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Mar 24 03:03:21 <XorA> scant: I cant solve this one in reasonable time
Mar 24 03:05:48 <scant> XorA: =(
Mar 24 03:09:40 <scant> can anyone else help?
Mar 24 03:31:53 <XorA> scant: ahah, found the cause of my problems
Mar 24 03:35:25 <scant> XorA: wow, i didn't think you were here
Mar 24 03:35:27 <scant> hehe
Mar 24 03:35:37 <scant> XorA: i have some good news too, i think
Mar 24 03:36:13 <scant> XorA: a developer has a make system, but it's not released yet
Mar 24 03:39:08 <XorA> I am here, but working on work stuff
Mar 24 03:40:46 <scant> XorA: k
Mar 24 05:26:11 <steliosk> good morning all
Mar 24 08:11:46 <methril> morning
Mar 24 08:13:31 <steliosk> methril :hi
Mar 24 08:13:57 <methril> hi steliosk
Mar 24 10:49:23 <Miosc> hi all
Mar 24 10:50:52 <methril> hi
Mar 24 10:51:53 <Miosc> i have a question regarding preferred kernel version, currently it's trying to build 2.6.21 but i have in local.conf:
Mar 24 10:51:56 <Miosc> PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-handhelds-2.6_mioa701       = "2.6.21-hh20+cvs${UTGAVE}"
Mar 24 12:00:36 <CIA-39> 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * rbabd4f89... 10/ (1 conf/machine/nokia800.conf): nokia800.conf: fix typo
Mar 24 12:00:39 <CIA-39> 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r45e77acc... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc.inc): glibc.inc: QA add LEAD_SONAME
Mar 24 12:14:59 <Miosc> now im getting:
Mar 24 12:15:00 <Miosc> NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel
Mar 24 12:15:09 <Miosc> although i have in local.conf:
Mar 24 12:15:20 <Miosc> PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-handhelds-2.6       = "2.6.21-hh20"
Mar 24 12:15:32 <Miosc> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-handhelds-2.6"
Mar 24 12:15:37 <Miosc> anyone can help?
Mar 24 13:31:52 <Miosc> ok, i guess i figured it out but now i'm getting /media/disk/MioA701OE/temp/deploy/uclibc/images/mioa701// does not exist, you may need to bitbake it separately
Mar 24 13:32:14 <Miosc> strange things is, only ../temp/deploy/glibc exists
Mar 24 13:34:31 <Miosc> i have glibc/pstage instead of uclibc/pstage
Mar 24 13:35:01 <Miosc> i have TARGET_OS = "linux-gnueabi"
Mar 24 13:38:00 <Miosc> anyone can help?
Mar 24 13:38:39 <XorA> Miosc: not using Angstrom?
Mar 24 13:38:50 <Miosc> XorA: yeah i'm using it
Mar 24 13:38:53 <Miosc> 2008.1
Mar 24 13:38:53 <XorA> "linux-gnueabi" would be not uclibc
Mar 24 13:39:13 <XorA> ANGSTROM_MODE = "uclibc" if I remeber right
Mar 24 13:39:21 <XorA> dont set TARGET_OS
Mar 24 13:39:44 <Miosc> XorA: ah ok, do i set angstrom mode in local.conf?
Mar 24 13:39:58 <XorA> Miosc: yes
Mar 24 13:40:57 <Miosc> XorA: ok thanks :D
Mar 24 13:43:50 <Miosc> also, i noticed som weirdness in conf/machine/.conf file, it sets up PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-handhelds-2.6" but it would go unnoticed by bitbake
Mar 24 13:44:10 <Miosc> putting PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.21" in local.conf would solve it
Mar 24 13:44:38 <Miosc> but plain "linux-handhelds-2.6" in local conf wouldnt work either
Mar 24 13:51:59 <Miosc> seems like eabi is disabled for uclibc
Mar 24 13:52:52 <XorA> never done uclibc
Mar 24 13:53:10 <Miosc> is there any difference between glibc and uclibc?
Mar 24 13:53:26 <Miosc> like significant speedup?
