**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 31 02:59:56 2008 Jan 31 03:19:41 Hi, I just successfully booted angstromle on my slug and was wondering if there's a script or tool to setup booting from a usb flash disk? Jan 31 03:23:33 Oh, and just for documentation purposes, when I started top (could happen elsewhere too) I get lots of those: Alignment trap: top (916) PC=0x0004e7ec Instr=0xe1ca05d8 Address=0x000876bc FSR 0x013 Jan 31 04:06:31 VoodooZ_: install the rootfs.tar.gz file on the the harddisk, then use apex-env to modify the kernel cmdline to boot from it. Jan 31 04:07:07 Note that you will need a kernel with the appropriate drivers built in. The ixp4xx kernel (note ixp4xx, not nslu2) in OE has these built in for this reason. Jan 31 04:37:43 rwhitby: wouldn't that be slower though (decompressing the tar.gz)? Jan 31 05:32:02 VoodooZ_: the .tar.gz is only decompressed once when you install the rootfs on the disk Jan 31 05:46:45 rwhitby : hi ! Jan 31 05:47:16 steliosk: g'day Jan 31 05:48:15 rwhitby : haven't seen you on irc for a while. How are things going ? Jan 31 05:48:41 steliosk: I'm always here (well, at least my IRC proxy is ...) Jan 31 05:48:54 rwhitby : hehe Jan 31 05:48:57 at this time of the day I'm working though Jan 31 05:51:03 rwhitby : you are east coast or west coast ? Jan 31 05:51:24 neither Jan 31 05:51:49 Adelaide, Australia Jan 31 05:52:10 rwhitby : i thought you were in the US.... Jan 31 05:52:51 * rwhitby could think of a number of jokes about why he shouldn't be mistaken for someone in the US, but refrains ... Jan 31 05:53:05 hehe Jan 31 05:54:24 rwhitby : btw do you know of any NAS device that can support 2 IDE (or SATA) drives and has also audio output ? Jan 31 05:56:44 does a usb audio stick count? Jan 31 05:57:47 rwhitby : I was trying to find an "all-in-one" box Jan 31 05:58:46 I know of no NAS box with audio out. Jan 31 05:58:59 (unless you just use a normal PC) Jan 31 06:00:00 no i am looking for something low power/embedded and small in size (relative to a pc) Jan 31 07:13:51 good morning Jan 31 07:14:42 how do I compile something like http://users.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/quickstartindex.cc? "make quickstartindex.cc"? Jan 31 07:41:07 http://rafb.net/p/zNJovX31.html is where I am currently at, but I am sure that lacks Jan 31 07:41:13 It also does not yet compile ;-) Jan 31 07:44:25 morning Jan 31 07:46:40 hi Jan 31 07:48:34 my md5 checksum fail, when it tries to compile the kernel. how to i make OE to start all over again Jan 31 07:49:06 is there any way i can clean the stuff bitbake created when it started to compile the kernel Jan 31 07:50:42 ashu: you can try to clean the kernel target Jan 31 07:51:01 bitbake -c clean linux Jan 31 07:51:41 and if you want to fetch again you can try bitbake -f -c fetch linux Jan 31 07:59:57 good morning Jan 31 08:00:10 Is there any way i can specify the linux version and bb file i want OE to use Jan 31 08:00:48 XorA: Can you give me a hand? Jan 31 08:00:55 I just committed xapian-core Jan 31 08:00:56 * XorA claps Jan 31 08:01:05 That was two hands ;-) Jan 31 08:01:08 I only need one Jan 31 08:01:14 oh :-( Jan 31 08:01:26 I now want to compile xapian-quickstartindex Jan 31 08:02:28 http://rafb.net/p/yipDRP52.html is my current bb Jan 31 08:02:49 not pretty, but most importantly not working: http://rafb.net/p/AB9IXe50.html Jan 31 08:02:57 Something wrong with the include files it seems Jan 31 08:03:10 xapian.h has been staged by xapian-core Jan 31 08:03:33 ${CC} ${CFLAGS} instead of gcc Jan 31 08:03:33 /home/laibsch/work/tmp/sonkei-0.0.1/staging/arm-sonkei-linux-gnueabi/include/xapian.h Jan 31 08:03:39 OK Jan 31 08:03:45 So much for beautifying Jan 31 08:03:54 and probably ${LDFLAGS} Jan 31 08:03:56 Will that already take care of the include? Jan 31 08:04:01 OK, I'll try Jan 31 08:04:03 Thanks Jan 31 08:04:17 ${CFLAGS} should have -I${STAGING_INCDIR} Jan 31 08:04:21 to pull in include Jan 31 08:04:47 OK, let's have a try Jan 31 08:04:58 .cc would also indicate C++ source Jan 31 08:05:01 morning Jan 31 08:05:13 good morning! Jan 31 08:05:31 XorA: cc anything special to worry about for c++? Jan 31 08:05:54 ${CXX} as compiler probably, I cant remeber offhand what