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Apr 02 07:54:48 <Genesis> bonjour
Apr 02 07:56:19 <CIA-38> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rc77bda4b... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): slugos-packages: Added squid
Apr 02 08:02:12 <florian> good morning
Apr 02 08:37:19 <bambam> i am having problems building openmoko-image or similiar, because of a lack of the package librsvg-native
Apr 02 08:37:29 <bambam> any solutions to this problem?
Apr 02 08:50:14 <hrw> morning
Apr 02 08:50:20 <hrw> http://blog.haerwu.biz/2008/04/02/no-i-am-not-moving-to-london/
Apr 02 08:50:25 <florian> hi hrw
Apr 02 08:50:28 <hrw> ~pastebin
Apr 02 08:50:29 <ibot> [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste
Apr 02 08:50:35 <hrw> bambam: pastebin exact error log
Apr 02 08:52:45 <bambam> hrw: http://pastebin.com/d1d8892f0
Apr 02 08:53:35 <hrw> I see
Apr 02 08:54:26 <hrw> bambam: hunt for openmoko guys
Apr 02 08:55:37 <bambam> hrw: will do
Apr 02 09:25:43 <pb_> florian: good morning
Apr 02 09:26:41 <florian> hey pb_ 
Apr 02 09:36:34 <CIA-38> 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r6fe43ab7... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/tune-x86.inc conf/machine/x86.conf): 
Apr 02 09:36:34 <CIA-38> conf/machine/x86.conf : Due to changes in recent gcc/glibc make sure that x86 image -march
Apr 02 09:36:34 <CIA-38> is set to i486 for x86. Closes #3834 and #3861
Apr 02 09:37:04 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 3861 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 3834 by skoroneos(AT)digital-opsis.com
Apr 02 09:37:06 <cdbot2> * * Error compiling glibc-intermediate Please, help!
Apr 02 09:37:08 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3861
Apr 02 09:38:04 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 3834 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by skoroneos(AT)digital-opsis.com
Apr 02 09:38:06 <cdbot2> * * glibc-intermediate build failed
Apr 02 09:38:08 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3834
Apr 02 11:23:43 <ant|work> hi all
Apr 02 11:38:28 <Jin^eLD> hey likewise 
Apr 02 11:38:48 <Jin^eLD> will you be at the CELF conference in .nl, afaik it will probably be held there
Apr 02 11:38:52 <Jin^eLD> november
Apr 02 11:40:13 <likewise> cool, yeah sure
Apr 02 11:40:16 <likewise>  and hi
Apr 02 11:40:41 <likewise> need to prep for some OE talk then :-)
Apr 02 11:40:45 <Jin^eLD> :)
Apr 02 12:11:13 <Crofton> hrw, ROFLMAO
Apr 02 12:12:25 * Crofton is concerned by koen's private army ....
Apr 02 12:12:35 <hrw> Crofton: ?
Apr 02 12:12:50 <Crofton> hrw, your blog post :)
Apr 02 12:13:06 <hrw> ah
Apr 02 12:13:18 <Crofton> and koen's
Apr 02 12:13:22 <hrw> what does koen's private army has?
Apr 02 12:13:29 <hrw> ah.. did not read koen yet
Apr 02 12:13:47 <Laibsch> has the libgcc problem for oabi been fixed yet?
Apr 02 12:13:51 <Laibsch> Who is working on it?
Apr 02 12:14:36 <hrw> Koen needs to work on SEO a bit more
Apr 02 12:14:42 <hrw> his blog is not googleable
Apr 02 12:21:53 <ScaredyCat> http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/cms/
Apr 02 12:22:01 * ScaredyCat prods hrw
Apr 02 12:23:03 <hrw> ScaredyCat: ?
Apr 02 12:23:40 * ScaredyCat points at url
Apr 02 12:24:13 <hrw> and?
Apr 02 12:24:25 <hrw> ah  - found it before
Apr 02 12:24:30 <hrw> afk
Apr 02 12:54:31 <strikov> Good day! Can you surmise is my system (at91sam) boot problem connected with invalid kernel config or incorrect init script? http://rafb.net/p/Rm06Qy60.html
Apr 02 13:01:20 <Jin^eLD> strikov: a kernel oops is probably not a reason of a bad init script, I'd suspect some bug in the kernel/drivers or something
Apr 02 13:03:15 <cbrake> strikov: looks like NAND driver or formatting issues.  Its somewhat important that the JFFS2_SUMMARY options match the way you are formatting the flash, and generating the rootfs image (sumtool)
Apr 02 13:03:38 <cbrake> strikov: but, I've never seen this generate kernel faults
Apr 02 13:04:14 <cbrake> strikov: you may want to turn off JFFS2_SUMMARY in the kernel if it is currently enabled and get that working first
Apr 02 13:06:00 <strikov> cbrake: thanks, ill try to build system without SUMMARY support
Apr 02 13:17:07 <strikov> cbrake: :( I get the same errors
Apr 02 14:12:57 <Khem> Laibsch: I was looking at it have you reproduced it 
Apr 02 14:13:20 <Laibsch> yes
Apr 02 14:13:39 <Laibsch> The latest image did not boot because libgcc was missing
Apr 02 14:13:39 <Khem> Laibsch: ok
Apr 02 14:14:05 <Laibsch> I have tipped off another run with the fix that thesing proposed in oe-devel
Apr 02 14:14:05 <Khem> Laibsch: so no binary or so has libgcc in NEEDED
Apr 02 14:14:14 <Laibsch> ?