Mar 24 13:54:38 <NAbyss> Miosc: http://www.uclibc.org/FAQ.html#doesnt_suck
Mar 24 13:56:38 <Miosc> NAbyss: thanks, sounds like i want uclibc
Mar 24 13:56:53 <Miosc> NAbyss: any idea whether i can enable eabi for uclibc?
Mar 24 13:57:01 <XorA> uclibc is bigger than glibc as soon as you need localisation
Mar 24 13:57:54 <Miosc> XorA: the faq claims that with 170 locales uclibc has 500k and glibc is 30Mb... 
Mar 24 13:57:57 * Miosc confused
Mar 24 13:57:59 <Miosc> :D
Mar 24 13:58:44 <XorA> libiconv + uclibc comes out bigger than glibc in our experiements
Mar 24 14:11:19 <Miosc> XorA: strange...
Mar 24 14:21:03 <CIA-39> 03rodrigo.vivi 07org.oe.dev * r18a835c4... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
Mar 24 14:21:03 <CIA-39> Bug fix on dpkg package: #2574
Mar 24 14:21:03 <CIA-39> It makes final dpkg scripts point to
Mar 24 14:21:03 <CIA-39> #!/usr/bin/perl
Mar 24 14:21:03 <CIA-39> instead of unexistent (at running time)
Mar 24 14:21:04 <CIA-39> #!.../tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/perl
Mar 24 14:39:05 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 2574 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by rodrigo.vivi(AT)gmail.com
Mar 24 14:39:07 <cdbot2> * * all dpkg scripts are poiting erroneously to perl native in workdir
Mar 24 14:39:09 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2574
Mar 24 15:03:04 <Miosc> i'm gettinng a note that multiple providers are available for virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-uclibcgnueabi-libc-for-gcc (uclibc, external-toolchain);
Mar 24 15:03:44 <Miosc> and i should define PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-uclibcgnueabi-libc-for-gcc but that is already defined in conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf
Mar 24 15:03:52 <Miosc> anyone knows what to do?
Mar 24 15:04:01 <Miosc> or is it safe to ignore?
Mar 24 15:12:24 <CIA-39> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r7102b213... 10/ (1 packages/images/slugos-image.bb): slugos-image: Enable for ixp4xx machines other than nslu2
Mar 24 15:12:28 <CIA-39> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r224361c9... 10/ (9 files in 6 dirs): linux-ixp4xx: Update to 2.6.24.3 and make it the default for ixp4xx machines. Tested on Freecom FSG-3.
Mar 24 15:20:41 <Miosc> not even putting it in local.conf helps
Mar 24 16:01:35 <CIA-39> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r52701c76... 10/ (1 classes/e.bbclass): e.bbclass merge with Mamona
Mar 24 16:01:40 <CIA-39> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r67d0de9c... 10/ (1 packages/e17/e-wm_cvs.bb): e-wm cvs ship preload .la files in -dev package
Mar 24 16:01:45 <CIA-39> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rfc79b692... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko-projects/diversity-daemon_svn.bb): diversity-daemon svn fix name and section
Mar 24 17:15:33 <hvontres|work> helgeD: Morning :)
Mar 24 17:16:21 <hvontres|work> helgeD: Thanks for taking a look at the r12 builds. It seems my weekends are getting busier now that it is spring...the curse of being a landowner
Mar 24 17:23:14 <mrdata> woglinde: hi
Mar 24 17:24:46 <woglinde> hi
Mar 24 17:24:51 <woglinde> holidays are over
Mar 24 17:25:24 <mrdata> yes :(
Mar 24 17:26:32 <mr_nice> woglinde: hi, can you put some stuff in .dev for us?
Mar 24 17:27:19 <mr_nice> woglinde: it is kind of complicated to ask on angstrom ml for get it into .dev first before being able to request for backport
Mar 24 17:29:23 <woglinde> mr_nice email it or write a bugreport
Mar 24 17:32:54 <mr_nice> woglinde: ok, I will create a bug report and let you know about it. I need to check out recent .dev first.
Mar 24 17:34:17 <woglinde> :)
Mar 24 17:39:04 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4117 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
Mar 24 17:39:06 <cdbot2> * * gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6-autobuild
Mar 24 17:39:08 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4117
Mar 24 17:44:32 <Miosc> is open embedded also available on win32?