OE uses Jan 31 08:06:01 and ${CXXFLAGS} Jan 31 08:06:09 but you would have to check them in bitbake.conf Jan 31 08:06:37 I would not understand Jan 31 08:06:42 http://rafb.net/p/rHRC1G63.html Jan 31 08:06:50 with CFLAGS and CC Jan 31 08:07:48 yeah its C++ Jan 31 08:08:09 so CXX stuff instead of CC Jan 31 08:08:14 http://rafb.net/p/Gq6vJd20.html for CXX Jan 31 08:08:21 I'll rgrep for the strings Jan 31 08:08:58 missing a -lxapian Jan 31 08:09:07 or whatever the xapian libfile is called Jan 31 08:10:43 /home/laibsch/work/tmp/sonkei-0.0.1/staging/arm-sonkei-linux-gnueabi/include/xapian Jan 31 08:10:52 thus -lxapian? Jan 31 08:11:29 Laibsch: staging/arm-sonkei-linux-gnueabi/lib/lib.so.* Jan 31 08:11:49 Laibsch: or whatever xapian puts in lib directory Jan 31 08:11:57 XorA: Nothing like that Jan 31 08:12:01 but does not matter Jan 31 08:12:07 NOTE: package xapian-quickstartindex-1.0: completed Jan 31 08:12:10 YEAH! Jan 31 08:12:21 -lxapian did it Jan 31 08:12:44 so there is a staging/arm-sonkei-linux-gnueabi/lib/libxapian.so Jan 31 08:13:30 Wait, you might be right Jan 31 08:13:36 I had searched for xapian* Jan 31 08:13:43 will retry for *xapian* Jan 31 08:13:47 thats what -lxapian looks for :-) Jan 31 08:14:04 /home/laibsch/work/tmp/sonkei-0.0.1/staging/arm-sonkei-linux-gnueabi/lib/libxapian.so Jan 31 08:14:09 Yes, you were right Jan 31 08:14:24 Now, I have to fix packaging and this baby will be ready Jan 31 08:17:17 The binary also seems unstripped Jan 31 08:17:19 why is that? Jan 31 08:18:31 Laibsch: it gets stripped on packaging Jan 31 08:20:24 OK Jan 31 08:25:16 XorA: The file is still not stripped Jan 31 08:26:57 Laibsch: Cannot find font definition file /usr/lib/opie/lib/fonts/fontdir - is $QTDIR set correctly? Jan 31 08:27:24 What do you mean? Jan 31 08:27:28 Laibsch: Which package supplies the fonts for opie? Jan 31 08:27:32 font-update-common? Jan 31 08:27:39 Laibsch: ok Jan 31 08:27:43 No, wait Jan 31 08:27:53 That was not an answer to your last question Jan 31 08:28:07 Look in packages/qpf-fonts/ for opie fonts Jan 31 08:28:19 the default should be easy to spot Jan 31 08:28:33 or "ipkg list_installed qpf*" Jan 31 08:29:53 XorA: How does http://rafb.net/p/xcQ9kb75.html look to you? Jan 31 08:30:06 Apart from the fact the binary is unstripped? Jan 31 08:30:59 instead of cd ${WORKDIR} you could always ${S}=$WORKDIR Jan 31 08:31:11 instead of cd ${WORKDIR} you could always ${S} = ${WORKDIR} Jan 31 08:31:27 hmmm.... opie image for qemu has no qpf files installed.... Jan 31 08:31:32 with the quotes I still forgot :-) Jan 31 08:31:57 Im not sure why binary isnt stripped, I thought that was done on packaging to make the -dbg packages Jan 31 08:34:00 Hi... Can anyone tell me how to use external toolchain? Jan 31 08:35:09 which toolchain have you got? Jan 31 08:35:36 i tried yesterday with codesourcery, i couldnot make it work Jan 31 08:35:48 but it straightaway worked with cross tools Jan 31 08:39:24 I have avr32 toolchain from atmel. Jan 31 08:40:20 it includes compiler (gcc and friends), linker, as, .... Jan 31 08:42:29 I don't know how to tell bitbake to use this toolchain (installed on PATH).... Jan 31 08:43:05 * hrw has no idea about avr32 Jan 31 08:50:10 how do i make oe from taking a specified version of the kernel Jan 31 08:54:38 Kleckse : OE's avr32 toolchain works (minor issues). for external toolchain -> http://bec-systems.com/web/content/view/56/9/ Jan 31 08:59:07 yes I know... this minor issue is that the kernel fails to link, right? Jan 31 08:59:41 I'm playing around with it, but I couldn't get a workaround... Jan 31 09:00:45 Kleckse: the workaround I heard was to use the linker from external toolchain Jan 31 09:01:04 Kleckse : don't use the OE kernel or use external linker. Jan 31 09:01:37 Yes... That's exactly the point where I am at the moment..... Jan 31 09:02:12 I tried to use an external linker, but stupid me doesn't now how to do this correctly ;-) Jan 31 09:08:04 * * OE Bug 3725 has been created by simon(AT)simonloewen.com Jan 31 09:08:06 * * Socket Rugged CF Ethernet 10/100 card with AX88790 L chip Jan 31 09:08:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3725 Jan 31 09:23:36 my build is not taking kernel headers eventhough i find kernel