**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 17 02:59:57 2008 Apr 17 07:23:07 Hi, I have a problem building OE for x86...are there someone can help me? Apr 17 07:38:36 henomis79 simply ask Apr 17 07:39:38 thanks Apr 17 07:39:42 well.. Apr 17 07:40:46 I would build OE for a generic x86 machine (qemux86?) but with x-server-xorg and not x-server-kdrive Apr 17 07:42:37 henomis79: Maybe you should look at this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Host-based_development_with_Xoo_and_Xephyr Apr 17 07:43:23 henomis : change the PREFFERED_PROVIDER to PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/xserver ?= "xserver-xorg" for starters Apr 17 07:44:18 steliosk: done. but I have some error on compiling Apr 17 07:44:35 which distro ? which branch Apr 17 07:44:38 ? Apr 17 07:46:12 steliosk: I'm following the instructions at http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Apr 17 07:46:22 with org.openembedded.dev Apr 17 07:46:28 anche distro generic Apr 17 07:46:32 and Apr 17 07:46:50 distro generic does not build Apr 17 07:46:54 use angstrom Apr 17 07:47:06 MACHINE=x86 Apr 17 07:48:19 and once you change distro make sure wou wipe your tmp dir Apr 17 07:48:39 DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" ? Apr 17 07:49:41 yes Apr 17 07:50:49 henomis : FYI http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Apr 17 07:51:00 to see the settings to build it Apr 17 07:51:48 I'll setup DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" ; MACHINE = x86 ; PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/xserver ?= "xserver-xorg" Apr 17 07:52:33 and witch argument must i pass to bitbake? $ bitbake gpe-image ?? Apr 17 07:53:18 bitbake base-image ; bitbake console-image ; bitbake x11-image Apr 17 07:53:18 Step 5 Apr 17 07:53:29 looks at the like Apr 17 07:53:36 s/like/link Apr 17 07:54:47 good. Thanks Apr 17 08:26:39 bonjour ! Apr 17 09:21:47 morning Apr 17 09:35:12 morning Apr 17 09:53:20 good morning Apr 17 10:04:45 re Apr 17 10:24:32 ~curse OpenEmbedded PR department Apr 17 10:24:33 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, OpenEmbedded PR department ! Apr 17 10:24:39 http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9696858938.html Apr 17 10:33:58 03pieterg 07org.oe.dev * r7d603cc0... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): xserver-kdrive 1.4.99.901: allow builds without xkb Apr 17 11:06:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0889940e... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_1.4.99.901.bb): xserver-kdrive 1.4.99.901: disable w100 Apr 17 11:06:54 hrw ?? what does that means? Apr 17 11:07:15 it's a nice arch, but it has some purpouse? :) Apr 17 11:08:00 methril: OE lack PR department. When I read LD there are lot of posts from TimeSys, MontaVista about new things they support. Often OE also supports them but no info ever came about it Apr 17 11:08:42 thnks :) Apr 17 11:09:11 hrw: time for us to form one I thinks Apr 17 11:12:08 hrw: but instead of relying on one or two people all interested should join, if two people write same release then we can always combine them Apr 17 11:56:25 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rbe944a90... 10/ (1 packages/libmms packages/libmms/libmms_0.2.bb): libmms: add package Apr 17 11:56:28 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r0e0fc9ad... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): python: backport ctypes fix Apr 17 11:56:32 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r7f2d4817... 10/ (1 packages/gdb/gdb-cross_6.6.50.20061209.bb): gdb-cross: fix build by disabling werror Apr 17 11:56:36 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * re5009f1f... 10/ (13 files in 3 dirs): autoconf: add 2.61 Apr 17 11:56:40 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r510c4029... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): gstreamer: update various versions Apr 17 11:56:46 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r3f708b5e... 10/ (1 packages/neon/neon_0.28.2.bb): neon: add version 0.28.2 Apr 17 12:01:37 Hi everyone Apr 17 12:03:13 I am having problems with bitbake Apr 17 12:03:21 want to use it as root Apr 17 12:03:45 it has to do with sanity.conf but don't know how to Apr 17 12:03:57 dont run it as root Apr 17 12:03:59 thats crazy Apr 17 12:04:02 you should never use it as root Apr 17 12:04:04 yeah Apr 17 12:07:19 before this I had some other wierd problem that was ":'FetchData' object has no attribute 'tag' Apr 17 12:07:19 " Apr 17 12:07:48 sounds like bitbake version isnt upto date Apr 17 12:07:55 then I did mtn update and here I am with root not being allowed Apr 17 12:07:55 1.8.10 is AFAIR the latest Apr 17 12:08:12 So howto update Apr 17 12:08:28 go back to www.openembedded.org/GettingStarted Apr 17 12:08:35 :) Apr 17 12:09:07 but running OE as root is really dangerous, some stupid makefiles do stuff like rm -rf /usr/xxx Apr 17 12:09:12 * CM pokes shaz with a root Apr 17 12:09:32 and we cant always catch them all :-) Apr 17 12:09:43 like pokemon Apr 17 12:10:11 so no one is going to tell me how to do it with root .... fine Apr 17 12:10:38 shaz: it is easy to use bitbake as root Apr 17 12:10:40 shaz: nope, we done want sued when you lose / :-) Apr 17 12:10:49 first step is "rm -rf /" Apr 17 12:10:54 shaz: is there any particular reason why you want to run it as root? Apr 17 12:10:59 hrw :)) Apr 17 12:11:19 I can't create another user. Its boring ;) Apr 17 12:11:30 I have to add one day recipe for it Apr 17 12:11:50 if uid = 0 then add 'rm-all-and-tell-why-root-is-bad' recipe Apr 17 12:12:03 ok Ok Apr 17 12:12:08 I get it Apr 17 12:12:32 shaz: building software as root is always risky Apr 17 12:12:48 shaz: I assume that you have strong win32 history - right? Apr 17 12:12:50 windows-everybody-administrator-badness Apr 17 12:14:26 I guess you are right. I should give up using root. Apr 17 12:15:44 btw, since there's talk about the root thing :> I have a little problem related to taht... the image produced by OE contains /dev entries, if I unpack the tar as user those dev entries are not created/can not be unpacked, if I use fakeroot they are unpacked but are not dev entries but just touched text files or something Apr 17 12:16:08 but I guess there must be a way since OE manages to make a tar with those dev entries without superuser priveleges Apr 17 12:16:10 any hints? Apr 17 12:16:56 The error stated that a change in /oe/conf/sanity.conf can do it Apr 17 12:17:21 I was'nt able to get anything out of it Apr 17 12:18:11 Now as an unpreviliged user I get more errors Apr 17 12:19:43 shaz: stop using redora3.7 then Apr 17 12:20:10 I use fedora 6 Apr 17 12:20:33 shaz: I also use fedora 6 as well as fedora 7 Apr 17 12:20:41 and error is about missing /dev/oe7 entry? Apr 17 12:21:11 hi there Apr 17 12:21:24 hrw: is it my client or are your messages messed up? " and error is about missing /dev/oe7 entry?" <- /dev/oe7 entry?? Apr 17 12:22:57 Jin^eLD: I suspect that this is error which shaz gets Apr 17 12:23:06 oh, sorry Apr 17 12:23:12 what is /dev/oe7 ? Apr 17 12:23:16 Jin^eLD: no idea Apr 17 12:23:18 I thought that was some kind of typo :) Apr 17 12:23:28 Jin^eLD: it is his error Apr 17 12:23:49 oh Apr 17 12:25:30 but thats only guess as he prefer to not share error informations Apr 17 12:26:21 :> Apr 17 12:27:31 I am comming to that its just that I am not used to non root usage and can't get to redirect stderr to a file at the moment Apr 17 12:27:37 plz dont laugh Apr 17 12:27:49 I can be more smarter at time Apr 17 12:28:26 shaz: ok, I just have seen too many users which complained but never told what breaks Apr 17 12:28:38 shaz: dont forget to chown -R : any directories you tried to use as root Apr 17 12:28:58 hrw: I thought you were taking PR lessons from koen there :-) Apr 17 12:29:25 thanx because I was about to make my normal user to share uid with root Apr 17 12:29:36 ;) Apr 17 12:29:57 shaz: you a