^eLD: there is a bit of oe_runconf trickery in it. perhaps it helps you to achieve what you want Jan 29 11:20:26 hrw: Can we delete populate_packages_prepend from packages/qpf-fonts/qpf.inc? Jan 29 11:20:37 It would certainly need modification Jan 29 11:20:42 Jin^eLD: you could also look whether you can make oe_runconf() from autotools.bbclass more flexible to Jan 29 11:20:59 s/to/too/ Jan 29 11:33:58 Laibsch: if you use proper DESCRIPTIONs then it can be dropped Jan 29 11:34:11 OK Jan 29 11:34:59 hrw: Wouldn't it make sense to move qte-fonts-common to qpf-fonts/ (and possibly rename to qpf-fonts-common? Jan 29 11:35:10 Then we consolidate like files in one place Jan 29 11:35:20 "like files" Jan 29 11:35:22 similar files Jan 29 11:38:43 sure Jan 29 11:40:37 is it possible to disable the serial console for a kernel? Jan 29 11:40:59 The latest collie kernel boots but I get no output from the serial console Jan 29 11:41:16 hi! Jan 29 12:03:13 @ all who want to build maemo packages: I fixed the libxml2 version preference and added an recipe for the older libxml2 version Jan 29 12:05:30 rschuster: cool Jan 29 12:05:35 rschuster: nice Jan 29 12:06:08 my n810 is in courier hands for 1.5h now Jan 29 12:08:01 gpe-scap will now install without dependency problems :) Jan 29 12:19:11 Hi all. Anyone here that can help me with my problem? Jan 29 12:20:02 I try to build OE target "bootstrap-image" for AVR32.... Jan 29 12:21:58 build fails in package linux-2.6.23. Error message: init/built-in.o: could not read symbols: File format not recognized. Jan 29 12:26:13 klecks: Have you looked at the bug tracker? Jan 29 12:26:23 If there is no report yet, your best bet is to create one Jan 29 12:26:32 hrw : Is the alix in .dev working ? Jan 29 12:26:46 hrw : working=working kernel Jan 29 12:27:48 ~seen thesing Jan 29 12:27:50 thesing was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 14h 57m 2s ago, saying: 'hi everybody'. Jan 29 12:28:21 Ok.. I'll have a look. Just want to be sure it is not stupid me responsible for this problem .... Jan 29 12:28:54 steliosk: I use that kernel on alix Jan 29 12:34:06 hrw : ok thanks Jan 29 12:35:35 will have to bump it to 2.6.24 (or .25-rc1) one day Jan 29 12:39:13 re Jan 29 12:39:20 klecks: Don't worry to report one bug too many Jan 29 12:39:41 that does not exist Jan 29 12:39:50 "one too few" does exist, though Jan 29 12:40:04 ok... can't open bugtracker, anyway... Jan 29 12:40:33 * Laibsch points to topic Jan 29 12:40:38 .net instead of .org Jan 29 12:44:29 ahh... ok... Jan 29 12:50:50 rschuster: thanks, will have a look Jan 29 13:00:04 rschuster: not sure if kaffe does what I was looking for, the comment in the trickery says that it installs in another location Jan 29 13:00:13 I have to run configure from an empty directory Jan 29 13:00:16 I googled a bit and found the this newsgroup posting >>http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/17252<< Jan 29 13:00:24 (separate build dir) Jan 29 13:00:41 but how can I take ld from avr toolchain? Jan 29 13:01:24 Jin^eLD: sure, but it uses a customized oe_runconf and that is what you need, too Jan 29 13:02:28 aaah, I think I now get the idea Jan 29 13:02:29 thanks Jan 29 13:06:31 Jin^eLD: I expect that you need to trick OE into the following: Jan 29 13:06:32 - unpack ecos sources into WORKDIR/something Jan 29 13:06:32 - point S to the initial empty directory Jan 29 13:06:32 - do ../something/configure from inside S Jan 29 13:06:56 the reason is that other parts of OE depend on stuff being built inside S and that makefiles exist Jan 29 13:08:23 btw. is your ecos recipe that ecos http://ecos.sourceware.org/ ? Jan 29 13:10:06 rschuster: yeah, tahts the ecos that I want to build Jan 29 13:10:14 I need ecos-native so I have vairous tools for building redboot Jan 29 13:13:49 Jin^eLD: does that mean we can soon build ecos-based images in OE? Jan 29 13:15:27 rschuster: uhm.. no :) I do not know much about ecos as such, I only need it as a dependency for building redboot (it has some weird command line tools that are needed by the redboot build system) Jan 29 13:17:20 I do not remember anymore, but didn't we actually have uboot and redboot in OE? Jan 29 13:22:30 doh, when I want to override do_unpack Jan 29 13:22:34 where do I find my package? Jan 29 13:22:43 I looked at a few examples but could nof igure it out so far Jan 29 13:27:23 what's this do_unpack_real() thing that some recipes are using? Jan 29 13:33:12 hi florian Jan 29 13:34:53 ~spell gratulate Jan 29 13:34:55 possible spellings for gratulate: granulate graduate graduated gradate gratuity gradual retaliate garrulity gradated capitulate gradually Jan 29 13:38:04 guys, really stupid thing but I can not figure out how to manually unpack something, where is the source located when I am inside do_unpack() ? Jan 29 13:40:56 Jin^eLD: Have you looked at what the standard do_unpack does? Jan 29 13:41:29 oops, I should have thought about this myself... Jan 29 13:41:31 thanks RP :) Jan 29 13:41:43 hrw: are you sure about the dependency on qte-font-common? Jan 29 13:42:09 I think what you want (the script) is already provided by qpf-font-common Jan 29 13:42:09 btw what is python do_unpack() and just "do_unpack()" ? Jan 29 13:42:32 Laibsch: that translation site is awesome Jan 29 13:42:33 hrw: I'll make corresponding changes Jan 29 13:42:42 XorA: Ain't it? Jan 29 13:42:57 XorA: At least the database is also based on open-source Jan 29 13:43:01 so to speak Jan 29 13:43:14 Not sure about the license, but it is a community effort Jan 29 13:43:26 no longer do I have to rely on the fact a lot of sites use