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Apr 10 06:35:58 <law> hi i get lots of these errors: ERROR: QA Issue: pango-tibetan-fc.la failed sanity test (workdir) in path /opt/OE/angstrom-tmp//staging/arm-angstrom-linux/usr/lib/pango/1.6.0/modules
Apr 10 06:36:08 <law> any ideas? bitbake 1.8.10 ?
Apr 10 06:42:38 <hrw> morning
Apr 10 07:30:34 <khem> hrw: moin moin
Apr 10 07:36:40 <khem> hrw: do you play with qemu sometimes 
Apr 10 07:37:01 <hrw> khem: I use qemu for testing Poky
Apr 10 07:37:19 <hrw> khem: I will be back in ~20m - need to buy bread for breakfast
Apr 10 07:37:25 <khem> hrw: have you tried OE one ?
Apr 10 07:37:32 <khem> hrw ok
Apr 10 07:37:41 <hrw> OE got qemu from Poky ;D
Apr 10 07:38:27 <khem> hrw: yeah I see 0.9.1 is broken 
Apr 10 07:38:41 <khem> 0.9.0 kinda works
Apr 10 07:39:46 <khem> in OE but then I have issues with X not accepting my touchscreen inputs even though od on /dev/input/touchscreen0 dumps data when I click on screen so it seems kernel is fine  its X who is not getting the data
Apr 10 07:54:17 <Genesis> Hiya!
Apr 10 07:59:48 <hrw> khem: do not use 1.4 xserver
Apr 10 08:00:05 <khem> hrw: hmmm ok
Apr 10 08:00:16 <hrw> 1.3 works
Apr 10 08:00:18 <khem> hrw: what problems does it have
Apr 10 08:00:25 <hrw> 1.4 is broken
Apr 10 08:00:29 <khem> hrw: OK 
Apr 10 08:00:40 * hrw -> Mira
Apr 10 08:00:41 <khem> lemme check I am using angstrom.2008
Apr 10 08:05:48 <law> ERROR: QA Issue: libgtk-x11-2.0.la failed sanity test (workdir) in path /opt/OE/angstrom-tmp//staging/arm-angstrom-linux/usr/lib
Apr 10 08:06:13 <law> hmm but libgtk-x11 is in this directory
Apr 10 08:06:52 <khem> hrw: I am using PREFERRED_VERSION_xserver-kdrive ?= "1.3.0.0"
Apr 10 08:07:14 <khem> hrw: I did that purposefully in the conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf
Apr 10 08:09:45 <mrt2k7> hi guys...does anyone know how I can debug Xfbdev why it finds no screen? 
Apr 10 08:17:58 <hrw> no fb0?
Apr 10 08:18:27 <mrt2k7> arghl.../dev/fb0 exists
Apr 10 08:18:52 <mrt2k7> i'm running it in qemu, but some linux live cds with fbdev work fine
Apr 10 08:19:28 <mrt2k7> i also have all important kernel features compiled in, like input devices, hid, drm, ...
Apr 10 08:19:53 <mrt2k7> and various FB-devices
Apr 10 08:23:22 <hrw> mrt2k7: x86 qemu?
Apr 10 08:23:30 <hrw> khem: can you share image/kernel?
Apr 10 08:23:54 <mrt2k7> hrw: yes
Apr 10 08:24:20 <khem> hrw: I tried poky image on it and that works well
Apr 10 08:24:23 <hrw> mrt2k7: I mostly use arm qemu
Apr 10 08:25:09 <RP> cedric: See the comments about kdrive above, I wonder if thats your touchscreen problem?
Apr 10 08:42:22 <khem> hrw: here is the kernel image  http://sakrah.dyndns.org/zImage-qemuarm.bin
Apr 10 08:58:15 <mrt2k7> wohaaa..it works. maybe because i'm running a second qemu-vm with fbdev working? maybe i'm missing some initial config for fbdev in my build?
Apr 10 09:04:20 <CIA-21> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb566d22f... 10/ (1 packages/jikes/files/dummy packages/jikes/jikes-initial.bb): jikes-initial: work around a problem with packaged-staging
Apr 10 09:04:41 <hrw> khem: fetched
Apr 10 09:13:39 <asch> If I want to submit a patch, it goes to the bugtracker as well? Or is there a separate patch tracker for OE?