is getting compiled, is there any way i need to specify for packages to take the header files Jan 31 09:28:59 I have an external linker installed. It is on my PATH (/usr/bin). How do I tell OE to use this one? Jan 31 09:30:22 and which one should I take (avr32-ld or avr32-linux-ld)? Both are same version, but file size (of executable) differs... Jan 31 09:40:08 I trying to build a xwindows and matchbox, however the packages need kernel headers and those builds are failing even though the kernel has compiled sucessfully Jan 31 09:40:30 do i need to specify anywhere to take kernel headers as well Jan 31 09:43:49 Kleckse : avr32-linux-ld Jan 31 09:44:04 Kleckse : the other is for standalone apps running on the avr32 Jan 31 09:47:24 currently I am trying: define ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/${TARGET_PREFIC}ld in local.conf and add export LD="/usr/bin/avr32-linux-ld" to the same file Jan 31 09:47:53 just restarted bitbake with this config... Is this the way to do this? Jan 31 10:04:27 Kleckse : No. read the example in the link i gave you Jan 31 10:04:59 Kleckse : You can not use export or other similar functions from within local.conf Jan 31 10:06:20 Kleckse : export meaning the path Jan 31 10:07:00 Kleckse : The path to the toolchain must be exported when you do the enviroment setup Jan 31 10:07:28 Kleckse : in local.conf you only export what to use for LD etc Jan 31 10:08:36 The example is what I base my current try on... Jan 31 10:09:07 it has some export (e.g CC, CXX, CPP, LD) in local.conf... Jan 31 10:10:03 Just to avoid misunderstanding: Currently, I just try to use an external linker... Jan 31 10:10:48 the linker is on my PATH. Jan 31 10:11:33 so just add the linker export -> export LD = "avr32-linux-ld" Jan 31 10:11:40 in the local.conf Jan 31 10:12:07 ok... I have done that. Jan 31 10:12:10 but as i said, its much better to use a non-OE build kernel for the moment Jan 31 10:13:06 or till someone decides to fix the issue Jan 31 10:14:05 Ahh... ok. So external kernel is the prefered way to go... any hints on how to do this? Jan 31 10:20:04 * * OE Bug 3712 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jan 31 10:20:06 * * RFE: xapian in OE Jan 31 10:20:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3712 Jan 31 10:20:29 Thanks XorA for doing this! Jan 31 10:21:17 Kleckse: ASSUME_PROVIDED = "linux-avr32" or whatever the kernel name is Jan 31 10:21:35 Kleckse: ASSUME_PROVIDED += sorry, must remeber the + Jan 31 10:27:08 zecke: there? Jan 31 10:27:18 zecke: got something on cmake x qt front? Jan 31 10:27:29 steliosk: To fix that linker problem, I would need quite a deep knowledge of OE? Otherwise I could volunteer for it and give it a try... Jan 31 10:28:58 how do you specify the include directory of the kernel to OE for packages to pickup? Jan 31 10:30:24 Kleckse : Well the problem is that the provided sources by atmel are probably different from the ones used to build their binary toolchain Jan 31 10:37:55 yes it seems so, as they have different version... Jan 31 10:44:16 but, as it seems they build the same version as OE in their buildroot stuff.... Jan 31 11:00:17 Does anybody use Scratchbox? I'm having some problems with toolchain creation Jan 31 11:01:51 * XorA gets the stakes, someone warm up the bonfire :-) Jan 31 11:19:39 bonjour Jan 31 11:38:04 * * OE Bug 3726 has been created by  Jan 31 11:38:06 * * xapian-quickstart not stripped Jan 31 11:38:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3726 Jan 31 11:40:57 good morning Jan 31 12:01:01 gm Jan 31 12:01:11 hi all Jan 31 12:03:07 any1 knows what is the path that SDK_NAME should have? Jan 31 12:03:30 mean SDK_PREFIX Jan 31 12:06:20 undertook: any Jan 31 12:06:34 you can make it /umba/fsfds/rw4242rwe/r2r2/a/r/r/rr/ even Jan 31 12:09:38 hi hrw , i changed it to my user path and got error that folder doesn't exist Jan 31 12:10:39 tries to find this: "${DISTRO}/${TARGET_ARCH} Jan 31 12:11:05 but this doesn't exist, i will try to create dir myself and see what is says. Jan 31 12:14:51 I have got my first compilation of packages working, where can i find the filesystem, i see only ipk files Jan 31 12:15:20 tmp/deploy Jan 31 12:15:37 inside glibc or uclibc and then images folder