common english software so you can navigate from the link names not what is on screen Jan 29 13:43:39 and what is this thing doing? do_unpack[dirs] = "${WORKDIR}" Jan 29 13:43:41 ? Jan 29 13:44:00 Jin^eLD: The python means that do_unpack is a python function Jan 29 13:44:25 Jin^eLD: The [dirs] makes sure ${WORKDIR} exists as a directory iirc Jan 29 13:46:56 Laibsch: I do not remember details - sorry Jan 29 13:47:02 I got new toy Jan 29 13:47:18 Well, I'll do as I please, then ;-) Jan 29 13:47:27 hello, i have a problem with poky's qemu...it didn't calibrate well the wacom-tablet and now i have more than 5cm of distance from where i click to where it's realy clicked...and on opie i did click on the right place during the caliration Jan 29 13:47:28 Which is what I had in mind, kind of ;-) Jan 29 13:48:11 GNUtoo: rm/etc/pointercal, then run xtscal to recalibrate Jan 29 13:48:32 RP, thanks i'll try that Jan 29 13:55:05 hmm, now I get indentation errors, tried to move the source in do_unpack_append() Jan 29 13:55:08 seems all very tricky Jan 29 13:57:39 doh Jan 29 13:59:53 ecos has really a crappy build system Jan 29 14:02:07 how can I prevent autoreconf from being run? an own oe_runconf seems not to be enough Jan 29 14:02:26 Jin^eLD: Make sure you use spaces to indent the python Jan 29 14:03:06 RP: I tried that too but somehow it did not work out, not sure why Jan 29 14:03:15 let me try again Jan 29 14:24:57 RP: funny thing, if I do do_unpack_append() I get an indent error, if I make a do_configure_prepend() out of it without changing the body, then it runs through Jan 29 14:26:33 hey all Jan 29 14:26:43 RP, as i have opie and it requires X it say "couldn't open display" Jan 29 14:26:45 for minor / irregular contributions, is a bugzilla entry and a GNU patch ok? Jan 29 14:26:52 Or do I need to figure out mtn stuff Jan 29 14:26:56 morning Jan 29 14:27:11 GNUtoo: Sorry, just remove the file and restart opie then Jan 29 14:27:23 Tartarus: Thats fine Jan 29 14:27:27 hi chouimat|work Jan 29 14:27:44 RP, that doesn't work...i've tried opie's calibration twice and it didn't work Jan 29 14:28:26 RP, k, thanks Jan 29 14:28:55 GNUtoo: You need to debug it then Jan 29 14:29:19 RP, how do i do that? what could be wrong the qemu? Jan 29 14:29:48 GNUtoo: It could equally be opie Jan 29 14:29:58 RP, ok Jan 29 14:30:22 GNUtoo: try one of poky's images, see if calibration works there Jan 29 14:30:32 RP, ok thanks Jan 29 14:30:35 GNUtoo: if so, its something about your image/opie, if not its qemu Jan 29 14:43:09 RP, it's opie...where should i bugreport? at oe or at opie? Jan 29 14:45:51 GNUtoo: first oe Jan 29 14:46:13 Laibsch, ok thanks Jan 29 14:46:23 although opie has also revived its used-to-be-dead bug tracker Jan 29 14:46:30 GNUtoo: What was the problem? Jan 29 14:46:38 calibration did not work in qemu? Jan 29 14:47:46 * XorA watches Laibsch stamp out bugs Jan 29 14:47:50 Laibsch, yes Jan 29 14:48:28 XorA: Join the fun! Jan 29 14:48:43 GNUtoo: Please prepare your report Jan 29 14:48:57 Let me try here (IIRC it worked about two weeks ago) Jan 29 14:52:58 With ipk, I can inspect their content, but how do I know whether or not a package has put any files under $staging? Jan 29 14:53:32 and what files? Jan 29 14:54:01 ipkg and staging dont meet Jan 29 14:55:18 XorA: My problem is that I want xapian (which was easily packaged) to provide some header files for inclusion to staging Jan 29 14:55:26 How do I know it did that? Jan 29 14:55:43 And what files did it put there with autotools_do_stage? Jan 29 14:56:25 autotools_stage_all will stick all .h and .so files in staging Jan 29 14:56:33 and libtool crap Jan 29 14:56:47 * RP is looking at an autotools_stage_all bug :/ Jan 29 14:56:58 I thought it would run make install, so it depends on what the autofoo does Jan 29 14:57:15 Laibsch: but until someone finishes packaged staging there is no real way to tell what ended up there Jan 29 14:57:25 which is basically what XorA said, except the autofoo writer could have added crap Jan 29 14:57:47 Crofton: I thought we did make install, then sifted out what we actually wanted Jan 29 14:58:11 hmm Jan 29 14:58:13 maybe Jan 29 14:58:21 I didn't read the code .... Jan 29 14:59:00 OK, let's get offline wikipedia Jan 29 15:02:39 geekounet :) Jan 29 15:02:54 http://bugs.openembedded.org/ seems down Jan 29 15:03:08 GNUtoo: you should know by now Jan 29 15:03:09 ah yes .net Jan 29 15:03:30 i don't have m Jan 29 15:03:32 oops Jan 29 15:03:37 i don't have much memory Jan 29 15:04:12 get an upgrade Jan 29 15:04:13 ;-) Jan 29 15:04:18 lol Jan 29 15:29:49 zecke: Your brute force fix to autotools.bbclass for the .la problem is horrible, I expected better from you! ;-) Jan 29 15:30:41 RP: maybe someone stole my key and password? I agree it is horrible, how did you notice it? Jan 29 15:31:17 zecke: Problems with .la files in poky, trying to fix autostage properly ;-) Jan 29 15:31:48 It oe_libinstall were called for all libs it would fix this Jan 29 15:38:27 Laibsch, which component should i choose? Jan 29 15:38:37 Laibsch, build or distributions? Jan 29 15:38:49 distributions Jan 29 15:39:11 I know the components of bugzilla are less than optimal Jan 29 15:39:16 thanks Jan 29 15:39:45 I consider anything that relates to a problem while building to build Jan 29 15:39:58 Anything that is wrong with the resulting ipk or image is distribution Jan 29 15:40:05 RP: which is a bit difficult as we call make install with a destdir set Jan 29 15:40:20 RP: we could write a wrapper 'install' script that sees libraries and fixes on the fly? Jan 29 15:45:35 thanks a lot and bye(i