**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 18 02:59:57 2008 Feb 18 03:31:04 * * OE Bug 3807 has been created by johnxx(AT)gmail.com Feb 18 03:31:06 * * recipe for latest webkit-gtk svn Feb 18 03:31:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3807 Feb 18 03:31:49 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r6f20c177... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gnome-doc-utils: add libxslt-native to DEPENDS and reorder some fields according to StyleGuide Feb 18 03:31:55 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r962630b3... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): gnome-doc-utils: unify Feb 18 03:33:33 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rfe513c8d... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): gnome-desktop: unify Feb 18 03:59:04 * * OE Bug 2916 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2937 by Feb 18 03:59:06 * * gnome-desktop_2.18.3 fails do_configure Feb 18 03:59:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2916 Feb 18 04:06:13 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rbacd1e0e... 10/ (1 packages/wireshark/tshark_0.99.4.bb): tshark: fix SRC_URI Feb 18 04:24:56 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rd6df5c6b... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Feb 18 04:24:56 gnome-desktop: remove EXTRA_AUTORECONF from 2.10 and 2.16 recipe Feb 18 04:24:56 * same thing that got 2.18 version to compile in 4f51dba47b3fab8347a4183dda20e0be798b3928 Feb 18 04:24:56 * version 2.7.90 still does not compile successfully, leaving unchanged Feb 18 04:25:02 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r2c803de2... 10/ (10 files in 8 dirs): sqlite3: drop a bunch of patches from version specific directories that are also available from sqlite3/ dir. Feb 18 04:55:20 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r1b8c3e4b... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): sqlite3: update to latest stable (3.5.6) Feb 18 06:39:57 hmm.. Feb 18 06:40:30 has anyone ever encountered an opie image that halts at a yellow cursor? Feb 18 08:55:05 * * OE Bug 3808 has been created by  Feb 18 08:55:06 * * midpath-gtk-0.1-r1-do_compile Feb 18 08:55:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3808 Feb 18 08:55:16 * * OE Bug 3809 has been created by  Feb 18 08:55:18 * * midpath-pulseaudio-0.1-r1-do_compile Feb 18 08:55:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 Feb 18 09:24:04 * * OE Bug 3810 has been created by  Feb 18 09:24:06 * * uqtreader-1.2.2opie+cvs20070601-r3-do_compile Feb 18 09:24:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3810 Feb 18 09:33:04 * * OE Bug 3812 has been created by  Feb 18 09:33:06 * * bluez-hcidump-1.38-r0-do_install Feb 18 09:33:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3812 Feb 18 09:33:16 * * OE Bug 3811 has been created by  Feb 18 09:33:18 * * gpe-timesheet-0.32-r0-do_compile Feb 18 09:33:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3811 Feb 18 10:13:07 ping mickey|flu Feb 18 10:27:27 tcooksey: ping Feb 18 10:27:41 zecke: pong Feb 18 10:27:50 tcooksey: wow, fast :) Feb 18 10:28:06 zecke: IRC hardware acceleration. Feb 18 10:34:04 * * OE Bug 1506 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Feb 18 10:34:06 * * icewm: Added font recommendation to default .bb file Feb 18 10:34:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1506 Feb 18 10:56:24 good morning Feb 18 10:59:03 hi florian Feb 18 10:59:31 morning all Feb 18 10:59:49 hi florian Reach Feb 18 10:59:58 s/Reach/RP/ Feb 18 11:01:13 a question about you all will came at FOSDEM (or not) ... Feb 18 11:01:33 * RP won't be there Feb 18 11:01:48 have sense to show at fosdem a device onlt partially "powered my OE" ... Feb 18 11:02:14 * XorA is at FOSDEM Feb 18 11:02:38 * XorA is going to end up propping up the bar alone at this rate :-) Feb 18 11:03:27 i'm "porting" to OE the neuros OSD, but at now i use the neuros's gcc and all multimedia applications isn't rebuild iside OE, basically with OE i build the base system (busybox, dropbear, glibc, ... ) Feb 18 11:04:10 the device is a multimedia (audio and video) player recorder powered by a DM320 arch (arm9 + TI DSP ) Feb 18 11:05:09 ping rwhitby Feb 18 11:05:21 Laibsch: syn|ack Feb 18 11:05:58 Is 717 ready for SlugOS or do you want amule kept out? Feb 18 11:06:02 i'll test this evening if my last build work ... hopping it's ok ... Feb 18 11:06:10 I have just committed a recipe for amule 2.1.3 Feb 18 11:06:32 would be appreciable to show it at our booth ? Feb 18 11:06:37 gremlin[it]: Using OE that way is fine :) Feb 18 