windows guy by trade? Apr 17 12:30:17 both Apr 17 12:30:19 XorA: Koen can learn from me ;D Apr 17 12:30:36 shaz: :-D Apr 17 12:31:46 I'm not certain our Cortex-A8 support is 100% yet Apr 17 12:31:57 i'm having ERROR: EOL while scanning single-quoted string (line 1) while parsing /opt/deuta-p4//org.openembedded.stable/packages/maemo4/hildo Apr 17 12:32:00 n-1_svn.bb Apr 17 12:32:15 errors with org.openembedded.stable Apr 17 12:32:19 any clue? Apr 17 12:33:18 Crofton: doesnt matter, Ill bet MV's isnt either, they will use the support money to complete it like any other toolchain developer Apr 17 12:34:18 zarath: your distro does not include conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc - right? Apr 17 12:34:52 i will have a look Apr 17 12:35:29 i have them Apr 17 12:35:42 but maybee they are too old? Apr 17 12:36:14 or do not contain hildon line Apr 17 12:37:13 ~curse monotone 'speed' Apr 17 12:37:14 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, monotone 'speed' ! Apr 17 12:37:46 here it is after some delays http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m1c20166d Apr 17 12:39:13 i have copied distro/include/ from org.openembedded.stable to be up to date now Apr 17 12:39:20 but same truble Apr 17 12:39:27 XorA, funny, I had the exact same thought Apr 17 12:40:13 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ree3ad249... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): util-macros: added forgotten patch for 1.1.6 Apr 17 12:40:45 I am trying some more on intuition till get some expert opinion from you guys Apr 17 12:41:02 shaz: use pastebin and show your errors Apr 17 12:41:08 shaz: they are probably quite simple Apr 17 12:41:25 shaz: sorry I missed URL Apr 17 12:42:05 No problem I do it all the time Apr 17 12:42:11 shaz: you missed a 2>&1 before that >/tmp/err Apr 17 12:42:24 shaz: error stream is missing and I cant decode without it Apr 17 12:42:36 shaz: http://pokylinux.org/ -> support -> handbook - this will give you nice document to read about OE/Poky Apr 17 12:42:43 * hrw -> shop Apr 17 12:43:07 ok but let me do one more pastebin posting before going to that Apr 17 12:44:46 now this can be more useful: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m5f785374 Apr 17 12:45:54 BBPATH in environment is wrong Apr 17 12:46:17 now thats a funny one let me check Apr 17 12:46:25 shaz: btw if you are building openmoko, then MokoMakefile makes it easy Apr 17 12:46:47 I had a much more problems with it then this Apr 17 12:46:50 XorA: BBPATH at my env? Apr 17 12:47:01 zarath: that was for shaz Apr 17 12:47:13 ah, ok Apr 17 12:49:08 BBPATH seems to be fine according to my small understanding Apr 17 12:49:57 mine is /home/dp/openmoko/build-xora:/home/dp/openmoko/org.openmoko.xora.qtopia as an examplew Apr 17 12:50:21 and BBFILES BBFILES := "${HOME}/openmoko/org.openmoko.xora.qtopia/packages/*/*.bb" Apr 17 12:50:26 to match Apr 17 12:50:52 shaz: How can the makefile be more complicated? I've used it a lot, and it's definitely easier for a newbie Apr 17 12:52:09 By the way now that I've done all the openmoko downloading and oe downloading and monotone and bitbake so do you still recommend I go back to makefile Apr 17 12:53:00 shaz: stick with what makes you happy, should be one simple config to get what you have got working Apr 17 12:53:09 ? Apr 17 12:53:37 shaz: I have a 4 line config and one env variable set to build openmoko Apr 17 12:53:48 I don't have BBFILES Apr 17 12:54:02 how do you do that with 4 lines Apr 17 12:54:17 shaz: gimme a sec, Ill pastebin my local.conf Apr 17 12:54:28 hey I've done that Apr 17 12:54:43 http://www.pastebin.ca/988263 Apr 17 12:54:53 I followed openmoko wiki from scratch Apr 17 12:54:57 XorA: my shame, I haven't adjusted bbpath Apr 17 12:54:58 let me see ... Apr 17 12:55:10 zarath: wow fixed your problem by fluke :-) Apr 17 12:56:01 yes, why can't life ever be so easy... Apr 17 12:56:08 openmoko wiki from scratch it's out to date Apr 17 12:56:34 