**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 15 02:59:56 2008 Feb 15 03:26:04 * * OE Bug 3786 has been created by  Feb 15 03:26:06 * * glibc-intermediate-2.6.1-r2-do_configure Feb 15 03:26:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3786 Feb 15 05:13:04 * * OE Bug 3787 has been created by  Feb 15 05:13:06 * * apmd-3.2.2-r10-do_compile Feb 15 05:13:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3787 Feb 15 07:59:45 <__-davide-__> good morning Feb 15 08:02:50 <__-davide-__> after the compilation with bitbake where I can find the package? Feb 15 08:10:18 __-davide-__, /path/to/oe/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk Feb 15 08:11:26 <__-davide-__> tnx Feb 15 08:11:50 <__-davide-__> now I'm going to try my first package Feb 15 08:16:00 <__-davide-__> if I have inside my pda angstrom feed 2007, can i change inside ipkg conf the source and upgrade package to 2008 version? Feb 15 08:28:36 morning Feb 15 08:28:50 <__-davide-__> morning Feb 15 08:34:23 <__-davide-__> I hae to compile libstdc++6 Feb 15 08:35:05 <__-davide-__> but there isn't the package Feb 15 08:44:44 build gcc-cros Feb 15 08:44:44 build gcc-cross Feb 15 08:48:22 <__-davide-__> and than inside there is libstdc++6? Feb 15 08:51:13 bonjour Feb 15 08:54:15 <__-davide-__> morning Feb 15 09:03:35 <__-davide-__> hrw? Feb 15 09:03:57 <__-davide-__> could you explaining it? Feb 15 09:04:18 <__-davide-__> build gcc-cross? Feb 15 09:09:29 bitbake gcc-cross Feb 15 09:16:36 <__-davide-__> and than? Feb 15 09:16:45 <__-davide-__> where I can find the lib? Feb 15 09:31:45 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r405ed6c4... 10/ (1 packages/anki/anki_0.4.3.bb): anki: comment out that export. I hope that maintainer of it will solve it properly one day Feb 15 09:42:44 in tmp/deploy/*/ipk/ Feb 15 09:42:54 <__-davide-__> I've find it Feb 15 09:42:56 <__-davide-__> tnx Feb 15 09:47:06 hi, all! Feb 15 09:48:57 yeah, hi Feb 15 09:49:01 which cross-platform video player based on ffmpeg and not requiring GUI libraries other than gttk, xt and/or libsdl? Feb 15 09:49:36 well, mlayer by default gets build without any gui stuff Feb 15 09:49:49 sorry, typo: mplayer **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 15 09:58:04 2008 Feb 15 10:25:05 hi everybody Feb 15 10:26:37 hi thesing Feb 15 10:36:07 someone here has c700/c750/sl-7500 zaurus? Feb 15 10:39:30 nevermind Feb 15 10:43:03 good morning Feb 15 10:50:32 <__-davide-__> hrw Feb 15 10:50:38 <__-davide-__> another thing Feb 15 10:50:46 <__-davide-__> libpopt Feb 15 10:50:48 <__-davide-__> where is? Feb 15 10:51:04 * * OE Bug 3788 has been created by  Feb 15 10:51:06 * * initscripts-1.0-r105-do_install Feb 15 10:51:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3788 Feb 15 10:51:17 <__-davide-__> in which package? Feb 15 10:51:27 davi: 1st: change nick to normal one (without _- crap) Feb 15 10:51:34 <__-davide-__> ok Feb 15 10:51:49 so it's ok? Feb 15 10:51:51 davide: and now look into oe/packages/ Feb 15 10:53:09 in my directory inside stuff? Feb 15 10:53:28 I do not have idea where you put oe Feb 15 10:53:43 oe contain over 4000 of recipes - libpopt is one of them Feb 15 10:54:35 yes, but i don't know how to find Feb 15 10:54:43 it Feb 15 10:54:46 like before Feb 15 10:55:19 you tell me that libstdc++6 was inside gcc-cross Feb 15 10:55:32 where I can read that? Feb 15 10:55:55 that libstdc++ is inside gcc-cross Feb 15 10:57:40 davide: use 'find yourtemdir -name "libpopt*"' Feb 15 10:59:49 inside package there isn't Feb 15 11:00:11 Feb 15 11:00:36 there are only a and so files Feb 15 11:01:00 there is not the package that contain libpopt Feb 15 11:01:28 probably I've not understand what I have to do Feb 15 11:02:11 you probably need to read OE manual first Feb 15 11:03:46 I'm trying to follow the manual but It's not so easy for me... Feb 15 11:04:44 davide: what is your TMPDIR? Feb 15 11:05:25 it is set in your local.conf. Feb 15 11:05:39 thesing: /home/davide/ipaq/stuff/build/tmp Feb 15 11:07:04 davide: then the packages end in /home/davide/ipaq/stuff/build/tmp/deploy/$LIBC/$PKGTYPE Feb 15 11:07:08 thesing: /tmp Feb 15 11:07:41 yes but libpopt isn't a package Feb 15 11:08:06 if I do bitbake libpopt it tell me that the package Feb 15 11:08:41 is not provided Feb 15 11:09:15 ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'libpopt0' (but '[]' DEPENDS on or otherwise requires it) Feb 15 11:09:29 grep -iR libopt oe/packages/* Feb 15 11:10:05 davide: then there is no libpopt0 in oe. Feb 15 11:10:58 davide: maybe its part of another package. Feb 15 11:11:04 yes Feb 15 11:11:37 my problem is know which package contains it Feb 15 11:11:54 this is my problem Feb 15 