Jan 31 12:16:28 i see only ipk files in there: /newstuff/build/tmp/deploy/ipk Jan 31 12:17:59 ashu :which command did you typed? Jan 31 12:18:11 ashu :for building the image Jan 31 12:21:17 i have written my own .bb file - task-basic ; i typed bitbake task-basic Jan 31 12:22:42 ashu :this will only create the ipk package not an image Jan 31 12:23:38 ashu :you can import this bb file to an existing image if you like, but i would recomment to start with an angstrom distro first and try minimal image. Jan 31 12:29:56 the ipk is empty when i extracted it. i think i am missing something. http://pastebin.ca/886072 Jan 31 12:31:46 ashu :try choosing angstrom2008 distro and then do: bitbake minimal-image Jan 31 12:32:38 set DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" to conf/local.conf Jan 31 12:32:49 angstrom is a good start Jan 31 12:33:45 undertook: thanks Jan 31 12:35:46 XorA: did you looked how much stuff needs to be added to OE mplayer to get it nicely working on n8x0? Jan 31 12:38:06 hrw: no, I releied on ssvb Jan 31 12:38:24 hrw: our speedup patches are from him anyway Jan 31 12:41:42 XorA: looks like few options from their diff would be nice to have Jan 31 12:41:59 armv6 support, acgst (for using dsp to decode mpeg audio) Jan 31 12:41:59 the JIT scaler would be nice Jan 31 12:43:21 armv6 is used for idct (taken from ffmpeg) Jan 31 12:43:48 hrw: feel free to patch it all in, I was happy with the dev Jan 31 12:43:49 deb Jan 31 12:44:06 deb do not support n810 Jan 31 12:44:20 + if (!check_nokia_device_type("Nokia 770")) { Jan 31 12:44:20 + if (!check_nokia_device_type("Nokia N800")) { Jan 31 12:44:28 no check for N810 ;D Jan 31 12:44:36 it plays video here Jan 31 12:44:40 here too Jan 31 12:44:53 but via xv not via nokia770 driver Jan 31 12:52:06 after bitbaking task-sdk-sbox, what has to be done in order to get the toolchain? Jan 31 12:52:35 you want host toolchain or target toolchain? Jan 31 12:53:11 Hello hrw!! well, I want to use angstrom toolchain with scratchbox Jan 31 12:54:09 but I'm afraid this is not the answer you expected :-P Jan 31 12:54:56 I wanted to setup a target in scratchbox in order to compiled from a desktop linux angstrom executables Jan 31 12:55:39 I followed scratchbox openembedded toolchain tutorial but It didn't work Jan 31 12:56:52 I got GLIB_2.4 not found error Jan 31 12:57:14 so I discovered task-sdk-sbox and tried that one Jan 31 13:01:16 VO: [nokia770] 352x240 => 352x240 Planar YV12 [fs] [zoom] Jan 31 13:01:17 [nokia770] Using ARM JIT YUV420 scaler (quality=2) to scale 352x240 => 352x240 Jan 31 13:01:19 ops Jan 31 13:02:13 wow... that's an answer :-D Jan 31 13:06:37 mabe i have found the problem with qemu-native: on gentoo the 0.9.1 is hard masked because of linking problems http://pastebin.com/m3ba95d0f Jan 31 13:12:51 thats gentoo problem Jan 31 13:19:46 hrw, so why when i try to execute qemu-system-arm from oe it make this errors: http://pastebin.com/m598d42ef Jan 31 13:24:23 and with svgalib's helper loaded http://pastebin.com/m75e1ac29h Jan 31 13:25:09 GNUtoo: first build sdl with x11 support Jan 31 13:27:49 hrw, wow that it thanks a lot Jan 31 13:32:14 I am using an external toolchain, OE is unable to find libc to build a rootfs: i get the error: ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-boot: libc libc libc libc libc libc libc Jan 31 13:32:37 how can i tell OE to pick up the libc from the toolchain? Jan 31 13:33:27 how did you configure the external toolchain? Jan 31 13:33:36 I think you need to right ASSUME_PROVIDED Jan 31 13:33:44 yeah Jan 31 13:33:48 * Crofton has only just started with external toolchains Jan 31 13:34:04 and hasn't built an image :( Jan 31 13:34:21 i referred to sharprom-compatible as an example and followed it Jan 31 13:34:54 well, I would try adding assume provided's based on the errors ..... Jan 31 13:37:04 * * OE Bug 3727 has been created by  Jan 31 13:37:06 * * 1.2.3 in Angstrom 2007.12 Jan 31 13:37:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3727 Jan 31 13:37:57 ashu: The problem is you need a libc package file to include in the image Jan 31 13:39:25 Yeah, but i dont have the sources of the pre-built toolchain, i want to tell OE, look there are built libraries somewhere, take