**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 20 02:59:57 2008 Feb 20 06:29:08 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * refb6794f... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Feb 20 06:29:08 altboot: RRECOMMENDS e2fsprogs-mke2fs, bump PR Feb 20 06:29:08 * e2fsprogs-mke2fs is needed to generate loop-image Feb 20 06:34:04 * * OE Bug 3834 has been created by diegor(AT)tiscali.it Feb 20 06:34:06 * * build failed Feb 20 06:34:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3834 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 20 06:49:07 2008 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 20 07:02:15 2008 Feb 20 07:04:21 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r934db206... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Feb 20 07:04:21 navit: new upstream release 0.0.4 Feb 20 07:04:21 * bump 0.0.3 to 0.0.4, which is the last alpha release Feb 20 07:04:21 * bump cvs to 0.1.0cvs, add DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1" Feb 20 07:36:13 xjqian: FYI, your mails to the lists are showing up multiple times Feb 20 09:23:23 good morning Feb 20 10:39:00 morning flo Feb 20 11:03:38 hi everybody Feb 20 11:11:37 yo thesing Feb 20 11:19:06 re Feb 20 11:41:42 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r985da843... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): zziplib: Added patch to disable non-compiling test. Feb 20 11:41:51 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r985da843... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): zziplib: Added patch to disable non-compiling test. Feb 20 11:43:45 morning Feb 20 11:58:46 can a package RDEPEND on a specific version of another package? Feb 20 12:00:55 thesing: it can but you should be careful about specifying this in the recipe Feb 20 12:01:25 thesing: another distro builder may want to use a different version than you Feb 20 12:01:33 rschuster: ok how is the exact syntax? Feb 20 12:02:01 RDEPENDS = "foo (= 1.3)" Feb 20 12:02:20 but this is a bad example Feb 20 12:02:32 it will fail even if the REVISION is different Feb 20 12:02:46 (for "foo") Feb 20 12:02:54 rschuster: not in my case: the klibc utils depend on the version of klibc they were compiled against. (they even append a hash to klibc to ensure that) Feb 20 12:03:41 thesing: if your app is compiled and linked (as in C/C++) OE will automatically add those to the dependencies of your package Feb 20 12:03:56 thesing: through the shlibs mechanism Feb 20 12:04:31 rschuster: it should but it doesn't do it in my case. Maybe its because klibc and klibc-utils are in one bb-file. Feb 20 12:05:50 thesing: it will also fail if dlopen() is used Feb 20 12:06:37 rschuster: I think they use klibc as a loader too. Feb 20 12:07:02 if the utils are in the same recipe than you may write it as such Feb 20 12:07:02 RDEPENDS_${PN}-utils = "${PN} (=> ${PV})" Feb 20 12:07:02 (assuming that PN is klibc) Feb 20 12:08:08 does RDEPENDS_${PN}-utils-* = "${PN} (=> ${PV})" work too? Feb 20 12:09:22 thesing: I don't believe it will but you can always use a bit of python magic to generate lots of variable names programmatically Feb 20 12:11:17 I did "RDEPENDS ="klibc"; RDEPENDS_klibc = "" without any python magic. ,) Feb 20 12:16:05 * * OE Bug 3203 has been REOPENED by folkertvanderbeek(AT)gmail.com Feb 20 12:16:07 * * updater.sh.tosa is a forbidden file Feb 20 12:16:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3203 Feb 20 12:16:17 thesing: nice, some people get the creeps if there is too much python trickery in a recipe :) Feb 20 12:56:04 * * OE Bug 3835 has been created by misha.penkov(AT)gmail.com Feb 20 12:56:06 * * gettext-native_0.14.1 fails do_configure Feb 20 12:56:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3835 Feb 20 14:50:24 morning Feb 20 14:50:57 hi chouimat Feb 20 14:55:00 about an hour before I start heading to FOSDEM .... Feb 20 14:55:58 hallo rschuster Feb 20 14:56:08 hi woglinde Feb 20 14:57:36 rschuster hm what you mean should we pin cacao-hg