**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 06 02:59:56 2008 Apr 06 06:00:02 anyone here? Apr 06 06:00:50 Sure, but I don't know if anyone is awake Apr 06 06:02:32 * wick728 is away: afk Apr 06 06:13:18 hi i am trying to setup my tree using OE-this-is-for-mtn-0.37.mtn database Apr 06 06:13:28 and it gets stuck on mtn pull Apr 06 06:14:09 I am on ubuntu 8.04 beta anyone seeing this issue too Apr 06 06:14:46 mtn pull is ok on the tree I setup a year ago Apr 06 06:16:29 its sitting here http://rafb.net/p/2f76sR49.html Apr 06 06:59:59 my mtn problem was due to my weird firewall now its working Apr 06 09:36:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4d43ab58... 10/ (1 classes/testlab.bbclass): testlab.bbclass: opkg is using a different output format, account for that, Apr 06 10:41:25 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rbcc47d35... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): linux-ixp4xx: Disable the dmabounce debugging - it just happens too often to be enabled for production kernels Apr 06 11:29:24 hi Apr 06 11:54:44 how can I use a locale version on image built ? Apr 06 13:28:39 tr Apr 06 13:28:42 re Apr 06 16:22:52 anyone here? my bitbake file is looking for libtool.m4, but can't find it Apr 06 16:23:09 what're you building? Apr 06 16:24:16 mimeca1: sane-backends-1.0.19 Apr 06 16:24:24 device? Apr 06 16:24:27 mimeca1: slugos Apr 06 16:24:46 i don't know that device, sorry Apr 06 16:25:00 mimeca1: i think my issue might be device independent though Apr 06 16:25:32 ok Apr 06 16:25:41 mimeca1: acinlcude.m4 includes these lines: m4_include([m4/libtool.m4]) Apr 06 16:25:41 m4_include([m4/byteorder.m4]) Apr 06 16:25:41 m4_include([m4/stdint.m4]) Apr 06 16:26:09 some times, i saw libtools on compilations Apr 06 16:27:08 mimeca1: my configure log says this: http://pastebin.ca/974148 Apr 06 16:27:26 let's see it Apr 06 16:28:35 can you write "bitbake libtool" manually ? Apr 06 16:28:58 mimeca1: do you mean, can i perform 'bitbake libtool' sucessfully? Apr 06 16:29:08 yes Apr 06 16:29:12 trying... Apr 06 16:30:19 mimeca1: yes, i can write 'bitbake libtool' manually Apr 06 16:30:44 mimeca1: i still think my issue is device independent and any help you can provide is greatly appreciated Apr 06 16:31:34 i don't know how can you fix that problem Apr 06 16:31:52 but you can build libtool , then that program is on the oe database Apr 06 16:34:24 i think my configure or acinclude.m4 needs to be patched, but i don't know how Apr 06 16:34:43 bitbake patchs all the files teorically Apr 06 16:35:04 fill a bug report Apr 06 16:35:14 mimeca1: i was reading, that I may have to export ACLOCAL_FLAGS Apr 06 16:35:27 in my sane-backends_1.0.19.bb file Apr 06 17:15:28 steliosk: ping Apr 06 17:19:21 hi likewise Apr 06 17:19:31 hi scant, zecke Apr 06 17:19:59 likewise: are you an oe developer, I'm looking for some help Apr 06 17:23:14 just ask, don't ask anyone specific Apr 06 17:23:33 you may be lucky or not depending on who's online and has time, etc etc Apr 06 17:23:51 yes, I do some OE development Apr 06 17:24:46 * Crofton grumbles about git being obscure Apr 06 17:25:26 every time I ask someone who contributes patches to the davinci kernel how they use git to d o this, the reply is "I use quilt for that" Apr 06 17:26:34 hi Crofton Apr 06 17:26:42 scant, just ask Apr 06 17:26:52 if we have an idea, we'll answer Apr 06 17:26:57 this is my sane-backends_1.0.19.bb: http://pastebin.ca/974157 Apr 06 17:27:04 if not, we'll likely not say anuything Apr 06 17:27:07 this