**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 10 02:59:57 2008 Feb 10 03:29:15 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * rce15bdbb... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Feb 10 03:29:15 kobodeluxe: Some fixes. Feb 10 03:29:15 - correct path to sdl-config script Feb 10 03:29:15 - disable building opengl code Feb 10 03:29:15 - added patch to use putenv() instead of SDL_putenv() Feb 10 03:29:25 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r93c92c2d... 10/ (1 packages/kobodeluxe/kobodeluxe_0.5.1.bb): kobodeluxe: Set PR to r1. Feb 10 03:29:30 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r0cb718c4... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): SlugOS Packages: add kexec-tools, inetutils, and rtorrent Feb 10 06:22:24 Need to update fuse to 2.7.2 for kernel 2.6.24 Feb 10 06:37:28 fuse kernel module is in-kernel, so that should be a user-space only thing... Feb 10 06:45:09 mwester: I updated them both, in case anyone uses the module. Feb 10 07:03:31 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rff655995... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): fuse: Update from 2.7.1 to 2.7.2 so that it builds against 2.6.24 kernel Feb 10 07:44:07 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r784b16d8... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): slugos-packages: demote gspcav1 Feb 10 07:44:17 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r085a19d2... 10/ (1 packages/madwifi/madwifi-ng_r3314-20080131.bb): madwifi-ng: Enable latest version for ixp4xx Feb 10 09:59:03 * * OE Bug 3762 has been created by c.romain(AT)laposte.net Feb 10 09:59:06 * * gpm-1.20.1 fails to build with >=kernel-2.6.23 Feb 10 09:59:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3762 Feb 10 10:24:16 morning all Feb 10 10:27:30 morning likewise ! Feb 10 10:31:46 ~seen jeremy_laine Feb 10 10:31:49 jeremy_laine was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 17d 1h 56m 40s ago, saying: 'hi steliosk!'. Feb 10 10:35:34 i am having trouble with orientations, if i change the orientation of matchbox, my touchscreen doesnt work Feb 10 10:36:10 i am able to calibrate, but matchbox and X doesnot take notice of it somehow Feb 10 10:37:02 !oebug 1999 Feb 10 10:37:04 * * Bug 1999, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-16 00:36 Feb 10 10:37:05 * * skoroneos(AT)digital-opsis.com: thcrut fails to build complaining about missing libpcap Feb 10 10:37:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1999 Feb 10 12:27:55 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r4de15177... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-sqlalchemy_0.4.2p3.bb): sqlalchemy: initial commit (bb file modeled after python-simplejson which also uses setuptools) Feb 10 13:42:17 hi everybody Feb 10 13:46:06 hi all Feb 10 13:46:58 gm Feb 10 13:47:12 'allo Feb 10 14:06:00 hello Feb 10 14:06:20 Crofton: Any embedded stuff who should hack on / bring to FOSDEM? Feb 10 14:07:53 we need to figure that out Feb 10 14:08:06 do you have anything that looks good on a table? Feb 10 14:08:35 why does this cat insist on sitting on the keyboard? Feb 10 14:09:10 thesing: Good morning Feb 10 14:09:55 Do you have any idea about this "FAT: invalid media value (0x01)" I am getting on the serial console for my collie? Feb 10 14:11:56 Laibsch: I think this is some error about the cf slot. Feb 10 14:12:13 Laibsch: can you tell me how I generate a oe-key? Feb 10 14:13:17 http://monotone.ca/docs/Generating-Keys.html#Generating-Keys Feb 10 14:13:31 use an openembedded.org email, even though it may not work Feb 10 14:13:33 thesing: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OeFaq Feb 10 14:13:35 Thanks. Feb 10 14:13:36 Number 10 Feb 10 14:14:08 thesing: yes, I also suspected the CF slot Feb 10 14:14:21 Any problems with vfat cards? Feb 10 14:14:26 Is yours ext2? Feb 10 14:14:30 Laibsch: does your webdav upload stuff work? Feb 10 14:14:42 no fat. But I have no problems. Feb 10 14:15:36 thesing: No idea, need to check Feb 10 14:22:45 is there a working 2.6 kernel bb for the sharp collie (5500)? Feb 10 14:23:15 I managed to compile 2.6.24 but the collie