need to work now) Jan 29 15:51:04 * * OE Bug 3719 has been created by GNUtoo(AT)no-log.org Jan 29 15:51:06 * * calibration fails in opie under qemu Jan 29 15:51:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3719 Jan 29 15:51:34 zecke: we already iterate over the files in the libdir after the install process, the problem is we don't go into subdirs Jan 29 15:54:05 Is there any code in OE I could use or apply as is for creating a list of packages that are needed for installing package X? Jan 29 15:54:27 I want this for creating a feed containing only a subset of packages Jan 29 15:54:28 Laibsch: there is a pretend mode for ipkg Jan 29 15:54:36 Laibsch: so you could run that and log the output Jan 29 15:54:57 "-n" or "--dry-run"? Jan 29 15:55:09 Laibsch: possibly, I dont have a machine power up Jan 29 15:55:13 OK Jan 29 15:55:17 * XorA must get round to getting qemu-arm setup Jan 29 15:55:35 And then parse the ipk output for ipk names? Jan 29 15:55:43 That sounds doable. Jan 29 15:55:47 Thanks Jan 29 15:55:56 XorA: What about qemu? Jan 29 15:56:05 Laibsch: Ive no idea where to start :-) Jan 29 15:56:08 qemu on the host or qemu config in OE? Jan 29 15:56:27 Laibsch: run an image inside qemu on my amd64 Jan 29 15:56:27 XorA: Since I did this a short while ago, fire away with your questions Jan 29 15:56:43 Laibsch: since I sell/give away most of my machines as they bug me Jan 29 15:56:48 First, install poky-scripts from http://debian.o-hand.com Jan 29 15:57:08 XorA: Any first-gen Zaurus? Jan 29 15:57:20 Laibsch: 1st gen? Jan 29 15:57:27 XorA: What distro is on your host? Debian or Ubuntu? Jan 29 15:57:35 ubuntu Jan 29 15:57:36 XorA: sl-c7x0 Jan 29 15:57:40 XorA: Nice! Jan 29 15:57:44 Laibsch: already sold the sl-c7x0 Jan 29 15:57:47 OK Jan 29 15:57:52 Dosn't matter Jan 29 15:58:02 It was just out of curiousity Jan 29 15:58:12 havent sold the C3200 Jan 29 15:58:36 XorA: Why do they bug you? Jan 29 15:58:46 RP: get in my way lieing around Jan 29 15:59:14 RP: devices I use regularly are ok, ones I dont end up pissing me off after tripping over them Jan 29 15:59:14 XorA: ah Jan 29 15:59:23 XorA: deb http://debian.o-hand.com gutsy/ in /etc/apt/sources.list Jan 29 15:59:45 XorA: "deb http://debian.o-hand.com gutsy/" in /etc/apt/sources.list Jan 29 16:00:19 XorA: https://launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive, if you want to Jan 29 16:00:21 XorA: Your best bet for a qemu binary for amd64 is to bitbake qemu-native with OE Jan 29 16:00:44 XorA: Combined with the scripts Laibsch is pointing out Jan 29 16:00:52 Oh, 64-bit again being a problem? Jan 29 16:01:39 XorA: Then it just "poky-qemu $kernel $rootfs" r the other way round -> http://www.pokylinux.org Jan 29 16:01:48 hi zecke Jan 29 16:01:49 or the other way round Jan 29 16:02:38 Laibsch: RP cheers, I shall build an image and see what I can do to break it :-) Jan 29 16:02:56 qemu speeds up testing a lot Jan 29 16:03:06 albeit the program itself is SLOOOOOOWWW Jan 29 16:03:38 I remeber once firing up the openmoko qemu image and got very bored Jan 29 16:03:48 Someone should provide openmoko patches for poky's qemu scripts ;-) Jan 29 16:04:03 RP: you tried the android emulator? Jan 29 16:04:09 zecke: yes Jan 29 16:04:09 RP: did it feel faster as well? Jan 29 16:04:27 zecke: in some ways. yes Jan 29 16:04:51 zecke: I got poky to compile images for the android goldfish machine ;-) Jan 29 16:05:02 :-D Jan 29 16:05:12 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rf99b43a6... 10/ (1 packages/opie-ttf-support/opie-ttf-support_1.1.bb): opie-ttf-support: prepare for update-font-common. partly closes 2430. Jan 29 16:05:16 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rcfe5c40d... 10/ (1 packages/ttf-fonts/ttf.inc): ttf.inc: add RDEPENDS on font-update-common and call the update script in postinst/postrm. Partly closes 2430. Jan 29 16:05:18 give RP hardware virtual or not and poky runs on it 2 hours later :-D Jan 29 16:05:23 RP: I have seen it in the news/blogs Jan 29 16:05:28 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * raf80fae0... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fontconfig: prepare for font-update-common. Partly closes 2430. Jan 29 16:05:34 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r5923e876... 10/ (8 files in 2 dirs): ttf-fonts: some clean-up and PR bumping after introduction of font-update-common. Jan 29 16:05:41 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r9e69a72b... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): terminus: rename to qpf-terminus Jan 29 16:05:50 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r09904634... 10/ (8 files in 6 dirs): Jan 29 16:05:50 kxml2: Reworked to be build from source. Jan 29 16:05:50 xmlpull: Added recipe. Jan 29 16:05:56 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * rf0058581... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Jan 29 16:05:56 libxml2: Provide common include Jan 29 16:05:56 - added 2.6.27 recipe (for Maemo) Jan 29 16:05:56 - changed 2.6.29 recipe to use the include Jan 29 16:05:57 chinook-compat.conf: Jan 29 16:05:59 - fixed version preference for libxml2 Jan 29 16:06:07 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r00152e23... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): integrate qpf fonts into "font-update-common" framework. partly closes 2430. Jan 29 16:06:22 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r3622075c... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): qte-fonts-common: consolidate all qpf fonts in a single directory Jan 29 16:06:29 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rfcbf09b2... 