is my configure log: http://pastebin.ca/974159 Apr 06 17:27:20 there is an issue with m4, libtool, configure, and aclocal.m4 Apr 06 17:27:27 ug Apr 06 17:27:49 you are creating this bb file? Apr 06 17:28:57 Crofton: yes i created it Apr 06 17:29:21 acinclude.m4:606: file `m4/libtool.m4' does not exist Apr 06 17:29:27 this would be the problem ? Apr 06 17:29:29 yes Apr 06 17:30:00 I don't have any good advice, hopefully someone will recognixe the problem though Apr 06 17:30:03 am i supposed to copy libtool.m4 to that location from: slug/dev/slugos/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/usr/share/aclocal Apr 06 17:30:35 I'm not sure Apr 06 17:30:53 Crofton: what about this message: autoreconf: configure.in: not using Gettext Apr 06 17:31:01 not sure Apr 06 17:31:06 try googling for that messgae Apr 06 17:31:28 also google the other, just in case Apr 06 17:32:26 Crofton: i did, i found a post that said i should export ACLOCAL_FLAGS Apr 06 17:33:00 * Crofton is hoping someone that understands this conversatoin chimes in :) Apr 06 17:33:20 i dunno Apr 06 17:33:29 sorry scant, I'm not sure and I need to take some stuff to the thrift store Apr 06 17:33:34 ok Apr 06 17:33:52 I'm procrastinating trying to figure out git ..... Apr 06 17:34:16 I'm not an autotools/libtool guy myself. dumb suggestion: inherit libtool? Apr 06 17:34:30 I don't think Apr 06 17:34:45 I suspect something is not staged quite right Apr 06 17:34:55 but, I need to clean up some stuff and learn git :) Apr 06 17:35:02 it says m4/libtool.m4 does not exist, who should provide that then? Apr 06 17:35:11 good luck (both of you) Apr 06 17:35:29 maybe DEPEND libtool? Apr 06 17:35:46 Crofton: so in sane-backends_1.0.18 not sane-backends_1.0.19 libtool.m4 is actually in acinclude.m4, in sane-backends_1.0.19 it's not Apr 06 17:36:33 acinclude.m4 is packaged with sane-backends? Apr 06 17:36:39 Crofton: yes Apr 06 17:36:43 does .19 build on a PC for you? Apr 06 17:37:13 Crofton: i dunno, .18 builds with bitbake with some custom patching, eventhough it's in the feeds Apr 06 17:39:02 inherit libtool gives me a parsing error Apr 06 17:52:23 scant, I don't think there is a libtool.bbclass :) Apr 06 17:52:54 Crofton: what happened to the thrift store? Apr 06 17:53:16 lots of procrastinating ,,,, Apr 06 17:54:34 Crofton: do I need to create a libtool.bbclass? Apr 06 17:54:40 no Apr 06 17:54:49 I think likewise was grasping at straws Apr 06 17:55:15 yes, just guessing and being totally dumb at solving autoconf/libtool stuff Apr 06 17:55:16 find ./tmp -name libtool.m4 .... Apr 06 17:55:22 most of us are Apr 06 17:55:28 :) Apr 06 17:55:46 do you want me to execute that cmd? Apr 06 17:58:00 Crofton: find ./tmp -name libtool.m4 : http://pastebin.ca/974250 Apr 06 17:59:44 hi all ! Apr 06 17:59:53 gm stefan_schmidt Apr 06 17:59:56 er steliosk Apr 06 18:00:29 steliosk: hi Apr 06 18:00:34 likewise : got the message :) Apr 06 18:00:42 steliosk: :-) Apr 06 18:00:45 what machine / distro are you using? Apr 06 18:01:05 Crofton: is that a question directed to me? Apr 06 18:01:07 steliosk: We will be replacing the STK1000's RAMs with bigger one's. Apr 06 18:01:47 steliosk: I got a project Koen could help me with, here and there. I think koen told you? Apr 06 18:01:51 scant, yes Apr 06 18:01:52 Crofton: I'm using NSLU2 SlugOS/BE Apr 06 18:02:22 scant, nothing is jumping out at me Apr 06 18:03:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7ce1c09c... 10/ (1 conf/machine/at32stk1000.conf conf/machine/atngw100.conf): at32st1000, atngw100: also generate tar.bz2 images for use on SD cards Apr 06 18:03:04 it seems like the m4 file shoudl end up in the build directory, just not sure how it is supposed to get there Apr 06 18:03:10 likewise : yeah, he send me a mail yesterday. How much more ram ? Apr 06 18:03:23 * Crofton really heads for the thrift store Apr 06 18:03:45 Crofton: can't I copy the libtool.m4 doing the do_stage or something Apr 06 18:03:55 Crofton : How was the vacations ? Apr 06 18:04:02 I don't know. It seems that in the schematics, it shows that some more column/row address lines are possible, so probably twice or quadruple the amount of RAM. Also, there is a secondary empty footprint for an extra ram. Apr 06 18:04:51 steliosk: we can do the soldering here, we also got an icemk2 debugger but it's still in the mail. Apr 06 18:05:27 likewise : hmmm i think that i had a discussion with someone from Atmel that told me that you can actually double the memory but no more Apr 06 18:05:42 haven't looked at it though Apr 06 18:06:53 likewise : of course you need to patch u-boot also, but i think its not that difficult ;) Apr 06 18:09:35 steliosk: well I am doubtfull myself as well... I haven't received the board yet, I could look at the schematics though. Apr 06 18:11:20 likewise : if you need more ram and an lcd better get an ngw100 and solder the display Apr 06 18:11:30 <|miska|> Does OE support some kind of use flags? Apr 06 18:11:36 steliosk: in fact, that was my proposal as well Apr 06 18:12:00 needs more work (in soldering) but others are using it also Apr 06 18:12:31 steliosk: my experience with touchscreen and their connections are zero. Apr 06 18:13:58 likewise: do you have any suggestions for me? Apr 06 18:14:05 scant: no sorry Apr 06 18:14:44 * steliosk thinks that touchscreen are glorified A2D converters ;) Apr 06 18:15:22 |miska| what is a "use flag" ? Apr 06 18:16:27 <|miska|> Well, some mechanism to specify that some features of package are optional... Apr 06 18:17:15 <|miska|> For example 'doc' Apr 06 18:18:17 <|miska|> If you are compiling some image which would be used by developer, it's useful to have plenty of documentation, but ordinary people doesn't need them Apr 06 18:19:02 <|miska|> Or some packages has optional dependencies enabling some optional features... Apr 06 18:23:43 |miska| No there is no "per image" build switch for packages, what you can do is decide if you will use a certain package in your image (doc for example) Apr 06 18:24:38 <|miska|> Ok, thanks :-( Apr 06 18:25:27 <|miska|> I meant global per package switch, but it doesn't change an answer :-D Apr 06 18:28:30 scant, try the oe-dev email list, larger audience Apr 06 18:30:29 Crofton: are you back from thrifting? Apr 06 18:33:30 |miska| My solution on a similar problem was to create 2 different packages and select which one to include depending on the image Apr 06 18:34:53 <|miska|> Ok, thanks Apr 06 18:36:43 <|miska|> Maybe using virtual package and preferred provider can be solution too... Apr 06 19:01:50 hi flo_lap Apr 06 19:04:30 mickeyl: With xmlrpclib is it possible to see if a connection is still connected somehow before trying to run a remote call fails? Apr 06 19:05:36 RP: no Apr 06 19:05:36 RP: you need to have a ping Apr 06 19:05:40 dummy method call Apr 06 19:05:45 which you can enclose in a try/except Apr 06 19:05:48 |miska| yes it can work also. it all depends on how "extensive" you want to make it Apr 06 19:06:03 hi RP, mickeyl Apr 06 19:06:12 mickeyl: ok, thanks. I was hoping that wasn't the ansrwer :) Apr 06 19:06:48 RP: you see that this can race? ping works, final call doesn't ;) Apr 06 19:07:28 zecke_: That isn't the problem. The problem is the server breaks and the client never notices Apr 06 19:09:02 zecke_: Making the server not break is obviously the proper fix but I don't like clients that hang either ;-) Apr 06 19:10:45 hi RP Apr 06 19:11:06 hi scant Apr 06 19:11:28 can u help me? Apr 06 19:12:58 RP: this is my sane-backends_1.0.19.bb: http://pastebin.ca/974157 Apr 06 19:12:58 this is my configure log: http://pastebin.ca/974159 Apr 06 19:13:14 Crofton wasn't able to figure it out, maybe you can Apr 06 19:14:59 scant: Where is this acinclude.m4 coming from? Apr 06 19:15:45 RP: sane-backends_1.0.19 Apr 06 19:17:28 RP: sane-backends_1.0.18 also has acinclude.m4, but it has libtool.m4 embedded in it, in sane-backends_1.0.19 doesn'thave libtool.m4 embedded in it, sane-backends_1.0.19 also includes m4/byteorder.m4 which i can't find Apr 06 19:19:33 scant: It should find and use OE's libtoool.m4 Apr 06 19:19:48 RP: even if i resolved the missing libtool.m4, i don't know what i'm goign to do about byteorder.m4, i think i'm supposed to manually copy libtool.m4 into /m4 in the do_configure stage, but i'm not sure, and again, even if i did that, byteorder.m4 is still missing Apr 06 19:20:21 RP: i guess it's not finding and using OE's libtool.m4 what should i do? Apr 06 19:20:22 scant: I'm wondering what happens if you remove acinclude.m4 ;-) Apr 06 19:20:36 RP: should I remoove acinclude.m4? Apr 06 19:20:48 It will either work or blow up horribly Apr 06 19:21:06 RP: how do I remove acinclude.m4, just delete it? Apr 06 19:22:06 Yes, but I've just downloaded it and that won't work ;-) Apr 06 19:22:30 RP: you downloaded it? is this a lost cause because it wants byteorder.m4 and i don't have byteorder.m4? Apr 06 19:24:28 scant: Patch the three include lines out of the end of acinclude.m4 and delete the byteorder and stdint check in configure.in ;-) Apr 06 19:24:39 That got it as far as compiling here... Apr 06 19:25:51 sadly you'll then need to patch the makefiles to use $(LIBTOOL) instead of ../libtool :/ Apr 06 19:26:01 its a mess :( Apr 06 19:26:36 RP: woah Apr 06 19:27:17 RP: will you be here for a bit while i do that? Apr 06 19:28:49 scant: who knows ;-) Apr 06 19:29:04 * RP is really trying to do other things :/ Apr 06 19:34:15 RP: i patched configure.in and acinclude.m4 Apr 06 19:34:22 scant: You want LIBTOOL=@LIBTOOL@ in Makefile.in Apr 06 19:35:01 RP: which Makefile.in, there are 11 of them Apr 06 19:35:33 The ones that break when you try and compile it ;-) Apr 06 19:36:11 backend/ lib/ and sanei/ at least Apr 06 19:36:20 RP: just paste LIBTOOL=@LIBTOOL@? where do i paste it? Apr 06 19:36:25 like where in the file Apr 06 19:37:00 and now I see byteorder.h: No such file or directory Apr 06 19:37:44 scant: Where do you think you might add it? Apr 06 19:37:54 Its common sense ;-) Apr 06 19:38:06 RP: I just added it after VERSION = @VERSION@ Apr 06 19:38:29 scant: Why there? Apr 06 19:38:48 RP: cause those were uppercase and the ones below it were lowercase Apr 06 19:39:09 scant: Did you look at the contents of the file for any other mentions of libtool? Apr 06 19:39:55 RP: in the Makefile.in in the root directory of the sane backends source distribution, there is only 1 reference to libtool and it's in a distclean section Apr 06 19:40:42 and did I suggest changing that one? Apr 06 19:41:11 [20:35:03] RP: which Makefile.in, there are 11 of them Apr 06 19:41:11 [20:35:34] The ones