11:13:02 ./popt/popt_1.7.bb ß Feb 15 11:13:04 ? Feb 15 11:14:34 CoreDump: is there a policy when to name lib packages libfoo and when just foo? Feb 15 11:14:58 I believe so, but I personally don't know it =) Feb 15 11:17:10 tnx Feb 15 11:20:19 Its probably "do it how debian does it" Feb 15 11:20:49 tnx Feb 15 11:21:53 thesing: upstream name of the program/tarball (if it makes sense) Feb 15 11:22:17 thesing: the debian like renaming happens when people inherit the debian.bbclass (one shared library in a package -> rename the package) Feb 15 11:23:10 good to know. Thanks. Feb 15 12:09:51 hi florian Feb 15 12:10:51 re Feb 15 12:10:55 re Feb 15 12:12:03 good morning Feb 15 12:25:05 * * OE Bug 3789 has been created by  Feb 15 12:25:06 * * e2fsprogs-1.38-r11-do_install Feb 15 12:25:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3789 Feb 15 12:54:55 hrw: ping Feb 15 12:55:01 pong Feb 15 12:55:10 hi, how is ar home? Feb 15 12:55:25 daughter? Feb 15 12:56:12 hrw, I found the patchset that guy used on oesf for 2.6.24 Feb 15 12:56:19 http://yonggun.tistory.com/64 Feb 15 12:56:25 ant|work: not born yet Feb 15 12:57:22 and here the config http://yonggun.tistory.com/66 Feb 15 12:58:06 being that actual 2.6.24-r3 has "resume" bug, I tested with similar changes on c7x0 and somehow resolves the issue Feb 15 12:58:32 somebody should test on C3xx0 Feb 15 12:58:44 or C1000 Feb 15 12:59:38 I suppose key are following changes: Feb 15 12:59:40 # CONFIG_TICK_ONESHOT is not set Feb 15 12:59:47 # CONFIG_NO_HZ is not set Feb 15 12:59:55 # CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS is not set Feb 15 12:59:59 ant|work: we set them and we use it Feb 15 13:00:11 hrw: look at defconfig Feb 15 13:00:24 yonggun again Feb 15 13:00:27 hihi Feb 15 13:00:37 woglinde: hey Feb 15 13:01:08 hi ant Feb 15 13:01:14 * ant|work and hvontres are seeing th same resume issue on different machines... Feb 15 13:03:21 default config in OE/Poky works good Feb 15 13:03:29 ant|work: those 3 options needs to be set Feb 15 13:03:47 hrw: then # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ is not set Feb 15 13:03:54 :-( Feb 15 13:04:39 hrw: when will you merge the poky's changes? Feb 15 13:04:49 kernel ones? Feb 15 13:04:55 when I will have time etc Feb 15 13:05:00 ;-) Feb 15 13:06:13 hrw: once RP said to me: try "cpufreq OR dynticks", not both Feb 15 13:06:36 ? Feb 15 13:07:19 * ant|work doesn't like kernel regressions Feb 15 13:08:24 ant|work: no one like them Feb 15 13:31:31 ok, the gumstix machines should build Feb 15 13:32:43 * Crofton wonders what changed in the omap5912osk file Feb 15 13:32:55 hrw: http://www.makelinux.net/kernel_map very nice Feb 15 13:40:45 Hi all, How can I contribute in oe?; I found some parts in the manual that need help Feb 15 13:43:08 mohamed: grab the source of the manual, send a patch :) Feb 15 13:43:26 mohamed: either to the mailinglist, or the bugtracker Feb 15 13:43:34 mohamed: or both :) Feb 15 13:45:22 zecke: can I add some parts in the manual and send them without a patch, I think I'm not experienced with patches Feb 15 13:46:13 mohamed: do you know docbook? Feb 15 13:46:36 zecke: sorry, no. Feb 15 13:47:05 mohamed: would you have written html directly? Feb 15 13:47:30 mohamed: first of all don't be scared because I'm throwing some buzzwords around you now :) Feb 15 13:48:00 zecke: I wrote html before, is the manual written in html? Feb 15 13:48:03 mohamed: the source of our manual is written using docbook it is like HTML and we can generate the pdf, html from it Feb 15 13:48:34 zecke: could you give me the link to grab the manual, please? Feb 15 13:49:40 mohamed: you need monotone installed, then mtn --db OE-manual.db db init; mtn --db OE-manual.db pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembdedded.documentation Feb 15 13:50:41 mohamed: that operation should be fairly quick. mtn --db OE-manual.db co --branch=org.openembedded.documentation Feb 15 13:51:03 mohamed: if this is too complicated (you should try it anyway), feel free to send chapters in plain text to the OE mailinglist Feb 15 13:52:09 I have monotone, and I typed the first command, and it succeeded but the second "mtn --db OE-manual.db co --branch=org.openembedded.documentation" didn't Feb 15 13:52:35 zecke: it said mtn: misuse: branch 'org.openembedded.documentation' is empty Feb 15 13:52:49 mohamed: you need to pull? Feb 15 13:53:10 mohamed: mtn --db OE-manual.db pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.documentation Feb 15 13:53:23 mohamed: I just did this here to verify :) Feb 15 14:00:39 ~seen psokolovski Feb 15 14:00:41 i haven't seen 'psokolovski', thesing Feb 15 14:01:15 ~seen psokolovsky Feb 15 14:01:16 psokolovsky