as the default, so other archs than x86 and arm can be compiled Feb 20 14:58:04 Crofton: I have a poodle for you Feb 20 14:58:11 excellent Feb 20 14:58:23 I wonder if they will quarantine it? Feb 20 14:59:30 I suppose we will be drinking beer on Friday night? Feb 20 14:59:47 woglinde: what do you mean? Feb 20 14:59:59 If I do not see you guys Friday, I'll se you at breakfast Saturday Feb 20 15:00:20 I want to see the PS3 talk, so I'll need to get to FOSDEM "early" Feb 20 15:00:32 AFAIK cacao is only available as version 0.98+hg20071001 Feb 20 15:00:50 hm okay Feb 20 15:00:59 cacao-clcd than Feb 20 15:01:03 and that is a version that works with ... Feb 20 15:01:07 ah yes Feb 20 15:01:23 yes, cacao cldc should be brought to the same source level IMHO Feb 20 15:01:31 Crofton: I assume we shall try and get together for beer on friday Feb 20 15:01:47 never revisions also contains fixes that make compilation against midpath easier Feb 20 15:01:58 yes Feb 20 15:02:07 hopefully the new place is easier to get around in Feb 20 15:03:09 woglinde: meaning less patches are neccessary mainly Feb 20 15:03:42 rschuster hm I will test with the actual hg snapshot and then bumb Feb 20 15:03:50 bump even Feb 20 15:03:52 woglinde: it would be nice if we could tweak cacao-cldc' native library loading mechanism to include ${libdir_jni} Feb 20 15:04:10 Crofton: what time to you arrive at brussels airport? Feb 20 15:04:55 woglinde: that isnt as easy as in cacao-j2se because there is no java.library.path. I once had a patch for that ... Feb 20 15:05:18 10 AM tomorrow Feb 20 15:05:22 hm boot-path is no option? Feb 20 15:05:28 Crofton: a whole day early, thats eager :-D Feb 20 15:05:42 I'm going to drive into France and look for my grnadfathers brothers grave Feb 20 15:05:50 gives me some time to get over jet lag Feb 20 15:06:08 woglinde: doesn't exist either. the only possibility is to use LD_LIBRARY_PATH which I find is quite cumbersome Feb 20 15:06:40 packing up my valuable currency reserves Feb 20 15:06:47 Crofton: do you still have that photo of me kicking around? Feb 20 15:07:01 Crofton: from last year Feb 20 15:07:03 probably Feb 20 15:07:08 which one? Feb 20 15:07:29 the one we used to ID me to vivijim, i think going across a road Feb 20 15:07:30 all photos of you are distrubingly similar Feb 20 15:07:33 ah Feb 20 15:07:35 yeah Feb 20 15:07:39 but any one will do Feb 20 15:08:05 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/405228464/in/set-72157594561002629/ Feb 20 15:13:57 hmm, PS3 talk is at 2 PM Feb 20 15:15:05 not that early then Feb 20 15:23:26 yeah Feb 20 15:23:39 jo zecke Feb 20 15:23:41 I forgot the sessions start in the afternoon Feb 20 15:23:47 only main track stuff in the am Feb 20 15:23:56 we should watch the FOSDEM dance though Feb 20 15:24:31 Crofton: we will watch you doing this on friday evening Feb 20 15:24:36 hi, all! how often autobuilder is executed and where to get logs? Feb 20 15:24:50 :) Feb 20 15:25:17 the friday night FOSDEM dance involves shuffling to the bar to get more beer Feb 20 15:40:44 RP: http://rafb.net/p/81clDR40.html Problem mit staging? Feb 20 16:01:57 oh, suck..... Feb 20 16:02:01 oops Feb 20 16:02:01 sorry Feb 20 16:07:37 Laibsch: Yes, something went wrong and it can't find a file it wants Feb 20 16:07:48 Laibsch: I'm not sure what :/ Feb 20 16:07:52 Hehe Feb 20 16:08:04 Let me know if you have an idea what to look for Feb 20 16:08:36 Maybe you feel inclined to try and reproduce that chain of commands Feb 20 16:08:58 Laibsch: Does the "python-profile" package exist anywhere in deploy? Feb 20 16:09:43 Laibsch: I want to do a few other things before I get into debugging specific cases like that Feb 20 16:10:12 ../../tmp/sonkei-0.0.1/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv5te/python-profile_2.5.1-ml7_armv5te.ipk Feb 20 16:25:23 Laibsch: Did you try building a different version? Feb 20 16:25:39 Is that why ml10 became ml7 ? Feb 20 16:28:49 RP: AFAICS, there is no different version Feb 20 16:32:01 Laibsch: at the top of your pastebin, some files are packaged into ml7, some into ml10. Offhand do you know why? Feb 20 16:32:12 I guess I should find the recipe... Feb 20 16:33:31 RP: python seems to be ml10 Feb 20 16:33:46 the rest of the python stuff is at ml7 Feb 20 16:34:00 it seems that this python manifest file is where this is defined Feb 20 16:34:04 * * OE Bug 670 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Feb 20 16:34:06 * * cpp should RDEPEND on gcc Feb 20 16:34:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670 Feb 20 16:34:10 mickey|zzZZzz: Any hints? Feb 20 16:34:24 http://rafb.net/p/81clDR40.html Feb 20 16:36:51 python subpackages are individually versioned Feb 20 17:02:00 Laibsch: I will look into that but not just at the moment Feb 20 17:02:37 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9a694dbd... 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Feb 20 17:02:37 gcc 4.x.x ship cc1 as part of the cpp package. closes #670 Feb 20 17:02:37 repair badly mixed up formatting. guys, _please_ don't mix tabs and spaces, Feb 20 17:02:37 stick to the major formatting style in the file Feb 20 17:09:01 made it through security Feb 20 17:22:12 good Feb 20 17:22:18 looking forward to see you again Feb 20 17:22:24 have a safe trip Feb 20 17:23:16 thanks! Feb 20 17:23:49 Crofton: deliver the package in time ;) Feb 20 17:42:44 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rabff11b5... 10/ (1 packages/dbus/dbus.inc): dbus repair building 1.0.2 Feb 20 17:43:31 cool gcc4.3 has been branched Feb 20 17:43:47 means 3-4 weeks? Feb 20 17:43:55 args Feb 20 17:43:58 false friends Feb 20 17:44:13 ? Feb 20 17:44:19 means Feb 20 17:44:44 so it will last 3-4 to weeks until 4.3 is released Feb 20 17:44:51 so thats better english Feb 20 17:47:45 FOSDEM goers: I hear Visa cards are not accepted most places in Belgium, is this true? This could cause some trouble for me. Feb 20 17:47:59 apaulsen, you going? Feb 20 17:48:04 Visa should be fine Feb 20 17:48:05 Crofton: yes Feb 20 17:48:06 I think Feb 20 17:48:09 awesome Feb 20 17:48:15 When do you arrive? Feb 20 17:48:18 myself and a coworker Feb 20 17:48:26 we're arriving friday afternoon Feb 20 17:48:54 Where are you staying? Feb 20 17:49:15 has anyone gotten 'entrance' from e17 to build? It fails in both dev and stable. Error is that esmart requires >= 0.9.0, but esmart_cvs (0.9.0 +) builds fine Feb 20 17:49:39 Crofton: Le Chatelain, it's really close to the university Feb 20 17:50:03 ah Feb 20 17:50:08 We are all downtown Feb 20 17:50:16 Will you be at the beer event? Feb 20 17:50:32 You can ride the subway downtown Feb 20 17:51:04 apaulsen, I am about to get on a plane Feb 20 17:51:04 * * OE Bug 500 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Feb 20 17:51:06 * * some SDL programs won't compile because SDL_CONFIG isn't set Feb 20 17:51:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=500 Feb 20 17:51:23 but you can make arrangements to meet with the other guys here Feb 20 17:51:28 look forward to meeting you! Feb 20 18:17:53 hi all Feb 20 18:37:09 bbl Feb 20 18:46:56 what recipe builds oe toolchain? Feb 20 18:55:17 Is it possible to have a tar.gz in the SRC_URI that isn't extracted? Feb 20 19:01:14 tartarus whats the sin? Feb 20 19:01:55 woglinde, I'm modifying udev to have a tarball w/ dev entries Feb 20 19:02:02 just wanna deal w/ it in the install stage Feb 20 19:02:36 thats not what SRC_URI is for Feb 20 19:02:56 put the udev.tar.gz in the tar.gz you installing from Feb 20 19:03:08 er Feb 20 19:03:12 than you can tweak do_stage or you image_stage Feb 20 19:03:21 I'm not modifying upstream's udev tarball Feb 20 19:03:29 I just wanna list this as a tarball to use as well Feb 20 19:03:35 than handle it in your image stage Feb 20 19:03:41 where would I list it so it ends up in ${WORKDIR} ? Feb 20 19:06:34 Or how would I modify the image_stage? Feb 20 19:07:18 Hm I would write my own image-recipe which unpacks the udev Feb 20 19:07:26 .tar.gz Feb 20 19:07:31 with the devices