10/ (20 files in 3 dirs): Jan 29 16:06:29 qpf-fonts: some major clean-up and bumping of PR after the "update-font-common" commits Jan 29 16:06:29 * unify Jan 29 16:06:29 * drop update-qtfontdir from qte-fonts-common, it is provided by qpf-font-common Jan 29 16:06:29 * replace dependencies on qte-fonts-common with qpf-font-common Jan 29 16:06:31 * rename qte-fonts-common_3.3.5 to qpf-qte_3.3.5 Jan 29 16:14:07 XorA: https://launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all Jan 29 16:17:00 hi, i get the error tn --db OE.mtn db migrate Jan 29 16:17:00 mtn: calculating necessary migration steps Jan 29 16:17:00 mtn: error: database schema 629da44000ed5d20e2fe6b4d3abc06bc06a91362 is unknown; cannot performmigration Jan 29 16:17:12 can anyone help me? Jan 29 16:18:03 sriram: Did you make any commits to your database? Jan 29 16:18:15 Any local changes to the workspace? Jan 29 16:18:17 no Jan 29 16:18:18 sriram: what is your mtn version? Jan 29 16:18:29 sriram: where did you get the database from? Jan 29 16:18:35 0.32 Jan 29 16:18:48 sriram: I think your easiest option is to download the database again and start over Jan 29 16:18:49 from openembedded.org Jan 29 16:18:56 You won't loose anything, but save a lot of time Jan 29 16:19:02 get a newer mtn version Jan 29 16:19:10 0.32 is positively ancient Jan 29 16:19:14 and slow Jan 29 16:19:57 it took me 4 hours to install mtn, mtn is really tough to install Jan 29 16:20:37 * XorA uses the static compiled version Jan 29 16:22:21 Laibsch: patches are failing to apply on launchpad Jan 29 16:22:36 im trying to get started with openembeded, are there any flv players available with OE for an arm based target? Jan 29 16:23:27 sriram: gnash Jan 29 16:23:33 sriram: or mplayer Jan 29 16:24:16 XorA: I'll try a local build first Jan 29 16:26:20 gnash works fine Jan 29 16:26:33 and i packaged it long time ago Jan 29 16:26:44 1 month of work , fighting with autotool Jan 29 16:27:06 but for flv player ,sure you better use mplayer Jan 29 16:27:37 ( flv was a missing feature last time i looked at gnash ) Jan 29 16:27:50 sriram : working fine for me on mx21 Jan 29 16:49:32 gnash needs gtk. isnt it? Jan 29 16:50:04 trying to get xine compiled Jan 29 16:53:13 XorA: what would you suggest as video player for maemo? Jan 29 16:58:45 hrw: the built in one seems to work ok to me Jan 29 17:00:37 unless you give him divx from samba share Jan 29 17:01:27 well its not a power beast, there is a script to re-encode Jan 29 17:01:39 hrw: or try maemo mplayer by our very own ssvb Jan 29 17:01:54 hi everybody Jan 29 17:02:00 hi The_Niz Jan 29 17:02:02 hi thesing Jan 29 17:02:07 wrong damn keys Jan 29 17:02:13 hi thesing Jan 29 17:02:20 thesing: collie is on a way to you Jan 29 17:02:28 great. Jan 29 17:02:44 XorA: mplayer from feed works if movie is on local storage Jan 29 17:03:12 hrw: then there is INDT player canola2 Jan 29 17:03:18 hrw: but I havent tried that Jan 29 17:04:27 cbrake: ping Jan 29 17:09:36 sriram : yeap gtk and agg Jan 29 17:09:42 to avoid opengl need Jan 29 17:10:20 i made a recipe for agg too Jan 29 17:11:07 jsheldon: hey Jim Jan 29 17:13:09 looking at something light weight Jan 29 17:13:21 cbrake: oh before I forget, thanks for the card :) Jan 29 17:13:34 jsheldon: sure :-) Jan 29 17:13:52 Genesis, are you talking about gnash? Jan 29 17:13:54 genesis: do you have a patch? Jan 29 17:14:09 cbrake: I was just playing around with the latest angstrom stable tree, and I built an x11 image for the cm-x270, I was just wondering if you had it working with the vga port Jan 29 17:14:45 jsheldon: I have not build an image for the stable tree and run X lately. Jan 29 17:14:54 jsheldon: is it working for you? Jan 29 17:14:56 GNUtoo : yeap Jan 29 17:14:57 cbrake: ok just wondering, I'll play around with it a bit Jan 29 17:15:04 all my work is on bug Jan 29 17:15:19 cbrake: out of the box I'm not getting anything over the vga port Jan 29 17:15:25 Genesis, wow does it work in a browser like konqueror embedded?(so we can see youtube videos) Jan 29 17:15:38 cbrake: it's not important, I'm just experimenting, I'll play with it and see if I can get it working Jan 29 17:15:48 GNUtoo : i tested oki with firefox embedded :) Jan 29 17:15:53 don't use OPIE ... Jan 29 17:15:57 thesing: I tested collie image Jan 29 17:16:00 jsheldon: ok, i'll try to load up a build when I get a chance -- way over due ... Jan 29 17:16:05 bye Jan 29 17:16:12 genesis: what is "on the bug"? Jan 29 17:16:14 Boots on first attempt, but fails on second Jan 29 17:16:14 cbrake: x11 forwarding is working though :) Jan 29 17:16:16 sorry Jan 29 17:16:22 thesing: Boots on first attempt, but fails on second Jan 29 17:16:31 thesing: serial console is dead Jan 29 17:16:50 sriram : on bugzilla Jan 29 17:17:05 on the bugtracker Jan 29 17:17:32 cbrake: my first hunch is that maybe it's configured for lvds, or something non-vga by default Jan 29 17:17:36 Laibsch: are you sure? it works for me here. (will pull, build a new image an try) Jan 29 17:17:58 thesing: It could always be Sonkei Jan 29 17:18:15 But the serial console does not show the kernel messages Jan 29 17:18:26 It is only on the display itself Jan 29 17:18:47 The darn thing still turns on regardless of power switch Jan 29 17:18:58 That'll soon kill my batteries Jan 29 17:19:19 Genesis, you mean minimo? Jan 29 17:20:04 it was for a prototype Jan 29 17:20:12 minimo was not pretty Jan 29 17:20:29 i putted a full firefox with some options disabled Jan 29 17:20:42 ah ok thanks Jan 29 17:20:56 Laibsch: well, suspend it ;) Thats the way it always worked. Jan 29 17:21:37 