was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 33d 22h 4m 47s ago, saying: 'pH5: ok'. Feb 15 14:04:06 zecke: it worked, thank you for your time; should I come back for other questions? :) Feb 15 14:05:02 mohamed: sure, now you have usermanual directory. you can type make html there to generate a html (and you will need to install stuff for docbook) Feb 15 14:05:11 mohamed: you can edit the docbook and send the result of mtn diff to the mailing list :) Feb 15 14:06:26 hi thesing Feb 15 14:06:34 hrw: would you pls. commit a quick innocent fix to c7x0.conf ? Feb 15 14:06:38 hi woglinde Feb 15 14:06:40 # yes, we are aware that the husky (c760,c860) has 54MB rootfs, but we don't make a special image for it. Feb 15 14:06:50 well, there are 53MB Feb 15 14:07:37 For the sakeness of truth ...he he Feb 15 14:08:00 woglinde: did you simpad guys already fix the rtc bug? Feb 15 14:17:28 hrw: Added PXA27x resume fix from Russell King to linux-rp-2.6.24 =) Feb 15 14:17:49 hrw: hope they don't forget PXA25X Feb 15 14:18:54 hrw: (poodle and c7x0 showing the resume bug) Feb 15 14:21:30 Hi! Feb 15 14:22:09 RP: Hi, I experience PV set within one task to be reverted to the original value once another task starts. Why is this and what to do? ;-) Feb 15 14:25:46 psokolovsky: hi Feb 15 14:26:28 ggilbert: pong Feb 15 14:27:17 psokolovsky: I have a patch that will update klibc to current version and will package the klibc-utils that are linked against klibc. This will break your uniboot-initramfs as klibc-utils-fstype is currently compiled against normal libc. Feb 15 14:28:04 psokolovsky: maybe we should have klibc-utils-glibc-fstype but IMO it would be better to use the klibc linked utils for initramfs Feb 15 14:31:45 hi mickeyl Feb 15 14:32:06 thesing: sure, would be better. if they work. Feb 15 14:34:10 psokolovsky: I will test if my kexec-initramfs works with non-static klibc-utils. Should I commit if it works or should I post the patches on ml first so that you can fix your initramfs-bbs? Feb 15 14:34:36 hrw: I just got my mainboard back. Feb 15 14:35:16 morning Feb 15 14:35:51 thesing: just please leave my recipe as is. I guess, as long as I won't build yours nothing should break, right? Feb 15 14:37:50 psokolovsky: klibc will package klibc-utils-fstype as klibc's version is higher than your klibc-utils-fstype recipe I guess bitbake will build klibc. But I'm not sure. Feb 15 14:39:12 thesing: ok, just please leave mine in place for time being ;-). but of course it is heading to /dev/null with you changes. Thanks for work on klibc! Feb 15 14:40:55 ant|work: hrw: Please test. RP pointed me to this fix and it fixes resume on my SL-C3200. If it does not fix it for you, please try to research on better fix. Feb 15 14:41:08 psokolovsky: I'm the greatest beneficiary of my work. Feb 15 14:41:19 ;) Feb 15 14:41:31 sbrabec: hi stanislav Feb 15 14:41:41 See you later guys time to get my PC working again. Feb 15 14:42:03 sbrabec: I'm actually busy on c7x0 Feb 15 14:43:06 ant|work: I added this patch to the generic patch list. I believe that it does not conflict with any other and may fix more devices than only spitz. Feb 15 14:43:27 sbrabec: I'll try in a few hours, thx Feb 15 14:44:46 sbrabec: BTW do you know the status of Sharp remote controller CE-RH1 ? Working? Feb 15 14:44:58 Thank to Russell King and RP. I spent whole day on debugging without any result. Feb 15 14:45:13 RP: What about PKGPV then? Feb 15 14:45:21 ant|work: Probably not, but it should be easy to port. Feb 15 14:46:27 ant|work: Simply use sharpsl-rc patch and test it. I could expect problems with button assignment - you have to change values inside. Maybe even more changes. Feb 15 14:47:19 sbrabec: I think to remember in OESF was some post about CE-RH! GPIO's Feb 15 14:48:52 ant|work: CE-RH2 is only a resistor array. It uses 1 GPIO pin as trigger (input), second pin as voltage switch (output, when some input appears) and one channel of MAX1111 A/D converter. Feb 15 14:49:11 CE-RH1 is also only a resistor array, but resistors are different. Feb 15 14:49:27 I see Feb 15 14:49:30 And CE-RH1 is intended for older models with ground on different pin. Feb 15 14:50:06 sbrabec: http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18196&hl=CE-RH1 Feb 15 14:50:08 If you are happy, GPIOs are the same and you will have to change only values corresponding to resistors. Feb 15 14:50:19 resistance values Feb 15 14:51:15 "Don't forget to swap the Key and GND wires to the connector. They got swapped between the CE-RH1 and CE-RH2." Feb 15 14:51:36 Yes. But source code needs A/D values. Feb 15 14:52:00 Do you have SL-Cxxx or SL-Cxx00? Feb 15 14:52:25 I have SL-C860 and SL-C3200 (virgin) Feb 15 14:52:53 ant|work: So CE-RH1 could work with one or with the second (after hacking). Not for both. Feb 15 14:53:10 sbrabec: I have both CE-RH Feb 15 14:53:40 sbrabec: don't need to hack them Feb 15 14:54:07 Well, then test sharpsl-rc patch with C860. Feb 15 14:54:11 * ant|work admit used only a couple of times over 4 years... Feb 15 14:54:24 You will need to check syslog and change values inside. Feb 15 14:55:58 re Feb 15 14:56:15 rh1 is for correct Feb 15 15:03:37 Crofton|work: did you get my omap defconfig the other day? Feb 15 15:06:03 ant|work: Please test sharpsl-rc with your stuff and let me know (utx@penguin.cz). Feb 15 15:06:03 I plan to rewrite the driver, keep it as linear input device and move resistor detection to userspace (using uinput driver from touchscreen virtual keyboard). It will allow to easily connect custom input devices to the remote pin. Feb 15 15:08:12 sbrabec: nice Feb 15 15:11:23 ant|work: The hardware uses a nice magic - it is a resistance meter with two ranges. Feb 15 15:12:10 Range 0 (1MOhm pull-up) eats only a few microampers and waits for key press. Feb 15 15:13:28 If the key press appears, interrupt is issued and kernel switches to Range 1 (about 20kOhm pull-up). It raises power consumption, starts polling and allows to measure resistance exactly. Feb 15 15:15:37 sharpsl-rc does exactly this. Feb 15 15:15:43 What happened to the bugtracker? Feb 15 15:16:27 florian: .org works Feb 15 15:19:38 ant|work: no, since the login tries to connect to .net again Feb 15 15:19:41 florian: unfortunately some bugs points to .net Feb 15 15:19:55 http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-issues/2008-February/007514.html -> http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3739 Feb 15 15:22:53 florian: it seems the redirection started on Fri Jan 18 Feb 15 15:24:01 ant|work: yes this all is fine, but looks like the dns entries are out of sync Feb 15 15:24:13 :-( Feb 15 15:24:21 apaulsen, yes, but I swamped with other stuff :( Feb 15 15:25:23 bye Feb 15 15:26:55 florian: DNS ok here http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=openembedded.org Feb 15 15:27:13 Crofton|work: busy getting ready for FOSDEM? :) Feb 15 15:27:50 no paying work Feb 15 15:27:56 and kitchen renovation Feb 15 15:31:10 Crofton|work: do you do consultant work? Feb 15 15:32:48 hi Crofton ! Feb 15 15:33:22 yeah Feb 15 15:33:56 RP: PKGPV/PKGPR work nicely, will send RFC ;-) Feb 15 15:35:10 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rccc35c09... 10/ (1 packages/ipaq-boot-params/ipaq-boot-params.bb): ipaq-boot-params: Add DESCRIPTION. Feb 15 15:35:22 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8173bd39... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): ipaq-boot-params: Add sensible boot params regarding consoles. Feb 15 15:35:28 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb53dab09... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): uclibc 0.9.29: blackfin and avr32 updates Feb 15 15:35:34 03utx 07org.oe.dev * ra9ec71b4... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Added PXA27x resume fix from Russell King to linux-rp-2.6.24. Feb 15 15:35:40 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r526c9e72... 10/ (54 files in 5 dirs): Feb 15 15:35:40 gumstix-kernel : Add files to build a kernel for gumstix machines. These are Feb 15 15:35:40 copied verbatim from the gumstix OE based build system. Feb 15 15:37:27 what is the name of the project ( sources ) for the openwrt ( busybox httpd) cgi scripts ? Feb 15 15:44:04 * * OE Bug 3074 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Feb 15 15:44:06 * * libxine-x11 fails with syntax error in configure Feb 15 15:44:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3074 Feb 15 15:55:54 mickey|flu: still awake? Feb 15 15:57:54 hardly Feb 15 15:58:51 anything i can do? Feb 15 16:04:48 hi all, I was trying the getting started page but the following error arises when trying bitbake nane ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf, any help? Feb 15 16:06:12 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r932ef509... 