Apr 10 09:13:53 <asch> Hello by the way.
Apr 10 09:14:01 <XorA|gone> asch: bugzilla
Apr 10 09:14:07 <asch> Aye.
Apr 10 09:14:16 <XorA|gone> and hello
Apr 10 09:23:34 <hrw> khem: and image?
Apr 10 09:29:04 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4176 has been created by alexander.schuch(AT)taskit.de
Apr 10 09:29:06 <cdbot2> * * Patch for Ruby 1.8.5 to compile with sockets
Apr 10 09:29:08 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4176
Apr 10 09:29:43 <mrt2k7> ok, for the logs: if you want to use xserver-kdrive in qemu (x86), XVesa seems to work
Apr 10 09:36:00 <mrt2k7> how can i choose xserver-kdrive-vesa as default? PREFERRED_VERSION_xserver-kdrive = "vesa" gives:
Apr 10 09:36:10 <mrt2k7> NOTE: preferred version vesa of xserver-kdrive not available (for item xserver-kdrive-vesa)
Apr 10 09:39:58 <XorA|gone> mrt2k7: XSERVER = "xserver-kdrive-vesa"
Apr 10 09:40:08 <mrt2k7> oh, thx!
Apr 10 09:40:18 <mrt2k7> can i do that for testing in my local.conf?
Apr 10 09:40:31 <XorA|gone> you will have to rebuild something like tast-base for that to work
Apr 10 09:40:47 <XorA|gone> grep -rn XSERVER packages/* to find the right package to rebuild
Apr 10 09:40:50 <mrt2k7> ok, muchos gracias :)
Apr 10 09:47:55 <mrt2k7> short question again: how can i avoid that the root passwd is invalid - seems to be something like a release build?
Apr 10 09:58:03 <florian> good morning
Apr 10 10:20:24 <pb_> florian, mickeyl: good morning
Apr 10 10:21:02 <florian> hey pb_ 
Apr 10 10:22:20 <mickeyl> hey pb_ !
Apr 10 10:23:00 <florian> pb_, mickeyl: How are your plans for LinuxTag?
Apr 10 10:23:36 <mickeyl> i will be there, however i don't know how much time i can spend at the OE booth, since OM has a commercial booth and i'm required to be there as well
Apr 10 10:24:07 <florian> mickeyl: ah, good to see that you finally mmanaged to organise a booth :-)
Apr 10 10:25:06 <Crofton> mickeyl, you need a clone
Apr 10 10:25:06 <mickeyl> yeah
Apr 10 10:25:12 <mickeyl> Crofton: one? two ;)
Apr 10 10:25:29 <Crofton> ah one to stay home :)
Apr 10 10:25:36 <florian> Crofton: I tried that... takes too long :)
Apr 10 10:26:33 <florian> But the result is quite cute :-)
Apr 10 10:26:36 <Crofton> ah, to be a cylon
Apr 10 10:27:01 <steliosk> cp -a myself myslef-copy1
Apr 10 10:27:06 <XorA|gone> Crofton: dont persuade all of #oe to fork, otherwise there will be no-one left
Apr 10 10:27:28 <steliosk> XorA|gone : will clone them
Apr 10 10:27:31 <steliosk> also
Apr 10 10:27:55 <florian> XorA|gone: Forking does not necessary mean to fork away from the termainal ;)
Apr 10 10:28:15 <XorA|gone> florian: I see from hrw that forking takes excess resources :-)
Apr 10 10:28:31 <florian> XorA|gone: yes that's true... 
Apr 10 10:29:29 * XorA|gone is a win95 based OS and doesnt fork
Apr 10 10:29:56 <steliosk> XorA : Ok now everything is explained ;)
Apr 10 10:30:15 <steliosk> XorA : waiting for 2009 version ?
Apr 10 10:33:35 <Crofton> We'll need daycare at the next OEDM ...
Apr 10 10:34:10 <XorA> Crofton: heh heh
Apr 10 10:34:23 <XorA> steliosk: are you prepared for the creche?
