**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 05 02:59:57 2008 May 05 07:14:33 good morning all ! May 05 07:49:12 bonjour May 05 07:49:19 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5dcbd5da... 10/ (11 files in 2 dirs): various machines: TARGET_FPU is policy, remove it from machines May 05 07:49:24 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2c62d5f5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc): angstrom: add TARGET_FPU for various archs May 05 08:52:21 RP: ping May 05 08:59:09 morning May 05 08:59:16 Julian_chu: RP has holiday today May 05 08:59:50 hrw: Wow, thanks :) May 05 09:01:00 * Julian_chu hopes also have holiday in Taiwan :P May 05 09:03:32 ;D May 05 09:12:42 re May 05 09:23:02 03rpurdie * r1063 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): runqueue.py: Fix default whitelist variable value May 05 10:42:58 03ifaistos 07unknown * r94f5af4e... 10/ (1 conf/machine/sequoia.conf): May 05 10:42:58 conf/machine/sequoia.conf : Use OE kernel infrastracture instead of a custom kernel .bb May 05 10:42:58 Set uboot 1.3.2 May 05 10:43:02 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r6a17da03... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): packages/linux/linux_2.6.25.bb : Set linux_2.6.25 as the kernel for the sequoia board May 05 10:47:07 good morning May 05 10:48:37 hi florian May 05 10:54:41 hello May 05 10:55:12 moin May 05 10:57:01 uclibc.inc in .stable makes a very horrid impression :) May 05 10:57:50 I'm unable to include dbus package to my final image distro. I'm getting the following error -> Cannot find package dbus May 05 10:58:36 nevertheless, dbus package is built with success with "bitbake dbus" May 05 10:59:16 IMAGE_INSTALL += " ..... dbus ....." May 05 10:59:31 any idea please? May 05 11:00:55 (sorry, I have just the Topic of the channel, ...) May 05 11:01:25 where can i to ask questions about distros? May 05 11:26:42 http://www.colectionarul.com/existenz1.html May 05 11:36:33 http://forge.mysql.com/people/person.php?id=1522 May 05 11:40:37 lol May 05 11:40:57 1503 1462 too May 05 11:41:28 got them in spam on blog May 05 11:42:15 hmm, why is this reporting a syntax error? ERROR: 6:SyntaxError:'cp Makefile Makefile.orig' May 05 11:43:29 show recipe? May 05 11:43:41 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/422673 May 05 11:43:50 well thats the failing function, but I can paste the whole recipe too May 05 11:44:07 patch task is NOT shell May 05 11:44:10 it is Python May 05 11:44:16 aah crap May 05 11:44:21 did not know that May 05 11:44:22 thanks May 05 11:44:34 hmm, configure_prepend ? May 05 11:44:34 Jin^eLD: you want do_configure_prepend not do_patch_append May 05 11:44:39 :) May 05 11:44:39 thanks May 05 11:44:54 ever heard about "sed -i" btw? May 05 11:44:59 I'm still battling the uclibc/meta-toolchain thing May 05 11:45:10 and make patch instead of that tasks May 05 11:45:17 s/s$// May 05 11:45:29 for now I try to follow the CLFS guide May 05 11:45:36 once it works I will clean it up further May 05 11:45:39 ok May 05 11:46:32 I believe RP's sysroot changes cleaned up the whole uclibc/gcc mess a lot, right? May 05 11:47:11 that will not go into .stable though? May 05 11:47:59 most likely not until there is a new stable branch, at least in my opinion May 05 11:48:39 Crofton: ...and that's scheduled for end of year? May 05 11:48:40 stable needs to mean stable :) , moving a big infrastructure change in would most likely lead to a period of instability May 05 11:48:49 not sure May 05 11:49:50 basically, you need a stable OE, with sysroot? May 05 11:50:01 Crofton: well, I need a stable OE where meta-toolchain works :) May 05 11:50:17 and the old toolchain recipes are indeed very difficult to grasp May 05 11:50:32 I think RP cleaned up a lot of messy stuff in .dev May 05 11:50:39 you always have the option of creating your own stable May 05 11:50:58 you mean by merging in the bits from .dev that I need? May 05 11:51:02 I strongly suspect that is a common practice for people doing product work May 05 11:51:16 well, take .dev and make a branch May 05 11:51:24 Jin^eLD: s/OE/Poky and you will get it May 05 11:51:25 ;) May 05 11:51:32 hrw: nope ;) tried already May 05 11:51:43 ah. uclib May 05 11:51:44 c May 05 11:51:48 yep :> May 05 11:52:23 Crofton: well, I was kind of hoping that I could spare the branching and use .stable, and besides the meta-toolchain it was working out quite nicely May 05 11:56:02 if stable was perfect, we wouldn't need .dev :) May 05 11:56:59 sure :) but my thought was that .stable is well suited for product development, while .dev is bleeding edge May 05 11:56:59 and vice versa May 05 11:58:59 dev is moving quite fast and gets broken from time to time, so .stable seems a good choice for product dev, imho at least May 05 11:59:13 I tried going with .dev for the beginning but it was not going so well May 05 11:59:21 Jin^eLD, you are correct, but you also need one feature that wasn't ready for .stable May 05 11:59:34 but .stable works for others May 05 11:59:41 this stuff is hard :( May 05 11:59:48 Crofton: well, I can't say that that I need sysroot, I simply need a working meta-toolchain :) May 05 12:00:04 and meta-toolchain is indeed hard :( May 05 12:00:34 we understand the problem, but we can only do what we have resources for May 05 12:00:52 and not many resources can meta-toolchain May 05 12:00:55 I was talking about RP's sysroot changes simply because he cleaned up the gcc/etc packages, so I thought I might have more chances to get through with the new ones May 05 12:01:17 Crofton: sure, I also understand that May 05 12:01:37 Jin^eLD: and adding those changes to .stable require 1 manweek probably May 05 12:01:57 uuh.. that's indeed a lot May 05 12:02:32 well, I hope that I can survive with the clfs approach May 05 12:02:38 let's see how that goes May 05 12:02:58 the stuff inside OE (i.e. building things with OE) does work, so that's luckily not an issue May 05 12:03:36 allthough the libc.so.6 thing is very strange, and allthough it works within OE I still suspect that there is a problem with the generated toolchain, not only with meta-toolchain May 05 12:36:16 any reason why __cxa_atexit is being disabled in the recipes for uclibc? May 05 12:42:31 doh, with meta-toolchain there is just no escape :) .dev is also broken May 05 13:53:56 <^Takut^> hello May 05 13:54:27 <^Takut^> anyone have information about running Linux on nokia 9300 May 05 15:13:00 <^Takut^> is it possible running linux on nokia 9300/9500 ? May 05 15:22:14 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * rd61da5b8... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/qemu.inc): qemu.inc: add keyboard to MACHINE_FEATURES May 05 15:28:01 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1c81965a... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: define FREESMARTPHONE_GIT May 05 16:04:43 hi NineX May 05 16:09:22 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r88982572... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp_2.6.24.bb: build packet support in qemux86 kernel May 05 16:12:07 hi hrw May 05 16:25:09 hi woglinde May 05 16:31:39 woglinde: thanks for autotools tips May 05 16:37:04 bye guys May 05 16:37:15 l8r hrw May 05 16:37:21 cbrake: thx for article May 05 16:38:54 cbrake did you test my uclibc patch? May 05 16:39:27 woglinde: not yet, hoping to get to that this afternoon if I can get a few other things cleared out of the way May 05 16:39:39 hm its outdaded now May 05 16:39:52 but should not be to compilcated to merge May 05 16:39:54 *g* May 05 16:57:10 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r73fcb901... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): May 05 16:57:10 base.bbclass: Add setscene task, fixing the rebuild task funcionality with May 05 16:57:10 recent bitbake versions and improving interaction with packaged staging. May 05 16:57:10 WARNING: The result of this commit on existing builds is they will effectively May 05 16:57:10 rebuild from scratch. May 05 16:57:15 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r8562d4dc... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): base.bbclass: Merge some minor fixes/optimisations/cleanups from Poky May 05 16:57:19 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r040c69c2... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): base.bbclass: Add checkuri and checkuriall tasks from Poky May 05 16:57:24 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r4286bc9e... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): packaged-staging.bbclass: Merge in fixes/improvements from Poky and use new setscene task May 05 16:57:46 * RP hopes the above warning is plain May 05 16:57:53 I've also mailed the list May 05 16:57:58 good May 05 16:58:02 hey RP May 05 16:58:23 morning all :) May 05 17:02:46 sounds like a good excuse to wipe tmp :) May 05 17:16:10 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc4aee04f... 10/ (1 classes/sdk.bbclass): sdk.bbclass: Sync with Poky, override STAGING_DIR_HOST so native and sdk libs don't end up in the same place and conflict May 05 17:18:27 RP: this sdk.bbclass change - would that work in .stable as well? May 05 17:18:43 I wonder if I should try it May 05 17:19:01 bye May 05 17:20:10 hm. why does portmap-6.0 install a world-writeable init script into /etc/init.d May 05 17:31:58 Laibsch: I'll look at the anthy-9100e issue after the rebuild-from-scratch May 05 17:32:08 nice, thanks May 05 17:40:28 XorA|gone, ping May 05 17:43:25 I'm currently programming for an an OE based distro and I need to run my application on a debugger May 05 17:43:54 I got gbd on my device but