Mar 24 17:45:39 <woglinde> miosc hm dont kniw if someone tested it under cygwin
Mar 24 17:46:17 <Miosc> woglinde: mingw would be better :D
Mar 24 17:47:02 <woglinde> try it
Mar 24 17:47:08 <woglinde> and report if it works
Mar 24 17:49:04 <Miosc> woglinde: ok, if find some time to test it
Mar 24 17:52:41 <mr_nice> woglinde: oe bug no 4084
Mar 24 17:52:59 <mr_nice> woglinde: :)
Mar 24 17:58:59 <CIA-39> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4f38c623... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
Mar 24 17:58:59 <CIA-39> busybox 1.9.1: add files needed for openwrt-style 'telnet failsafe login'
Mar 24 17:58:59 <CIA-39> * the files aren't used in the recipe yet, just there for reference
Mar 24 18:11:05 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 3990 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by <mr_nice>
Mar 24 18:11:07 <cdbot2> * * SanDisk ConnectPlus not working correctly
Mar 24 18:11:09 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3990
Mar 24 18:15:04 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4096 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <mr_nice>
Mar 24 18:15:06 <cdbot2> * * autobuilder image contains 2.6.21 and 2.6.24 kernel images
Mar 24 18:15:08 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4096
Mar 24 18:15:17 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 3680 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <mr_nice>
Mar 24 18:15:19 <cdbot2> * * kernel modules missing (pcmcia wlan cards, and mmc mod) in defconfig
Mar 24 18:15:21 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3680
Mar 24 18:19:42 <helgeD> hvontres|work: n.p.
Mar 24 18:26:05 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 2102 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by rodrigo.vivi(AT)gmail.com
Mar 24 18:26:07 <cdbot2> * * update-alternatives-dpkg paths are wrong
Mar 24 18:26:09 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2102
Mar 24 18:27:13 <CIA-39> 03rodrigo.vivi 07org.oe.dev * rf7f15489... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
Mar 24 18:27:13 <CIA-39> update-alternatives-dpkg: Adding support to relative paths.
Mar 24 18:27:13 <CIA-39> update-alternatives-cworth accept both: full and relative paths, but update-alternatives-dpkg accept only full paths.
Mar 24 18:27:13 <CIA-39> The best solution for that would be using only full paths but it would require change lots of bb files.
Mar 24 18:27:13 <CIA-39> By now consider to use only full paths on your bb files.
Mar 24 18:29:59 <ynezz> http://pastebin.com/m2c3f953d - how is it possible, that ep93xx-gpio-interrupt-debounce.diff is applied twice?
Mar 24 18:35:20 <hvontres|work> helgeD: BTW, it looks like the only change in the r13 images is a fix for tzdata, at least for the x11 image.
Mar 24 18:37:31 <Hrw|tablet> Hi
Mar 24 18:38:05 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 3046 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by rodrigo.vivi(AT)gmail.com
Mar 24 18:38:06 <cdbot2> * * nokia800/pointercal isn't calibrated
Mar 24 18:38:08 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3046
Mar 24 18:38:30 <CIA-39> 03rodrigo.vivi 07org.oe.dev * r0e9ccd98... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
Mar 24 18:38:30 <CIA-39> Adding pointercal configuration file for Nokia 770
Mar 24 18:38:30 <CIA-39> This file was generated using ts_calibrate and tested in different devices.
Mar 24 18:38:34 <CIA-39> 03rodrigo.vivi 07org.oe.dev * rcb11d308... 10/ (1 packages/pointercal/files/nokia800/pointercal): 
Mar 24 18:38:34 <CIA-39> Adding functional pointercal file configuration for N800
Mar 24 18:38:34 <CIA-39> This pointercal configuration has been hardly tested.
Mar 24 18:39:39 <helgeD> hvontres|work: maybe you can help me with a (probably) stupid problem ?
Mar 24 18:39:52 <Hrw|tablet> Does someone adds n810 pointercal too?
Mar 24 18:40:15 <helgeD> I'm doing a mtn pull in my "stable" source tree. It gets quite some stuff from monotone.openembedded.org
Mar 24 18:40:38 <helgeD> Then, a "mtn update" does not show me the latest changes (e.g. the "-r13" change). Why ?