Feb 20 19:07:36 Right, but how would I list it in the recipe? Feb 20 19:07:54 Only method for listing "sources" to use I know of is SRC_URI Feb 20 19:08:49 look at the image-recipes the differ from package recipes Feb 20 19:09:57 re zecke Feb 20 19:11:17 * chouimat|work wonders if ordering a ngw100 or a stk1000 worth the price Feb 20 19:15:41 woglinde, do you have an example that mungs around with a tarball? I've found a few useful things to throw into these images, but I don't see how to tell it here's my devs tarball Feb 20 19:15:42 thanks again :) Feb 20 19:18:32 hmm...anyone else know if Visa cards work in in Belgium? Feb 20 19:18:45 i used one ages ago Feb 20 19:29:21 Tartarus visa should work Feb 20 19:31:30 europe like's eurocard :) Feb 20 19:31:36 hi khem Feb 20 19:33:30 woglinde, it was apaulsen's question :) but yeah Feb 20 19:34:53 bye Feb 20 19:35:07 Tartarus ups sorry Feb 20 19:38:54 thanks guys, I guess I'll hope for the best then - I can't get a mastercard by tomorrow Feb 20 19:39:35 apaulsen didnt google said anything? Feb 20 19:39:51 I didn't find anything yet Feb 20 20:08:57 hi all Feb 20 20:14:51 hi pb Feb 20 20:43:31 re thesing Feb 20 20:43:56 hi again Feb 20 20:52:24 is scap.linuxtogo.org down? Feb 20 20:52:34 (or just for me?) Feb 20 20:58:37 everything ltg seems to down Feb 20 21:00:26 mickeyl: you have fixed libsdl :) openmoko should add kobodeluxe now. I spent a weekend getting it working with touchscreen only Feb 20 21:01:28 how can I set a configure switch depending on the endianness of the system? Feb 20 21:01:52 rschuster: inherit siteinfo Feb 20 21:02:33 rschuster: it exports SITEINFO_ENDIANESS and for the values check the bbclass Feb 20 21:02:41 le and be Feb 20 21:03:15 zecke: very nice! Feb 20 21:07:25 hi zecke, mickeyl Feb 20 21:08:06 hey pb_. see you soon in the astrid? Feb 20 21:13:11 mickeyl: right :-) Feb 20 21:13:20 excellent Feb 20 21:13:36 well, maybe not actually in the astrid, I'm in a different hotel this year. But I could join you for breakfast anyway I guess :-) Feb 20 21:13:51 or you could come to my hotel, it's only about 200m away Feb 20 21:13:52 right, if it's not too far away, that'd be pretty cool Feb 20 21:14:14 yah, I'm in the marriott, right opposite the bourse I think Feb 20 21:14:42 *nod* just around the corner. I guess we are quite a lot, so it's better you come ;) Feb 20 21:14:47 will you be in brussels on friday night? Feb 20 21:14:50 cool Feb 20 21:15:00 absolutely. will be there at the new venue of the beer event Feb 20 21:15:08 although i don't know where this is yet Feb 20 21:15:08 good-o Feb 20 21:15:13 heh Feb 20 21:15:16 mickeyl: could you send me your phone number again? this nice windows/umts phone erased by sim :) Feb 20 21:15:19 me neither but I am sure we can figure it out Feb 20 21:15:27 I will be there from about 2100 I think Feb 20 21:15:30 I have to figure out how to meet up with you guys, I'm also staying in a different hotel Feb 20 21:15:51 hm, no, probably more like 2200 Feb 20 21:15:59 my train arrives at bruxelles midi at 2133 Feb 20 21:15:59 mickeyl: http://www.fosdem.org/2008/beerevent Feb 20 21:16:03 sounds good Feb 20 21:16:06 zecke: right, thanks Feb 20 21:16:40 re Feb 20 21:17:08 * zecke wonders if he still has a place to sleep :} Feb 20 21:17:46 zecke: sure you do. will send you my number later tonite Feb 20 21:21:01 ljp: ping :) Feb 20 21:21:52 ljp: can you confirm that the PhoneBrowser(View) is broken in regard to visualizing the navigation when you are mousePreferred? Feb 20 21:23:15 ljp: if you still use the keyboard you get ugly drawing errors (for a couple of seconds) Feb 20 21:31:37 you mean when the virtual keyboard opens? Feb 20 21:36:00 hmm. you mean the grid Feb 20 21:36:06 ljp: no, I have Touchscreen as input device, and then send a cursor left and cursor right and I see a bit of the animation Feb 20 21:36:09 ljp: yes, the grid Feb 20 21:36:19 ljp: SelectedItem::paint I wonder if the ! is wrong in mousePreferred Feb 20 21:37:21 zecke, got a quick