yeah I need time to fix that wiki page, seems some crazies from community put a lot of wierd stuff in it Apr 17 12:57:02 shaz: Maybe give the makefile a chance, starting in a new directory and just copying the OE.mtn.bz2 file into it Apr 17 12:57:14 i was trying it some times and then, as i didn't have enough time, i'll try with mokomakefile and it works perfectly :) Apr 17 12:57:52 my local.conf is http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d5c09785 Apr 17 12:58:35 I followed the wiki very carefully Apr 17 12:58:41 shaz: take mine, set appropriate paths Apr 17 12:58:59 shaz: last I looked at wiki some crazy had written random wrongness all over it Apr 17 12:59:06 shaz: this is the problem with wikis Apr 17 12:59:52 ok thanx. I'll try this and let you know. Apr 17 13:00:03 shaz: or give me ssh access :-) Apr 17 13:00:24 XorA: As root, of course.. ;) Apr 17 13:00:36 hahaha Apr 17 13:04:57 XorA: use 'protect' option more often? Apr 17 13:05:21 hrw|afk: eh? Apr 17 13:06:08 XorA: 'protect' is option (for mediawiki admins) to disable editing by non-admins Apr 17 13:06:31 hrw: bah, Im not a media wiki admin and have no wish to be Apr 17 13:06:36 XorA: but I suspect that no one in openmoko works as such one Apr 17 13:07:26 good mornin' Apr 17 13:07:31 hi mwester Apr 17 13:08:38 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb96f9f2c... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/libx11-native_1.1.4.bb): libx11-native 1.1.4: do not provide libx11 Apr 17 13:22:51 boost buildsystem is insane Apr 17 13:27:01 boost is really quite over-the-top, IMO ;) Apr 17 13:31:04 compiling blas atlas is a real pain too, but you sure get optimized libs Apr 17 13:31:37 after few months I left openmoko-devel Apr 17 13:32:00 why? Apr 17 13:32:03 the mailing list you mean? Apr 17 13:32:05 hrw? Apr 17 13:32:20 irc channel Apr 17 13:32:58 openmoko-devel ML is low traffic Apr 17 13:35:29 I am losing faith when it comes to openmoko Apr 17 13:36:17 * mwester decides not to say anything, because it seems to get him in trouble so often. ;) Apr 17 13:37:19 * XorA shoots mwester for not being the messenger Apr 17 13:37:33 mwester: I feel that they like to reinvent everything each few months Apr 17 13:37:45 then GTA02 will hit mass market and fail Apr 17 13:39:28 or will be bought by geeks only so there will be some cash for GTA03 which will end also as geeks only due to GSM modem taken from Nokia 3310 (instead of TI Calypso from 2000 year) Apr 17 13:39:57 according to TI Calypso NDA documentation it is 2000 year chip Apr 17 13:41:37 does FIC found few boxes with them in basement during cleaning? Apr 17 13:55:57 I think they stole them from the Klingons over the road Apr 17 14:00:34 ;D Apr 17 14:01:10 ~curse boost Apr 17 14:01:10 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, boost ! Apr 17 14:02:37 It's good for something -- I build the boost libraries and mythtv as a stress test whenever I have hardware changes on my server. :) Apr 17 14:04:10 but it nearly does not build in Oe Apr 17 14:29:07 Crofton: your a fedora guy? seen issues with gmp-native? Apr 17 14:29:30 I don't think so Apr 17 14:29:34 how recently? Apr 17 14:29:55 well an OM user with Fedora is having problems, seems fedora gcc does the wrong thing Apr 17 14:30:50 Crofton: it seems whatever version of gcc on fedora will emit wrong result when parsing gmp.h. that makes an inline function not inline so we have multiple definitions of the same function Apr 17 14:30:50 XorA: s/OM user/OM developer/ Apr 17 14:31:21 hmmm Apr 17 14:31:31 which Fedora? Apr 17 14:31:41 johncylee: which fedora? Apr 17 14:31:43 I have been building stuff on 7 and 8 without issues Apr 17 14:32:03 this is building the tool chain? Apr 17 14:32:55 Crofton XorA: I'm looking at the output of gcc -E now Apr 17 14:33:07 ok, I can fire off a new build Apr 17 14:33:33 Crofton: $ gcc --version gcc (GCC) 4.3.0 20080404 (Red Hat 4.3.0-6) Apr 17 14:33:58 johncylee: that sounds worryingly