**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 18 02:59:56 2008 Apr 18 04:04:05 * * OE Bug 4181 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by xjqian(AT)gmail.com Apr 18 04:04:07 * * PATCH building xserver-kdrive-1.4.0.90 without XKB defined Apr 18 04:04:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4181 Apr 18 04:34:06 * * OE Bug 4168 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by xjqian(AT)gmail.com Apr 18 04:34:08 * * Value of Pi Defined Wrong in SlCalc Apr 18 04:34:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4168 Apr 18 04:35:22 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * rfce17938... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): slcalc: add icon with correct pi value (close oebug 4168) courtesy of Jeffery MacEachern Apr 18 06:01:03 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * rba8ebc14... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Apr 18 06:01:03 spandsp: cleanup recipes, unify Apr 18 06:01:03 * use DEFAULT_PREFERENCE instead of awkward recipes names Apr 18 06:01:03 * drop unbuidable 0.0.3pre27 Apr 18 06:04:07 * * OE Bug 4111 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by xjqian(AT)gmail.com Apr 18 06:04:09 * * SpanDSP VOIP recipe update for v0.0.4pre16 Apr 18 06:04:11 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4111 Apr 18 07:07:06 * * OE Bug 1159 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by xjqian(AT)gmail.com Apr 18 07:07:08 * * speex does not package headers or install m4 file Apr 18 07:07:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159 Apr 18 07:11:40 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r3f13f380... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Apr 18 07:11:40 speex_1.2: bump beta1 to beta3 Apr 18 07:11:40 * upstream Fixed-point improvements Apr 18 07:11:40 * build without any floating point support with --disable-float-api and --disable-vbr Apr 18 07:27:50 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r54570a87... 10/ (1 packages/speex/speex_1.2-beta3.bb): speex_1.2-beta3: enable blackfin optimization Apr 18 07:31:35 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r6058c179... 10/ (1 packages/dtc/dtc-native_1.0.0.bb): dtc-native_1.0.0.bb: fix SRC_URI and S definitions, they have changed Apr 18 08:00:58 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r89dfd515... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): dtc-native_1.1.0.bb: update dtc to 1.1.0, it's needed for linux > 2.6.24 Apr 18 08:12:02 bonjourhello Apr 18 08:12:07 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * rcb0a9b0e... 10/ (1 packages/dtc/dtc_1.1.0.bb): dtc_1.1.0.bb: keep dtc in sync with dtc-native, update to version 1.1.0 Apr 18 08:20:17 git is happiness Apr 18 08:31:36 morning Apr 18 08:34:03 hi hrw Apr 18 08:55:47 comment c'est trop bien git Apr 18 08:56:06 oops sorry wrong channel Apr 18 08:56:40 *g* Apr 18 08:57:05 Genesis: ależ nic się nie stało Apr 18 08:57:17 ;) Apr 18 09:17:15 hi all Apr 18 09:17:22 any collie hacker here? Apr 18 09:30:47 huhu Apr 18 09:43:36 is there any active collie hacker? or do someone know if there is available one? Apr 18 09:44:10 law_: you need thesing (Thomas Kunze) Apr 18 09:44:38 hrw, ok thanks Apr 18 09:46:10 ~seen thesing Apr 18 09:46:17 thesing was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 7h 37m 22s ago, saying: 'good night.'. Apr 18 09:58:23 hi everyone Apr 18 09:58:35 hi everyone Apr 18 09:59:57 here i am back with some problems again ;) Apr 18 10:01:03 bitbake can't figure out the target openmoko-devel-image Apr 18 10:01:05 http://pastebin.com/d7da53b57 Apr 18 10:01:23 any clues Apr 18 10:03:36 ERROR: opening $OMDIR/openembedded/packages/*/*.bb: file not found Apr 18 10:03:43 that should be a big clue shaz Apr 18 10:04:10 is your env setup properly? Apr 18 10:04:48 did you source setup-env ? Apr 18 10:04:54 . ../setup-env Apr 18 10:07:39 law_: What is your question? Apr 18 10:08:30 hmm Apr 18 10:08:46 let me see Apr 18 10:10:19 Is there a step by step guide/walkthrough which i can follow or learn to get this stuff working because the wiki is driving me crazy Apr 18 10:10:35 are you using the mokomakefile ? Apr 18 10:10:40 I want to get