that break when you try and compile it ;-) Apr 06 19:41:11 [20:36:12] backend/ lib/ and sanei/ at least Apr 06 19:41:19 RP: no, but, I thought you meant that one too Apr 06 19:43:37 scant: This will get you so far but you're going to need to find that byteorder.m4 file :( Apr 06 19:44:00 scant: use there cvs tree, it could be there :) Apr 06 19:45:11 hmmm Apr 06 19:45:21 what do I do with byteorder.m4 once I find it? Apr 06 19:45:30 put it in the m4 directory Apr 06 19:46:03 or disable the bits that use byteorder.h Apr 06 19:47:00 RP: you mean don't find byteorder.h and try commenting out anything that references it? Apr 06 19:48:04 disabling drivers that reference it. Keep in mind I have little idea what this code does and which bits are important and which aren't though Apr 06 19:53:03 03rpurdie * r1045 10bitbake/lib/bb/ui/knotty.py: knotty.py: Rename frontend to server to make things a bit clearer Apr 06 19:55:17 RP: i've patched the files you directed to me Apr 06 19:55:33 RP: i'm going to see what happens, but i'm going to get the same byteorder error that you got Apr 06 20:00:25 03rpurdie * r1046 10bitbake/lib/bb/ (ui/uievent.py utils.py): utils.py: Improve compile/execute error messages Apr 06 20:01:24 03rpurdie * r1047 10bitbake/lib/bb/event.py: event.py: Clean up the event handling code and some legacy funtions Apr 06 20:03:02 03rpurdie * r1048 10bitbake/lib/bb/ (cooker.py xmlrpcserver.py): xmlrpcserver.py: Drop python 2.4 hacks, add BitBakeServerCommands class to make the server commands clearer Apr 06 20:15:42 RP: you still here? Apr 06 20:17:22 scant: yes Apr 06 20:19:54 I commented out the m4 lines in acinclude.m4 with a '#', but I think that's incorrect Apr 06 20:21:19 Personally I'd just patch them out... Apr 06 20:24:41 RP: trying again Apr 06 20:26:14 kergoth, you there? Apr 06 20:53:02 03rpurdie * r1049 10bitbake/bin/bitbake: Add experimental/toy dependency explorer UI (based on some code from Ross Burton but the bugs are mine\!) Apr 06 20:58:10 03rpurdie * r1050 10bitbake/lib/bb/ui/depexplorer.py: Add experimental/toy dependency explorer UI (based on some code from Ross Burton but the bugs are mine) Apr 06 21:27:21 how can I build angstrom images with opkg, 2.6.24 and all the new stuff Apr 06 22:10:28 anybody experiences the breakage of glibc-intermediate-2.6.1: not able to find limits.h Apr 06 22:21:58 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r262ebdec... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Apr 06 22:21:58 etk cvs etk_scrolled_view_dragable_combined_bouncy.patch and apply Apr 06 22:21:58 NOTE: etk is defacto unmaintained upstream. If you are interested to Apr 06 22:21:58 take it over, speak up! Apr 06 22:24:19 mickey|bbl: which one is better? Apr 06 22:26:10 this is tough to answer. they have different concepts. etk always seemed a bit more thought-through to me, but then again, it was the 2nd one and learned from some of ewl's mistakes. unfortunately, moom just announced that he has no longer any interest in etk. At the end of the day though, both are kind of a strange thing. Implementing an old-style toolkit on top of a new-style makes sense only for certain apps. that's why i rather want to see s Apr 06 22:26:10 ome mobile-optimized widgets directly in edje Apr 06 22:28:07 hehe Apr 06 22:29:56 all edje needs to really take off is some basic containers Apr 06 22:30:00 and some advanced ones Apr 06 22:30:15 but alas Apr 06 22:30:25 even there i'm running against windmills Apr 06 22:30:44 people not realizing what needs to be done Apr 