like Redhat rawhide not Fedora Apr 17 14:34:40 yeah Apr 17 14:34:49 * mwester also builds without trouble on Fedora 6, 7, & 8 -- but not with 64-bit Apr 17 14:34:52 Fedora 8 wasnt released on 20080404 AFAIK Apr 17 14:34:58 my F8 box runs 4.1.2 Apr 17 14:35:18 I'm going to build a 9 box when it comes out Apr 17 14:35:20 what about fedora 9 devel? Apr 17 14:35:32 won't install on the new box I have Apr 17 14:35:46 hrw: well the general thing here, is Im starting to see that all the "issues" are caused by using an unstable distro Apr 17 14:36:09 I couldn't get Fedora 9 beta to install either :( Apr 17 14:37:04 using rawhide is like using debian experimental Apr 17 14:37:30 XorA: there is no such thing as debian experimental Apr 17 14:37:47 debian unstable + components from experimental you meant Apr 17 14:38:44 Oh - the individual in question should be advised to not build locales, as fedora doesn't do that -- pro-actively would be good, I sense. Apr 17 14:39:39 good to have advance warning we may have issues building stuff with 4.3 though Apr 17 14:40:13 a long ways to look to find the silver lining, though :D Apr 17 14:41:14 anyone know if this card works with current kernel/modules --> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WiFi-WLAN-802-11b-g-CF-Compact-Flash-Card-Adaptor-PDA_W0QQitemZ300217031004QQihZ020QQcategoryZ58542QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Apr 17 14:42:29 Crofton: turns out the gcc doesn't like extern __inline__ Apr 17 14:42:59 wait Apr 17 14:43:06 I think there is a link to check Apr 17 14:43:34 cedric_: with libertas_cs driver Apr 17 14:43:59 cedric_: no idea how fast anyway - it was long time since I tested this card last time Apr 17 14:44:42 http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.3/changes.html Apr 17 14:44:58 hrw: any issue with the driver, so which card do you recommend? Apr 17 14:45:32 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rc56fffcb... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): xserver-kdrive_1.4.0.90.bb : add the no_kbd patch to this as well Apr 17 14:45:54 cedric_: any prism2 based Apr 17 14:46:12 hrw: thx Apr 17 14:46:28 cedric_: 2nd hand mostly Apr 17 14:46:36 as no one produce them now rather Apr 17 14:48:54 me cat just licked my sff sdr board, it rebooted Apr 17 14:49:39 'DD Apr 17 14:49:47 Crofton: cat or board? Apr 17 14:49:55 board Apr 17 14:50:25 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rf2ab31a4... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Apr 17 14:50:25 sane-srcrevs.inc : update gsmd svn revs, drop libgsmd-devel as it seems Apr 17 14:50:25 to be not maintained and Im not doing it. Apr 17 15:48:54 hi mickeyl. Is it possible for us to talk after GSoC decisions are made about the decisions? Apr 17 15:49:22 crap, nvm, wrong channle Apr 17 15:50:19 good question. i have no idea whether there's a policy for that. i can and will tell you my rating, but will not be able to disclose the others' Apr 17 15:52:52 AFAIK it shouldn't be public. Google wants to announce it on 21st. Waiting and surprises are par for the course. Apr 17 15:55:47 sure, the ratings won't be public even after the 21st. nothing forbids me to disclose my rating though Apr 17 15:56:54 No, not at all. Apr 17 16:19:42 bye Apr 17 16:23:10 gn Apr 17 16:29:40 How do I test building a cross compiler with OE? Apr 17 16:29:45 I have bitbake Apr 17 16:33:31 mickeyl, did you see the video link I posted of the guy talking about openmoko dev at FOSDEM? Apr 17 16:34:31 no. can you repaste please? Apr 17 16:35:21 NOTE: package gmp-native-4.2.1-r2: task do_compile: failed Apr 17 16:35:24 http://fosdem.org/2008/schedule/events/475 Apr 17 16:35:27 how can I fix this? Apr 17 16:35:37 ferret_0567: fedora? Apr 17 16:35:40 I tried to build helloworld-image Apr 17 16:35:42 mickeyl: arch linux Apr 17 16:35:45 gcc 4.3? Apr 17 16:36:03 ferret_0567, gcc -v Apr 17 16:36:13 (%:/home/travis/oe/stuff)- gcc --version Apr 17 16:36:13 gcc (GCC) 4.3.0 