both OE and OpenMoko getting to work Apr 18 10:11:09 no going manually following the from scratch page of the wiki at openmoko site Apr 18 10:11:44 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokomakefile Apr 18 10:11:55 you're better off using htat to get started Apr 18 10:11:59 ^^ Apr 18 10:12:07 shaz: why not first try mokomakefile. it is there to help you Apr 18 10:12:35 seriously shaz, use that... Apr 18 10:12:48 Is'nt there a tutorial of some sort because want to understand the whole thing Apr 18 10:13:25 it is like you go into a car shop and ask for parts of the car without first trying if it runs Apr 18 10:13:44 lolz Apr 18 10:14:39 ok I'll do so but can I do it manually what mokomakefile does automatically Apr 18 10:14:41 yes, and since you couldn't see the obvious issue with your setup... you'll actually get to understand more by using the mokomakefile Apr 18 10:15:00 using the mokomakefile wont prevent you from using standard oe commands Apr 18 10:15:11 like? Apr 18 10:15:24 the whole mtn stuff and bitbake :p Apr 18 10:15:33 :) Apr 18 10:15:37 ~fish shaz Apr 18 10:15:38 * ibot slaps shaz around with a large trout Apr 18 10:16:30 sure do slap but remember I don't forget ;) Apr 18 10:17:07 thanx Apr 18 10:17:40 see you later because I have a strong feeling that makefile will bring me to you guys again Apr 18 10:18:26 :p feelings , don't talk to me about feelings, I get emotional Apr 18 10:19:05 ? Apr 18 10:19:30 Is'nt that a good thing Apr 18 10:19:51 not for a robot Apr 18 10:32:59 hey r u a robot? I always wanted to be friends with robots. Can we be friends Apr 18 11:01:43 The following is from openmoko wiki page about mokomakefile: NOTE: If using MokoMakefile with OM2007.2 then references to $OMDIR/openmoko should be replaced with $OMDIR/openembedded. Should i make the changes to the makefile now or is it for later development or whatever Apr 18 11:02:57 dont edit the makefile at all Apr 18 11:02:58 RAM requirement is 512 and mine is 256 so should I ignore it or what? Apr 18 11:03:02 ok Apr 18 11:03:20 ok Apr 18 11:03:24 your going to enter a swap storm compiling some stuff :-) Apr 18 11:03:55 but I'll get through the storm or not Apr 18 11:04:04 yeah you should Apr 18 11:04:09 gr8 Apr 18 11:10:00 Wrong value of pi? Someone set it to 22/7 for simplification? Apr 18 11:42:10 Crofton: isn't that what it is Apr 18 11:43:22 Anyone had a chance to compare how different the gumstix-oe is from the other oe platforms? Apr 18 11:43:46 basically, it is a copy of .dev from last fall Apr 18 11:44:18 Have they been merging changes, or is it essentially a fork now? Apr 18 11:44:18 sakoman, looks at moving to .stable, but he is a busy man ... Apr 18 11:44:49 not really a fork Apr 18 11:45:19 Glad to hear it =) Apr 18 11:45:24 I try to bring the kernel and machine stuff over so you have a chance of buildiing .dev Apr 18 11:45:45 How applicable is the OE documentation to the gumstix environment? Apr 18 11:45:59 gumstix has dramaticllay increased OE user base, with out overloading us with support questions Apr 18 11:46:07 99% good Apr 18 11:46:17 That's cool =) Apr 18 11:46:32 I was wondering how the OE community has taken the addition =) Apr 18 11:46:39 he has an older bitbake, but I think currnet will work Apr 18 11:47:00 as long as the basic questions get asked on gumstix lists we are happy Apr 18 11:47:18 ya, the gumstix list seems really responsive. I just wish the IRC channel was. Apr 18 11:47:28 it's hard for most people here to answer gumstix specific questions becuase of the difference in metadata Apr 18 11:47:58 sakoman, can be very helpful, but I think he is busy this week Apr 18 11:49:27 I've seen some good discussion there, but like it says in the topic: it's high latency. Apr 18 11:49:34 :) Apr 18 11:49:38 irc is like that Apr 18 11:49:52 Heh, moreso than most IRC =) Apr 18 11:52:48 LakeSolon: read also Poky handbook - it has some sections which OE doc lack Apr 18 11:53:40 Ah interesting, ty Apr 18 12:07:44 Can one of the python cracks around here please help me how to import gtk without having X running? http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1931769&group_id=108118&atid=649652 Apr 18 12:10:46 Laibsch: Oe has patch for it iirc Apr 18 12:10:52 broken one ;( Apr 18 12:12:22 hi rschuster Apr 18 12:12:44 hi hrw Apr 18 12:13:08 hrw: OE has a patch for gourmet? Apr 18 12:13:15 The package is not even in OE, yet Apr 18 12:13:26 or what patch are you referring to? Apr 18 12:13:28 Laibsch: for pygtk Apr 18 12:13:33 OK, I see Apr 18 12:13:39 * Laibsch takes a look Apr 18 12:14:19 That should be a prime suspect to push upstream Apr 18 12:15:11 hrw: I suppose it is packages/python/python-pygtk/prevent_to_get_display_during_import.patch ? Apr 18 12:15:15 yes Apr 18 12:15:18 That patch is broken? Apr 18 12:15:21 How? Apr 18 12:15:29 Otherwise, I'll push it upstream Apr 18 12:15:34 change + init() -> + _init() Apr 18 12:15:39 And have ubuntu include it Apr 18 12:15:49 hrw: in OE as well? Apr 18 12:16:06 w8 a moment Apr 18 12:18:16 http://pastebin.com/d788cc31 Apr 18 12:20:32 OK Apr 18 12:20:39 hrw: Do you want to push it? Apr 18 12:20:50 Or I can --author Apr 18 12:23:35 I will push Apr 18 12:23:48 cool, thanks Apr 18 12:26:06 argh.. Apr 18 12:26:09 I hate monotone Apr 18 12:29:12 pushed Apr 18 12:30:14 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r28305491... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): python-pygtk: unbreak prevent_to_get_display_during_import.patch (from Poky) Apr 18 12:34:10 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * rd8895e78... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): linux_2.6.25.bb: add linux 2.6.25 with mpc8313e-rdb patches Apr 18 12:34:57 hrw: why is the patch not listed in http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages/python/python-pygtk Apr 18 12:35:04 Do you have an idea? Apr 18 12:35:09 no **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 18 12:37:07 2008 Apr 18 12:37:18 http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/python/python-pygtk_2.10.4.bb does not list the patch, either Apr 18 12:42:07 invalid characters in value of key "Terminal", boolean values must be "false" or "true" (found "false" Apr 18 12:42:13 that's just stupid Apr 18 12:44:36 rschuster: cacao fails to compile in openmoko for me, should I post a bug at cacaojvm.org, oe or om? :) Apr 18 12:45:39 Hi all! Apr 18 12:45:42 CM: in OM at first. we have to find out whether it is build system related. there may be changes between those Apr 18 12:45:46 I created a simple package for a program Apr 18 12:45:53 how do I upload it to open embedded? Apr 18 12:46:02 rschuster: ok, thanks Apr 18 12:46:21 CM: please add me to the observers: thebohemian@gmx.net Apr 18 12:53:17 rschuster: Added you to the bug Apr 18 12:53:41 CM: thanks Apr 18 12:53:45 hi all Apr 18 12:53:55 ~seen xrg_ Apr 18 12:53:56 xrg_ was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk-dev, 2d 16h 52m 32s ago, saying: '2nd thought: have a realtime db table, and some sort of 'trigger' function that will cause re-read of the table..'. Apr 18 12:57:16 I'm making a .bb file, and I have FILES_${PN} = "${bindir}/spook" Apr 18 12:57:30 I want to also install /etc/spook.conf - how do I do this? Apr 18 12:57:38 I'm guessing {etcdir} or something? Apr 18 13:02:14 sysconfdir Apr 18 13:02:24 JohnFlux: or not edit FILES and check Apr 18 13:03:24 hrw: yeah it seems I want: CONFFILES_${PN} = "${sysconfdir}/spook.conf.dist" Apr 18 13:03:41 hrw: can I rename this file? it's actually called spook.conf.dist in the source Apr 18 13:03:49 hrw: but needs to be renamed to spook.conf Apr 18 13:06:13 do_install_append() { install -d ${D}${sysconfdir} \n install -m 0644 ${S}/spook.conf.dist ${D}${sysconfdir}/spook.conf } Apr 18 13:08:11 hrw: awesome :) is that a literal \n ? Apr 18 13:08:18 newline Apr 18 13:11:08 hrw: awesome! It worked :) Apr 18 13:12:21 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r4d300b0f... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Apr 18 13:12:21 xserver-common_1.22.bb : make kdrive 1.4 work with tslib and onscreen Apr 18 13:12:21 keyboards. Apr 18 13:12:23 hrw: my next commit will be of interest to poky guys I would assume Apr 18 13:12:29 hrw: well that commit :-) Apr 18 13:14:47 CM: I added a workaround for your issue to the PR Apr 18 13:23:09 hmm.. worth a look Apr 18 13:24:43 XorA: what was a trick? Apr 18 13:25:54 hrw: kdrive 1.4 doesnt have a default keymap so need to load one Apr 18 13:26:08 hrw: and the well know need for -mouse tslib Apr 18 13:26:28 tried same with 1.4.0.90? Apr 18 13:26:37 hrw: this was with 1.4.0.90 Apr 18 13:26:53 cool^2 Apr 18 13:31:44 hi Apr 18 13:33:31 will try 1.4.99.901 Apr 18 13:43:30 is monotone.openembedded.org not the most stable these days? Apr 18 13:43:39 I have frequent trouble with "mtn pull" Apr 18 13:44:03 hi laibsch Apr 18 13:44:14 seems so Apr 18 13:44:21 try wolfson Apr 18 13:44:23 hey woglinde Apr 18 13:44:25 OK Apr 18 13:45:13 What machine is that? Apr 18 13:45:18 mickeyl's new machine? Apr 18 13:45:21 ltg? Apr 18 13:45:24 something else? Apr 18 13:45:43 mtn is now on mickeys machine Apr 18 13:46:53 could some update the wiki Apr 18 13:46:55 might be the DNS tunnel Apr 18 13:46:58 and as openembedded.org is still kergoth owned we do not have proper IP set Apr 18 13:46:59 try using the direct host Apr 18 13:47:06 mtn pull --set-default amethyst.openembedded.net Apr 18 13:47:16 s/DNS/SSH/ Apr 18 13:47:31 need ev going so we can transfer oe.org ... Apr 18 13:47:33 mickeyl: any info when git/mercurial server on amethyst? Apr 18 13:47:56 mickeyl: set monotone.openembedded.net :-) Apr 18 13:48:05 XorA: hmm... good idea Apr 18 13:48:12 I am trying to avoid monotone as much as I can Apr 18 13:48:22 * XorA notes from the whois mickeyl's ownership :-) Apr 18 13:48:25 mickeyl: kick kergoth to get monotone.openembedded.org Apr 18 13:48:44 it does not look good when some sites are .org and some are .net Apr 18 13:48:47 hrw: my schedule: a) e.V. installed. b) zone moves c) mtn -> git Apr 18 13:49:04 * hrw goes to buy openembedded.info to create porn site Apr 18 13:49:21 mickeyl: a) June/July, b) september, c) 2009 Apr 18 13:49:35 a) May/June b) July c) August Apr 18 13:49:44 optimist Apr 18 13:49:45 fwiw: oe.info is already taken. you can buy openembedded.mobi :) Apr 18 13:50:14 mickeyl: you will also say that gta02 will reach market this year? Apr 18 13:50:26 yes, within 6 weeks Apr 18 13:50:30 users market not devs/geeks Apr 18 13:50:32 mtn is a major obstacle to more wide spread adoption of OE. Apr 18 13:50:35 users Apr 18 13:50:36 well Apr 18 13:50:46 gta02 is not a competitive end-user device Apr 18 13:50:50 it's a _great_ open device Apr 18 13:50:56 but nothing more and nothing less Apr 18 13:50:59 nor gta03/04/08 Apr 18 13:51:03 wait wait Apr 18 13:51:10 gta04 is a completely different story Apr 18 13:51:15 hrrm... why does my .bb create the dir I want in the image dir, but not in the install / Apr 18 13:51:15 gta04 is actually developed from scratch Apr 18 13:51:16 ? Apr 18 13:51:23 gta04? Apr 18 13:51:33 ScaredyCat: you did not heard? Apr 18 13:51:48 arm7, 16MB ram, 2MB flash and NMT modem Apr 18 13:51:56 16mb ram will rock Apr 18 13:52:00 and 2x16 lcd mosaic screen Apr 18 13:52:07 forces us to do more optimized software Apr 18 13:52:14 laforge will come back and implement everything in arm asm Apr 18 13:52:19 * ScaredyCat ties hrw to a large rock Apr 18 13:52:19 * mwester thinks that's a cool device! Apr 18 13:52:30 ScaredyCat: I lost faith in openmoko Apr 18 13:52:49 mickeyl: assembler! What luxury! Apr 18 13:52:51 * mwester wonders if it will run android. Apr 18 13:52:55 pffft - You're lucky, I've lost faith in mankind Apr 18 13:52:59 broonie: ;) Apr 18 13:53:21 mwester: as long as openmoko will use s3c24xx it will not Apr 18 13:53:25 * mickeyl believes in moko underground and goes back to work Apr 18 13:53:49 * mwester wonders where the openmoko devs have gone, and if it would be off-topic to ask openmoko questions on this channel Apr 18 13:53:56 * hrw waits for Andy Green's embedded fedora on gta02 Apr 18 13:54:18 on additional 2GB microsd card to make it fit Apr 18 13:54:24 mwester: we are around Apr 18 13:54:27 anyway... Apr 18 13:54:40 am I being a total tard... Apr 18 13:55:17 am I supposed to do somehting outher than the install -d ${D}${datadir}/mydir and copy the file(s) into it? Apr 18 13:55:30 other Apr 18 13:55:37 not copy but install Apr 18 13:55:39 hrw: hahaha :D Apr 18 13:55:41 yeah Apr 18 13:55:49 XorA: I've just noticed that all have left the other channel, and perhaps for