it and give me a rootfs Jan 31 13:39:41 ashu: You want something like http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky/trunk/meta/packages/meta/external-csl-toolchain_2006q3-27.bb?rev=2718&view=markup Jan 31 13:40:05 ashu: Basically you have to generate packages from that toolchain Jan 31 13:41:26 ah Jan 31 13:41:41 so you can make packages with an external toolchain, Jan 31 13:41:51 but you need to package the external toolchain to make images? Jan 31 13:42:05 Crofton: right Jan 31 13:42:08 thanks Jan 31 13:42:17 you just saved me from figuring that out :) Jan 31 13:43:33 We should really merge that recipe from poky, it has good hints for that kind of thing Jan 31 13:44:07 It will cause problem like external-toolchain did though :/ Jan 31 13:44:13 * Crofton needs an external toolchain recipe based on crosstools Jan 31 13:44:19 which problem? Jan 31 13:45:02 People ended up commenting out chunks of it since it was building when people didn't want it too :( Jan 31 13:45:08 ok Jan 31 13:45:12 that sounds fmailiar Jan 31 13:45:39 * RP doesn't have time at the moment to work out why bitbake thinks that was a good idea :( Jan 31 13:45:46 I fires on me sometimes, I need to go through it carefully yo make sure I have covered all the possible things it can provide Jan 31 13:46:17 bitbake is getting smarter than us Jan 31 13:46:28 Open the pos bay doors bitbake Jan 31 13:46:31 er pod Jan 31 13:46:37 everyone here are smarter than me including bitbake :-) Jan 31 13:47:34 ashu: don't thinks so, I can't get my scratchbox toolchain working and I'm trying for days Jan 31 13:47:53 :-) Jan 31 13:50:01 crofton: did you make the reciepe? i am working on crosstools aswell Jan 31 13:50:12 :-) Jan 31 13:50:26 I just hacked at some path and assume porvided stuff Jan 31 13:50:28 no recipe Jan 31 13:54:01 how can notify developers of an error i get trying to compile xserver-xorg? Jan 31 13:54:37 bugzilla Jan 31 13:55:00 url? Jan 31 14:00:11 topic? Jan 31 14:14:30 is bugzilla working? Jan 31 14:15:15 yes Jan 31 14:30:40 moin Jan 31 14:31:05 otavio: hey, not yet. Jan 31 14:31:14 hi zecke Jan 31 14:31:53 last work day and half of the office staff is still drunk :) Jan 31 14:33:32 heh Jan 31 14:33:51 You guys go out last night? Jan 31 14:34:20 Crofton: I invited them and we hang out at my flat Jan 31 14:34:24 ah Jan 31 14:34:43 * zecke loves to invite (different) people Jan 31 14:34:47 * Crofton still has not had a "proper party" for finishing school Jan 31 14:38:14 Crofton: FOSDEM party :-) Jan 31 14:38:20 Crofton: we crash you room Jan 31 14:38:43 XorA: Was crash a typo? Jan 31 14:39:18 crash/trash, same thing :-) Jan 31 14:39:44 zecke: any ETA for it? Jan 31 14:40:36 otavio: I have to get sober again and "as soon as possible" (I know that is not too good...) Jan 31 14:40:53 hehe Jan 31 14:40:55 zecke: ok. Jan 31 14:41:25 I need to get sober... Jan 31 14:41:32 * XorA gueses zecke has his head in the office fancy coffee machine Jan 31 14:47:41 I need a fancy coffee machine for my office Jan 31 14:48:13 XorA, shhh, I tell people FOSDEM is work related :) Jan 31 14:48:43 * mwester take zecke's car keys. Jan 31 14:48:47 "You gotta fight for your right to parrrrdeeeeee" Jan 31 14:49:32 Crofton: did you find a way to get your employer to pay for your FOSDEM trip? Jan 31 14:49:58 morning Jan 31 14:50:29 well, I am basically "self employed", so they are paying :) Jan 31 14:53:45 hi everybody Jan 31 14:54:34 hi thomas Jan 31 14:56:13 oh gamin announced a device Jan 31 14:57:12 navique? Jan 31 15:00:25 url? Jan 31 15:01:12 http://gizmodo.com/350894/nuvifone-garmin-drops-a-phone-into-the-gps Jan 31 15:01:15 http://www8.garmin.com/nuvifone/ Jan 31 15:01:17 is that matchbox? Jan 31 15:02:24 zecke: no idea Jan 31 15:02:59 anyway 3gsm is soon - maybe then there will be more info Jan 31 15:03:08 gsm Jan 31 15:03:35 if openmoko does not have a phone with all US bands, I may have to get one Jan 31 15:03:59 Crofton: there will be no quadband gta02 so no luck for you Jan 31 15:04:24 US bands: 850 900 1900, Europe bands: 900 1800 Jan 31 15:04:40 yeah Jan 31 15:04:54 850 is apparently tricky from the antenna perspective Jan 31 15:05:14 * Crofton knows a guy that knows all about cell phone antennas Jan 