Genesis:try to locate your work on gnash. could you provide me some pointers? Jan 29 17:23:38 seems bugzilla is down Jan 29 17:23:50 Genesis: see topic Jan 29 17:24:13 oki Jan 29 17:24:25 i should remove my bugzilla plugin Jan 29 17:26:57 seems that my work has been removed Jan 29 17:28:18 http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1480 Jan 29 17:28:43 ------ Comment #4 From Koen Kooi 2007-06-16 12:52:23 ------- Jan 29 17:28:43 a cairo based gnash 0.8.0 is now in OE Jan 29 17:28:47 cairo is too slow . Jan 29 17:31:13 and gnash 0.8.1 is faster than 0.8.0 and there is a bb for it file in the cvs of gnash Jan 29 17:31:23 yeap Jan 29 17:31:30 but it's 2000bugs latter :) Jan 29 17:31:34 can it play alsa sound? Jan 29 17:34:11 heh http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2-book.html Jan 29 17:34:21 search for bitbake there ;) Jan 29 17:35:54 i should really test T2 Jan 29 17:35:54 Someone should enlighten Rene about oe and bb a little bit :-) Jan 29 17:36:31 Actually I think he is a nice guy, but that comparison is bullshit. Jan 29 17:36:32 florian: it is better to not try it Jan 29 17:36:46 why he said it's propriatary ? Jan 29 17:37:01 florian: he was not too pleasant to deal with in #openmoko Jan 29 17:37:16 zecke: oh, tell me more Jan 29 17:37:38 zecke: I met him at cebit some years ago, they had a booth next to gpe. Jan 29 17:37:55 florian: he might have had a bad day Jan 29 17:38:59 ~lart kexec to NOT starting the kernel Jan 29 17:39:00 * ibot DoSes kexec to NOT starting the kernel Jan 29 17:39:07 :) Jan 29 17:39:38 hrm... is the svn fetcher supposed to work with ssh-agent? Jan 29 17:40:24 florian: ssh agent is transparent to the fetcher Jan 29 17:40:40 bye! Jan 29 17:41:28 zecke: ok, then my SRC_URI is bad Jan 29 17:53:37 balls glibc 2.6.1 doesnt generate locals :-( Jan 29 17:55:51 i've included require conf/distro/include/preferred-opie-versions-1.2.3.inc to my local.conf and now when opie start it has got a black screen with a - at the top left... Jan 29 17:56:01 (and i've rebuilt opie-image) Jan 29 18:02:28 bonne soirée Jan 29 18:06:36 heh -> Holy War! Researchers say EEs have a 'terrorist mindset' Jan 29 18:06:45 http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205920319 Jan 29 18:07:20 i knew i was right about not starting discussions about things like distro,editor and SCM.... Jan 29 18:07:42 zecke: on the subject of the svn fetcher, the current version seems not to work with gconf-dbus_svn.bb. Do you know if the way it constructs the svn commandline has changed recently? Jan 29 18:08:09 pb__: didn't change Jan 29 18:08:32 how odd. It seems fairly hard to believe that the .bb file has just plain never worked, but I guess it's possible. Jan 29 18:09:22 maybe the repository layout has changed in some way that stops it working. that doesn't seem terribly likely either, though maybe it's a bit more plausible. Jan 29 18:11:10 pb__: the URI looks sane and IIRC imendio changed their svn layout... Jan 29 18:11:34 zecke: hm, it looks like svn.py did change in revision 855 Jan 29 18:11:56 one of the things that is upsetting it is that for some reason the fetcher now sticks "-r 1" in the command line. It doesn't look like it used to do that. Jan 29 18:13:06 pb__: -r comes fromt he AUTOREV handling Jan 29 18:13:11 pb__: -r 1 Jan 29 18:13:20 the other issue is that the URI it constructs seems to end with ".../gconf-dbus" whereas apparently the imendio repository wants ".../trunk". Jan 29 18:13:36 XorA: what's AUTOREV? Jan 29 18:13:37 pb__: set SRCREV_pn = "${AUTOREV}" and it will fetch the latest Jan 29 18:14:01 pb__: by default therefore we fetch rev 1 to stop OE accessing network until we tell it Jan 29 18:14:26 when i run mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev i still get the error "mtn: error: database schema 629da44000ed5d20e2fe6b4d3abc06bc06a91362 is unknown; cannot perform migration" Jan 29 18:14:28 pb__: see sane-srcrevs.inc and insane-srcrevs.inc Jan 29 18:14:38 ok Jan 29 18:14:44 that sounds a bit odd but I guess there is a reason for it Jan 29 18:14:46 XorA: thanks Jan 29 18:14:58 bbl, gotta go to the pub now Jan 29 18:15:07 pb__: its been quite a requested feature for OE to build without network access Jan 29 18:15:18 pb__: so the new handling was the solution Jan 29 18:15:26 How do I deal with http://rafb.net/p/5gdsHP28.html? I already looked at configure.ac, but grepping for 2 and 5 leads to nothing Jan 29 18:15:36 pb__: but also allow you to always build svn HEAD Jan 29 18:16:19 bye guys, Jan 29 18:16:24 * zecke sets up his beamer :) Jan 29 18:17:48 Laibsch: did you grep only for the version number ? Jan 29 18:18:30 thesing: |grep 2|grep 9 Jan 29 18:19:44 could you paste configure.ac? Jan 29 18:21:15 Laibsch: rschuster is probably the man to ask, he is the java expert :-) Jan 29 18:21:32 I am trying to help him out here Jan 29 18:23:34 thesing: /work/tmp/sonkei-0.0.1/work/armv5te-sonkei-linux-gnueabi/kaffe-qt-1.1.4+cvs20060814-r0/kaffe Jan 29 18:23:34 Laibsch: run ./developer/autogen.sh first Jan 29 18:23:36 zecke: :-) Jan 29 18:23:44 thesing: http://pastebin.com/f5ecf562a Jan 29 18:23:49 rschuster: OK Jan 29 18:23:50 Laibsch: kaffe oddity Jan 29 18:23:54 Thanks Jan 29 18:25:03 rschuster: do_configure_prepend() { Jan 29 18:25:03 rm -f m4/libtool.m4 Jan 29 18:25:03 ./developers/autogen.sh Jan 29 18:25:03 } Jan 29 18:25:20 maybe there is an 's' too many Jan 29 18:25:40 no, there is not Jan 29 18:25:46 it is developers Jan 29 18:28:44 rschuster: calling autogen.sh directly from workdir leads to http://pastebin.com/f2ccfe0d4 Jan 29 18:31:18 Laibsch: autotools fun! Jan 29 18:31:34 yes, dalibor lets kaffe depend on automake 1.10 Jan 29 18:31:44 you probably need to patch some stuff away Jan 29 18:32:25 rschuster: Have you ever built kaffe-qt? Jan 29 18:33:11 Laibsch: no Jan 29 18:33:22 Laibsch: I only tried the gtk variant from CVS Jan 29 18:34:02 there are also some recipes in jalimo SVN which work for pretty new (2008) cvs snapshots. but kaffe is still very unstable Jan 29 18:34:14 I am planning to merge this into OE when kaffe releases 1.1.9 Jan 29 18:36:20 help, I don't know what I am doing! :( Jan 29 18:36:40 I have plenty of files in tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/arm-oabi Jan 29 18:36:59 but, tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/arm-oabi/Packages.filelist is empty Jan 29 18:37:17 I think it has to do with some ARCH thing? Jan 29 18:37:58 I assume that the image builder (bootstrap-image) reads from the Packages.filelist to construct the rootfs? Jan 29 18:38:31 Should I be asking this here or over on #angstrom ? Jan 29 18:52:11 i have downloaded the latest snapshot OE.mtn for oe site. doesnt it work with montone-0.32 Jan 29 18:55:53 sriram, can you upgrade mtn, that is pretty old Jan 29 18:57:42 okay Jan 29 19:00:04 .38 here .... Jan 29 19:00:10 use later if available Jan 29 19:06:14 rschuster: JFTR, kaffe-gtk fails to build here, too. Jan 29 19:08:37 Laibsch: http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3697 Jan 29 19:09:50 RP: should there be no -rpath settings sent to the linker in OE? Jan 29 19:15:33 i am trying to fill the local.conf file. i am providing my own toolchain. what should i fill in machine type? Jan 29 19:16:04 i am using arm and toolchain is from code-sourcery, my toolchain prefix is arm-none-linux-gnueabi- Jan 29 19:26:03 thesing: A hanging machine of course cannot be supended, so there is a difference Jan 29 19:26:08 I have two hung machines Jan 29 19:27:59 cbrake: just another quick cm-x270 X question, do you remember if X worked out of the box, or did you have to tweak a file or two? Jan 29 19:40:40 gm zecke Jan 29 19:40:51 Laibsch: I just build a console image: serial console works, and machine boots fine (tried reset twice) Jan 29 19:41:29 my NES is working on my brand new beamer :) Jan 29 19:48:05 hello, wesnoth fails to compile: http://pastebin.com/m35325236 should i bugreport? Jan 29 19:49:00 oops...made ctrl+w thinking it was firefox Jan 29 19:54:38 XorA|gone: With sysroot you don't want that set (poky), without sysroot (OE) you do Jan 29 19:55:00 XorA|gone: Although its different for native/sdk/cross packages Jan 29 20:04:13 * steliosK__ fires up tailor to do an mtn2svn conversion test and keeps fingers crossed Jan 29 20:04:39 will crash :) Jan 29 20:06:58 chouimat|work : have you tried 0.9.30 ? Jan 29 20:07:07 no Jan 29 20:09:34 steliosK__: this will not work, what do you try to do? Jan 29 20:10:27 zecke : testing to see if i can get an automated way to convert monotone to our svn and vise versa Jan 29 20:10:47 steliosK__: use the git mirror for it, converting back will be difficult Jan 29 20:11:09 zecke : previous versions failed, but my bug report was closed as fixed Jan 29 20:11:12 i have another problem...i built supertux and it wasn't added to Packages in /oe/tmp/deploy/glibc/armv5te/ Jan 29 20:12:27 zecke : someone from the #mklinux channel who wanted to try OE for an fpga project he had, told me a few minutes ago that had issues with the git repo Jan 29 20:12:41 GNUtoo: bitbake package-index to update the package index Jan 29 20:12:50 RP, thanks a lot Jan 29 20:12:59 zecke : does the git repo get updated ? Jan 29 20:13:01 steliosK__: I take the angstrom philosophy, everything I do not know regarding the git mirror does not exist Jan 29 20:13:09 jsheldon: I seem to recall on my last cm-x270, OE would not work for some reason Jan 29 20:13:13 jsheldon: trying now ... Jan 29 20:13:15 steliosK__: not automatically but ~daily Jan 29 20:13:24 steliosK__: and at least otavio can use it to work Jan 29 20:15:49 cbrake: ok no worries, I'm just playing around, I just realized that the upstream Xserver has cases for the cm-x270 that aren't part of 2007.12 http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/Xserver Jan 29 20:16:05 cbrake: so I built the mbxfb module and I'm about to try it now... Jan 29 20:16:21 zecke : have you tried a recent version of tailor and failed ? Jan 29 20:18:08 steliosk: no, the approach of tailor is wrong (from a git point of view) Jan 29 20:18:29 steliosk: tailor, AFAIK, works on checking out a revision and checking it in into mtn Jan 29 20:18:41 steliosk: my mtn2git script works differently, it converts the history Jan 29 20:19:27 zecke: hey there. Seems you were looking for me yesterday Jan 29 20:19:34 zecke: can I help you with something? Jan 29 20:19:42 jsheldon: I have never used the mbxfb driver as everything I have done has been "L" modules - not graphics accel Jan 29 20:20:05 cbrake: ah ok Jan 29 20:21:51 zecke : I am mostly interested in mtn2svn so i can keep our local svn in sync .dev. The other way svn2mtn is not that hard to do "manual" Jan 29 20:22:33 steliosk: if tailor is working, go for it, if it blows up (it will, by nature) take the extra route of git-svn on top of the mirror Jan 29 20:23:04 mtn->git->svn.... wow :) Jan 29 20:23:49 steliosk: mtn2git is working and git-svn too, but try tailor first Jan 29 20:24:21 * steliosk thinks that zecke is either a pessimist or knows more :) Jan 29 20:25:24 jsheldon: with xserver-kdrive-fbdev (1:1.3.0.0-r21), I get http://pastebin.ca/880496 Jan 29 20:25:44 jsheldon: so there must be something new