Apr 02 14:14:43 <Khem> Laibsch: what does objdump -p shown on usr/bin and usr/lib
Apr 02 14:14:51 <Khem> all binaries
Apr 02 14:15:19 <Khem> Laibsch: i think libstdc++ should have DT_NEEDED tad set for libgcc
Apr 02 14:17:08 <Laibsch> I'll check
Apr 02 14:17:15 <Laibsch> Give me a minute for the run to complete
Apr 02 14:17:38 <Laibsch> Is it to be expected that I have a directory tmp/angstrom/usr/lib/opkg/ ?
Apr 02 14:18:07 <Laibsch> I only knew about tmp/angstrom/{deploy,stamps,staging,cross} etc
Apr 02 14:18:52 <Khem> hmmm it should be tmp/angstrom/rootfs/usr/lib/opkg may be
Apr 02 14:19:09 <Laibsch> yes, something like that is what I would expect, too
Apr 02 14:21:31 <Khem> may be some native package
Apr 02 14:22:12 <Khem> is causing it too
Apr 02 14:29:34 <strikov> Small question: if i make some jffs2 image, burn it into NAND and make root...if i make my mtd partition larger, will my rootfs dispose some additional space
Apr 02 14:30:34 <cbrake> strikov: depending how you burn the image, you often need to erase the entire partition first
Apr 02 14:31:53 <strikov> cbrake:so if i have some erased blocks a can append FS with date?
Apr 02 14:54:11 <CIA-38> 03koen 07org.oe.stable * rf546a1e7... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp.inc): 
Apr 02 14:54:11 <CIA-38> linux-rp.inc: * turn off OABI compat to save space (Koen, Dmitry)
Apr 02 14:54:11 <CIA-38>  * turn on FUSE (Koen, Xjqian)
Apr 02 14:55:29 <hrw> strikov: it is safer to erase flash before writing jffs2 into it
Apr 02 14:56:02 <hrw> jffs2 do scan of whole flash partition to know what data is stored. if flash was not erased then it can get garbage
Apr 02 15:05:46 <Khem> I always clean up the NAND partition. If it is not empty then I get garbage flashed into it
Apr 02 15:11:29 <strikov> hrw: thanks ill do it this way
Apr 02 15:32:52 <mrdata> hi all
Apr 02 15:34:43 <strikov> hi
Apr 02 15:43:47 <woglinde> hi mrdata
Apr 02 15:43:56 <mrdata> hi woglinde 
Apr 02 15:44:07 <mrdata> i have a new toy since today
Apr 02 15:44:23 <mrdata> freedom universal keyboard
Apr 02 15:44:58 <mrdata> =bluetooth, hopefully works with my bluetooth mod
Apr 02 15:47:03 <Laibsch> Khem: Does http://rafb.net/p/SxsP7E52.html tell you anything?
Apr 02 15:47:24 <Laibsch> It is the output of "objdump -p ~/work/tmp/angstrom/rootfs/usr/bin/*"
Apr 02 15:48:17 <Laibsch> nothing about libgcc as far as I can see
Apr 02 15:48:26 <woglinde> mrdata yes it will work
Apr 02 15:48:48 <Laibsch> But it looks like some symlinks pointed to non-existing files and thus were not inspected by objdump
Apr 02 15:49:36 <mrdata> woglinde you are a prophet?
Apr 02 15:49:46 <mrdata> *g
Apr 02 15:50:35 <mrdata> the only thing i know is, that it works with my n800
Apr 02 15:53:56 <woglinde> mrdata bt isnt so problematic like seriell or ir keyboard
Apr 02 16:31:09 <kolla> gumsticks anyone? I'm about to order a package with verdex XL6P and netmicroSD - is there a limitation on the size of microSD I can use with it?
Apr 02 16:31:35 <kolla> I have found cheap 8GB microSD, but I'm not sure if that will work
Apr 02 16:32:19 <kolla> I also have also not found any info about the USB host adapter to decide if it's just ohci, or ehci as well
Apr 02 16:35:28 <hrw> kolla: no limit and ohci
Apr 02 16:35:53 <kolla> ah, ok. thanks :)
Apr 02 16:35:54 <hrw> its pxa27x
Apr 02 16:36:01 <woglinde> hrw good 1st april joke
Apr 02 16:36:19 <hrw> woglinde: thx ;)
Apr 02 16:36:55 <hrw> kolla: how cheap 8gb?