31 15:06:23 900/1800 is probably much easier Jan 31 15:08:24 hrw: any set of frequencies that are exactly double another are much easier Jan 31 15:09:25 acutually, it is the antenna size Jan 31 15:09:47 at 850 the wavelength means the antenna needs to be bigger than the phone Jan 31 15:11:59 Crofton: which wasn't a problem in the 80's :) Jan 31 15:12:17 yeah Jan 31 15:15:14 is there a way to specify to OE to take libc from a external toolchain, i followed the csl example, should i specify anything in one of the conf files. i still get the error :Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-boot: libc libc libc libc libc libc libc Jan 31 15:15:36 ashu: ASSUME_PROVIDED might be a start Jan 31 15:16:00 IIRC, virtual/libc would be the package to put in there, but you'd want to check that Jan 31 15:16:58 NAbyss, the problem is that libc needs to be packaged for the image creation process Jan 31 15:17:17 Crofton: Ah, true.. Jan 31 15:17:33 ASSUME_PROVIDED will stop bitbake from trying to build it, but the image creation stuff still looks for the package Jan 31 15:17:44 i have it in my conf file ASSUME_PROVIDED += " virtual/libc ", the problem is while packaging its the final step before i get my rootfs Jan 31 15:17:50 It's 2am, that's my excuse ;) Jan 31 15:48:05 Crofton: it did get it working?. sorry i am bothering you. i really dont have a clue, what do you think the problem is? Jan 31 15:49:23 image building? Jan 31 15:49:39 yes Jan 31 15:49:42 no Jan 31 15:49:52 I do not need that to work yet :( Jan 31 15:49:57 ooh god Jan 31 15:50:35 I need to develop for an existing image at the moment Jan 31 15:54:12 okay Jan 31 16:08:11 ~ugt Jan 31 16:08:11 from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Jan 31 17:36:00 bye Jan 31 17:44:42 ~ipkg Jan 31 17:44:43 rumour has it, ipkg is the Itsy Package Management system: http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/iPKG or find the source in the handhelds.org CVS http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/familiar/dist/ipkg or see the howto at http://docs.zaurus.com/ipkg_howto.shtml Jan 31 17:45:31 Ah right, we need to get rid of this :-) Jan 31 17:45:50 http://docs.zaurus.com/ipkg_howto.shtml didn't exist anymore Jan 31 17:46:41 i wonder if ipkg supports password ftp, i see ftp proxy pass but i dont find for securised ftp Jan 31 17:49:13 ~opkg Jan 31 17:55:16 i look , thx hrw :) Jan 31 18:40:13 finally OE/Angstrom run on neuros OSD !!! Jan 31 18:48:24 for omap which combination of toolchain i must use in conf file? Jan 31 18:48:48 gremlin[it]: nice! Jan 31 18:48:55 omap 2430 is based on TI and is a arm processor Jan 31 18:49:35 tripod123_: hmm... i don't think there are special settings necessary. check the n800.conf which is omap 24xx too Jan 31 18:52:27 tripod123_, the omap arm is a 926ejs Jan 31 18:52:29 usually Jan 31 18:52:36 hmmm 2430 may be differnet Jan 31 18:52:46 florian ... probably i'll carry neuros with me at FODSEM .. but i#ll need some sort of TV to show something :) Jan 31 18:52:49 Look at conf/machine/omap2430sdp Jan 31 18:54:10 Crofton: yep, that should be arm11 based Jan 31 18:54:27 gremlin[it]: laptop with tv in? :-) Jan 31 18:54:29 i am talking about generic.conf file where i need to specify the versions of toolchains Jan 31 18:55:14 at least .... but mine don't have Composite-in ot TV-in ... Jan 31 18:55:48 tripod123_: you should not do it there - make a proper device config based on omap2430sdp.conf and worst case override settings from generic.conf in local.conf Jan 31 18:56:46 i dont know what setting to give - say i dont know nothing about the toolchain Jan 31 18:57:02 tripod try angstrom2--9 and omap2430sdp and see where that gets you Jan 31 18:57:12 bbl Jan 31 18:57:13 er angstrom-2008 Jan 31 18:57:27 generic distro is under construction at the moment Jan 31 18:59:28 okay Jan 31 18:59:59 how much time will a minimal-image take, i cant wait to try it out Jan 31 19:00:09 a long time Jan 31 19:00:23 well, not as long as console-image though :) Jan 31 19:01:00 hey you Jan 31 19:05:13 i was just struggling with cross compiling a package, i get the error: i get the error cannot find /lib/libc.so.6. Jan 31 19:05:34 i have given the path of the libraries correctly. i