10/ (1 packages/libxine/libxine-x11_1.0.bb): libxine: omit restore-esd.patch from libxine-x11_1.0.bb. Fixes bug 3074 and enables successul build. Feb 15 16:06:25 mohamed: you didn't export the BBPATH Feb 15 16:10:12 zecke: That's true but when I exported the following error arises http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56087/ Feb 15 16:11:49 mohamed: is the GettingStarted referring to org.openembedded.dev and angstrom-2007.1? Feb 15 16:12:41 zecke: yes, BBFILES = "/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" and DISTRO = "angstrom-2007.1" Feb 15 16:13:00 mohamed: feel free to update GettingStarted to point to angstrom-2008.1 Feb 15 16:15:11 zecke: ok, done, thank you Feb 15 16:15:33 zecke: working fine :) Feb 15 16:43:36 psokolovsky: You realise the evil things people will start doing with this? Feb 15 16:44:29 * RP isn't against it as such, I just foresee a ton of problems with people reporting "1.8.9" doesn't work when it was really "2.8.4" Feb 15 16:47:02 RP: Well, people shouldn't do anything evil with that, it's prohibited ;-). "people" shouldn't do anything beyond "bitbake foo" at all ;-). and that's developers' responsibility to make sure that it actually does all stuff as needed ;-) Feb 15 16:47:47 RP: all in all, PKGP* are just for "meta" recipes and for local.conf hacks. And no, I don't insist them to be documented in OE manual ;-) Feb 15 16:48:22 mohamed : salamo 3likom adel Feb 15 16:48:42 psokolovsky: You know thats why you think they should only be used for. That doesn't stop others though... Feb 15 16:49:11 ahmed: how are you? Feb 15 16:49:21 RP: while you're here, will you find time to correct the small typo in sharpsl "Using static partision definition"? Feb 15 16:49:36 RP: It scrolls too often on my screen... Feb 15 16:49:53 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rbe2891a8... 10/ (1 classes/kernel.bbclass): Feb 15 16:49:53 kernel.bbclass: Add satndalone task "builtin_initramfs". Feb 15 16:49:53 * Builds a zImage with linked in initramfs specified by INITRAMFS_LOC param. Feb 15 16:49:53 RP: well, everyone doesn't have commit access, and there're peer review. and if you mean people using that for bad on their own, then one can put "sudo rm -rf" in recipe ;-) Feb 15 16:50:05 ant|work: I'll make a note to fix it Feb 15 16:50:07 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r5a8c2a23... 10/ (1 packages/initrdscripts/kernel-initramfs_1.0.bb): Feb 15 16:50:07 kernel-initramfs: A recipe to build a kernel with linked in initramfs. Feb 15 16:50:07 * First builds ${KERNEL_INITRAMFS} in cpio.gz format, then stuffs it into Feb 15 16:50:07 kernel as specified by virtual/kernel, deploys to deploy dir, and packages Feb 15 16:50:08 kernel-image (the package would overrite previously built kernel-image Feb 15 16:50:10 package w/o initramfs, so caveat). Feb 15 16:50:12 * kernel-image packaing actually requires PKGPV/PKGPR support, to be RFCed. Feb 15 16:50:27 RP: ^ and that's the first user ;-) Feb 15 16:51:06 mohamed : fine man Feb 15 17:00:55 ggilbert: i need to lay down again. if there's something i can do, just send me a mail and i will do asap Feb 15 17:06:53 Ah k Feb 15 17:07:02 just needed you to update bugs.openbembedded.net Feb 15 17:07:07 Feel better Feb 15 17:11:33 hi again Feb 15 17:13:40 hi thesing Feb 15 17:14:05 psokolovsky: See my mail but I'm going to ask that this bitbake recursive stuff is removed ASAP. Feb 15 17:15:34 Laibsch: I know why collie images fail to boot a second time. Its rtc related. rtc for SA1100 is broken. Feb 15 17:16:00 thesing: nice Feb 15 17:16:07 Can you fix it? Feb 15 17:16:34 I'd naturally also like to find out why my images don't boot and have no serial console Feb 15 17:16:56 !oebug 3113 Feb 15 17:17:25 * * Bug 3113, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-10-03 11:19 Feb 15 17:17:26 * * : xserver-kdrive-xomap-1.1.99.3-r0-do_compile Feb 15 17:17:27 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3113 Feb 15 17:17:31 Not very fast. A workaround is to remove sa1x00-rtc (or so) from autoload (for example by removing it from /etc/modutils/ in first boot) Feb 15 17:19:01 'night Feb 15 17:19:08 ~ugt Feb 15 17:19:09 [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Feb 15 17:19:13 night. Feb 15 17:19:20 RP: is that bug yours? :-} Feb 15 17:20:08 sbraB Feb 15 17:20:09 e Feb 15 17:20:23 sorry Feb 15 17:20:36 RP: well, I'm ok with that it needs to be supported better on bitbake level, but well, the current recipes solve actual and generic issue of building kernel per the mainstream upstream configuration, what OE couldn't do at all. Also, recipes committed are fully standalone and don't touch anything else. Feb 15 17:21:17 hi..can anyone tell the difference between ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.14, and ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1, for GNU/Linux 2.4.0, ? Feb 15 17:21:20 Laibsch: btw I'm writing this from my very own PC. I'm no longer restricted to a usb1 harddisk on an old windows PC ,) Feb 15 17:22:23 psokolovsky: They're angstrom specific and will break things for people... Feb 15 17:22:30 Magon: the glibc version against which the files where compiled differ. Feb 15 17:23:01 sbrabec: I'll check the 2.6.24 kernel in a few hours...cross