it seems no debug info is in my executable binary May 05 17:44:14 Debug info is stripped and put into .debug dirs May 05 17:44:38 Install it somewhere (the -dbg packages) and tell gdb solib-absolute-prefix is that May 05 17:44:41 could someone point me where to look? Is there something to do with the -dbg and -dev files that are produced when I build May 05 17:44:47 or if you've got gdb 6.8, set sysroot that May 05 17:49:10 Tartarus: Thx i'll try this May 05 17:55:25 Tartarus: could you explain that 6.8 sysroot item for gdb? May 05 17:55:54 Tartarus: because I think we can set it automatically for remote gdb sessions from the OE build host May 05 18:11:55 likewise, khem would know better :) May 05 18:12:02 there might be some automagic thing you can do May 05 18:12:26 but i only ever use OE in an SDK-like env May 05 18:17:45 Tartarus: when I set solib-absolute-prefix in gdb I think it tries to load symbols for all the shared libs but not for the main executable May 05 18:19:58 Did you 'file' the executible? May 05 18:20:11 do that then connect May 05 18:26:59 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. May 05 18:26:59 0x402910d0 in ?? () May 05 18:27:44 Tartarus: it doesn't look like there is debug info... but now I can see that the symbols are loaded May 05 18:27:47 backtrace and see where that's coming from? May 05 18:27:57 and your app is built w/ -g right? :) May 05 18:28:12 after bt there is only "#0 0x402910d0 in ?? ()" May 05 18:28:24 odd May 05 18:28:26 arm? May 05 18:28:32 yes arm May 05 18:29:02 I am not sure about the -g though cause I used a configure script May 05 18:29:11 built inside OE or out? May 05 18:29:16 inside OE should have debug info May 05 18:29:24 just a matter of getting all of the -dbg packages in May 05 18:30:34 Do you mean I shouldalso install the -dbg packages for the libraries that are used by my app May 05 18:31:05 yes May 05 18:46:24 (well, that depends if jmichel is remote debugging, but I guess not) May 05 18:46:32 hi zecke May 05 18:48:42 likewise: I'm building on my AMD computer but I'm debugging on the target device May 05 18:49:44 jmichel: if gdb runs on the target, then yes, you'ld need access to the debugging info (dgb packages) there May 05 19:44:14 hi flo May 05 20:11:15 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r2de318fc... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): gnash-minimal: Added gnash-minimal.inc, and _cvs.bb May 05 20:11:15 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r91ddf2b6... 10/ (1 packages/qt4/qt4-x11-free.inc packages/qt4/qt_staging.inc): qt_staging.inc: substitute OE_QMAKE_LIBS_X11 in libtool files May 05 20:11:15 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r2e9e31aa... 10/ (1 packages/sailcut packages/sailcut/sailcut_1.3.2.bb): sailcut_1.3.2.bb: package Sailcut CAD sail design software May 05 20:16:06 What is the setup for a proper oe mirror? May 05 20:16:10 mtn mirror, that is? May 05 20:23:21 re May 05 20:32:52 re May 05 20:38:22 hrw: wb May 05 20:47:38 Congratulations flo_lap May 05 20:48:13 I know i'm two or so days late, but hey I just read through all the IRC logs May 05 20:49:43 anymore you just congratulate the channel, someone must have had a baby May 05 20:50:20 hrw: the portmap-6.0 recipe installs /etc/init.d/portmap with -m 0757 :/ May 05 20:50:57 pH5: That must be a mistake! May 05 20:56:46 Fique: thanks May 05 20:57:46 pH5: then please fix it May 05 20:59:55 pH5: sorry - I am fixing it now May 05 21:00:43 hrw: thanks. just wanted to ping you in case that typo is in poky, too. May 05 21:01:28 fixed in both May 05 21:01:59 one day I have to make 'merge day' again May 05 21:09:46 pH5: it looks like we both add x.org components - you to oe, I to poky May 05 21:12:33 yay, duplicate work. happens :) May 05 21:19:52 ~curse ametyst May 05 21:19:53 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, ametyst ! May 05 21:19:56 hi mickeyl May 05 21:20:12 yo May 05 21:20:17 mickeyl: can you check how much swap mtn on amethyst already took? May 05 21:20:52 no swap May 05 21:21:04 still main memory May 05 21:21:05 why? May 05 21:21:34 few attempts to push one simple change - none finished May 05 21:22:23 looks like this time it push May 05 21:22:34 time to add cronjob for mtn pull May 05 21:25:28 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r86dacb8c... 10/ (1 packages/portmap/portmap_6.0.bb): portmap: do not install initscript with world writable permissions May 05 21:25:38 *shrug* May 05 21:25:45 git server will be more reliable May 05 21:27:19 * Crofton notes source.mvista.com/git has been up and down all day ... May 05 21:27:41 Crofton: git.kernel.org has mirror ;) May 05 21:27:58 mickeyl: I think I'll have a little celebration when we switch to git! May 05 21:28:45 We should wait a week before celebrating :) May 05 21:36:29 I find libglade doesn't build for me for Angstom 2008.1 for device Magician: http://pastebin.com/m12f68e84 May 05 21:36:56 Is the package just broken (and is the right place to ask such questions?)