Apr 10 10:36:40 * steliosk wonders what creche is
Apr 10 10:37:14 <broonie> Place to leave children while you go and do other stuff.
Apr 10 10:38:10 <steliosk> Crofton : One thing i learned over the years, is never bring your wife/girlfriend to a venue that has no interest for them all your wallet will suffer...
Apr 10 10:38:11 <Crofton> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A8che
Apr 10 10:38:20 <Crofton> yes
Apr 10 10:38:38 <mrt2k7> i think mpfr-native won't compile with parallel make...i read somewhere that one should contact devs when one finds packages like this one
Apr 10 10:38:55 <steliosk> usually they end up going into a shopping spree
Apr 10 10:40:31 <steliosk> last time i took my wife to an Electronica fair and my colleagues did the same, we end it mailing the brochures and stuff i got from the fair, because there was no room in the luggage
Apr 10 10:41:43 <steliosk> mrt2k7 : hmm strange never had any problems with mpfr-native
Apr 10 10:42:41 <mrt2k7> steliosk: i have problems every time i do a fresh start
Apr 10 10:43:05 <mrt2k7> hm, i deactived parallel make, bbthreads and icecc, now its gettext which is failing
Apr 10 10:47:36 <mrt2k7> with a -crebuild, it works again
Apr 10 10:51:06 <steliosk> mrt2k7 : weird
Apr 10 10:52:23 <mrt2k7> yes, indeed
Apr 10 11:01:28 <pb_> florian: hm, good question.  I don't have any plans yet.  It's at the end of May, right?
Apr 10 11:02:08 <florian> pb_: right
Apr 10 11:03:12 <pb_> I think I should be able to go there for at least a day or two.  I will have to check with my wife :-}
Apr 10 11:04:07 <florian> pb_: Right, you should do that and bring your wife with you :-)
Apr 10 11:05:47 <pb_> heh, that is a good idea.  I will have to think of some pretext why she would enjoy visiting Berlin.
Apr 10 11:06:55 <mickeyl> the wall.... err, no
Apr 10 11:06:57 <mickeyl> ;)
Apr 10 11:07:19 <florian> pb_: That worked out of the box for my wife last year...
Apr 10 11:07:27 <florian> mickeyl: too late ;)
Apr 10 11:07:35 <mickeyl> heh, right
Apr 10 11:09:27 <florian> mickeyl: we should finish the eV stuff... do we have a valid plan already?
Apr 10 11:14:47 <florian> brb, food
Apr 10 11:16:38 <hrw> ~curse maemo related craps
Apr 10 11:16:38 <ibot> May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, maemo related craps !
Apr 10 11:16:55 <hrw> crappy makefiles etc..
Apr 10 11:18:12 <asch> LinuxTag is in Berlin, Germany?
Apr 10 11:19:36 <asch> Looked it up at their website.
Apr 10 12:11:44 <florian> re
Apr 10 12:13:26 <law> hi florian 
Apr 10 12:14:03 <law> btw. http://rpm5.org/files/popt/popt-1.13.tar.gz this is the correct SRC_URI for popt ...
Apr 10 12:16:34 <florian> hi law 
Apr 10 12:21:26 <Jin^eLD> re
Apr 10 12:21:55 <Jin^eLD> news on the page says: "Besides "org.openembedded.dev" there now is the "org.openembedded.stable" branch." - isn't it "org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable"?
Apr 10 12:21:58 <Jin^eLD> or has this changed?
Apr 10 12:22:05 <hrw> changed
Apr 10 12:24:28 <Jin^eLD> thx
Apr 10 13:20:30 <asch> What is this line supposed to mean? 'ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND += "adduser -D user"' in gpe-image-blank-user.bb?
Apr 10 13:21:04 <asch> I checked man pages of different Unix distributions and all I could find is -D for showing/changing the default useradd options.
Apr 10 13:21:36 <hrw> useradd != adduser
Apr 10 13:21:46 <asch> *adduser
Apr 10 13:21:49 <asch> My typo.
Apr 10 13:22:44 <asch> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=adduser -- I checked the available manual pages of all listed distributions there.