Mar 24 18:40:44 <Hrw|tablet> ViVIJIM:?
Mar 24 18:40:48 <helgeD> Do I need another server ?
Mar 24 18:41:19 <vivijim> Hrw|tablet: hi
Mar 24 18:42:12 <Hrw|tablet> Vivijim: n810 has other ts controller then n800 - maemo provides other pointercals
Mar 24 18:43:42 <vivijim> Hrw|tablet: it is strange... because we have tested the same pointercall and it is working on both: n800 and n810
Mar 24 18:44:06 <Hrw|tablet> Cool then
Mar 24 19:06:42 <mr_nice> woglinde: did you have some time to look at the patch?
Mar 24 19:07:25 <woglinde> yes I will check it in
Mar 24 19:07:36 <mr_nice> woglinde: thanks :)
Mar 24 19:08:30 <hvontres|work> helgeD: when your do your mtn pull, did you tell it to pull from the angstrom branch? I use mtn pull --db=OE.mtn monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.{dev,angstrom*} to pull
Mar 24 19:08:48 <woglinde> hms
Mar 24 19:08:51 <woglinde> pull hangs
Mar 24 19:15:51 <mr_nice> woglinde: hm, same here
Mar 24 20:43:10 <law|ibook> hi
Mar 24 20:44:16 <law|ibook> if i have a second bitbake dir (incl. own machine confs) do i also need to add them do the BBPATH env?
Mar 24 20:45:03 <law|ibook> only BBFILE_PATTERN_foobar in local.conf doesnt help or?
Mar 24 20:50:53 <flo_lap> law|ibook: I think so... The pattern are for bb files only iirc.
Mar 24 21:01:01 <Crofton> what I did for fun on Saturday http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/sets/72157604221601303/
Mar 24 21:04:46 <keesj> Crofton: industrial speleo?
Mar 24 21:05:34 <cbrake> Crofton: what is all the digging about?
Mar 24 21:05:56 <cbrake> ahh, caving :-)
Mar 24 21:05:58 <steliosk> Crofton : Preparing for the on-coming OE friendly fire exchanges ? :)
Mar 24 21:06:00 <Crofton> we are looking for a cave :)
Mar 24 21:06:22 <Crofton> Preparing for Iranian missles :)
Mar 24 21:06:29 <Crofton> wait, that guy is nuts
Mar 24 21:06:34 <keesj> very cool
Mar 24 21:06:51 <Crofton> We need to dig at the bottom of the pipe now :(
Mar 24 21:07:01 <keesj> What country is this?
Mar 24 21:07:15 <Crofton> USA
Mar 24 21:07:25 <Crofton> SW Virginia
Mar 24 21:07:40 * keesj did a little speleo (caving) in france. 
Mar 24 21:08:40 <Crofton> cool
Mar 24 21:09:20 <keesj> I just did not expect this on this channel :p
Mar 24 21:10:02 <Crofton> It is could to know a little about the people behind the nicks
Mar 24 21:11:30 <woglinde> crofton :)
Mar 24 21:23:46 <mwester> You're not allowed to dig them yourself, though -- it's not real spelunking then! :P :D
Mar 24 21:28:32 <Crofton> well, you dig into them :) there is a very large system underneath this dig
Mar 24 21:30:09 <hvontres|work> Crofton: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/2355368301/in/set-72157604221601303/ -> nice to see the heavy equipment operator is well lubed :)
Mar 24 21:31:29 <mwester> Oh, so that tube actually goes into something else,then?
Mar 24 21:31:37 <Crofton> not yet :(
Mar 24 21:31:59 <mwester> hvontres|work:  I noticed that too...
Mar 24 21:32:01 <Crofton> hvontres|work, he was telling the operator where to dig
Mar 24 21:32:31 <Crofton> the operator was not, the rest of us, well :)
Mar 24 21:32:42 <hvontres|work> Crofton: ohh, so the PBR can is just a surveying instrument :)
Mar 24 21:32:51 <Crofton> yes
Mar 24 21:32:52 <Crofton> http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/2356203682/in/set-72157604221601303/
Mar 24 21:33:04 <Crofton> here we are reviewing the geo-technical data :)
Mar 24 21:33:38 <mwester> And what was that huge block of concrete and metal that was extracted?