the finger Feb 15 17:23:06 (S) Feb 15 17:23:09 bbl Feb 15 17:23:23 florian: I maintain the poky version of that recipe. It looks like the sdl xserver should be disabled Feb 15 17:23:47 RP: well, not quite. They are "Ansgtrom" specific because my older RFC on getting generic config param was not acceptable yet, and people who weren't happy with it didn't bother to apply their own (partial) solution. Feb 15 17:24:09 RP: otherwise, if you insist, they can be moved to "angstrom" dir ;-) Feb 15 17:24:55 thesing: thx Feb 15 17:25:03 psokolovsky: Did you read my email? They're problematic because they assume a certain multimachine, a certain deploy layout etc. Feb 15 17:26:05 psokolovsky: "it solves my specific usecase" is not a valid reason to push code that is going to cause problems into OE.dev Feb 15 17:26:25 RP: no, they don't. they are exactly generic, don't rely on such stuff, and good example of what to aim to, in functionality sense. Feb 15 17:27:12 psokolovsky: They do rely on those things. Try using the generic distro with it ;-) Feb 15 17:27:24 psokolovsky: The fact you don't realise this worries me :( Feb 15 17:27:38 RP: they allow to build: a) initramfs as package b) kernel with initramfs linked in. In pretty generic way, at least as far as allowed by OE. Feb 15 17:28:09 psokolovsky: I'm not going to say anything more, I will ask the core team for a decision though. Feb 15 17:30:06 RP: they might need more tweaks to be fully generic, but that's exactly why I started that matter, and wanted to make a working solution - to show that it's doable, even now, and that OE might need to progress if we want to support such things (building a kernel per today's standards!) Feb 15 17:36:59 RP: ok, then i'll take a look at the poky recipe later :) Feb 15 17:41:25 psokolovsky: mail to core team sent, you're cc'd Feb 15 17:41:36 RP: thanks Feb 15 18:07:02 RP: replied Feb 15 18:08:00 psokolovsky: progressing is important, trying out things too, it is highly appreciated! but I agree with RP here Feb 15 18:13:07 zecke, RP: I also replied to RP's mail in oe-devel. You of course can revert that stuff, but it was added by purely practical need to ensure such kernel/bootloader config which would allow to proper package manager provided upgrades. Due to lack of that, I cannot upgrade kernel for Angstrom. These recipes are intended to solve that issue. Feb 15 18:14:53 psokolovsky: Don't get me wrong, I understand the need and I'm open to solutions. This one just isn't appropriate for committing into OE.dev Feb 15 18:15:12 psokolovsky: yes, we need to fix this, but the concerns richard has are really worrying Feb 15 18:15:34 psokolovsky: I will try and think of a better way to do this although as always, time is a problem so I won't have anything straight away Feb 15 18:16:23 RP: that's exactlt why i committed stuff - it allows to have something to at least use where needed and compare to new solutions. Feb 15 18:17:19 psokolovsky: Its not ready for committing. But I've made my points, you understand them and we can now wait for the other dev's views... Feb 15 18:17:47 psokolovsky: Recursive calls like that aren't a simple matter, they have lasting implications Feb 15 18:17:51 * RP -> afk Feb 15 18:18:02 (back later) Feb 15 18:18:28 recursive is devilish force (I'm serious). so easy and so powerful... Feb 15 18:21:41 Recursion is evil. It is also true that all recursive alogorithms can be expressed in a non-recursive fashion as well, which often makes real-life coding easier, and certainly make error-detection and recovery more practical... JMO. Feb 15 18:28:13 thesing: That should not happen with a build from scratch, though, right? I have cleaned out tmp IIRC Feb 15 18:40:25 mwester: mistake. recursion is the only driving force in the nature, not only in algorithms. it can't be surmounted, it will break out in either case. Feb 15 18:43:42 philosophy and implementation should not be confused. Feb 15 18:44:22 Until we develop organic computers, we are bound by rules that make recursion difficult to manage. Feb 15 19:22:42 re Feb 15 19:39:37 zecke: after I've typed bitbake nano, and finally it finished, I've typed bitbake bootstrap-image to obtain a flashable root file system image, the question is can I emulate the resulting image using qemu ? Feb 15 19:40:16 mohamed: yes you can, but you need to pick a machine that has proper enulation Feb 15 19:40:22 mohamed: AFAIK the neo1973 is the best one Feb 15 19:40:50 mohamed ... or the ad-hoc MACHINE x86-quemi arm-quemu Feb 15 19:42:16 zecke: you mean that I have to change the local.conf file and choose other machine (I've chosen nokia800)? Feb 15 19:43:00 mohamed: right, check what