Apr 17 16:36:32 mickeyl, I figured you would enjoy someone saying something nice for a cahnge Apr 17 16:36:51 ferret_0567, there seems to be an issue compiling gmp with gcc 4.3 Apr 17 16:36:54 Crofton: lovely, thanks a lot. i'll view that later today Apr 17 16:36:58 Crofton: :( Apr 17 16:37:09 what is gmp? Apr 17 16:37:40 I dunno, I just want it to compile Apr 17 16:37:55 lib for abitrary precision math i think Apr 17 17:06:18 hmm, is there a way to unpack a rootfs image without beeing root? the problem is that the /dev/ entries are not being created Apr 17 17:06:40 i.e.: tar: ./dev/ram3: Cannot mknod: Operation not permitted Apr 17 17:08:34 Jin^eLD: fakeroot, of course then the device nodes will be simple files instead Apr 17 17:08:45 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r7451e48e... 10/ (1 packages/autoconf/autoconf.inc): autoconf: add 2.61 (add missing autoconf.inc) Apr 17 17:09:00 pH5: well that's the problem - then they will not work if I try to use this as NFS rootfs Apr 17 17:09:01 right? Apr 17 17:09:24 Jin^eLD: right.. Apr 17 17:09:47 is there any way to allow ppl without root access to get and unpack a rootfs image? Apr 17 17:09:54 Nope. Apr 17 17:10:05 That would be a HUGE security hole. Apr 17 17:10:54 mhm, ok thx Apr 17 17:56:19 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re86f1b25... 10/ (1 packages/mplayer/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2.bb): mplayer 1.0rc2: fix build for armv7a Apr 17 18:22:21 hi everybody Apr 17 18:28:33 'allo mr. thesing Apr 17 18:30:08 is anything new going on? Like we change SCM to cvs? ;) Apr 17 18:33:19 thesing: we voted to change to VSS Apr 17 18:33:42 I think we couldn't agree, so we have to settle for the lowest-common-denominator, and we're going to use the VMS filenameing conventions: FILENAME.TXT;1 Apr 17 18:34:45 VMS is an ancient ibm os? But what is VSS? Apr 17 18:35:16 RP: anyone o-hand ways worked out why matchbox keyboard doesnt work on kdrive 1.4 yet? Apr 17 18:35:42 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rcaeb17d0... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): tuxbox-tuxtxt-32bpp: fix several off-by-one errors Apr 17 18:35:43 :) VMS was Digital Equipment Corp's OS for the DEC VAX minicomputers; VSS is microsoft's version of SCCS (Visual Source Safe) Apr 17 18:35:46 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r614d56b7... 10/ (1 packages/libdreamdvd packages/libdreamdvd/libdreamdvd.bb): libdreamdvd: add library Apr 17 18:35:49 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf78d2328... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2-skins.bb): enigma2-skins: split individual skins into own packages Apr 17 18:36:14 * XorA|gone used to use VMS at uni Apr 17 18:36:37 XorA|gone: how old are you? Apr 17 18:36:46 thesing: 32 Apr 17 18:37:12 * chouimat|work was lucky enough to no use it Apr 17 18:37:41 VMS had a long run. I used it right out of college Apr 17 18:37:48 VMS was pretty cool Apr 17 18:38:30 It was very good, as far as minicomputer OS's go. I worked for Prime Computer, and worked on PRIMOS -- we studied VMS to keep up on what our competitor was doing. Apr 17 18:39:01 I just remeber writing stuff in that crazy assed scripting language Apr 17 18:39:10 and dealing with mounted drives Apr 17 19:34:32 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9e850960... 10/ (1 packages/mplayer/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2.bb): mplayer 1.0rc2: enable armv6 SIMD for armv6 and armv7a Apr 17 19:39:15 re Apr 17 19:52:07 yipee! 2.6.25 is out... :) Apr 17 19:52:19 I'm mostly interested in the new RT stuff.. Apr 17 20:02:09 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcc8daafd... 