11:07:00 Laibsch: you got wxwidgets 2.8 to build? Feb 18 11:07:24 XorA: No Feb 18 11:07:32 But it looked like it should not be so hard Feb 18 11:07:35 it's anyway a WIP porting :P Feb 18 11:07:55 Laibsch: hahahahahahahahahaahahah Feb 18 11:07:57 I relied on wxbase 2.7 Feb 18 11:08:13 XorA: That version no good without 2.8? Feb 18 11:08:15 Laibsch: I have an almost working 2.8, any version earlier than that and amule is next to useless :-( Feb 18 11:08:21 Laibsch: crashes at random Feb 18 11:08:44 Laibsch: but better than nothing I suppose Feb 18 11:08:49 well, p2p soft is usually not known for its industry-standard stability Feb 18 11:09:01 amule_2.1.3+cvs20080204.bb Feb 18 11:09:19 XorA: If you have stuff in you tree that at least compiles, I'd say you should honour "release often and early" Feb 18 11:10:31 Laibsch: doesnt compile yet as I had to do some nasty work arounds in wxgtk to avoid pulling in some wierd python build system Feb 18 11:11:04 * * OE Bug 717 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Feb 18 11:11:06 well, the 2.1.3 stable compiles nicely Feb 18 11:11:06 * * Include amule package bb files Feb 18 11:11:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=717 Feb 18 11:11:16 XorA: almost no rough edges Feb 18 11:11:30 2.1.3 release tar Feb 18 11:11:43 Laibsch: it compiles, my prediciton is it will run for approx 2 mins if my experience is repeated :-) Feb 18 11:12:01 Laibsch: but someone else can fix that Feb 18 11:12:19 yes Feb 18 11:12:25 Laibsch: I need 2.2.0 as edonkey is now well and truly dead, and kad doesnt work in 2.1.3 Feb 18 11:12:34 I am just fixing open bugs ;-) Feb 18 11:12:50 edonkey is dead? Feb 18 11:13:00 * Laibsch hasn't done p2p for too long ;-) Feb 18 11:13:01 Laibsch: amule is an edonkey client Feb 18 11:13:18 Laibsch: edonkey was forced to close by MPAA/RIAA Feb 18 11:13:30 Laibsch: so the servers are now mostly porno spam Feb 18 11:13:41 Oh, they did succeed after all? Feb 18 11:13:43 Laibsch: but emule has thankfully kept the kad network running Feb 18 11:14:10 Were did they get the network? The servers? Feb 18 11:14:36 Laibsch: they hit the company, the server data centers, and the hash listings Feb 18 11:14:48 Aha Feb 18 11:14:57 * Laibsch was unaware there was a company behind it Feb 18 11:15:11 Laibsch: and the popularity of bittorrent did a load of damage as well Feb 18 11:16:44 but I should be able to finish wxgtk 2.8.7 and amule cvs after FOSDEM Feb 18 11:17:47 I liked the client/server model of mldonkey for the GUI. But their bittorrent client was abyssmal. Anything like that for bittorrent? (control the engine from remote a remote computer) Feb 18 11:17:59 I am aware of screen and friends Feb 18 11:18:56 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r0cfef0fd... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): amule: initial commit. closes 717 for OE. Feb 18 11:19:05 03koen 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * r086bfdcf... 10/ (1 contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh): angstrom feeds: build more packages (java, hildon, etc) Feb 18 11:20:25 Laibsch: I use rtorrent on a zaurus with screen :-) Feb 18 11:20:42 Laibsch: but there are web based bittorrent frontends, but the name escapes me at the moment Feb 18 11:21:25 Laibsch: azureus also has a java applet web front end Feb 18 11:23:23 Laibsch: http://www.torrentflux.com/ remebered it Feb 18 11:23:34 XorA: You are right, there are even quite a bunch: clutch, torrentflux and others Feb 18 11:23:38 XorA: Thanks Feb 18 11:24:01 I'll try clutch first, I think. AFAIK, transmission has become the standard ubuntu torrent client Feb 18 11:24:27 yeah, bad choice from ubuntu :-( Feb 18 11:33:00 OK, why do you prefer rtorrent? Feb 18 11:35:24 XorA: rtorrent seems to support one thing I was looking for: exclusion from downloading of some files in a multi-file torrent Feb 18 11:35:38 I'd yet have to confirm transmission can do that Feb 18 11:35:52 Laibsch: transmission doesnt support DHT so has slow torrent startup Feb 18 11:36:50 Laibsch: rtorrent does with latest version (why I put it in OE) :-) Feb 18 11:39:43 * Laibsch looks at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_software Feb 18 11:40:05 Looks like transmission also has a few features that rtorrent lacks Feb 18 11:40:09 NAT is surely important Feb 18 11:41:09 * XorA has port forwarding Feb 18 11:48:05 * Laibsch too Feb 18 11:48:12 XorA: I agree that DHT is a must Feb 18 11:53:53 * XorA renames #oe to #bestbtclient Feb 18 11:57:18 is kaffee the choice these days Feb 18 11:58:34 03koen 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * rcec3da39... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): Feb 18 11:58:34 angstrom preferred versions: update preferred versions for java and midori Feb 18 11:58:34 Acked-by: Koen, PaulS Feb 18 11:59:04 XorA: I hope #oe can tolerate a bit of off-topic Feb 18 12:03:26 * XorA thinks its lunch time Feb 18 12:05:37 right :-) Feb 18 12:22:04 * * OE Bug 3813 has been created by  Feb 18 12:22:06 * * tor-0.1.1.26-r0-do_install Feb 18 12:22:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3813 Feb 18 13:22:16 anyone here run oprofileui (from o-hand) ? Feb 18 13:48:04 * * OE Bug 3814 has been created by  Feb 18 13:48:07 * * cacao-cldc-0.98-r1-do_compile Feb 18 13:48:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3814 Feb 18 13:48:40 hm Feb 18 14:01:44 RP: #3113 is caused by an incompatible version of renderext in .dev Feb 18 14:15:05 * * OE Bug 3113 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Feb 18 14:15:07 * * xserver-kdrive-xomap-1.1.99.3-r0-do_compile Feb 18 14:15:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3113 Feb 18 14:24:03 * * OE Bug 3815 has been created by  Feb 18 14:24:05 * * enca-1.9-r3-do_configure Feb 18 14:24:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3815 Feb 18 14:36:04 * * OE Bug 3816 has been created by  Feb 18 14:36:05 * * openmoko-panel-gsm-0.1.0+svnr3664-r1-do_install Feb 18 14:36:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3816 Feb 18 14:39:03 * * OE Bug 3817 has been created by  Feb 18 14:39:05 * * gettext-0.14.1-r6-do_populate_staging Feb 18 14:39:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3817 Feb 18 14:41:33 03florian 07org.oe.dev * re60a36ce... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-proto/renderproto_0.9.3.bb): renderproto: Lower preference of v. 0.9.3 since it breaks xserver-kdrive-xomap. Feb 18 14:52:49 florian: ah :/ Feb 18 14:53:11 florian: That could cause a few problems since other may want the more recent version Feb 18 14:53:15 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r12a5f73e... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-2.6.2[34]: rename mpc8313e-rdb LEDs Feb 18 14:53:20 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r7a170f4e... 10/ (1 packages/gtk-webcore/osb-nrcore.inc): osb-ncore: Add missing DEPENDS on gperf-native Feb 18 14:54:36 RP: hrm... that's nasty. we still do not have a way to make versioned dependencies, right? Feb 18 14:55:00 florian: You can add the versioned depends but bitbake will currently ignore it Feb 18 14:55:13 florian: So the metadata can improve but we can't take advantage of it yet Feb 18 14:55:27 I guess I could make bitbake error if it finds a mismatch too Feb 18 14:55:47 RP: ok, not good sice it breaks the builds for two devices. Feb 18 14:56:11 florian: patches welcome for bitbake ;-) Feb 18 14:56:24 RP: we could add the preference info to the machines config... but that's ugly imho Feb 18 14:56:46 florian: yes, we have no neat way of doing it :( Feb 18 14:57:57 RP: If I had a little bit of time yes I would consider to start working on bitbake... :-} Feb 18 14:58:15 florian: even if we could force a given version to build, what happens if a higher version already staged Feb 18 14:58:37 florian: we need packaged staging. Although hopefully that is to become a reality and default soon :) Feb 18 14:58:54 RP: we are lost in this case... currently. I just tried :-) Feb 18 14:59:05 RP: right Feb 18 14:59:30 florian: Why can't it use the higher version? It is just buildtime or a runtime problem too? Feb 18 14:59:48 * florian wonders what builds faster: His workstation or the build blade Feb 18 15:00:33 RP: Its a build time problem... 3113 has the logs. Feb 18 15:01:00 florian: What kind of build blade? Feb 18 15:01:28 RP: a not really up to date HS20 dual CPU machine Feb 18 15:02:43 We merged a big pile of colourful PC hardware into a black... eh now gray Bladecenter. Feb 18 15:02:44 * RP is quiet impressed with his quad core Feb 18 15:03:02 florian: :) Feb 18 15:05:25 florian: ./packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive/fix-picturestr-include-order.patch doesnt fix the same bug does it? Feb 18 15:06:40 XorA: the description looks good... i'll try Feb 18 15:07:01 florian: xserver-kdrive-imageon suffered the same issue I think Feb 18 15:24:15 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r22d706df... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-2.6.23: for mpc8313e-rdb, modularise kernel some more to reduce size Feb 18 15:26:53 mickeyl: Are you better now? Feb 18 15:27:29 I was looking through our really big patches (100K+) Feb 18 15:27:45 Is the xorg-xserver w100 driver ready to be pushed upstream? Feb 18 15:28:05 hi Laibsch, yeah, much better today. i can see more clearly and my head feels less like a punching ball Feb 18 15:28:22 mickeyl: Great, I am glad to hear Feb 18 15:28:23 hmm w100 driver... we need to ask sirfred on that iirc Feb 18 15:28:30 Laibsch: which w100 driver is the problem Feb 18 15:28:43 XorA: the big one ;-) Feb 18 15:28:51 seriously, there is more than one? Feb 18 15:29:02 Laibsch: there is w100 and imageon drivers, one does both, and the other does one AFAIR Feb 18 15:30:08 XorA: http://rafb.net/p/rchbox40.html Feb 18 15:30:22 I am open to pushing them both upstream Feb 18 15:30:33 Like I said, I was just looking for big patches Feb 18 15:30:42 To get as much as possible out of the way Feb 18 15:31:04 * * OE Bug 3818 has been created by  Feb 18 15:31:06 * * quasar-0.8+0.9beta3-r0-do_configure Feb 18 15:31:06 Laibsch: they probably both need fixing before thry go up Feb 18 15:31:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3818 Feb 18 15:31:58 XorA: What is a good candidate for pushing upstream IYO? Feb 18 15:32:04 * * OE Bug 3819 has been created by  Feb 18 15:32:06 * * wpa-gui-0.4.8-r1-do_configure Feb 18 15:32:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3819 Feb 18 15:32:14 generally, a patch from any project Feb 18 15:32:37 Laibsch: all our xorg stuff needs to go up Feb 18 15:32:55 Laibsch: but probably all needs some negotiation Feb 18 15:33:38 about what? Feb 18 15:33:42 price? ;-) Feb 18 15:35:04 * * OE Bug 3820 has been created by  Feb 18 15:35:06 * * rt73-k2wrlz-2.0.1-r0-do_compile Feb 18 15:35:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3820 Feb 18 15:35:16 * * OE Bug 3821 has been created by  Feb 18 15:35:18 * * rt2570-1.1.0-b2-r0-do_compile Feb 18 15:35:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3821 Feb 18 15:36:04 * * OE Bug 3822 has been created by  Feb 18 15:36:06 * * rt2570-k2wrlz-1.6.1-r0-do_compile Feb 18 15:36:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3822 Feb 18 15:36:48 Laibsch: some are controversial like imageon patch Feb 18 15:37:06 XorA: well, I guess the upstream guys would tell us Feb 18 15:37:37 and I guess kdrive is always going to be a problem as there is zero QA done on that before release :-) Feb 18 15:37:42 Laibsch: I know a bit about the xorg stuff and most stuff isn't upstream for a reason Feb 18 15:38:43 Laibsch: The big patches have some prerequistes to handle different memory types and they weren't accepted :( Feb 18 15:38:51 * mwester considers Laibsch's comment: "price?" and contemplates the new opensource model for patches: bribery! :-D Feb 18 15:39:10 Laibsch: Until they are accepted the big patch can't even be considered Feb 18 15:39:23 good mornin' Feb 18 15:39:38 mwester: morning Feb 18 15:39:39 RP: Can you mark those as "upstream: OE-local hack only until XY" when you find time? Feb 18 15:39:51 Laibsch: The calibration ones show be upsteam now and if OE updates the versions used, can be removed. Poky already has done that Feb 18 15:39:59 Laibsch: I will try and remember Feb 18 15:40:04 nice Feb 18 15:40:09 hi mwester Feb 18 15:40:52 yo mwester Feb 18 15:41:05 * * OE Bug 3823 has been created by  Feb 18 15:41:07 * * djvulibre-3.5.19-r0-do_install Feb 18 15:41:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3823 Feb 18 15:41:23 RP: did poky patch xorg 1.4 or stay at 1.3 for the tslib screwups? Feb 18 15:41:27 Laibsch: One nice cleanup would be to find the patches in xorg-lib which aren't actually used anymore Feb 18 15:41:53 XorA: Stay at 1.3 until after we release at which point we might try and make 1.4 work Feb 18 15:41:55 RP: That should be rather quick Feb 18 15:42:04 * * OE Bug 3824 has been created by  Feb 18 15:42:06 * * uqtreader-1.2.2opie+cvs20070601-r3-do_configure Feb 18 15:42:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3824 Feb 18 15:42:41 http://rafb.net/p/UeQz3T18.html is a list of patches bigger than 99k Feb 18 15:43:09 RP: Just patches or files in general? Feb 18 15:43:44 Laibsch: There are a ton of patch directories there and I suspect a lot are duplicated or aren't needed anymore Feb 18 15:44:19 OK, duplicates first Feb 18 15:44:50 Laibsch: See what poky did with diet-x11 and libx11 for example Feb 18 15:45:42 RP: Not so many dupes Feb 18 15:45:49 6 files with two occurrences each Feb 18 15:46:00 that's actually not too bad Feb 18 15:46:07 * Laibsch nods Feb 18 15:46:10 i think we can safely ignore all the linux 2.4 patches Feb 18 15:46:29 the qte one will never land in mainline Feb 18 15:46:31 