Apr 10 13:57:44 <VoodooZ> morning
Apr 10 13:59:15 <VoodooZ> can someone recommend an embedded linux distro that uses the RT patches?
Apr 10 13:59:53 <hrw> VoodooZ: any OE based?
Apr 10 14:00:13 <hrw> there are few(?) machines in OE which use RT
Apr 10 14:00:31 <VoodooZ> really?
Apr 10 14:00:42 <VoodooZ> I'm already using slugos..
Apr 10 14:01:44 <VoodooZ> I'm trying to implement a 20hz sensors loop for the motors and the darn thing is all over the map so I'm trying to optimize my code...
Apr 10 14:02:07 <VoodooZ> but there are more optimizations possible with the RT stuff.
Apr 10 14:03:00 <VoodooZ> hrw: which machines use RT?
Apr 10 14:05:19 <hrw> mpc8313e-rdb
Apr 10 14:05:44 <VoodooZ> and what distro serves this machine?
Apr 10 14:05:50 <hrw> VoodooZ: Cliff Brake wrote some time ago about RT iirc
Apr 10 14:05:56 <hrw> VoodooZ: check who maintain it?
Apr 10 14:08:27 <mrdata> hi all
Apr 10 14:08:48 <Jin^eLD> hi
Apr 10 14:42:48 <CIA-21> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re62578e5... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-pydirectfb_cvs.bb): pydirectfb cvs needs directfb (surprise!)
Apr 10 14:42:53 <CIA-21> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbf2f7934... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-pyserial_2.2.bb): python-pyserial 2.2 RDEPENDS on python-stringold (darn)
Apr 10 14:51:41 <CIA-21> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r00af74fa... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-dbus_0.82.4.bb): python-dbus 0.82.4 RDEPENDS on python-xml
Apr 10 14:51:46 <CIA-21> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re60a8f72... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): python 2.5.2 python-xml does _not_ RDEPENDS on python-netclient (what was i thinking?)
Apr 10 15:32:57 <CIA-21> 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r894eccb0... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-2.5-manifest.inc): python: Fix parsing error
Apr 10 15:44:22 <khem> hrw: I went o sleep here is the root file system image http://sakrah.dyndns.org/Angstrom-x11-image-eglibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20080410-qemuarm.rootfs.ext2
Apr 10 15:47:55 <hrw> khem: will check tomorrow - today have to go
Apr 10 15:48:35 <hrw|gone> khem: next time - compress images before putting on web.
Apr 10 15:48:41 <hrw|gone> it will take hour to fetch
Apr 10 15:49:52 <hrw|gone> bye
Apr 10 16:03:30 <khem> hrw|gone: sorry bout that 
Apr 10 17:57:42 <Jin^eLD> hmm
Apr 10 17:57:47 <eekee> allo, anyone know what provides the "bl" executable? I uninstalled a bunch of X stuff & it's gone
Apr 10 17:58:13 <Jin^eLD> org.openembedded.stable fails building uclibc with arm-uclinuxeabi-gccar: command not found, must be a typo somewhere... while org.openembedded.angstrom-xxx works
Apr 10 18:10:05 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4177 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
Apr 10 18:10:07 <cdbot2> * * busybox-1.9.1-autobuild
Apr 10 18:10:09 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4177
Apr 10 18:10:54 <eekee> oh it is a bot. and here I was thinking I'd spammed a live user for help earlier
Apr 10 18:11:43 <summatusmentis> spammed a live user? how?
Apr 10 18:13:56 <eekee> I messaged cdbot2 with stuff like "help" and "info" and when it didn't respond I thought "oops, maybe that was an actual person and not a bot"
Apr 10 18:18:40 <summatusmentis> lol
Apr 10 18:18:50 <summatusmentis> it's really just a commit updater
Apr 10 18:18:53 <summatusmentis> afaik
Apr 10 18:45:23 <flo_lap> re
Apr 10 19:28:38 <thesing> hi everybody
Apr 10 19:28:47 <Jin^eLD> hi
Apr 10 19:31:14 <hrw> morning
Apr 10 19:31:18 <hrw> hi thesing 
Apr 10 19:31:35 <hrw> summatusmentis_: cdbot2 is bugzilla announcer
Apr 10 19:31:44 <hrw> thesing: do you read lakml?