question for you. Rewriting the hp6xx apm handling. Isn't apm_get_power_status going to be called everytime apm_bios is catted ? Feb 20 21:38:16 ahh.. yes. I see the painting errors Feb 20 21:38:50 its not drawing the "magnifer" window thingy Feb 20 21:39:04 I will have a chat with the ui guys Feb 20 21:39:08 when they get it Feb 20 21:40:15 kristoffer__: probably Feb 20 21:40:26 ljp: worse, it is drawing something else :) Feb 20 21:40:33 ljp: for a second :) Feb 20 21:40:56 zecke, I just added some printk's in the apm_get_power_status routine and get nothing in output. Also, value seems to be static, so doubt its reading anything. Feb 20 21:41:07 ljp: but the UI guys decided to now have the selected item animation with touchscreen input but people do use the keyboard :) Feb 20 21:41:34 kristoffer__: sorry, no I idea it is virtually years since I have looked at jamey's virtual apm bios implementation Feb 20 21:41:55 zecke, roger. I'll continue looking then. Thanks Feb 20 21:43:46 ljp: the patches on qtopia-interest are trivial, not even copyrightable by TT standards so please apply them Feb 20 21:55:47 ljp: the bug reporting form does not even list Qtopia4.3... Feb 20 22:00:53 *digh* Feb 20 22:01:00 (*sigh* Feb 20 22:02:01 ;) Feb 20 22:02:24 ljp: Is that Brisbane QA's task? Feb 20 22:02:35 ljp: funny to see QtEmbedded in the list of products :) Feb 20 22:04:13 ljp: and HP-UX as default platform for Qtopia :) Feb 20 22:05:05 oslo does all that web stuff, and forgets qtopia. I will ask the release manager to look after getting them to fix the proper qtopiaversion in bug form Feb 20 22:05:14 or maybe support here Feb 20 22:06:19 mithro: the 'mail' is pending due import regulation information :) Feb 20 22:06:40 ljp: qtopia-interest is not getting too much attention :) Feb 20 22:09:16 zecke: okay Feb 20 22:09:58 ljp: I think they got the ! wrong in SelectedItem::paint, you could annotate that line and look for the ChangeLog Feb 20 22:12:05 hi ljp Feb 20 22:12:37 hey pb_ Feb 20 22:12:51 ljp: are you coming to fosdem this year? Feb 20 22:16:06 not this year Feb 20 22:17:11 ah, too bad Feb 20 22:18:17 hi flo_lap Feb 20 22:18:33 hey pb_ Feb 20 22:23:26 pb_: the 30+ hour plane rides get old fast Feb 20 22:26:46 monotone.oe.org not available? is a mirror set up? Feb 20 22:27:24 ljp: heh, yeah, no doubt Feb 20 22:27:58 bbl call Feb 20 22:28:33 rschuster: yeah... the ltg server crashed. in fact the monotone server runs on the ewi machine, but I don't know offhand the full dns name Feb 20 22:31:47 monotone.nslu2-linux.org ? Feb 20 22:32:06 can one trust this server? Feb 20 22:32:34 rschuster: yeah Feb 20 22:34:37 :) Feb 20 22:44:52 rschuster: the server itself is back, as soon someone with the necessary permissions starts the tunnel the mtn link will be back too Feb 20 22:45:26 rschuster: btw. did you see that I checked in a few minor improvements to the maemo4 packages? Feb 20 22:45:28 flo_lap: hm. Feb 20 22:46:05 flo_lap: monotone.nslu2-linux.org doesn't work so nice. can't mtn push Feb 20 22:46:21 flo_lap: no what have you done? where there errors in the recipes? Feb 20 22:47:17 rschuster: some minor issues... actually i do not know why my x11 image build pulled these in :) Feb 20 22:56:45 RP, richard you there? Feb 20 23:37:11 ljp: wb Feb 21 00:14:45 ljp: pure support guys, some of the main developers should read qtopia-interest as well Feb 21 00:15:37 ljp: and for the problem I mentioned earlier: feel free to grab the recent two patches from the git tree Feb 21 00:36:39 good night Feb 21 01:00:17 zecke: those guys are not support Feb 21 01:00:51 ljp: Ah, I thought because Bill is the only one ever responding on Qtopia Interest :) Feb 21 01:06:02 ljp: anyway, I'm still excited how far you guys have gone with Qt/X11 Feb 21 01:20:32 is monotone.openembedded.org down? Feb 21 01:25:18 xjqian: there seems to be a problem with it yes Feb 21 01:26:01 philippe: thanks Feb 21 01:48:51 night guys **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 21 02:59:57 2008