qemu supports and then pick this machine, other people know better which machines are properly supported Feb 15 19:44:27 zecke: ok, thanks :) Feb 15 19:46:32 gremlin[it]: thank you too, I haven't realized that you answered me :) Feb 15 19:46:54 hahah don't worry :) Feb 15 20:00:01 greg_: I mean such as nokia800, x86-quemi, arm-quemu ... etc? Feb 15 20:00:54 sorry, there is no greg_ here ;) Feb 15 20:40:35 * cbrake wonders of the bitbake git fetcher can be made to fetch a branch ... Feb 15 20:42:32 :-) looks like it uses a branch parameter Feb 15 21:04:46 lrg: 5/4 patches? :) Feb 15 21:05:06 lrg: no wonder you want to stick to pounds and avoid the metric system :) Feb 15 21:06:26 zecke: yeah, I sent out an RFC to linux-pm about 1 month ago. Replace RFC with PATCH and people pay attention :) Feb 15 21:07:04 zecke: nobody cares about RFC's Feb 15 21:07:56 right! will you make it to the FOSDEM this year? Feb 15 21:08:05 yes :) Feb 15 21:09:03 cool, I decided to make mickeyl sick before FOSDEM :) Feb 15 21:09:27 heh Feb 15 21:09:48 and he is even blaming his wife Feb 15 21:09:54 zecke: and then sleep on the same room? Feb 15 21:09:55 * zecke hugs eris Feb 15 22:19:33 nacht Feb 15 22:20:12 hms Feb 15 22:24:06 woglinde: hey Feb 15 22:52:23 zecke: Did you mean my mail to oe-private or the list earlier? Feb 15 22:53:38 oe-private, my reply didn't arrive though :) Feb 15 22:54:19 zecke: ah, can you make sure it gets through somehow please ;-) Feb 15 22:54:41 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r071b4d95... 10/ (1 conf/distro/chinook-compat.conf): Feb 15 22:54:41 chinook-compat.conf: Feb 15 22:54:41 - added more packages renames Feb 15 22:54:41 - added more preferred versions Feb 15 22:54:46 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * re975161f... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rt_2.6.24.bb): linux-rt-2.6.24: Added squashfs-lzma. Reduced kernel configuration. Feb 15 22:54:52 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rabbbc2c8... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rt-2.6.24/mpc8313e-rdb/defconfig): linux-rt-2.6.24: Added squashfs-lzma. Reduced kernel configuration. Feb 15 22:55:02 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * refa50d2f... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): cairo: Added 1.4.14 with pixman memory leak patch, with -1 preference. Feb 15 22:57:22 RP: sent again, lets see if it is working again Feb 15 22:57:57 RP: I will just emulate to speak for all: If you raise a concern in this way, everyone is going to take it serious Feb 15 22:59:34 zecke: thanks :) Feb 15 22:59:55 and you are even right on the matter (this is why we are loving you) :) Feb 15 23:00:31 /me chickened out at TT today and comitted for one project at OM :} Feb 15 23:02:41 zecke: back in business? :) Feb 15 23:03:07 I could cry ... Feb 15 23:04:53 flo_lap: I did hear a rumour ;-) Feb 15 23:05:21 * RP thinks he knows how to solve the initramfs problem properly. A drink helped :/ Feb 15 23:05:55 RP: uh? ;) Feb 15 23:07:23 flo_lap: Some of my best university work was written after a night in a pub ;-) Feb 15 23:07:53 zecke we should maybee do after richard Feb 15 23:08:16 drink and pass the exams Feb 15 23:08:38 RP: ok... maybe I should do the same :) Feb 15 23:08:44 woglinde: I would advise reading it over when sober to make sure the code comments aren't too bad ;-) Feb 15 23:08:58 woglinde: I never had a problem with code written that way though... Feb 15 23:09:44 RP: cheers! Feb 15 23:11:32 rp hm you rewrote some partas of rtc-sa1100 do you know whats IRQ_RTC1Hz is for? Feb 15 23:11:55 woglinde: 1Hz timer IRQ? Feb 15 23:12:01 RP: But yes, you can damage software by cading and drinking ;) Feb 15 23:12:35 rp its interrupts the cpu every second? Feb 15 23:12:50 flo_lap: Like all things its a question of degree and I might only be partly serious ;-) Feb 15 23:13:11 woglinde: I can't be too drunk to pass an exam Feb 15 23:13:33 woglinde: I will need to go to Norway to pay another bottle of Linie Aquavite (i love this) Feb 15 23:13:37 woglinde: That sounds like the description but I don't remember much about the code (not related to other comments I've made!) Feb 15 23:13:51 richard okay thanks Feb 15 23:15:02 woglinde: A quick glance at the code suggests it does do that though Feb 15 23:15:20 hm it seems oesf and android attract the same fan base Feb 15 23:16:03 rp okay because under 2.6.24 and the simpad the irq didnt show up in /proc/interrupts Feb 15 23:16:50 woglinde: Its registered as disabled which I don't quite understand Feb 15 23:18:48 hm mrdata solved it Feb 15 23:19:13 by comment some code but I didnt look at his patch Feb 15 23:19:14 args Feb 