doesn't do anything after flashing Feb 10 14:26:14 Verty: it is not error-free for me Feb 10 14:26:22 but it certainly does something here Feb 10 14:26:28 thesing: even claims it works for him Feb 10 14:26:59 Laibsch: webdav upload stuff? Feb 10 14:27:19 Laibsch: been busy with that myself lately. Using lighttpd, we have WebDAV working Feb 10 14:27:40 likewise: No, just on my private server Feb 10 14:27:43 not for OE Feb 10 14:28:02 Laibsch: ah ok Feb 10 14:28:02 will be nice to see in OE, though ;-) Feb 10 14:28:33 Laibsch: well, it works with the right lighttpd modules loaded and right .conf file for lighttpd. I'll double-check if OE has it enabled. Feb 10 14:28:46 Laibsch: you using apache? Feb 10 14:28:57 Not on the Zaurus Feb 10 14:29:13 on the server, yes, of course Feb 10 14:29:22 on your private server I mean Feb 10 14:30:11 Laibsch: I changed few things... some patch that could be found... might have wrecked it :) Feb 10 14:35:41 Verty: What did you change? Feb 10 14:38:11 collie_pm-2 patch had a 404 Feb 10 14:38:57 replaced it with collie_pm-r2.patch... and removed something (think nfs) from the kernel config cuz it good to big Feb 10 14:39:47 prolly should have replaced it with sharpsl_pm-2.patch Feb 10 14:41:10 btw just for the record, I'm building the poky tree Feb 10 14:42:14 ok then you probably have old recipies. Feb 10 14:44:50 I got the linux-rp.bb's from the oe tree... might have missed something else though Feb 10 14:47:14 you need some other files to get important modules in the image. (unix domain socket for example). But all patches should fetch. Feb 10 14:48:02 Verty: You should not try to build collie against poky Feb 10 14:48:12 AFAIK, collie is not a supported device for poky Feb 10 14:48:34 nope... but I'd like to see that changed :) Feb 10 14:50:35 well, compile for a distro that should support it, first Feb 10 14:50:41 then move on to more daunting tasks Feb 10 14:50:51 why poky? Feb 10 14:51:00 Honest question Feb 10 14:51:03 I like poky Feb 10 14:52:53 looks nice and simple... (mostly GUI that is) Feb 10 14:53:10 tried a couple others but never really liked'm Feb 10 15:00:29 but let's find out if I can get a nice image from the dev tree :) Feb 10 15:09:38 Verty: I think angstrom-2008 is broken for collie atm. Feb 10 15:14:31 anyone here know of any succesful bounty programs? Feb 10 15:15:39 k thanx for the tip Feb 10 15:25:33 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r1f570b87... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-pyqt_4.3.3.bb): python-pyqt: add python-sip and sip-native as DEPENDS to ensure successful compilation from scratch. Feb 10 15:25:42 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbe55d0d4... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): python-sqlalchemy: use setuptools, add to task-python-everything Feb 10 15:26:30 Verty: try angstrom-stable or Sonkei Feb 10 15:26:42 You can build sato (the GUI you like) there, too Feb 10 15:27:09 Crofton: You mean a website to list and collaborate on bounties? Feb 10 15:27:31 There is no good one and I have been talking to a few guys for over a year to change this. Feb 10 15:28:20 I recently found confundos.org, but a mail to the developper that their openID plugin was broken (it redirected to server instead of an FQDN) went unanswered. Feb 10 15:28:27 I also did not see much activity there Feb 10 15:28:35 cofundos.org Feb 10 15:28:48 more so a susccesful program Feb 10 15:29:14 the gumstix guys are looking for examples of good programs they could copy Feb 10 15:29:38 what do you mean, a program? Feb 10 15:29:43 Laibsch: I can only find the armstrong-2008.1 distro... assuming it's in .dev Feb 10 15:29:48 hmm Feb 10 15:29:51 Verty: no Feb 10 15:29:57 it's got a separate tree Feb 10 15:30:13 as an example of a company offering bounties that has good response Feb 10 15:30:28 response from devs? Feb 10 15:30:51 You plan on offering bounties and want to do it so that you attract good devs to the problem fast? Feb 10 15:31:11 yeah Feb 10 15:31:16 I don't know about such role model, I think gnome.org has a lot of experience with bounties, you might ask them Feb 10 15:31:22 