10/ (9 files in 6 dirs): mplayer svn: update patches, srcrev and EXTRA_OECONF Apr 17 20:35:30 VoodooZ: is it completely merged now Apr 17 20:40:01 Olimex SAM9-L9260 (AT91SAM9260) vs. TS-7260 (EP9302). application is solar powered PWS / home automation controller Apr 17 20:41:58 sam9 are new processors ... cirrus ep93xx have some years ... Apr 17 20:42:37 which one has wider user base / better support in oe Apr 17 20:53:32 Hey all Apr 17 21:02:28 hi JohnFlux_ Apr 17 21:03:04 I'm playing with OE for the first time today Apr 17 21:03:08 It's really nice :) Apr 17 21:03:19 although quite a few packages don't compile for my gumstix :) Apr 17 21:03:50 I want to try to stream my webcam over the network. any suggestions on what I might be able to use? Apr 17 22:38:00 XorA|gone: ping Apr 17 22:38:32 merge merge Apr 17 22:38:40 is it busybox which provides /etc/profile Apr 17 22:45:52 ah its base-files **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 18 01:21:56 2008 Apr 18 01:28:46 Hi Apr 18 01:41:09 gm Apr 18 01:41:19 up late? Apr 18 01:41:38 Hrw, ping Apr 18 01:42:30 pong Apr 18 01:42:52 Crofton: need to monitor baby a bit Apr 18 01:43:04 :) Apr 18 01:43:05 n810 use now Apr 18 01:43:14 how is she? Apr 18 01:43:21 fine Apr 18 01:43:48 lying on her chest now Apr 18 01:44:04 will nhave to turn to backs soon Apr 18 01:44:25 why the flipping Apr 18 01:45:01 If you lack for advice, I can talk to some parents I know :) Apr 18 01:45:06 babies do not do did therself Apr 18 01:45:33 and there is a risk of lack of air Apr 18 01:45:38 Yesterday I went bicycling with my godaughters Apr 18 01:45:44 they are 5 and 7 Apr 18 01:45:47 well almost 5 Apr 18 01:46:02 and almost 7? Apr 18 01:46:05 :) Apr 18 01:46:07 the youngest is towed by the mother Apr 18 01:46:18 7 'th birthday was in March Apr 18 01:46:26 5'th birthday is in June Apr 18 01:48:44 ok Apr 18 01:50:17 now that I used git a bit, I start to like it. git bisect is especially cool. Apr 18 01:50:54 heh, I haven't really figured it out very well Apr 18 01:51:46 git is nice Apr 18 01:52:05 I use Poky via git-svn only now Apr 18 01:52:10 * Crofton hasn't been able to get his head around it Apr 18 01:52:24 I'm trying to make patches for u-boot and linunx-davinci Apr 18 01:53:15 the rebase stuff is a bit confusing. Apr 18 01:53:49 on start only Apr 18 01:54:03 then it is natural Apr 18 01:54:40 ok when do I have to rebase? (if I only have one branch) Apr 18 01:54:57 when you update master Apr 18 01:55:33 1. update master 2 rebase work branch Apr 18 01:56:12 I had do delete my master branch because it got somehow confused. Apr 18 01:56:18 rebase -i allows to even merge commits into one Apr 18 01:56:35 Hrw: Hey were you able to run xstcal on the image I sent you otherday on qemuarm? Apr 18 01:56:47 thesing: primary rule - do not do changes in master Apr 18 01:57:00 khem: yes Apr 18 01:57:32 khem: with proper TSLIB_TSDEVICE it worked Apr 18 01:58:04 maybe I should set up a new repository. Could I transfer my commits to it? Apr 18 01:58:28 you can have many branches in one repo Apr 18 01:58:50 andc read about git-format-patch/git-am Apr 18 01:59:12 first extract ppatches, second applies them Apr 18 01:59:29 I know about this. But now I have no master branch. And I don't know if this is a problem. Apr 18 01:59:52 should not be Apr 18 02:00:17 hopefully. Apr 18 02:00:29 pull linux-2.6 into repo and rebase against it Apr 18 02:00:58 use git-remote even to make it probablyh easier to update Apr 18 02:02:03 i hope that it does noot sounds like I would be git mastah Apr 18 02:02:07 :) Apr 18 02:02:18 last time I pulled from linux-2.6 I got changes that were not in the arm-git and when I created a branch they all went into the branch too. Apr 18 02:02:28 Hrw: does not work for me even when I have the TSLIB_TSDEVICE set Apr 18 02:02:37 Now I'm carefull not to pull from different trees. Apr 18 02:02:42 arm-git is a pita not repo Apr 18 02:02:49 iirc Apr 18 02:03:51 khem: remote login, set, DISPLAY=:0 xtscal Apr 18 02:04:04 set vars I mean Apr 18 02:04:16 Hrw ok Apr 18 02:07:14 ok, time to turn Mira and back to sleep rather Apr 18 02:08:19 was good to chat Apr 18 02:08:55 good night. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 18 02:59:56 2008