Laibsch: Thats the xorg-lib directory or the OE tree in total? Feb 18 15:46:36 mplayer and xine are problematic Feb 18 15:46:38 yes Feb 18 15:46:53 find packages/xorg-lib/ -type f -exec md5sum {} \;|sort|cut -f 1 -d " "|uniq -dc|wc -l Feb 18 15:47:06 find packages/xorg-lib/ -type f -exec md5sum {} \;|sort|cut -f 1 -d " "|uniq -dc Feb 18 15:47:22 the latter line tells you they all have two occurrences Feb 18 15:47:23 the qte w100 patch doesnt work Feb 18 15:47:27 I think there are some which are the same with different headers... Feb 18 15:47:36 i think the ones we should concentrate on are things called "configure.patch; autofoo.patch; m4.patch, ...". Those are actual buildsystem patches and not feature patches which mean they could land in upstream relatively easily Feb 18 15:47:38 RP: OK, that might always be Feb 18 15:47:40 (at least i hope so) Feb 18 15:47:48 * mwester wonders if anyone has looked at the little itty-bitty patches that fix autoconf and makefiles and such, to see if we can subsume some of those into the actual bitbake recipe (by adding custom "do_*" code...) Feb 18 15:48:15 * mwester is guilty of whipping up a patch rather than spending a lot of effort to see if the problem can be overridden from the recipe... Feb 18 15:48:18 mwester: righto. i'm doing this once in a while (i.e. just calling 'sed' to remove something instead of patching) Feb 18 15:48:37 is sed preferred over patching? Feb 18 15:48:45 That's a good question... Feb 18 15:48:58 it depends on whether there's a chance to get stuff upstream or not Feb 18 15:49:07 that mplayer patch looks like it would probably get into mplayer fairly easilly, but it should come from original author Feb 18 15:49:21 XorA: who is that? Feb 18 15:49:27 mwester: Fixing the problems upstream is better than hacking around in the recipe though Feb 18 15:49:33 Laibsch: no idea, some avr32 project I guess Feb 18 15:49:46 XorA: who checked it in? Feb 18 15:50:03 koen Feb 18 15:50:33 hi Feb 18 15:50:55 packages/dillo/dillo2-0.6.6/gtk2.patch is a dead patch upstream doesnt even exist anymore Feb 18 15:54:22 XorA: Can you mark it? Feb 18 15:54:41 mickeyl: bug 3825 Feb 18 15:54:46 !oebug 3825 Feb 18 15:54:47 * * Bug 3825, Status: NEW, Created: 2008-02-18 15:53 Feb 18 15:54:49 * * : m4.patch files to be pushed upstream Feb 18 15:54:49 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3825 Feb 18 15:55:02 I'll do the other file types, too Feb 18 15:55:07 So there is a todo list Feb 18 15:56:05 * * OE Bug 3825 has been created by  Feb 18 15:56:06 * * m4.patch files to be pushed upstream Feb 18 15:56:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3825 Feb 18 15:57:05 * * OE Bug 3826 has been created by  Feb 18 15:57:07 * * m4.patch files to be pushed upstream Feb 18 15:57:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3826 Feb 18 16:02:05 * * OE Bug 3827 has been created by  Feb 18 16:02:07 * * liburiparser-0.5.1-r0-do_populate_staging Feb 18 16:02:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3827 Feb 18 16:02:16 * * OE Bug 3828 has been created by  Feb 18 16:02:18 * * m4.patch files to be pushed upstream Feb 18 16:02:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3828 Feb 18 16:07:13 morning Feb 18 16:07:50 RP: I guess there really cannot be that many essential dupes in xorg-lib Feb 18 16:07:52 http://rafb.net/p/BdCWEx63.html Feb 18 16:10:10 Laibsch: Perhaps not. I'll have a look and see if I can clean anything up... **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 18 18:44:15 2008 Feb 18 18:47:05 * * OE Bug 3829 has been created by  Feb 18 18:47:07 * * cacao-cldc-0.98-r1-do_configure **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Feb 18 18:47:08 2008 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 18 19:56:14 2008 Feb 18 19:59:05 * * OE Bug 3830 has been created by  Feb 18 19:59:07 * * ntp-4.2.2p3-r1-do_install Feb 18 19:59:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3830 Feb 18 20:00:04 * * OE Bug 3831 has been created by  Feb 18 20:00:06 * * gst-plugins-good-0.10.6-r3-do_populate_staging Feb 18 20:00:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3831 Feb 18 20:06:41 brb Feb 18 20:10:54 * mwester agrees with mickeyl; the busybox changes are a case in point where the bleed between angstrom and openmoko was a bit more painful than necessary. Feb 18 20:11:28 mwester: can you help me? Feb 18 20:11:37 I think I should just scrap my tmp folder now, and rebuild from scratch. :( Feb 18 20:12:00 scant: Dunno, don't know what you need help with. Feb 18 20:12:19 mwester: i moved from unslung to slugosbe Feb 18 20:13:28 mwester: the apcupsd optware package works with slugosbe, but i've been trying to get some of the packages i use as openembedded Feb 18 20:14:18 ok Feb 18 20:15:14 mwester: with various peoples help ive gotten a lot done, like flac and mpd Feb 18 20:15:28 mwester: but my apcupsd bb file doesn't work Feb 18 20:15:45 mwester: i think RP said it had to do with autoconf not working or running Feb 18 20:17:56 Does autoconf work outside of OE (i.e. if you generate the configure script et al from your native host)? Feb 18 20:18:58 i don't know, how can i tell? Feb 18 20:20:09 mwester, what was the issue with the busy box chnges? Feb 18 20:21:03 They were a) unexpected, and b) busybox was broken Feb 18 20:21:37 :) Feb 18 20:22:08 part of the problem is there are so many things going on, it is really hard to keep up Feb 18 20:22:17 It looks like there's a patch that fixed it (adduser takes long options now), but it was just a huge groan as it disrupted my debugging of another problem... No Big Deal, just an example of the bleed-through. Feb 18 20:23:12 yeah Feb 18 20:23:27 It is hard to keep up, and I guess from where I sit, a lot of the discussion that used to be on the OE mailing lists about commits and changes seems to have moved to the angstrom lists... Feb 18 20:23:37 ah Feb 18 20:23:39 good point Feb 18 20:24:58 mwester: you still there? Feb 18 20:25:22 scant: unpack the tar file, delete the "configure" script, and see if you can get the GNU autoconf tools to regenerate the configure script, and then configure, and build the app. That's basically what OE does, only OE does it with cross tools. So if it won't work natively, it certianly won't work in OE. Feb 18 20:27:31 I think the original source file is usually configure.am or similar... if there is no source file that creates the configure script (i.e. the configure script is written by hand), then send a nastygram to the author (!) and you'll have to add a custom "do_configure" step in that recipe. Feb 18 20:30:02 mwester: i ran autoconf configure.in and it errored and said 'possibly undefined macro' Feb 18 20:38:17 Well, you'll have to figure out what's going on there, and fix it. Feb 18 20:39:24 Note that in the OE environment you'll have a different set of tools with different versions, so autoconf there may have its own set of problems. Those will need patches or possibly alternate recipes for building or configuring in OE. Feb 18 20:51:25 is there a way to make sure packages are done installing before ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMANDs are executed? I'm getting this: http://rafb.net/p/Li2M4d45.html which I believe is coming from "set_image_autologin" Feb 18 21:33:25 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r7c0a885d... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc): preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: prefer libtool 1.5.24 (PA 0.9.9 needs it) Feb 18 21:33:29 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r706fd42c... 10/ (1 packages/maemo4/osso-gnome-vfs2_2.16.3.bb): osso-gnome-vfs2: Move include to fix SRC_URI. Feb 18 21:33:34 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r65bd6ff9... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs.inc : bump OM kernel to get SD working Feb 18 21:33:39 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r0c9d8645... 10/ (1 packages/gtk-webcore/osb-nrcore.inc): osb-nrcore: Disable PARALLEL_MAKE as it breaks with it set. Feb 18 21:33:49 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r43addc77... 10/ (13 files in 6 dirs): calibrateproto, libxcalibrate: Update recipes to SRCREV and a new tag since the patches were merged upstream Feb 18 21:33:49 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r0ab238b9... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Feb 18 21:33:49 linux-2.6.24: improve mpc8313e-rdb support Feb 18 21:33:49 * apply patch for NAND controller Feb 18 21:33:49 * modularise kernel some more to reduce kernel size Feb 18 21:33:53 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r8b854b2b... 10/ (5 files in 5 dirs): xorg-lib: push a couple of autofoo patches upstream. partly closes 3828. Feb 18 21:33:57 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r5b06f0eb... 10/ (1 conf/distro/openmoko.conf): Feb 18 21:33:57 openmoko.conf: change OVERRIDES line to catch up with DISTRO = angstrom in angstrom.inc Feb 18 21:33:58 * We need an openmoko override for where we diverge from Angstrom. Feb 18 21:34:02 03pfalcon 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * r17186655... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Feb 18 21:34:02 applied changes from e2d31688a9fdad7d686402b98de5719584b3e09e Feb 18 21:34:04 through 28e2872ee9420efa1c6785b37d88314496a12175 Feb 18 21:34:06 kexec-tools: Add support for ARM atags allowing the commandline to be set (PaulS, Koen) Feb 18 21:34:10 03pfalcon 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * rdf7b01d2... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Feb 18 21:34:12 applied changes from 1be7d4d46464a58e8c1173f4199c4e064d787854 Feb 18 21:34:14 through af267d79107d9258fec25067e3ac6765f2ba9cc6 Feb 18 21:34:16 kexec-tools: unify (PaulS, Koen) Feb 18 21:34:18 03pfalcon 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * rb0da22c1... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Feb 18 21:34:20 applied changes from af267d79107d9258fec25067e3ac6765f2ba9cc6 Feb 18 21:34:22 through f5ac91666271607b6fb0d8186495c57e9a4c5b01 Feb 18 21:34:24 kexec-tools: add static version. partly closes 3739. (PaulS, Koen) Feb 18 21:34:28 03pfalcon 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * r3ec5b70f... 10/ (1 BACKPORTS.txt): BACKPORTS.txt: Record kexec backports. Feb 18 22:01:01 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r6d8c580c... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): Hastily reverting back to a version of the kernel that will not risk corrupting SD cards. Feb 18 22:10:56 re Feb 18 22:34:08 ljp: hey :) Feb 18 22:42:50 hi Feb 18 22:44:30 ljp: You have seen the news? Qtopia/X11 is a lot more easy than in 2002 :) Feb 18 22:45:06 yes, I know Feb 18 22:45:20 we did sone owrk for a demo Feb 18 22:45:21 ljp: thanks to whoever was involved in writing a QCOP wrapper, making the softmenu work Feb 18 22:45:31 rhys Feb 18 22:46:51 ljp: my configure patch is a bit hacky, I have a proper fix to make all of the examples compile Feb 18 22:47:33 ljp: I think I will mostly struggle with ARGB and XRender Feb 18 22:47:44 used to be easier as it took one edit Feb 18 22:48:54 ljp: The cool thing is XorA and me will add Qtopia to OE in a proper way, need to play some tricks on Trolltech to swallow the changes but I have my plan :) Feb 18 22:49:16 hmm Feb 18 22:50:27 you still working for TT? Feb 18 22:52:23 ljp: The switch from GMIT to TT failed or is postponed Feb 18 22:56:40 auch wenn das modem nicht ins gehaeuse passt Feb 18 23:00:46 mickey|dinner: Do we need to bump PREFERRED_VERSION for libtool-cross and libtool-native to 1.5.24 along with libtool? (OpenMoko) Feb 18 23:03:01 Laibsch: All the autofoo patches don't seem to get applied anymore in xorg-lib Feb 18 23:03:22 mickey|dinner, why did you need to upgrade to libtool-1.5.24? Feb 18 23:06:32 Crofton: pulseaudio 9.9 Feb 18 23:08:07 http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/137 Feb 18 23:10:36 thanks Feb 18 23:10:57 I had issues with the older libtool on some netfilter packages Feb 18 23:11:10 but the newer one had issues with c++ on efika Feb 18 23:11:39 Ouch. That's probably why the preference was set to -1, then. Feb 18 23:14:49 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb3b92a70... 10/ (1 packages/psplash/files/logo-math.patch): psplash: Note upstream ref for logo-math.patch. Feb 18 23:15:00 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r6b3553fa... 10/ (35 files in 21 dirs): xorg-lib: Drop some unused patches Feb 18 23:15:53 yep Feb 18 23:16:09 I am not exactly unhappy there is pressure to get the rev up Feb 18 23:17:02 libtool is painful :/ Feb 18 23:18:43 gm Feb 18 23:18:43 there are newer versions now Feb 18 23:18:57 heh, thanks Paul. Feb 18 23:18:58 this is an area we need to get some patches upstream ... Feb 18 23:19:10 Paul filed that against poky... Feb 18 23:21:49 RP: hi, with that initramfs galore the Zaurus will boot over 3 kernels it seems... Feb 18 23:22:06 RP: not exactly the "usual" way Feb 18 23:22:26 ant_: I don't understand what you mean Feb 18 23:22:40 RP: I was lurking in openmoko and for the neo Feb 18 23:22:51 RP: them for the router devices Feb 18 23:22:56 RP: *then Feb 18 23:23:03 RP: all are using u-boot Feb 18 23:23:14 RP: even gumstix Feb 18 23:23:20 ant_: so your point? Feb 18 23:23:27 RP: why the Zaurus? Feb 18 23:23:45 RP: so cumbersome... Feb 18 23:24:26 * ant_ thinks the normal users never fiddle with nand backup/restore or emergency kernels Feb 18 23:24:29 ant_: I have no intention of spending any of my time dealing with changing something that basically works or fixing all the fallout from users from who break devices Feb 18 23:24:43 RP: ^^^ Feb 18 23:24:45 ant_: kexec gives us all we need Feb 18 23:24:57 ant_: ^^^ Feb 18 23:25:09 RP: =) Feb 18 23:34:01 Laibsch: xorg-lib is a