http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/06/18/crowding-out-of-intrinsic-motivations-aka-the-bounty-problem/ Feb 10 15:31:32 oddly enough, someone came up with this article :) Feb 10 15:31:51 I think collie is broken .stable too. You have to copy the a*2007 distro file to .dev to get sth working for collie. I will fix that soon. Feb 10 15:32:15 But thinking about it myself, at the current time, with current (non-)setup of ready-made bounty sites, I would consider directly approaching devs or the communities around them to be most likely to succeed Feb 10 15:32:28 Verty: Use Sonkei, then Feb 10 15:32:54 Verty: Hop over to #hentges.net and I will let you know how to set it up Feb 10 15:41:06 cu later. Feb 10 15:44:59 crofton: I'm beginning to get the feeling that the whole bounty idea might be more trouble than it is worth Feb 10 15:49:13 yeah Feb 10 15:49:19 I asked in #oe Feb 10 15:49:29 no one knows of a success Feb 10 15:49:46 I think the time and money is better spent building a community Feb 10 15:53:27 Crofton: Interesting article, blogged Feb 10 15:53:29 Thanks Feb 10 15:53:44 I wonder what you intend to do instead with money you receive? Feb 10 15:56:53 Crofton: I guess bounties are not so much about getting participants already in the game to do more Feb 10 15:57:17 But to attract others who were so far not participating because of lack of time and the need to get food on the table Feb 10 15:58:00 increase the pool of potential contributors, I guess Feb 10 15:58:14 And attract special expertise when it is not available for free Feb 10 15:58:54 Or to attract those who might have already solved a problem or added a feature, but need a small kick in the pants to contribute it to others Feb 10 16:11:08 Crofton: http://blog.leggewie.org/?p=37 has some of my thoughts on the issue Feb 10 17:12:56 tux +sklep Feb 10 17:13:05 oopps Feb 10 17:18:53 Verty: try "bitbake qemu-native" Feb 10 17:21:28 sakoman, gumstix looks to have a fairly strong community already Feb 10 17:22:07 within OE, I suspect bountied would not be effective, since the people that could solve the problems are already overworked Feb 10 17:22:18 we need more smart people :) Feb 10 17:22:41 or, enough money to pay people to work on OE for a living Feb 10 17:23:17 * Crofton really should pay a plumber to do his household plumbing so he can do paying work instead Feb 10 17:23:36 Crofton: but plumbing is so much fun :-) Feb 10 17:23:45 Laibsch: syscall.c:3222: error: `__NR_set_tid_address' undeclared (first use in this function) Feb 10 17:23:54 yeah Feb 10 17:24:03 I had to get a bigger pipe wrench Feb 10 17:24:11 got qemu running already so need to compile right? Feb 10 17:24:29 50 year old house, mix of Cu and threaded galvanized steel Feb 10 17:24:42 A man can't have to many tools :-) Feb 10 17:25:21 Verty: I am not sure about the current issue with qemu and OE Feb 10 17:25:31 I remember I solved it sometime in the past Feb 10 17:25:39 DOn't remember how ;-) Feb 10 17:29:05 rm qemu-native_0.9.1.bb? :) Feb 10 17:40:24 Laibsch: external toolchain failed: The external toolchain could not be found in /usr/local/sonkei-0.0.1/arm! Feb 10 17:40:57 not strange since it doesn't exists... maybe config error? Feb 10 18:03:47 * Verty is out for dinner Feb 10 18:12:26 Crofton: Get the hardware to the smart guys, and make sure it is of use to them, will help. Feb 10 18:26:00 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rc4ae7614... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.21/h5000/defconfig): Feb 10 18:26:00 linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.21: Enable BT for h5000. Feb 10 18:26:00 * defconfigman r437 Feb 10 18:26:04 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r046b893a... 10/ (25 files in 25 dirs): Feb 10 18:26:04 linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.21-hh20: Make cpufreq powersave governor modular. Feb 10 18:26:04 * Unfortunately, can't make entire cpufreq modular due to cross-dependency Feb 10 18:26:06 with pcmcia layer. Feb 10 18:26:08 * defconfigman r437 Feb 10 18:30:52 * ant thinks kernel config should be done only by make (config/menuconfig) Feb 10 18:31:42 * ant insists: should be an human! Feb 10 19:08:53 hi rschuster Feb 10 19:09:02 hi florian Feb 10 20:14:40 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * reeedd7c1... 