15 23:19:26 solved that rtc-sa1100 dont crash Feb 15 23:25:36 okay nite Feb 15 23:25:42 I will going to sleep Feb 15 23:26:19 'night woglinde Feb 15 23:38:13 good night Feb 15 23:42:11 'night all Feb 15 23:42:19 * RP -> Zzzz Feb 15 23:57:30 hi Feb 15 23:58:07 who needs to be cursed for that : "NOTE: preferred version 115 of udev not available (for item udev)" ? Feb 15 23:58:22 was zecke or mickeyl|flu ? Feb 16 00:00:55 ? Feb 16 00:01:27 hi zecke...was discussed yesterday...not sure was you Feb 16 00:02:22 not me Feb 16 00:02:35 sorry :=) Feb 16 00:02:50 lemme search...was the last udev upgrade Feb 16 00:03:04 deleting 115 Feb 16 00:04:00 zecke: [20080213 12:26:05] mickeyl ^C07org.oe.dev * rdb9d94dd... / (6 files in 3 dirs): udev: update to 118, Feb 16 00:04:55 zecke: [20080213 22:09:29] mickey|flu, deleted 115 and replaced it with 118 Feb 16 00:05:18 * [20080213 22:08:15] Crofton|work: about udev: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2008-February/012382.html Feb 16 00:06:55 CoreDump: hi, wie geht es? Feb 16 00:07:20 not too bad, thx Feb 16 00:07:46 look at navit 0.0.4 Feb 16 00:07:52 btw Feb 16 00:08:11 will do tomorrow. Feb 16 00:08:35 I was yesterday in Muenchen and tested angstrom/navit for 800km. no crashes Feb 16 00:09:08 and the map switch was not perceptible (map3 = DE, map4 =IT and A) Feb 16 00:09:19 all in 64MB ! Feb 16 00:09:31 (RAM) Feb 16 00:09:52 * ant_ bought a 2gb sd card for gps purposes Feb 16 00:10:48 nice Feb 16 00:11:11 a dedicated device could cost less nowaday... Feb 16 00:11:16 =) Feb 16 00:11:39 probably, yes :\ Feb 16 00:27:21 wow, the commits http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2008-February/012449.html Feb 16 00:27:37 was at 15.08 .... merged NOW by monotone... Feb 16 00:27:49 not exactly fast! Feb 16 00:28:21 hi all, after I typed bitbitbake bootstrap-image, I need to emulate the results, does any one knows how could I use qemu to emulate or where I could find the resulted images? Feb 16 00:30:11 mohamed: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qemu but a different machine (neo1973 and not n800) Feb 16 00:32:51 zecke: I couldn't find the .image file or the .bin kernel after I've finished, do I have to issue another bitbake command? Feb 16 00:33:44 mohamed: tmp/deploy/images ? Feb 16 00:33:56 mohamed: is a dir where you can start looking at Feb 16 00:43:43 RP: Russel's patch for resume against 2.6.24 solves on both c7x0 and cxxx0 ! Feb 16 00:45:35 zecke: I've found the kernel image but still don't know how to specify other parameters such has hd image, bootloader ... Feb 16 00:48:09 mohamed: read, their are scripts on how to flash your qemu neo... Feb 16 00:51:10 zecke: ok I'll read, but I'm afraid there will be some differences between neo and nokia800 :~ Feb 16 00:57:58 mohamed: sure, but qemu has no n800 emulation Feb 16 00:58:28 or I don't know if it has, if it can emulate a omap2 at all, this is up to you finding out :) Feb 16 00:59:43 zecke: that's what I've just discovered when I was talking to someone at #qemu, he told me that qemu doesn't emulate n800; the core is arm but other drivers aren't ready :/ Feb 16 01:07:19 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * re8991301... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Feb 16 01:07:19 initramfs-module-kexecboot: Initramfs module to kexec to kernel in rootfs. Feb 16 01:07:19 * Instead of switch_root'ing to it, which was the only working mode previously. Feb 16 01:07:19 So, now, if there's /boot/zImage in rootfs, it will be kexec'ed too. Otherwise, Feb 16 01:07:19 switch_root will happen. Feb 16 01:07:20 * Caveat: there should be initramfs for new (kexec'ed to) kernel too, too handle Feb 16 01:07:24 its loading of rootfs as selected by interactive bootloader. This can be very Feb 16 01:07:26 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r975cc3ff... 10/ (1 packages/images/initramfs-bootmenu-image.bb): initramfs-bootmenu-image: Add initramfs-module-kexecboot. Feb 16 01:07:43 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r195b0703... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): devimage 0.1: Up a usb0 on load, now that we're modular. Feb 16 01:11:39 zecke: thank you for your help and for the great day you've really helped me alot :) ; I got to go Feb 16 02:02:04 * * OE Bug 3790 has been created by  Feb 16 02:02:06 * * gtk+-2.12.3-r0-do_compile Feb 16 02:02:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3790 Feb 16 02:45:04 * * OE Bug 3791 has been created by  Feb 16 02:45:06 * * hal-0.5.9-r5-do_compile Feb 16 02:45:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3791 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 16 02:59:57 2008