Apr 02 16:36:56 <woglinde> I took it serious too
Apr 02 16:39:34 <kolla> hrw: NOK 450, or .. 56 euro, no idea if it's really cheap, but it _feels_ very cheap.. been a while since I last bought memory card :)
Apr 02 16:39:57 <hrw> quite cheap 
Apr 02 16:40:04 <kolla> hrw: I'm getting the LCD pack with wifi module for the netmicroSD module - building my own micro laptop :P
Apr 02 16:40:08 <hrw> sandisk?
Apr 02 16:40:47 <kolla> sandisk yes
Apr 02 16:40:53 <kolla> even comes with usb adapter
Apr 02 16:40:59 <Khem> Laibsch: hmmm
Apr 02 16:41:17 <Khem> Laibsch: what does libstdc++.so says
Apr 02 16:41:49 <Khem> Laibsch: do you see it mentioning libgcc_s.so in NEEDED fiedl
Apr 02 16:41:58 <kolla> hrw: got this crazy idea that it should all fit into a "fat" DVD case, or maybe old VHS cassette case :)
Apr 02 16:42:58 <kolla> or something
Apr 02 16:44:46 <mrdata> woglinde: need i hidd from bluz-utils for my keyboard tests?
Apr 02 16:55:46 <hrw> kolla: read planet.linuxtogo.org
Apr 02 16:56:03 <hrw> kolla: Crofton posted about case for gumstix
Apr 02 16:56:15 <hrw> kolla: and it will be rather something like VHS case then DVD
Apr 02 16:56:53 <kolla> mm :)
Apr 02 16:58:05 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4020 has been REOPENED by mdarland(AT)pager.net
Apr 02 16:58:06 <cdbot2> * * rsync tarball URL changed.
Apr 02 16:58:08 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4020
Apr 02 17:01:59 <Crofton> hrw, that is a "handheld radio"
Apr 02 17:02:18 <Crofton> when it works, I'll have Hasan take a picture of someone suing it :)
Apr 02 17:04:02 <pb_> tch, you guys are so litigious.
Apr 02 17:04:22 <CosmicPenguin> thats why our economy is so great and our currency is worth so much
Apr 02 17:16:59 <hrw> bye guys
Apr 02 17:25:04 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4146 has been created by nahor.j+openembedded(AT)gmail.com
Apr 02 17:25:06 <cdbot2> * * Distro generic-uclibc references a non-existant package libintl for
Apr 02 17:25:08 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4146
Apr 02 18:58:23 <Laibsch> Khem: I guess http://rafb.net/p/8fX5Ey42.html is what you are talking about?
Apr 02 19:14:20 <flo_lap> re
Apr 02 19:20:52 <woglinde> hi flo
Apr 02 19:38:45 <mrdata> what tell my hidd with Can't create HID control channel: Connection reset by peer
Apr 02 19:39:20 <mrdata> if i try  hidd --scan , any hints for that?
Apr 02 21:01:06 <mrdata> bye all
Apr 02 21:01:14 <mrdata> night woglinde 
Apr 02 21:47:55 <Crofton> ~lart berlios
Apr 02 21:47:55 * ibot strangles berlios with a 9-pole serial cable
Apr 02 21:53:29 <Khem> Laibsch: you can objdump -p libstdc++.so 
Apr 02 21:53:56 <Khem> and see if libgcc_s.so is listed as NEEDED or not actually it should. If not then its a problem
Apr 02 22:15:27 <Laibsch> Khem: Let's get back to this tomorrow
Apr 02 22:16:01 <Laibsch> But the pastebin above is objdump -p libstdc++.so
Apr 02 22:16:16 <Laibsch> Might not be the right libstdc++.so
Apr 02 22:16:24 <Laibsch> Good night
Apr 02 22:16:33 <Crofton> gn
Apr 02 23:01:20 <CIA-38> 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r34a47e3b... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
Apr 02 23:01:20 <CIA-38> openttd: New package version
Apr 02 23:01:20 <CIA-38>  - added 0.6.0
Apr 02 23:01:20 <CIA-38>  - removed 0.6.0-beta4
Apr 02 23:09:07 <CIA-38> 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r66d9cc11... 10/ (1 classes/autotools.bbclass): autotools.bbclass: Replace cp with autotools_stage_dir.
Apr 03 02:38:40 <zecke> ljp: hey, yeah the amp usage in Qtopia is giving me a massive headache :)
Apr 03 02:39:07 <zecke> ljp: also the headset detection is wrong, you should take a look at the initial state, when qpe laucnhes
Apr 03 02:39:33 <zecke> ljp: regarding amp: it seems to be turned off, or other things are done in the alsa code :)
Apr 03 02:39:49 <zecke> ljp: once I start to work on the ALSA scenario API I will fix that...
Apr 03 02:53:41 <zecke> n8
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