good reason, as the signal to noise ratio has pretty much reached zero there :( Apr 18 13:55:55 hrw, yes I do install them Apr 18 13:56:03 (rather than copy) Apr 18 13:56:51 mwester: I left the angstrom channel as well, I was too busy with qtopia crap Apr 18 13:57:00 mickeyl: that thread made me leave om-dev channel as it was not sure why I am still there Apr 18 13:57:20 the dir doesn;t get created and non of the files are in it (obvious that bit ;) ) Apr 18 13:57:27 So, the question I have ATM is how does one determine what should be done in-kernel at resume time, and how much should e done by user-space? Specifically, the audio issues? Apr 18 13:57:35 on install.. Apr 18 13:57:41 * ScaredyCat whitters on to self Apr 18 13:58:00 mwester: audio is odd, the kernel should restore the state exactly as was when it suspended Apr 18 13:58:22 mwester: I did see your bug, havent had time to look into it yet Apr 18 13:58:32 Ok, so the microphone not working problem should be considered to be a kernel issue. I'll look at it there, then. :) Apr 18 13:58:41 mwester: yes Apr 18 14:00:07 mwester: I would take a wild guess that mic bias isnt turned on after resume if everything else is working Apr 18 14:00:24 hrw: fear not. it's just heat. nothing will change soon. Apr 18 14:00:45 hrw: the day Om switches to another build system will be the day a couple of us leave. Apr 18 14:00:51 not a big deal Apr 18 14:00:55 but hopefully something we can avoid ;) Apr 18 14:01:06 Leavings reminds me Apr 18 14:01:13 heh Apr 18 14:01:35 stefan_schmidt: [everybody] leaving openmoko? Apr 18 14:01:46 that was fun. i also misread it ;) Apr 18 14:01:52 hrw: yeah, but now in blog form for the public Apr 18 14:01:58 stefan_schmidt: finished? Apr 18 14:02:06 mickeyl: Not yet Apr 18 14:02:12 k Apr 18 14:02:14 mickeyl: I know that build system will not change. I just lost faith that gta02 will ever get working software Apr 18 14:02:20 I started yesterday, but was distracted from a pub Apr 18 14:02:36 mickeyl: you have om2007.2, e17, qtopia, some python stuff - all mixed up Apr 18 14:02:38 hrw: ah. i'm not at this stage. on the contrary, i have regained faith in what we are doing Apr 18 14:02:51 I wonder will there be any flash left Apr 18 14:03:17 device which came with gtk/qt/e17, lot of python just to make calls... Apr 18 14:03:20 hrw: Only need if everything would be installed at the same time... Apr 18 14:03:29 and gsm modem from 2000 ;( Apr 18 14:03:39 yeah, that sucks ass Apr 18 14:03:51 I wonder where fic found them - basement? Apr 18 14:03:53 mickeyl : hi ! have you by any chance done (or know anyone who has) any work with OMA-DM ? Apr 18 14:04:36 hrw: Not a bad guess. ;) Apr 18 14:05:11 Ah, life is so nice if you are jobless. :) Apr 18 14:05:16 Xora: can you bump the PR of xserver-common please? Apr 18 14:05:18 stefan_schmidt: gta03 will get modem from nokia 3310 Apr 18 14:05:25 * stefan_schmidt heads to do his laundry Apr 18 14:05:38 steliosk: neither, sorry. carriers think this is a big thing, but i know noone in linuxland who ever shared a thought about that Apr 18 14:05:39 stefan_schmidt: openmoko phone with hsdpa will see market when no one will remember what it is Apr 18 14:05:51 * chouimat|work wonders how much the gta02 will cost Apr 18 14:06:41 hrw: Don't tell me. I don't work there anymore. But you can be sure that people raised their opinions. It's just the question if they get heard Apr 18 14:07:00 chouimat|work: 399$ was the price marketing gave out some time ago Apr 18 14:07:09 not bad Apr 18 14:07:35 498$ for s3c2442 based devboard with screen is nice price Apr 18 14:07:39 cedric_: done Apr 18 14:07:45 mickeyl : got a request from a client about, though that openmoko might also benefit from the work Apr 18 14:07:47 498 = 399(gta02) + 99(debugboard) Apr 18 14:07:54 XorA: thx Apr 18 14:08:08 I wonder how many gta02 will end as developer boards Apr 18 14:08:21 * chouimat|work hopes to be able to get one ... got the money too late for the gta01 Apr 18 14:08:36 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rc48f66ff... 10/ (1 packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.22.bb): xserver-common_1.22.bb : remember to bump PR thanks cedric Apr 