that I need to do to get Xfbdev going Jan 29 20:25:46 cbrake: yeah that's what I saw Jan 29 20:26:36 cbrake: if you have the time that'd be great, thanks for trying it out Jan 29 20:26:47 jsheldon: 1:1.3.0.0-r19 seems to work fine on another project/build, so I'm not sure what changed Jan 29 20:27:25 jsheldon: some of the other X libs may be different versions though Jan 29 20:27:45 cbrake: ah, fun! ;) Jan 29 20:42:42 what do i need to do to run supertux in qemu? it complain about the video device http://pastebin.com/m49cc0ab2 Jan 29 20:56:27 how do i prevent OE from building a toolchain and libc libraries Jan 29 20:56:55 i have a pre-built toolchain, how do i make OE to take it instead of building a toolchain Jan 29 20:57:21 re Jan 29 20:57:21 sriram, do you also have external kernel? Jan 29 20:57:39 hi pb Jan 29 20:57:47 hi woglinde Jan 29 20:57:58 yes i do, but i will let OE build it for me Jan 29 20:57:59 sriram its in the docs Jan 29 20:58:11 how to use oe with external toolchain Jan 29 20:58:46 sriram, http://bec-systems.com/web/content/view/56/9/ Jan 29 20:59:58 sriram, sharprom-compatible does that http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/UsefulConfigurations Jan 29 21:00:57 okay, Jan 29 21:01:29 by the way what should i do if i've a black screen with - at the top left instead of opie in angstrom bugreport? Jan 29 21:01:56 gnutoo? Jan 29 21:02:18 woglinde, yes? Jan 29 21:02:27 cant understand the problem Jan 29 21:02:57 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1582dfee... 10/ (1 packages/efl1/edb_cvs.bb): edb cvs fix PV Jan 29 21:03:05 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r567d05bb... 10/ (23 files in 5 dirs): efl: update to 20080129, fix some LICENSE entries, enable software-x11-16 engine again Jan 29 21:03:38 woglinde, i made an opie-image with the correct include for opie-1.2.3 in the angstrom distro...it boots fine but instead of starting opie i have a black screen... Jan 29 21:03:59 gnutoo ah Jan 29 21:04:18 can you ssh to the device? Jan 29 21:04:26 woglinde, yes i have serial console Jan 29 21:04:51 did you see the splashscreen? Jan 29 21:05:18 woglinde, if it's the angstrom boot screen yes Jan 29 21:05:26 okay Jan 29 21:05:31 is qpe running now? Jan 29 21:06:08 no Jan 29 21:07:10 then try to start an opie app from the console Jan 29 21:07:28 with -qws and -no-daemon Jan 29 21:07:46 re pb Jan 29 21:09:00 The problem is the layout of my toolchain does not conform to the document in OE Jan 29 21:09:55 woglinde, -no-daemon doesn't work for opie-console Jan 29 21:10:04 gnutoo hm Jan 29 21:10:15 qt_init() - starting in daemon mode... Jan 29 21:10:20 then it was something else Jan 29 21:10:27 with -no-daemon Jan 29 21:10:43 and is the opie-console showing? Jan 29 21:10:50 mp Jan 29 21:10:51 oops Jan 29 21:10:52 no Jan 29 21:13:15 hm -no-demon Jan 29 21:13:21 -nodemon Jan 29 21:13:24 hms Jan 29 21:14:52 woglinde, http://pastebin.com/m57683a5a Jan 29 21:15:30 gnuto by the way which machine and which libc and so on you are using? Jan 29 21:15:53 woglinde, qemu and angstrom's glibc Jan 29 21:16:06 hm Jan 29 21:16:28 whats happening when you start /etc/init.d/qpe start Jan 29 21:16:59 there is no such file... Jan 29 21:17:09 mabe it starts S99opie Jan 29 21:17:10 ? Jan 29 21:18:22 hm that shoud be a link to /etc/init.d/opie Jan 29 21:18:27 than Jan 29 21:18:44 maybee something went wrong with the installation Jan 29 21:18:54 or some packages are missing Jan 29 21:19:07 http://pastebin.com/m5e17cb0 Jan 29 21:19:24 it's opie 1.2.3 (opie without that include worked fine) Jan 29 21:19:31 (but the pointer calibration) Jan 29 21:19:52 so its works now? Jan 29 21:20:02 no it worked before Jan 29 21:21:05 before i added the include following what they told me here: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpieWithAngstrom Jan 29 21:21:50 yes Jan 29 21:21:52 mhhh why bluetooth is so annoing :( ... machine features don't have bluetooth but it's build (ok) but image fail caise no bluetoothe modules are build on kernel ... grrrrrrr Jan 29 21:22:57 there's a way to override "unsatisfied recommendation" ?!?!? Jan 29 21:25:44 hm, stupid xchat, why's it connected twice? Jan 29 21:26:29 pb dont know Jan 29 21:27:10 oh well Jan 29 21:30:06 woglinde, what should i do? build a more recent version of opie? Jan 29 21:33:31 gnutoo dont know Jan 29 21:33:37 you could try uclibc Jan 29 21:41:34 zecke : tailor first faze is over, now its adding the commits... but it will take sometime (probably all night) from the speed i see them get added Jan 29 21:50:03 opie-1.2.4 fails to build: http://pastebin.com/m43bb7898 Jan 29 21:50:10 i got "task-distro-base: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-ext2" but on my kernel ext2 is builtin the kernel ... how i can solve ??? Jan 29 21:50:36 gremlin[it]: That shouldn't be fatal Jan 29 21:50:47 hi rp Jan 29 21:51:09 hi woglinde Jan 29 21:52:02 mhh ok ... t end i got this error "Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-base-extended: Jan 29 21:52:02 | base-passwd busybox initscripts modutils-initscripts netbase udev sysvinit sysvinit-pidof tinylogin module-init-tools-depmod ipkg ipkg-collateral util-linux-mount util-linux-umount dropbear udev sysfsutils module-init-tools pcmciautils hostap-utils usbutils portmap ppp ppp-dialin wireless-tools hostap-utils wpa-supplicant blueprobe bluez-utils bluez-utils-compat" Jan 29 21:52:04 * * OE Bug 3720 has been created by GNUtoo(AT)no-log.org Jan 29 21:52:06 * * opie 1.2.3 fails to start (black screen) under qemu Jan 29 21:52:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3720 Jan 29 21:53:48 but all packages are present in deploy/glibc/ipk .. Jan 29 21:59:03 what should i do for opie 1.2.4 build faillure bugreport? Jan 29 22:17:39 i get the error: sh: oe_sha256sum: command not found as a result of which the md5 checksums are not matched and build breaks Jan 29 22:17:44 could anyone help me on this Jan 29 22:18:11 GNUtoo: opie-1.2.4 need a newer source date Jan 29 22:18:53 xjqian, you mean that i must upgrade my files with mtn update? Jan 29 22:20:32 GNUtoo: OPIE_SRCDATE ?