dont know why arm-linux-gcc does not look at it Jan 31 19:05:41 how are you trying to cross compiler? Jan 31 19:07:18 i have set the environment, did ./configure --build=i386-linux --target=arm-linux LDFLAGS=-L Jan 31 19:08:02 apologies for asking this question here Jan 31 19:09:39 ah Jan 31 19:09:56 I might have an answer later this afternoon Jan 31 19:15:18 i shall wait :-) Jan 31 19:30:00 ciao Jan 31 19:30:20 I'm unemployed now :) (well technically not as students can not be....) Jan 31 19:30:41 congrats Jan 31 19:30:45 I think Jan 31 19:30:52 are you sober yet? Jan 31 19:30:53 :) Jan 31 19:31:02 yes, time to get drunk :) Jan 31 19:31:08 go for it! Jan 31 19:31:23 not today though Jan 31 19:31:43 zecke: youre an expert, how come? Jan 31 19:31:44 when will you finish with school? Jan 31 19:32:00 Crofton: soon (tm) Jan 31 19:32:10 I said that for years Jan 31 21:45:07 hi all Jan 31 21:45:13 who broke strace ? Jan 31 21:57:11 how do i disable the linux kernel from getting compiled. Jan 31 22:00:10 which image are you making? Jan 31 22:00:21 * about strace, just wondering why here is trying to build strace-4.5.12-r1 when 4.5.14.r-4 was ok until yesterday... Jan 31 22:01:18 * and it fails do_compile Jan 31 22:05:21 ant__: Someone deleted 4.5.14 :/ Jan 31 22:06:20 RP: ah, ok Jan 31 22:07:06 ant__: I suspect it shouldn't have been deleted... Jan 31 22:07:33 RP: I'm just grepping for strace.... Jan 31 22:08:08 RP: http://rafb.net/p/pAsMzd14.html Jan 31 22:08:59 i am making a minimal-image Jan 31 22:09:25 The problem is it is trying to download from the git and it is running into problems Jan 31 22:10:27 hello, what do i need to execute supertux-qvga? does it build all the deps or do i need special things such as directfb? Jan 31 22:10:55 it's for bootstrap-image Jan 31 22:17:51 tmbinc_: ping? Jan 31 22:19:03 Something looks very very wrong with the database :/ Jan 31 22:19:18 RP: yes? Jan 31 22:19:22 what's wrong? Jan 31 22:19:31 tmbinc_: Did you just merge something with OE.dev? Jan 31 22:19:33 (and is it my fault? PLEASE not?) Jan 31 22:19:45 wait Jan 31 22:20:00 ouch Jan 31 22:20:08 can i revert the commit to .dev? Jan 31 22:20:26 tmbinc_: I think we might need to try Jan 31 22:20:27 tripod123_, mabe you need to set the correct revision for the kernel Jan 31 22:20:57 tmbinc_: I presume you didn't mean to remove strace 4.5.12 and friends but did somehow? Jan 31 22:21:24 RP: it was a leftover from a .dev / .dreambox merge attempt. You know, you have to cleanup conflicts before. It was never meant to be pushed. Jan 31 22:21:51 tmbinc_: ok. At least we know about it now :) Jan 31 22:22:00 if possible, kill the revision Jan 31 22:22:05 * RP doesn't have to monotone knowhow to deal with this :/ Jan 31 22:23:11 we are two-headed, right? Jan 31 22:23:22 tmbinc_: No, the automerger merged it Jan 31 22:23:27 oh Jan 31 22:23:43 oh dear. Jan 31 22:24:01 RP: is it possible to *locally* unmerge, isn't ? Jan 31 22:24:18 (and maybe some monotone guru can once explain me how to propagate without requiring to touch .dev) Jan 31 22:24:35 GNUtoo:how do i set it? Jan 31 22:25:26 * ant is reading http://monotone.ca/docs/Rebuilding-ancestry.html#Rebuilding-ancestry Jan 31 22:25:46 tripod123_, SRCREV_pn-linux-something = "the_revision" Jan 31 22:28:49 RP: we could db kill_rev_locally on the server Jan 31 22:29:19 tmbinc_: That means anyone who's pulled has to do it as well :/ Jan 31 22:29:33 tmbinc_: and I don't have access to the server, I'm not sure who's awake who does Jan 31 22:29:44 ok, then should we do an inverse commit? Jan 31 22:31:41 "mtn diff -r 4ea5971c2dd26e9c357b906128f0e339d80e3d50 -r b38827e0185c62244ba68bcc61d33cd1e789332c | patch ; mtn commit " should do it, right? Jan 31 22:32:10 tmbinc_: just wait before we do anything, I'll ask the monotone guys... Jan 31 22:32:15 ok thanks Jan 31 22:54:11 tmbinc_: I've just discovered I have an old monotone on my main server, I'm upgrading and trying to fix things on another box... Jan 31 22:55:04 RP: ok.. thanks for cleaning up my mess. Jan 31 22:55:08 (or is there anything i could do?) Jan 31 22:58:20 tmbinc_: pushing something which hopefully fixes this now Jan 31 22:58:34 Someone is going to merge the new head with the bad one though, I