18 14:08:38 hrw: With the nor the board is not really needed. Apr 18 14:08:40 hrw : with the $ to euro ratio is even better ;) Apr 18 14:08:49 hrw: Good question. :) Apr 18 14:08:59 stefan_schmidt: is needed Apr 18 14:09:08 stefan_schmidt: you will not get serial port without it Apr 18 14:09:32 hrw: So you like to do kernel hacking on it? Apr 18 14:09:47 stefan_schmidt: who said that I will buy gta02? Apr 18 14:10:02 hrw: But you state that the debug board is needed. :) Apr 18 14:10:31 stefan_schmidt: I have gta01 (bv3/bv4) and debugboard already. and from my experience serial port is a must for devboard Apr 18 14:10:37 hrw: serial port is available from simple solder on pcb Apr 18 14:10:44 XorA: nice Apr 18 14:11:02 hrw: all the little pads around the debug connector carry the signals :-) Apr 18 14:11:24 nice Apr 18 14:11:38 hrw: ACK for a dev board. Still there was hope people buy it for something else. I heard rumors about phone calls. ;) Apr 18 14:11:52 stefan_schmidt: rumours Apr 18 14:11:53 ;D Apr 18 14:12:18 stefan_schmidt: I might interested to get one to replace my gp :) Apr 18 14:12:25 I hope that operator will soon have some windowsmobile based phone for me Apr 18 14:12:32 chouimat|work: gp? Apr 18 14:12:37 greenphone Apr 18 14:12:41 ah Apr 18 14:12:41 * XorA hides his windows mobile phone Apr 18 14:15:50 ~lart you all Apr 18 14:15:50 * ibot follow's you all with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION Apr 18 14:18:26 hm Apr 18 14:26:39 XorA: thx you just make my device usable... :-) Apr 18 14:27:05 cedric_: its something that has bugged me for a long time, and took me a while to work out what was going on Apr 18 14:36:07 * * OE Bug 4182 has been created by cliff.brake(AT)gmail.com Apr 18 14:36:09 * * font builds are looking for host xfonts-utils Apr 18 14:36:11 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4182 Apr 18 14:36:23 XorA: after calibration; in the gpe login screen, I'm getting a mouse pointer which can move only vertically Apr 18 14:36:48 cedric: you device has a rotated Xfbdev? Apr 18 14:36:55 XorA: and after login, the touchscreen doesn't do anything... Apr 18 14:37:51 XorA: no the xserver is oriented correctly Apr 18 14:38:06 cedric: no 640x480@270 or the like? Apr 18 14:39:08 XorA: Xfbdev -br -pn -mouse tslib -dpi 100 -rgba vrgb -screen 320x240@270 :0 -noreset Apr 18 14:39:37 cedric_: then it is rotated, kdrive is broken for that, see bugzilla there is a bug with a hack patch to fix it Apr 18 14:42:02 XorA: have you got a URL for the patch pls? Apr 18 14:42:16 cedric_: look for the bug Apr 18 14:42:25 I cant remeber the number offhand Apr 18 14:48:00 XorA: this one? --> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13251 Apr 18 14:48:24 what version of bitbake do we use with the OE stable branch? Apr 18 14:48:41 cedric_: OE bugzilla :-) Apr 18 14:49:43 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3741 Apr 18 14:50:07 just got a ton of parsing errors on the stable branch: http://pastebin.com/m1ee03744 Apr 18 14:50:13 hmm Apr 18 14:51:55 cbrake: changed from dev to stable? Apr 18 14:52:05 zarath: yes Apr 18 14:52:19 cbrake BBPATH adjusted? Apr 18 14:52:29 zarath: I think so Apr 18 14:52:57 /build/bhthermal/bht_build/oe/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/efl1/ecore_cvs.bb <- still org.openembedded.dev/ in search pathes Apr 18 14:53:37 zarath: hmm, good point Apr 18 14:55:24 i have missed some enviroment changes and errors were similar... Apr 18 14:55:56 zarath: yeah, my site.conf is messed up Apr 18 14:56:26 zarath: do you build the 2007.1 or 2008.1 angstrom distro with the stable branch? I noticed both are present Apr 18 14:57:09 an own distribution set ... Apr 18 15:09:26 Hey all Apr 18 15:09:31 I made a package Apr 18 15:09:49 how do I upload this to open embedded? Apr 18 15:10:08 JohnFlux: attach your bb file to the bug tracker Apr 18 15:10:13 and block Apr 18 15:10:16 !oebug 2248 Apr 18 15:10:18 * * Bug 2248, Status: RESOLVED (DUPLICATE), Created: 2007-05-06 10:59 Apr 18 15:10:19 * * folkertvanderbeek(AT)gmail.com: suspend/resume crashes gpe on poodle Apr 18 15:10:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2248 Apr 18 15:10:26 Sorry, wrong number Apr 18 15:10:55 !oebug 2228 Apr 18 15:10:56 * * Bug 2228, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-03 15:22 Apr 18 15:10:57 * * : Meta-Bug: new or updated bb recipes Apr 18 15:10:58 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2228 Apr 18 15:11:04 yes, that is the one Apr 18 15:11:10 make it block 2228 Apr 18 15:12:46 * mwester didn't know about 2228 - one learns something new everyday. Apr 18 15:13:49 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rd21d59c6... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): linux-openmoko* : add git kernel and update Openmoko branding to new spelling Apr 18 15:14:13 Laibsch: so I create a bug report against Openembedded ? Apr 18 15:14:23 yes Apr 18 15:14:32 don't worry too much about making a mistake Apr 18 15:14:38 everything is correctable Apr 18 15:15:20 XorA: without rotation is fine, I'll try this ugly patch... Apr 18 15:17:14 Laibsch: okay done :) Apr 18 15:18:22 thanks Apr 18 15:19:43 JohnFlux: you forgot to attach the file ;-) Apr 18 15:20:36 XorA: are you a gpe dev? Apr 18 15:21:07 * * OE Bug 4183 has been created by johnflux(AT)gmail.com Apr 18 15:21:09 * * Build file for Spook - a webcam monitoring program Apr 18 15:21:11 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4183 Apr 18 15:22:11 Laibsch: okay I attached a file this time :-D Apr 18 15:23:03 cedric_: no Apr 18 15:23:53 JohnFlux: The source code looks pretty dead Apr 18 15:23:57 no alternative? Apr 18 15:24:27 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r2aa738d5... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): python-pygtk: push prevent_to_get_display_during_import.patch upstream Apr 18 15:25:01 Laibsch: well I'm working my way through lots of different programs Apr 18 15:25:11 Laibsch: so far I can't find anything that will work :-D Apr 18 15:25:35 Laibsch: I want to stream my webcam to another machine, in any way possible Apr 18 15:25:51 XorA: Don't you do webcam work as well? Apr 18 15:26:04 Or was it CoreDump? Apr 18 15:26:18 Laibsch: coredump Apr 18 15:26:26 JohnFlux: There are some webcam programs in OE Apr 18 15:26:31 Have you looked at them? Apr 18 15:26:35 XorA: thanks Apr 18 15:26:44 hi Apr 18 15:26:49 and yes I think coredump did do some kinda security cam .bb file Apr 18 15:27:13 Laibsch: I've looked at what I could find - I haven't managed to get anything to work yet Apr 18 15:27:32 Laibsch: it's a v4l2 device which some of the other programs don't support Apr 18 15:28:31 JohnFlux: Try "rgrep -i webcam packages/" Apr 18 15:28:36 So far I have found Apr 18 15:28:39 came Apr 18 15:28:47 is it right that i have two different machine-distro directories under my tmpdir when building an atngw100 image? atngw100-angstrom-linux-uclibc and avr32-angstrom-linux-uclibc Apr 18 15:29:04 JohnFlux: I am sure there are other programs Apr 18 15:29:19 browse them to see if nothing fits Apr 18 15:29:34 using latest HEAD and and angstrom 2008 distribution Apr 18 15:30:10 CoreDump: ping? :) Apr 18 15:36:15 JohnFlux: CoreDump is most likely at work now Apr 18 15:36:25 There are quite a number of other packages in OE Apr 18 15:36:37 XorA: thx a lot the patch works! Apr 18 15:36:52 JohnFlux: tried webcamserver? Apr 18 15:37:11 Laibsch: yeah, it says "can't get rgb24 data" Apr 18 15:37:26 Laibsch: google shows lots of similar problems, but no answer Apr 18 15:38:56 JohnFlux: Maybe the webcamserver.sf.net guys can fix that Apr 18 15:39:02 if they are still active Apr 18 15:40:21 Laibsch: I think the webcam driver does things differently to most other webcam drivers Apr 18 15:40:39 is there a way to just dump the raw stream from video0 to a network socket Apr 18 15:40:45 and decode it on my main machine.. Apr 18 15:40:55 would that work? :-D Apr 18 15:41:53 JohnFlux: gstreamer? Apr 18 15:42:05 JohnFlux: You might like to ping VoodooZ ; he's been working with webcam stuff for a robot. Don't konw if that would be any help, but perhaps... Apr 18 15:42:41 hrw: I didn't get much luck there either Apr 18 15:42:53 mwester: thanks Apr 18 15:43:00 I might just buy a new webcam :-D Apr 18 15:48:55 hrw: packages/wlags-modules/ fails to fetch due to some strange reordering of agere.com Apr 18 15:49:09 