? Can someone else try building libglade and see if it does work? May 05 21:37:19 (I'm trying to build an Angstrom 2008.1 openmoko-devel-image for the Magician device.) May 05 21:38:58 * steliosk digs a deeper fortified trench that will hopefully withstand the SCM transition May 05 21:40:40 has anyone used gcc's Profile Directed Feeedback optimizations ? May 05 21:42:05 paulproteus, NOTE: package libglade-2.6.2: completed with revision d5c334bedd0c46402afcdd1d330191309bcb3d6e May 05 21:42:38 dcordes, Hmm, so it does build for you. Mine is 2.6.2-r2; does that make any difference? May 05 21:45:27 paulproteus, try putting int your conf/local.conf a line "PREFERRED_VERSION_libglade ?= "2.6.2"" May 05 21:45:33 Will do so. May 05 21:50:02 dcordes, It told me, "NOTE: Running task 897 of 964 (ID: 3, /home/paulproteus/openembedded/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/libglade/libglade_2.6.2.bb, do_unpack)" - but it seems to then print exactly the same thing. May 05 21:50:20 This is what I added to local.conf: PREFERRED_VERSION_libglade ?= "2.6.2" May 05 21:50:52 paulproteus, try an mtn pull && mtn update && bitbake -c clean libglade && bitbake libglade or so May 05 21:53:36 dcordes, Okay, trying that, FWIW I've had this problem for the past two days or so. May 05 21:54:33 Jin|away: I don't see why it wouldn't work but it only helps a small subset of people May 05 21:56:32 brb May 05 21:57:33 paulproteus, that's why you're updating your metadata now ;) May 05 21:57:46 dcordes, I mean, I've updated my metadata before during these two days. May 05 21:58:46 hmm May 05 21:59:01 should a bitbake installed with --root=/foo always not see stuff in a regular system install? May 05 21:59:25 ./bitbake/usr/bin/bitbake --version May 05 21:59:25 BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.8.8, bitbake version 1.8.10 May 05 21:59:30 from bitbake 1.8.10 tarball May 05 22:00:20 That sounds like there is bits of 1.8.8 hanging around which is a really bad idea May 05 22:01:43 paulproteus, any luck? May 05 22:02:23 Still pulling, haven't gotten even to the update phase yet. May 05 22:05:08 RP, the system install is 1.8.8 May 05 22:05:23 I want a newer version locally May 05 22:06:27 Tartarus: I'd not recommend system installs but if you work out what the problem is I'll take patches :/ May 05 22:06:40 RP, heh, k May 05 22:06:42 Tartarus: You probably need to set PYTHONPATH properly May 05 22:06:55 RP, I was kinda hoping it might trigger an oh-yeah, svn doesn't have that problem May 05 22:07:24 It triggers a "don't do system installs" reaction ;-) May 05 22:07:29 heh May 05 22:07:42 actually, I don't have this svn one installed anywhere really, just running the compiled stuff May 05 22:08:18 the not installed version is correct May 05 22:08:23 only happens once actually installed May 05 22:08:39 so something isn't getting fiddled right for the install path May 05 22:08:45 Um, the pull seems to have hung. May 05 22:10:51 Lets hope I don't find who out is adding these custom do_configures all the time as a shortcut for making the standard autoreconf work... May 05 22:11:25 rp *g* May 05 22:14:00 dcordes, pulled and updated; doing clean and then rebuild now. May 05 22:15:08 RP: does the binutils-avr32.inc fall into that category? May 05 22:15:44 likewise : probably define that category ;) May 05 22:16:22 RP: the category of ppl adding all the custom do_configures that should have been autoreconfs May 05 22:16:31 RP, only kinda related, can you think of any bugs in 1.8.8 that called for bitbake to actually be installed system wide? Or if not a bitbake bug, an OE bug / misconfiguration? May 05 22:16:56 likewise: That one isn't so bad May 05 22:17:07 well it is, but for other reasons I suppose. May 05 22:17:17 steliosk: I could reproduce your bdf problem on 64-bit gentoo... May 05 22:17:20 icu-3.6.inc is the one that could tip my sanity over the edge May 05 22:17:22 bfd May 05 22:17:38 well, I'm off to zzz now. May 05 22:17:43 nite all May 05 22:17:46 it also failed on a 32bit debian host May 05 22:17:55 likewise: Its bad in different ways. I'd probably patch the other directories out of configure.ac instead for AVR May 05 22:20:11 Hallo exco. May 05 22:20:18 Hi paulproteus May 05 22:20:41 paulproteus: ist also auch aus de... wie der halbe htc-linux-channel? May 05 22:20:43 Tartarus: I've never used bitbake system wide, ever May 05 22:20:58 exco, I don't speak German. May 05 22:21:06 Nor even read, I'm afraid. May 05 22:21:32 Tartarus: That means such bugs are unlikely ;-) May 05 22:22:23 my mistake... (hallo) May 05 22:22:27 Well shit :) May 05 22:22:28 Ah. (-: May 05 22:23:52 well... where to start May 05 22:24:22 exco, Where to start as far as OE? May 05 22:24:28 I'd say the recommended image is goxbox OE May 05 22:24:36 exco, Let's have *this* conversation on #htc-linux. May 05 22:24:49 Let's talk about how to get OE set up for you in #oe sometime. May 05 22:27:55 Tartarus: please submit a bug to the bugtracker. system-wide installs should work May 05 22:28:05 i can take a look then May 05 22:30:32 as long as it doesn't work for you... I think I don't stand a chance (cause I'd just google the errors without actually knowing what I'm doing) May 05 22:30:56 mickeyl, k, will do May 05 22:35:21 filed, 4215 May 05 22:36:34 bye all May 05 22:36:57 'night hrw May 05 22:37:38 gn hrw see you in a few hours :) May 05 22:37:44 Crofton: yep May 05 22:39:38 RP: icu-native failed ;( May 05 22:40:02 hrw: where? locally? May 05 22:40:21 hrw|gone: Can you pull successfully now? May 05 22:40:25 hrw|gone: I pushed a fix and hacked the autobuilder... May 05 22:40:26 What mtn version? May 05 22:40:27 paulproteus, ping me when you have a working qvga gui with your moko image ;) May 05 22:42:04 XorA|gone, kaiser vogue and friends kernel development has a home now: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm May 05 22:42:15 dcordes, (-: May 05 22:42:21 dcordes, I will ping you even if I get errors on the way there! May 05 22:42:39 lol that's ok May 05 22:43:49 that reminds me I wanted to get X11 in angstrom x11-image starting May 05 22:44:08 That sounds pretty useful. May 05 22:44:48 haha May 05 22:45:02 that reminds me I wanted to get X11 in angstrom x11-image starting on kaiser May 05 22:46:46 * dcordes cleans tmp and does a fresh angstrom-2008.1 openmoko-image build for arm11 May 05 22:50:21 hmm, lame now breaks, again, a custom do_configure :(# May 05 22:53:34 Laibsch: I have 'mtn pull' started at 23:26 (01:01 now) which not yet end May 05 22:53:38 * hrw|gone -> bed now May 05 22:55:10 hrw|gone: I am afraid, it looks like hand-crafted mess has reached amethyst May 05 22:55:26 so, sooner or later, it will be bye-bye amethyst as well May 05 22:55:52 Laibsch: ? :/ May 05 22:56:02 Laibsch: ? May 05 22:57:30 IMHO, http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62 is responsible for the unmaintainable state that ltg has to struggle with May 05 22:58:10 When I looked at top@amethyst after hrw reported problems, I realized, the same thing has already happened to amethyst now May 05 22:58:25 So, it is only a matter of time before we see frequent breakages on amethyst May 05 22:58:28 Laibsch: With which packages? May 05 22:58:38 The one I know about now is mtn May 05 22:59:00 * RP suspects he's guilty of some of this but I will save that disucssion for another time/place May 05 22:59:55 Well, I admit, I had to install bugzilla from tar May 05 23:00:14 greg had used 3.x and that was the format the database was in May 05 23:00:19 Laibsch: For gitosis I actually built packaged on amethyst, then installed them May 05 23:00:28 So, there was really nothing I could do but do a tarball install May 05 23:00:36 Laibsch: cgit is going to need to be a tarball too :/ May 05 23:00:40 Yes, I usually do that, too May 05 23:01:01 Hm, looks like trouble looming May 05 23:01:54 Just my 2c but ubuntu might have been a better choice when thinking about up2date packages with security fixes May 05 23:02:01 With debian, you either get one or the other May 05 23:02:03 Laibsch: lets try and head it off then. I did make extensive notes and will share them in due course, when I get a minute to look at git again... May 05 23:02:13 RP: good May 05 23:02:24 What I did is documented in /root May 05 23:02:28 mickey|zzZZzz: Is there an admin list for amethyst? If not can we create one (or e mail alias) May 05 23:02:51 particularly /root/unpackaged.txt May 05 23:03:12 RP: I guess /root/.ssh/authorized_keys is a possibility May 05 23:03:28 most people are discernible May 05 23:04:13 Unfortunately, I am afraid that documenting alone won't do it May 05 23:04:32 Laibsch: No, but even communicating with the people using the machine would help May 05 23:04:49 Why do we have one or more tarball installs of mtn when monotone itself publishes packages? May 05 23:05:14 Why don't we have a policy about installing non-debian stuff? IOW, unpackaged stuff? May 05 23:05:27 I guess I understand that we cannot always rely on packages May 05 23:05:31 I've just touched git stuff May 05 23:06:14 But strongly discouraging it and having a clear policy to follow when installing tarballs would go a long way, I assume. May 05 23:06:30 RP: nobody did anything wrong May 05 23:06:39 The overall outcome can still be disaster May 05 23:06:59 That is why in a company you have management (if not in a Dilbert world ;-)) May 05 23:07:02 Laibsch: right, so create a mail alias and lets