can tell :/ Jan 31 23:00:35 RP: can't you just disapprove the revision? Jan 31 23:02:56 thesing: you can't disapprove merges Jan 31 23:04:41 RP: What happens if you try to disaprove one half of the merge? Jan 31 23:05:22 hvontres|work: it doesn't work Jan 31 23:17:10 tmbinc_: How big was the diff? Jan 31 23:17:10 * ant is going to be the guinea pig "mtn: note: perhaps consider 'mtn merge'" Jan 31 23:17:29 ant__: I wouldn't touch it atm Jan 31 23:17:56 RP: ok, nice message btw, very "polite" Jan 31 23:18:07 RP: perhaps consider Jan 31 23:18:16 RP: he he Jan 31 23:18:30 ant__: Which heads is it wanting to merge? Jan 31 23:19:13 RP: sorry...recompiling the kernel Jan 31 23:19:22 RP: in the meanwhile.... Jan 31 23:20:15 RP: mtn: already up to date at 50d03f17a42a3854cd87f47ef75084da297d194e Jan 31 23:20:52 RP: 26k Jan 31 23:21:33 tmbinc_: What I've done bypasses the problem for anyone who didn't update a tree to 50d03f17a42a3854cd87f47ef75084da297d194e Jan 31 23:22:04 ant__: do mtn up -r11d1a9e6662c57de089d25a6900d5325f85d282e Jan 31 23:23:34 RP: mtn: updated to base revision 11d1a9e6662c57de089d25a6900d5325f85d282e Jan 31 23:23:45 RP: thx Jan 31 23:23:49 ant__: That should be "fixed" now then... Jan 31 23:24:08 RP: so, what did you do? (i'm still pulling) Jan 31 23:26:03 RP: http://rafb.net/p/LTz1Ys82.html Jan 31 23:26:17 RP: is the log of mtn up Jan 31 23:27:20 tmbinc_: I ran mtn suspend 50d03f17a42a3854cd87f47ef75084da297d194e and then mtn up -r e651c4fa9a5d1fc6120cc2309e9cba1388cecc52, then committed something Jan 31 23:28:59 tmbinc_: and its failed since the automerger merged it again Jan 31 23:31:07 tmbinc_: Can you commit the reverse diff please, I can't see any other way to fix it Jan 31 23:35:24 RP: I'd like to show you the defconfig used by that 2orO for 2.6.24 http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25351 Jan 31 23:35:48 ant__: Whats special about it? Jan 31 23:36:00 RP: but unfortunately the site is always down (during Europe evening) Jan 31 23:36:08 ant__: also, what version of monotone are you using? Jan 31 23:36:16 RP: he pretends to have solved the suspend issues Jan 31 23:36:24 RP: for cxxx0 Jan 31 23:36:39 RP: but could be valid also for c7x0 Jan 31 23:36:42 RP: :/. ok Jan 31 23:37:15 but my pull will still take ages Jan 31 23:37:27 tmbinc_: I can revert if its easier Jan 31 23:37:33 yes please Jan 31 23:38:22 ant__: Turning those options off may help the c7x0 Jan 31 23:38:41 under 2.6.24, it won't change 2.6.23 Jan 31 23:38:57 RP: I have a copy in office: let me ssh in Jan 31 23:39:19 ant__: That site works for me btw Jan 31 23:39:33 i have a particular version of linux for which i have written a .bb file. i want to tell OE to take linux from that particular .bb file Jan 31 23:39:51 RP: http://yonggun.tistory.com/66 ??? Jan 31 23:40:02 tripod123_: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = Jan 31 23:40:23 RP: no way with firefox/epiphany Jan 31 23:40:53 ant__: works here... Jan 31 23:41:04 RP: ok from office using M$ Jan 31 23:41:31 RP: I'm getting used to these strange things... Jan 31 23:42:05 * ant is waiting for full Broadcom support Jan 31 23:42:21 * probably his router/firewall need reworking Jan 31 23:45:04 tmbinc_: I've pushed a reverse diff, hopefully that is now that :) Jan 31 23:45:59 RP: in your kernel is CONFIG_MTD_CMDLINE_PARTS=y Jan 31 23:46:49 RP: thanks :) Jan 31 23:48:20 RP: and he skipped CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_PXA25x=y Jan 31 23:52:16 ant__: You really need to compile some kernels and find the problem Jan 31 23:52:22 RP: I'm getting confused (I have 1408k for kernel so I could compile most critical modules) Jan 31 23:52:53 RP: seems to me like an amputation Jan 31 23:53:05 RP: no cpu scaling ?? Feb 01 00:00:43 * RP -> sleep Feb 01 00:01:01 RP: gn Feb 01 00:10:13 *gn Feb 01 00:19:35 CoreDump: morning :) Feb 01 00:19:47 hvontres|work: hey Feb 01 00:39:45 I have given PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-omap2_2.6.23" where my bb file name is linux-omap2_2.6.22-omap2.bb. Feb 01 00:40:08 but OE is trying to build a higher version kernel and failing Feb 01 00:40:19 how could one avoid this **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 01 02:59:57 2008