Apr 10 19:32:14 <thesing> hrw: yes. I read about the scoop and gpiolib stuff.
Apr 10 19:32:47 <thesing> hrw: its time that I learn how to use git and submit some patches.
Apr 10 19:33:08 <hrw> thesing: cool
Apr 10 19:33:12 <hrw> hi greentux
Apr 10 19:34:35 <hrw> thesing: git is nice tool to use
Apr 10 19:36:01 <thesing> hrw: I only tried once when it was still young and didn't like it. But everybody says that newer versions are usable.
Apr 10 19:36:33 <chouimat|work> thesing: true but the ui still sucks
Apr 10 19:38:07 <VoodooZ> anybody else has a busted gpsd build?
Apr 10 19:39:45 <thesing> is there a *good* tutorial on git out there?
Apr 10 19:41:49 <hrw> I used man pages + local git gurus
Apr 10 19:42:51 <VoodooZ> the dietx11 patch stage fails: NOTE: Applying patch 'x11_disable_makekeys.patch' (/slug/head/slugos/openembedded/packages/xorg-lib/libx11/x11_disable_makekeys.patch)
Apr 10 19:43:02 <thesing> I prefer to read a bit before I loose data ;)
Apr 10 19:43:32 <VoodooZ> Error: /slug/head/slugos/openembedded/packages/xorg-lib/libx11/x11_disable_makekeys.patch not found.
Apr 10 19:46:26 <hrw> VoodooZ: which ver?
Apr 10 19:47:04 <hrw> ok, my fault
Apr 10 19:47:34 <VoodooZ> hehehe.
Apr 10 19:47:49 <VoodooZ> breaking stuff is a full time job for me! :)
Apr 10 19:48:47 <hrw> pushing
Apr 10 19:48:52 <VoodooZ> diet-x11-1_1.1.4-r3 as required by gpsd
Apr 10 19:49:22 <VoodooZ> well, the default pacakge requires it, I don't I only need the deamon and libgpsd for my robot.
Apr 10 19:49:23 <thesing> hrw: in poky there is SATO_IMAGE_FEATURES = "... apps-x11-sato ... " in poky-image.bbclass but there is no apps-x11-sato anywhere else. Is this on purpose?
Apr 10 19:49:23 <hrw> pushed
Apr 10 19:49:34 <VoodooZ> thanks.
Apr 10 19:49:46 <hrw> thesing: task-poky?
Apr 10 19:49:48 <VoodooZ> I guess I'll have to wait 'til the slugos servers digest it..
Apr 10 19:50:32 <hrw> thesing: I see
Apr 10 19:50:40 <CIA-21> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * raeceb77f... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): wv: Fix DEPENDS and pkgconfig file (from Poky)
Apr 10 19:50:48 <CIA-21> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r486564af... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/libx11/x11_disable_makekeys.patch): libx11: added forgotten patch
Apr 10 20:01:38 <hrw|gone> http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/n800-qemu.png
Apr 10 20:01:41 <hrw|gone> more tomorrow
Apr 10 20:23:35 <flo_lap> hrw|gone: nice!
Apr 10 20:25:42 <CIA-21> 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r24e92650... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb): dreambox-dvb-modules: update drivers for dm800
Apr 10 20:25:45 <CIA-21> 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r0e417fc3... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2.bb): enigma2: update to 20080411
Apr 11 01:32:25 <LoneStar> hello all, I'm having problems during setting up openembedded
Apr 11 01:32:34 <LoneStar> is this the right place to ask?
Apr 11 01:36:56 <LoneStar> bitbake simply refuse to work, saying "ERROR: No providers of build target nano (for [])"
Apr 11 01:39:39 <LoneStar> I'm following the instructions on http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted
Apr 11 02:24:08 <Crofton> LoneStar, pastebin the entire set of messages
Apr 11 02:24:19 <Crofton> but I am off to bed soon ...
Apr 11 02:25:05 <LoneStar> fine, have a nice dream
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