06 22:30:45 *sigh* Apr 06 22:31:11 What are the chances of you solving the problem b4 mobile screen sizes get alrge enough to render the issue irelavant? Apr 06 22:31:16 :) Apr 06 22:31:24 heh Apr 06 22:31:31 it's not about screen size Apr 06 22:31:34 it's about behaviour Apr 06 22:31:43 about i/o differences Apr 06 22:31:45 * Crofton thinks physical size will limit that anyway Apr 06 22:31:47 yeah Apr 06 22:31:55 I am just being an ass :) Apr 06 22:31:56 then again, once brain interface comes all that UI stuff is void anyways :D Apr 06 22:32:42 true Apr 06 22:32:53 eventually we shall all have phones where pressing a combination of 11 digits on some UI will allow us to speak to each other :-) Apr 06 22:34:16 nah, that's science fiction Apr 06 22:34:55 heh heh Apr 06 22:45:13 RP: you still here? Apr 06 22:45:24 Crofton: RP was able to assist me Apr 06 22:54:10 mickey|bbl: (EFL toolkits) And you don't even know what some industry linux embedded companies like doing with EFL :) Apr 06 22:54:25 mickey|bbl: Had some interesting talks about this the last two weeks. :) Apr 06 22:55:31 right Apr 06 22:55:47 guess i should just run, grab some good guys, and just create something Apr 06 22:56:11 hmm sounds like a commercial Apr 06 22:56:12 just do it... Apr 06 22:56:31 * stefan_schmidt mubles something about EFL looking like windows makes him .... brrrr Apr 06 22:56:49 mickey|bbl: First I like to have 1-2 month rest Apr 06 22:57:20 right. i can't do anything before gsoc 2008 ends anyways Apr 06 23:00:28 * flo_lap feels quite similar Apr 06 23:48:32 03utx 07org.oe.dev * r74a86bc8... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Apr 06 23:48:32 Update of libpcre to version 7.6: Apr 06 23:48:32 * new major branch, new features Apr 06 23:48:32 * required for new goffice Apr 06 23:48:32 * uses automake, native-rpath-link.patch is no more needed Apr 06 23:48:33 * enabled UTF-8 for target build (required for new goffice) Apr 06 23:48:37 03utx 07org.oe.dev * rd4c83cf5... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Apr 06 23:48:39 goffice updated to version 0.6.2: Apr 06 23:48:41 * new stable branch Apr 06 23:48:43 * required by newer gnumeric Apr 06 23:48:45 * builds correctly in current OE Apr 06 23:48:47 * dropped obsolete versions Apr 06 23:48:49 03utx 07org.oe.dev * r69493b92... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Apr 06 23:48:51 gnumeric updated to version 1.8.2: Apr 06 23:48:53 * new stable branch Apr 06 23:48:55 03utx 07org.oe.dev * rc7dd0d08... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Apr 06 23:48:57 libgsf updated to version 1.14.8: Apr 06 23:49:01 * required for latest gnumeric Apr 06 23:56:01 * zecke wonders if we should just remove checksums.ini because no one is using it... Apr 06 23:58:52 hmm, wow another mtn fuck up Apr 07 00:03:34 03khem 07org.oe.dev * rac891e55... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Apr 07 00:03:34 Fix eglibc to make it build using OABI. Apr 07 00:03:34 Bring up to latest stable svn revision. Apr 07 00:03:34 Fix unused global variable problem in eglibc-package.bbclass. Apr 07 00:14:21 ~lart mtn for lack of mtn commit --amend Apr 07 00:14:21 * ibot takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in mtn's direction, hitting mtn and sending mtn flying into the closet for lack of mtn commit --amend Apr 07 02:27:36 hi Apr 07 02:28:04 have any one can help me about openembedded? Apr 07 02:29:50 i am use oe in FC6,but binutils is error **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 07 02:59:56 2008