lot cleaner now ;-) Feb 18 23:35:40 RP: sorry to bother you again ^^^: for ati w100 why are there two drivers to mantain? Feb 18 23:38:44 Laibsch: why do some machines use xserver-kdrive-imageon and others xserver-kdrive-w100 ? Feb 18 23:50:23 RP: before the autobilder fires a bug: ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gpe-session-scripts: libxcalibrate0 (>= 0.0+git20070802) Feb 18 23:50:47 RP: Revision: 43addc773eb2d829793d8d5a25ea84a32b61f665 ? Feb 18 23:52:08 ant_: Which distro? Feb 18 23:52:20 RP angstrom-2008.1 Feb 18 23:52:35 Also observed in openmoko Feb 18 23:52:44 (fyi) Feb 18 23:53:13 ant_, mwester: Which bitbake? Feb 18 23:53:27 RP: BB_VERSION = "1.8.11" Feb 18 23:53:49 RP OE_REVISION = "eec0cf22d27780a5209f4aad8fee7ddaa6bb80a0" Feb 18 23:54:09 1.8.10 Feb 18 23:56:27 03florian 07org.oe.dev * raf592871... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): xserver-kdrive-xomap: use fix-picturestr-include-order patch to fix compatibility with more modern xrender Feb 18 23:56:39 03florian 07org.oe.dev * reef92449... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-proto/renderproto_0.9.3.bb): renderproto: remove default preference after fixing xserv-kdrive-xomap Feb 18 23:56:49 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r4bfcfd2e... 10/ (1 conf/machine/nokia770.conf): nokia770.conf: Fix virtual/xserver Feb 18 23:56:56 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * reec0cf22... 10/ (30 files in 8 dirs): xorg-lib: Remove unused patches, combine diet-x11 and libx11 patches into the same place Feb 19 00:00:58 So just to check my reasoning, which sorts higher, 0.0+git20070802 or 0.0-oe1-xyz ? Feb 19 00:05:48 Good question. Don't remember which order "+" and "-" sort in, and I'm not sure if bitbake uses "-" as a separator in this case, but a human being would usually say that oel would follow git in the sort order. Feb 19 00:06:22 mwester: - should be higher than + and is according to ipkg-compare-versions.c Feb 19 00:06:39 mwester: I think something things it isn't though :/ Feb 19 00:16:32 ipkg is so so broken :( Feb 19 00:17:26 RP: There are heros out there who work on replacing it :) Feb 19 00:17:49 florian: I know some of them ;-) Feb 19 00:18:11 :-) Feb 19 00:20:00 hrm... looks like we need virtual/gnome-vfs now Feb 19 00:21:38 we could switch from ipkg to rpm Feb 19 00:21:44 * mwester ducks Feb 19 00:22:12 mwester: didn't people rplace this in most of the interesting distributions? ;) Feb 19 00:23:16 * mwester pats his Fedora install DVDs, and says "there, there, he didn't mean that!" Feb 19 00:24:42 * ant_ wonders how far in the paste is the fork with Gentoo... Feb 19 00:25:26 * RP cuts and pastes from dpkg into ipkg Feb 19 00:26:20 * RP is amazed that worked Feb 19 00:27:56 RP: :) Feb 19 00:33:38 * florian wonders what pulls in all this maemo stuff into the x11 image builds Feb 19 00:36:59 mwester: no need to set libtool-native and/or libtool-cross. In fact, updating one of these will break the whole distro, so I'd advise against that... Feb 19 00:37:14 mwester: PA only needs libltdl 1.5.24 @ runtime. Feb 19 00:37:18 g'night Feb 19 00:37:40 mickey|dinner: Thanks Feb 19 00:39:00 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r472140e2... 10/ (1 packages/maemo4/libosso.inc): libosso: Adjust dependencies Feb 19 00:39:09 03florian 07org.oe.dev * raea47c0e... 10/ (1 packages/maemo4/libhildonmime_1.10.0.bb): libhildonmime: Set extra config flag to avoid -Werror to get used. Feb 19 00:39:18 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r452752a8... 10/ (1 packages/maemo4/hildon-thumbnail_0.14.bb): hildon-thumbnail: Add missing dependencies... Feb 19 00:39:28 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rbd3711fb... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): ipkg: Partially fix broken version comparisions Feb 19 00:47:29 gn Feb 19 00:48:08 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc8ce15d8... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): python-dbus 0.81.1 update to 0.82.4, patches no longer necessary Feb 19 00:56:59 mwester: mtn up and the modified ipkg should resolve the problem. opkg may need a similar fix but for now I need sleep Feb 19 01:03:32 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd4732f85... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): ipkg: Enable debian revision comparing Feb 19 02:34:16 evening Feb 19 02:34:45 is the environment shown on http://handhelds.org/scap/ just a regular gnome install? Feb 19 02:35:52 or a new version of gpe? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 19 02:59:56 2008