get some communication system setup May 05 23:07:24 My understanding was that it's mickey's machine May 05 23:07:31 So, I was hoping for word from him May 05 23:07:32 Laibsch: It is May 05 23:07:44 He was quiet on it, so I suspected the worst May 05 23:07:54 I think he's just tired ;-) May 05 23:08:20 I guess May 05 23:08:30 But I've raised the issue at least two times now May 05 23:08:46 I just try to avoid this going into the wrong direction at full speed May 05 23:08:54 which is where I see it going now May 05 23:09:19 There is a lot of pressure to get things working by whatever means are necessary May 05 23:09:40 yes, but giving in to those pressures brings disaster long-term May 05 23:09:41 There is also a lot of sense in taking a step back and setting things up properly if we can May 05 23:09:44 Again, management May 05 23:10:03 common sense to me... May 05 23:10:13 I guess we all agree May 05 23:10:25 just use different words May 05 23:10:43 Needs to be "formally" agreed upon, communicated and enacted May 05 23:11:08 I think *now* is the time to set things going right May 05 23:11:35 This is why I'm not rushing the git stuff... May 05 23:11:51 hm, testing is important May 05 23:12:02 and wouldn't have to be on amethyst May 05 23:12:18 So, I sincerely hope that is not holding it back. May 05 23:12:33 No packages in debian? May 05 23:12:43 Laibsch: The holdup is purely my time which is frustarting me :( May 05 23:13:50 well, you said you resorted to unpackaged stuff May 05 23:14:07 git stuff seems to be available for debian stable May 05 23:14:14 * Laibsch is git novice May 05 23:14:32 Laibsch: cgit isn't, gitosis isn't, git is 1.4, we need 1.5 but can get it from backports May 05 23:15:12 I have gitosis packaged at least, cgit isn't too invasive to install manually since its just a cgi script and config file May 05 23:15:15 recompile http://packages.debian.org/lenny/gitosis May 05 23:15:47 I'm not sure that existed when I started this ;-) May 05 23:15:49 But, once you start backporting tons, that is where my debian/ubuntu and stable/testing argument comes into play May 05 23:15:54 Maybe not May 05 23:16:01 Just showing the options we have now May 05 23:16:26 * Crofton is beginning to uderstand the attraction of virtualization May 05 23:16:31 We should also move stuff that originally was not available as a package under aptitude's control May 05 23:16:32 You consider needs on a case by case basis. Using git 1.4 would be totally insane May 05 23:16:54 gitosis is installed as a package so that shouldn't be difficult May 05 23:17:13 I don't think I've installed anything without packaging yet,.. May 05 23:22:36 'night all May 05 23:53:04 * * OE Bug 917 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by May 05 23:53:06 * * build fails for libsoundgen if LANG is not english May 05 23:53:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=917 May 05 23:53:16 <^Takut^> hello May 05 23:53:45 <^Takut^> is it possible to run linux on nokia communicator ? May 05 23:56:05 * * OE Bug 959 has been RESOLVED (LATER) by May 05 23:56:07 * * Centericq is broken? May 05 23:56:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=959 May 06 00:02:24 * Tartarus kicks mtn May 06 00:04:07 * * OE Bug 919 has been RESOLVED (LATER) by May 06 00:04:08 * * atmelwlandriver doesn't compile [distro=angstrom-2006.9, machine=h3900] May 06 00:04:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=919 May 06 00:12:10 * * OE Bug 959 has been RESOLVED (LATER) by May 06 00:12:10 * * Centericq is broken? May 06 00:12:17 Laibsch, centericq is outdated May 06 00:12:23 should use centerim instead May 06 00:13:14 i have a bb made for it May 06 00:13:19 not pushed cuz im lazy May 06 00:13:24 http://devfiles.jlime.com/OE-Merge/custom-bb-files/centerim/centerim_4.22.5.bb May 06 00:13:51 you should become more active ;-) May 06 00:13:59 I'll try compilation and eventually push it May 06 00:14:10 well i try, but jlime dev takes most my free time May 06 00:14:20 it build for me with that b file just fine May 06 00:14:23 bb* May 06 00:14:44 and out maintainer is slacking with pushing stuff :) May 06 00:14:57 i got him to finally push out distro files yesterday May 06 00:16:14 i was going to push a few things last night, but the link to add files on openembedded.org is dead May 06 00:16:57 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ree2de0e0... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): efl1: drop imlib2/remove-local-includes.patch after it become unused in b84aeb3b3fcb9975cdaaafccc4ecbc7ca61c5312 May 06 00:17:01 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r4fa77bd2... 10/ (1 packages/centericq packages/nonworking/centericq): centericq: The software looks unmaintained in OE. Moving to non-working and closing 959 as LATER. May 06 00:17:06 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra26f0aa5... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): atmelwlandriver: move apparently unsupported package to non-working and close 919 as LATER. May 06 00:17:37 wicknix: What link are you referring to? May 06 00:17:49 what page? May 06 00:17:59 http://bugs.openembedded.org/ the requested URL / was not found on this se May 06 00:17:59 pointing to bugs.openembedded.org? May 06 00:18:07 yes, try .net May 06 00:18:10 linked off of http://oe.linuxtogo.org/ May 06 00:18:21 Sorry, our .org DNS guy is also a bit lazy May 06 00:18:28 heh like me :) May 06 00:18:29 .net should be better maintained May 06 00:18:55 ok. thanks. might try to push stuff later then. just home from work. need food and stuff first. May 06 00:19:03 mickey|zzZZzz: Can you please fix the link to bugs.oe.org and point to .net on http://oe.linuxtogo.org? May 06 00:20:25 otherwise feel free to grab anything from the subdirectories from our devfiles link i posted May 06 00:20:46 i have a few fixed url bb files and a few not in oe yet May 06 00:21:05 or they werent in oe at he time i built them May 06 00:21:27 I don't have too much time May 06 00:21:45 Ig you show me the links that need to be updated, I can push them May 06 00:22:23 http://devfiles.jlime.com/OE-Merge/fixed-bb-file-urls/ all those i had to find working download links for May 06 00:22:30 they were all broken May 06 00:22:48 or dead links May 06 00:24:12 Is that against oe.dev? May 06 00:24:16 yea May 06 00:24:52 Can you do "mtn diff > /tmp/big.patch" ? May 06 00:25:02 sure one sec May 06 00:26:51 odd. created an empty big.patch file May 06 00:28:51 mtn diff packages/centerim/ May 06 00:28:58 Try that without redirecting into a file May 06 00:30:14 mtn is bitching about ssh_agent couldnt connect. May 06 00:31:16 anyway those were fixed from march 3rd pull. just updated yesterday again and havent looked to see if any of those were changed. May 06 00:31:52 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r665b801e... 10/ (1 packages/uicmoc/uicmoc4-native.inc): uicmoc4-native.inc: build lrelease translation tool May 06 00:33:07 wicknix: Open a ticket in the bug tracker about your updates and pick me about it tomorrow May 06 00:33:38 will do. will eat, then get to it a little later tonight. May 06 00:34:31 s/pick/ping/ May 06 00:43:19 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r5c57f792... 10/ (1 packages/uicmoc/uicmoc4-native.inc): uicmoc4-native.inc: build lrelease translation tool May 06 00:47:10 There's no "uninherit" keyword is there? May 06 00:47:21 And, is there a good reason for gdb-cross and gdb-cross-sdk to have differnet patches? May 06 00:47:26 paulproteus, what do you bake? openmoko-image? May 06 00:51:21 dcordes, Right now just libglade. May 06 00:51:36 Because of the update that wants to do 1305 tasks; on #539 May 06 00:51:51 I'm at task 2279 of 4143 of openmoko-image May 06 01:00:43 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r9e580a67... 10/ (18 files in 8 dirs): centericq: centericq has evolved into centerim. latest release is 4.22.5. Fixes 959 for good. May 06 01:01:55 dcordes, http://pastebin.com/m7a7a2ce3 - more failure, this time on glib May 06 01:01:58 dcordes, What machine? May 06 01:02:08 htckaiser May 06 01:02:33 paulproteus, do you still have the preferred.. line? May 06 01:02:50 PREFERRED_VERSION_libglade ?= "2.6.2" May 06 01:02:58 But note it's glib not libglade that failed (with the same error - how strange...). May 06 01:03:03 I hope the question mark is right May 06 01:03:12 oh didn't notice May 06 01:03:49 paulproteus, can you show me /home/paulproteus/openembedded/stuff/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glib-2.0-2.16.1-r4/temp/log.do_compile.11954 ? May 06 01:04:26 Three lines: NOTE: make May 06 01:04:26 Makefile:349: *** missing separator. Stop. May 06 01:04:26 FATAL: oe_runmake failed May 06 01:05:03 that's odd May 06 01:06:46 bitbake -c rebuild glib-2.0 ? May 06 01:06:56 Doing so. May 06 01:09:22 dcordes, Same problem, new log.do_compile has the same message. May 06 01:10:56 paulproteus, no clue, sorry. never cam across that error May 06 01:11:31 dcordes, Curious. I'll try building on a different machine. May 06 01:12:55 wicknix: Thank you for http://devfiles.jlime.com/OE-Merge/fixed-bb-file-urls/ May 06 01:13:07 But much of the stuff there is also outdated or broken May 06 01:13:14 I'll make a few commits May 06 01:13:26 dcordes, Is your machine QVGA also? May 06 01:13:49 yes May 06 01:13:58 Cool, so if I can't build mine I could perhaps use yours.... May 06 01:14:19 last time I tried qvga is a complete mess. but that was before I openned an OM bug about it and is a few weeks ago May 06 01:15:01 I fear not. your cpu is not understanding my cpu instructions May 06 01:15:19 kaiser is arm11 May 06 01:15:38 