= "20080127" Jan 29 22:21:06 GNUtoo: the 200707xx date is too old, a lot have been fixed in opie cvs tree Jan 29 22:21:35 xjqian, ok thanks a lot Jan 29 22:31:12 why does one get the error oe_sha256sum: command not found, i think this executable should be built automatically? Jan 29 22:34:08 sriram: You'll need to install the sha256sum command locally Jan 29 22:35:06 On debian-derived distros, it should be in coreutils Jan 29 22:35:41 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * ra1e79770... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): bluez: add missing patch for -utils-3.24 Jan 29 22:49:32 xjqian, opie-datebook doesn't compile...what should i do? http://pastebin.com/me7761f7 Jan 29 22:51:33 GNUtoo: don't know, never happened to me Jan 29 22:52:05 xjqian, what OPIE_SRCDATE do you have? i could try the same as you Jan 29 22:52:39 GNUtoo: 20080127 Jan 29 22:52:49 strange... Jan 29 22:53:01 GNUtoo: do a -c rebuild Jan 29 22:53:09 ok Jan 29 22:54:08 rebuild of opie-datebook? Jan 29 22:56:19 yeah Jan 29 22:56:59 Does anyone know a fix for an "install: cannot run strip: No such file or directory" error in do_populate_staging of qemu-native-0.9.1-r5 (building for OpenMoko)? I see a "files/no-strip.patch" for a previous qemu version, suggesting this is a somewhat-known issue. Jan 29 22:57:05 fails the same way even with -c clean then bitbake opie-datebook Jan 29 22:59:41 re Jan 29 23:00:34 mmontour: Install strip? :) Jan 29 23:01:43 SRCREV is so much better than SRCDATE Jan 29 23:02:06 my remark is not realted to the opie discussion ... Jan 29 23:03:34 can I use include in local.conf? Jan 29 23:08:24 NAbyss: I should have added to my original post "Yes, I do have a working /usr/bin/strip on my host system". Jan 29 23:14:06 xjqian, with today's revision it compiled Jan 29 23:31:17 i dont want an ipkg-build, how do i disable that in OE. i get the error: ipkg-build: command not found Jan 29 23:55:10 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r013b42d9... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Jan 29 23:55:10 glibc 2.5, 2.6.1: Jan 29 23:55:10 * check for updated resolv.conf before a nameserver call (see debian bug #272265) Jan 29 23:55:10 * remove bogus executable attribute for patch Jan 29 23:55:10 * clean up ugly mixing of tabs and spaces Jan 30 00:02:46 ahhhrrrrggg...... not a glibc re-build Jan 30 00:03:56 OT: anybody ever used apex in LE mode on an ixp42x board? (Slug) Jan 30 00:05:09 If not, can somebody confirm if the linux kernel (arm) sets the proper endianess at startup or not? Jan 30 00:07:57 what address should be assigned to the variable CVS_TARBALL_STASH in local.conf file Jan 30 00:10:37 i tried with http://www.oesources.org/source/current/, i think the oesources.org site is down Jan 30 00:13:09 VoodooZ_: the linux kernel assumes the processor is running with the correct endianness. it's the bootloader's responsibility to set it Jan 30 00:14:49 rwhitby: makes sense.. Jan 30 00:15:28 * VoodooZ_ wishes he could read ARM assembly... Jan 30 00:19:39 did libusb change name to openusb btw? Jan 30 00:22:04 is there any bb file which will give me filesystem with only xwindows/kdrive and matchbox Jan 30 00:27:43 and AUTOREV is really painful :) Jan 30 00:30:34 tripod123_: take a look at minimal-gpe-image Jan 30 00:34:45 was it angstrom-le or be (EABI) that still had problems with libusb? Jan 30 01:04:22 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * r052de5fb... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: add my entry Jan 30 01:04:26 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * r69b3066d... 10/ (1 packages/chumby packages/chumby/chumby-firmware_1.2.bb): Jan 30 01:04:26 chumby-firmware: package upstream firmware for a future kexec initramfs Jan 30 01:04:26 The initramfs will be able to run the factory default rootfs. Jan 30 01:07:38 anyone helpful around? Jan 30 01:08:25 There's me, but I'm useless. :) Jan 30 01:09:53 oh Jan 30 01:10:27 I'm trying to create a bb file from scratch, trying to get apcupsd for openslug via openembedded, but i'm getting an error during compilation that i don't understand Jan 30 01:11:12 the only tip I can give you is to reverse-engineer a small existing package... Jan 30 01:11:39 If the apcupsd source uses autotools it should be "easy" Jan 30 01:12:11 VoodooZ_: hm, ok Jan 30 01:12:25 how can i tell if it uses autotools? Jan 30 01:13:36 if the readme/install file tells you to do the usual configure, make, make install... Jan 30 01:37:25 VoodooZ_: it fails at the link step Jan 30 01:38:27 yeah, that's where I ran into problems too. I'm only a beginner so I can't really help you much further unfortunately... Jan 30 01:39:07 try to find a simple package that uses autotools as an example.. Jan 30 01:52:03 03osas 07org.oe.dev * rb62c974e... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): stunnel promoted for slugos Jan 30 01:52:08 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * ra6d2d41d... 10/ (1 packages/db/db_4.3.29.bb): db_4.3.29: fix packaging QA **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 30 02:59:56 2008