Mar 24 21:37:00 <keesj> nice plave to put a geocache :p
Mar 24 21:39:59 <Crofton> mwester, that was natural rock, I think
Mar 24 22:17:50 <CIA-39> 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r848c6e3f... 10/ (8 files in 2 dirs): db: fix upstream SRC_URI, unify db4.
Mar 24 23:40:26 <Fique> just a general question, should I move my embedded device to kernel 2.6.24 or wait till its been fleshed out more?
Mar 24 23:40:34 <Fique> using 2.6.23 now
Mar 24 23:44:04 <flo_lap> Fique: staying up to date is always a good idea... so if you have enough time to follow the latest linux releases you should do.
Mar 24 23:51:36 <Fique> alright thank you
Mar 24 23:52:56 <flo_lap> good night
Mar 25 00:17:58 <darmou> does anyone know where I can download the angstrom toolchain for spitz? 'The external toolchain could not be found in /usr/local/angstrom-2007.1/arm"
Mar 25 00:19:32 <darmou> I see "http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/toolchain/"
Mar 25 00:20:01 <darmou> however if it is one of these which is it? 
Mar 25 00:58:20 <hvontres|work> darmou: That sounds like something is not configured correctly. Are you using the stable or the dev branch?
Mar 25 01:01:16 <darmou> I'm not sure I just followed the instructions in openembedded getting started document
Mar 25 01:01:46 <darmou> http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted
Mar 25 01:06:38 <rwhitby> RP: I've pushed a fix for the ipkg->opkg breakage.
Mar 25 01:07:14 <XorA> morning
Mar 25 01:07:48 <summatusmentis> hi XorA 
Mar 25 01:08:09 <XorA> it wasnt me
Mar 25 01:08:20 <summatusmentis> what wasn't you?
Mar 25 01:08:42 <summatusmentis> the dead cop down the street? I wasn't suspecting you at all
Mar 25 01:09:11 <summatusmentis> god I'm such a bad person
Mar 25 01:11:20 <CIA-39> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * raff156eb... 10/ (1 classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass): rootfs_ipk.bbclass: Emergency addition to fix image generation where ipkg is still the package manager included in the image.
Mar 25 01:14:42 * XorA hangs his head
Mar 25 01:16:13 <rwhitby> XorA: ?
Mar 25 01:19:38 <lisppaste7> zecke pasted "autotools fixlet" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/57961
Mar 25 01:22:00 <darmou____> I'm having trouble building using bitbake, making nano to test and getting an error about a missing external toolchain
Mar 25 01:22:06 <darmou____> can anyone help?
Mar 25 01:23:29 * darmou test
Mar 25 01:23:42 <darmou> must have had a stale connection before
Mar 25 02:00:18 <darmou> woot think I solved it, needed to update a few things like bitbake and update build config.
Mar 25 02:03:26 <scant> XorA: hi, you here?
Mar 25 02:03:46 <XorA> scant: you
Mar 25 02:03:48 <XorA> -u
Mar 25 02:05:00 <scant> XorA: were you able to figure anything out?
Mar 25 02:06:16 <XorA> scant: sorry I just didnt have time outside OM work yesterday
Mar 25 02:07:01 <scant> XorA: can you look at it some more now?
Mar 25 02:07:44 <XorA> scant: I wont have time for about 2 weeks
Mar 25 02:08:00 <scant> XorA: =(
Mar 25 02:08:21 <scant> XorA: know of anyone else who can help me?
Mar 25 02:08:51 <XorA> scant: quite a few of the guys here probably can, its just finding someone who isnt busy at work
Mar 25 02:09:08 <scant> oh
Mar 25 02:09:40 <scant> anyone here who can help?
Mar 25 02:12:06 <XorA> scant: otherwise post you .bb plus errors on bugtracker, maybe you attract someone outside of your timezone
Mar 25 02:19:17 <microlith> hmm
Mar 25 02:28:19 <microlith> aha!
Mar 25 02:28:47 <microlith> bitbake does not report when a required program is not found
Mar 25 02:39:38 <microlith> cd ..
Mar 25 02:39:40 <microlith> doh
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