armv6 and you have armv5 May 06 01:15:46 Oh, how exciting. May 06 01:16:41 yes isn't it May 06 01:17:20 paulproteus, you can try using builds from the angstrom autobuilder May 06 01:17:25 dcordes, Oh, good point. May 06 01:17:28 That never occurred to me. May 06 01:17:31 URL? May 06 01:17:35 Oh, wait - I couldn't find Magician images there. May 06 01:17:43 Only lists of which files *would be* in a Magician image. May 06 01:17:46 I thought that was quite strange. May 06 01:17:47 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/ May 06 01:18:08 So (a) these are from Feb 2008, and May 06 01:18:15 (b) there's no image at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/magician/Angstrom-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r3-magician-testlab/ May 06 01:18:20 Just lots of graphs and text files. May 06 01:18:26 I think that is because the autobuilder can't make magician images or somebody doesn't want it to build magician images May 06 01:19:23 maybe you magician.conf has some broken dependencies May 06 01:19:51 I guess I'll try building a BA image right now to see if I can at least get as far as you have come. May 06 01:21:25 paulproteus, you should compare both machine.confs before to make sure that will give you any progress May 06 01:22:14 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r36622c0e... 10/ (1 packages/sailcut/sailcut_1.3.2.bb): sailcut_1.3.2.bb: pick up correct versions of lrelease and lupdate May 06 01:23:19 * Tartarus makes his OE bugs bookmark folder a bit bigger May 06 01:24:05 * * OE Bug 4216 has been created by trini(AT)embeddedalley.com May 06 01:24:07 * * r May 06 01:24:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4216 May 06 01:24:54 bot's 100% i see, heh May 06 01:25:10 gdb-cross/gdb-cross-sdk don't patch the same, if anyone wants to go take it :) May 06 01:39:05 * * OE Bug 4217 has been created by wicked5850(AT)yahoo.com May 06 01:39:07 * * tmsnc May 06 01:39:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4217 May 06 01:48:31 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r972947ed... 10/ (1 packages/dhcdbd/dhcdbd_2.0.bb): dhcdbd: fix SRC_URI and remove inaccessible HOMEPAGE. Thanks to the jlime project for the hint. May 06 02:05:08 >+< May 06 02:05:30 damn keyboard May 06 02:21:07 * * OE Bug 4218 has been created by wicked5850(AT)yahoo.com May 06 02:21:09 * * naim May 06 02:21:11 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4218 May 06 02:26:05 * * OE Bug 4219 has been created by wicked5850(AT)yahoo.com May 06 02:26:07 * * FrobTADS May 06 02:26:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4219 May 06 02:29:05 * * OE Bug 4220 has been created by wicked5850(AT)yahoo.com May 06 02:29:07 * * centerim May 06 02:29:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4220 May 06 02:31:05 * * OE Bug 4220 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 959 by May 06 02:31:07 * * centerim May 06 02:31:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4220 May 06 02:38:04 * * OE Bug 4221 has been created by bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz May 06 02:38:06 * * bugzilla keyword search is b0rked May 06 02:38:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4221 May 06 02:44:05 * * OE Bug 3429 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by May 06 02:44:07 * * gnash-CVS May 06 02:44:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3429 May 06 02:46:05 * * OE Bug 3258 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by May 06 02:46:07 * * iptables_1.3.8 fails to compile May 06 02:46:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3258 May 06 02:47:05 * * OE Bug 3835 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by May 06 02:47:07 * * gettext-native_0.14.1 fails do_configure May 06 02:47:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3835 May 06 02:50:05 * * OE Bug 3254 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by May 06 02:50:07 * * native OpenSSL fails to build due to the use of target linker flags May 06 02:50:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3254 May 06 02:51:05 * * OE Bug 2189 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by May 06 02:51:07 * * libgcc-s1 wants to overwrite file from libgcc1 May 06 02:51:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2189 May 06 02:54:05 * * OE Bug 2075 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by May 06 02:54:07 * * kismet fails compilation with getopt error May 06 02:54:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2075 May 06 02:58:05 * * OE Bug 1860 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by May 06 02:58:07 * * package libxp-X11R7.0-1.0.0 fail on do_stage May 06 02:58:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1860 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 06 02:59:57 2008