I found some copies of the sources on the net Apr 18 15:49:20 (hh.org is hosting them for example) Apr 18 15:49:34 remove the package or adapt the SRC_URI? Apr 18 15:58:28 JohnFlux: I recently bought a Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000 and it looks real good. Apr 18 15:58:55 VoodooZ: btw, does it work okay on USB1.1 ? Apr 18 15:58:58 VoodooZ: do you know? Apr 18 15:59:06 And the big plus is that it uses the linux-uvc drivers. Apr 18 15:59:19 should but will be very limited in terms of speed and rez.. Apr 18 15:59:33 I run mine at usb2 to get max frame rate.. Apr 18 15:59:52 Not that the slug is fast enough to process the frame at 30fps though.. Apr 18 16:00:38 VoodooZ: what are you doing with it btw? Apr 18 16:00:43 I do basic color blob analysis on a 320x240 image so i can do around 15fps right now. Apr 18 16:00:53 VoodooZ: ah Apr 18 16:01:06 VoodooZ: I was thinking of buying one of those stretch processors Apr 18 16:01:19 so the robot's planning module can track/follow/avoid certain colors.. etc.. Apr 18 16:01:25 stretch? Apr 18 16:01:40 VoodooZ: they can encode H264 at 1.2 megapixel at 25 fps Apr 18 16:01:49 VoodooZ: so they say Apr 18 16:02:01 VoodooZ: 300mhz chip Apr 18 16:02:13 VoodooZ: but mixes FPGA or something fancy Apr 18 16:02:14 nice. But not useful for robotics as I need to do some frame-by-frame processing.. Apr 18 16:02:32 Laibsch: sorry, since when wlags modules are mine? Apr 18 16:02:40 Laibsch: adopt Apr 18 16:02:48 VoodooZ: right - I was thinking of trying to do frame processing on it Apr 18 16:02:59 it depends what you want to do of course. Apr 18 16:03:49 VoodooZ: yeah Apr 18 16:03:55 but for the slug you have to really optimize the processing pipeline to the bare minimum not to kill the overall frame rate .. Apr 18 16:04:24 VoodooZ: yeah Apr 18 16:04:27 And becasue my robot's AI and motor control loops are all running on the same slug I don't have much cycles to spare. Apr 18 16:04:52 If power is not an issue you could use 2 slugs though. :) Apr 18 16:08:06 * * OE Bug 4158 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Apr 18 16:08:08 * * cs do_fetch fails Apr 18 16:08:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4158 Apr 18 16:10:01 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r8e2294c4... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): wlags-modules: point SRC_URI to elmeg.de instead of agere.com which has reorganized their website unfavourably. Closes 4158. Apr 18 16:24:05 . , Apr 18 16:24:05 # Apr 18 16:24:06 t Apr 18 16:30:09 http://rafb.net/p/WBSNU053.html breaks with Apr 18 16:30:11 | Error: PyGTK-2.3.93 or newer is required. Apr 18 16:30:25 Do I need a python-pygtk-native package? Apr 18 16:30:42 * Laibsch is always confused by this Apr 18 16:32:42 mickey|away: ? Apr 18 16:32:55 VoodooZ ? Apr 18 16:37:27 can someone explain why we https is needed for an svn co Apr 18 16:49:31 bye Apr 18 16:52:20 hi everybody Apr 18 16:53:51 hi thesing Apr 18 17:47:06 re Apr 18 17:51:59 is anything going on in terms of scm changing? I remember sth. like "end of march" from ml. Apr 18 18:42:28 thesing: good to see you Apr 18 18:42:35 Can you build collie images? Apr 18 18:42:42 do_rootfs fails again for me Apr 18 18:49:03 I think I can. But I didn't try for some time now. I will pull and try. Apr 18 18:49:21 Is console-image ok? Apr 18 19:12:59 Laibsch: I have no problem building console-image Apr 18 19:17:20 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rd80795e4... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Apr 18 19:17:20 linux-openmoko_2.6.24+git.bb : add recipe for newer updated git Apr 18 19:17:20 sane-srcrevs.inc : update SRCREV for above and opkg Apr 18 19:21:55 thesing: no, console-image bombs out Apr 18 19:22:06 It used to work about 10 days ago, I think Apr 18 19:23:01 I'll try a clean rebuild Apr 18 19:38:14 Laibsch: what is the error message? Apr 18 19:47:55 re Apr 18 20:12:27 hi flo Apr 18 23:00:53 bye Apr 19 00:56:52 someone fixed x11-kdrive 1.4 its working for me now !!!! Apr 19 00:57:03 I owe someone a beer Apr 19 00:59:52 xserver-common-1.22 gpe login is still not working **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 19 02:59:57 2008