10/ (26 files in 26 dirs): Feb 10 20:14:40 linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.21-hh20: Enable few more FSes and introspection options. Feb 10 20:14:40 * defconfigman r439. Feb 10 20:19:06 likewise, and they have free time :) Feb 10 20:19:17 :-) Feb 10 20:25:23 Crofton: are you in OH? Feb 10 20:25:43 or VA? Feb 10 20:27:22 VA Feb 10 20:46:47 hi, i'm trying to bitbake oe but have problems with glibc. i wanted to use a lower version but it seems that bitbake ignores the PREFFERED_VERSION_glibc="2.5" in my local.conf. can anybody give me a tip what i did wrong? Feb 10 20:48:34 It may be that something else has a dependency that requires a different or newer version. Use "bitbake -g" to emit the dependency graph,and search that for clues to see what is pulling in the undesired version. Feb 10 20:51:30 hm ok, seems to be many... maybe i can find out why 2.6.1 isn't compiling... thanks Feb 10 21:05:19 sakoman, ping Feb 10 21:31:05 * * OE Bug has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Feb 10 21:31:07 * * glibc 2.3.2-initial_2.3.2+cvs20040726 bits/* problem Feb 10 21:31:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id= Feb 10 21:36:21 Terminar, for something like glibc there's a handful of virtuals you need to setup Feb 10 21:41:16 hi again Feb 10 21:55:43 wb, thesing Feb 10 21:56:18 Can you advise as to what to look into to find the reason my images don't have a working serial console for collie? Feb 10 21:56:30 Where is this usually set? Feb 10 21:57:36 the commandline for kernel must be right. Feb 10 21:58:40 Yeah, I remember I had fiddled with it to boot from SD Feb 10 21:58:59 but apparently, I overwrote those changes and am back to what is in .dev AFAICT Feb 10 21:59:06 Where was this being set again? Feb 10 22:06:09 in the linux-rp.inc. file. Feb 10 22:06:36 if you didn't change anything in the machine files this is the only file. Feb 10 22:15:37 how can I exclude a certain task- package from an image build? e.g. task-openmoko-debug from openmoko-image Feb 10 22:19:28 dcordes: edit the image and remove what you don't want. Feb 10 22:20:04 thesing: thing is the image does not build because a depency of that certain task does not match (dbench) Feb 10 22:20:15 dependency Feb 10 22:23:20 edit the .bb file and remove the dbench. Feb 10 22:25:35 thesing: ah great that worked. (removing it from the task-recipe) but what does trigger the task recipe? Feb 10 22:31:21 the image you build Feb 10 22:31:28 so long into the image .bb file Feb 10 23:03:56 Can somebody suggest a bb file as a template where nothing is really compiled but basically only packaged? Feb 10 23:04:24 I have one such thing I want to create here and it fails in do_package currently Feb 10 23:05:31 openmoko-session2 Feb 10 23:05:33 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9f745d62... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): add gstreamer and gst-plugins-base 0.10.17 Feb 10 23:05:34 g'night Feb 10 23:05:38 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r62f0b94f... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): python-gst: update to 0.10.10 Feb 10 23:07:04 Laibsch: look at initramfs-kexec Feb 10 23:10:28 can somebody look at http://72.233.35.82/show_bug.cgi?id=3113 ? it's a build problem with xserver-kdirve-xomap. I have intel that it is due to problems on the build host but have no clue what to try. Feb 10 23:17:18 night all. Feb 10 23:34:32 mickey|zzZZzz: gpsd.inc is faulty Feb 10 23:34:48 There is a DEPENDS for python-ncurses which does not exist Feb 10 23:38:18 I see you just recently, so I will assume it is correct, but that you forgot to commit python-ncurses Feb 10 23:39:42 Laibsch: :) I thought the same thing; I was about to change gpsd.inc, then noticed the date and thought it better to wait. It's only an RDEPENDS, so commenting it out got my build running again. Feb 10 23:40:08 mwester: which is what I did, too ;-) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Feb 11 02:59:56 2008