**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 08 02:59:57 2008 May 08 03:40:05 * * OE Bug 4234 has been created by bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz May 08 03:40:08 * * zaurus-updater not being pulled in May 08 03:40:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4234 May 08 06:56:53 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb0f78dcf... 10/ (14 files in 7 dirs): disapproval of revision 'b8e46b797b32111526a2116d020fdd9e1c079965' May 08 07:54:31 morning May 08 07:57:13 hi cyrilRomain May 08 07:59:02 morning May 08 08:20:51 tmbinc: got a second? May 08 09:10:55 hi ScaredyCat May 08 09:10:57 hi schurig May 08 09:11:05 hrw: greetings! May 08 09:11:17 hrw: btw, you can send me your Marvell card :-) May 08 09:11:24 (as I have done all the work ... grin ...) May 08 09:12:05 hrw: yesterday I deployed 40 devices with the Marvell card at a customer, worked good enought there (not yet nice) May 08 09:12:14 schurig: no problem - gave me address May 08 09:12:22 hrw: hey, that was a joke May 08 09:12:28 schurig: I do not use zarurus at all now May 08 09:12:32 schurig: I know ;) May 08 09:12:33 which marvell cards are you guys using? May 08 09:12:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf7083197... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-davinci_2.6.x+git-davinci.bb): linux davinci: fix PV and an template for future git updates May 08 09:12:40 hrw: I could use the freerunner, thougth ... May 08 09:12:43 Jin|away: 802.11g on 8285 chipset May 08 09:12:49 schurig: which I do not have May 08 09:12:55 8385 May 08 09:13:13 hrw: do you have any knowledge about i.MX21? Is a i.MX21 with 350 MHz similar fast to a PXA with 400 MHz ? May 08 09:13:30 schurig: no idea May 08 09:13:32 Jin^eLD: CF card with 8385 May 08 09:13:33 but w8 May 08 09:14:03 hrw: "w8" ? May 08 09:14:16 shurig: I had a look at 8686 I think May 08 09:14:27 but only a very brief look May 08 09:14:32 wait May 08 09:14:58 8686 use same core driver as 8385 (or rather in reverse) May 08 09:15:05 * * OE Bug 4235 has been created by nestorac(AT)gmail.com May 08 09:15:07 * * linux-geodelx 2.6.11: Compiling error (assembler error) May 08 09:15:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4235 May 08 09:15:24 dev: not really, but in the forums someone was saying that with some on2share plugin it kind of worked May 08 09:15:26 oops wrong window May 08 09:19:24 schurig: btw - I was thinking about donating marvell card to someone at linuxtag (if I will be there) May 08 09:19:52 zecke: have a second? May 08 09:20:16 one May 08 09:21:05 zecke: do you still have spare place on floor during linuxtag? May 08 09:21:07 hrw: need a bed for LT? May 08 09:21:31 zecke: not yet granted that I will be there but yes May 08 09:22:03 ~curse lack of qmtn May 08 09:22:04 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, lack of qmtn ! May 08 09:22:04 hrw: sure. May 08 09:22:14 hrw: guitone? May 08 09:22:56 not in debian ;( May 08 09:23:16 anyway I can use git mirror + qgit May 08 09:25:03 hrw: hehe and I killed guitone after blocking for one hour :) May 08 09:25:06 * hrw will merge year old OE changes into poky May 08 09:25:14 zecke: welcome in mtn world.. May 08 09:26:10 ~curse mtn log May 08 09:26:12 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, mtn log ! May 08 09:26:23 --no-* should be default OFF May 08 09:35:06 good monring May 08 09:35:11 hi florian May 08 09:35:25 ~lart DHL May 08 09:35:25 * ibot steals DHL's mojo May 08 09:37:06 * * OE Bug 4236 has been created by nestorac(AT)gmail.com May 08 09:37:08 * * ERROR: Patches_Linux_2.4.24_1.00.tar.gz: not in gzip format May 08 09:37:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4236 May 08 09:37:39 ~lart melissa May 08 09:37:40 * ibot installs a bad bootloader on melissa and turns melissa into a brick May 08 09:40:50 * schurig fetches his BDI device and un-bricks melissa May 08 09:43:46 schurig: ;) May 08 09:44:07 schurig: why not imx31? May 08 09:45:01 hrw: it's not a self-designed hardware May 08 09:45:58 * florian has a really evil example for hardware design on his desk too May 08 09:47:26 ah ok May 08 10:00:05 hi lrg May 08 10:05:41 hey florian May 08 10:54:08 I forgot that BOX cpu coolers are unusable crap May 08 10:54:40 AMD one added to athlon64 3200+ was loud but I was able to tolerate it May 08 10:54:53 Intel one added to core2quad q6600 is too loud May 08 11:06:38 May 08 11:36:23 hrw: I have the Intel one here and its fine... May 08 11:36:49 RP: I used BIG one on previous system... May 08 11:37:12 anyway will have to open case and check all fans May 08 11:38:24 that reminds me that I should clean my grills, I probably have a whole carpet on the coolers now May 08 11:39:25 ;) May 08 11:39:32 I did that some time ago on old ones May 08 11:39:50 yesterday gfx card cooling was split into parts for cleaning May 08 11:44:05 I hate the small chipset coolers, to get those off you need to rip out the wholo mobo May 08 11:45:57 Jin^eLD: this mainboard lack chipset coolers - big heatsinks insteaed May 08 12:01:09 Have we thought about changing ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL to IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL? May 08 12:03:08 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r8725fd14... 10/ (9 files in 6 dirs): May 08 12:03:08 gmp: consolidate identical patches into files/ May 08 12:03:08 * thanks to koen for spotting my previous glitch May 08 12:03:08 * taking extra care this time to spot "the other odd man out", too May 08 12:11:04 Crofton: I think that would be a good change May 08 12:12:11 I need to make sure I understand the impact first May 08 12:13:01 DISTRO_IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL you mean? May 08 12:13:13 or is it to be settable by user in local.conf? May 08 12:13:38 this is the route I use to add stuff from local.conf May 08 12:14:08 console image uses ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL May 08 12:14:27 This is not an Angstrom specific function May 08 12:16:05 Crofton: agreed if you suggested changing ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL to DISTRO_EXTRA_INSTALL (OR ...IMAGE...). I missed your proposal. May 08 12:16:34 I like IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL May 08 12:16:46 since this works at the image level May 08 12:16:53 not via the distro files May 08 12:16:56 agreed May 08 12:19:30 I suppose I should send something to the list May 08 12:19:50 Interesting. bitbake has decided to try to download ftp://ftp.au.kernel.org/pub/pubpub/publinux/pubkernel/pubv2.6/pubtesting/patch-2.6.25-rc4.bz2 May 08 12:19:59 This is the sort of thing that will break people using ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL May 08 12:20:24 but I really need to work on materail for next weeks workshop also :) May 08 12:23:24 rschuster: hey May 08 12:23:57 zecke: whats up? May 08 12:24:23 rschuster: nothing :) May 08 12:24:37 rschuster: I just wonder if you hang out at the campus some times... May 08 12:25:09 zecke: well, not really. I only come by for exams :) May 08 12:25:25 rschuster: do you maintained the jalimo packages in dev? May 08 12:25:55 rschuster: exams... I'm chasing Mr. Kriegel for quite some time now... May 08 12:27:06 cedric_: yeah, I am maintaining those May 08 12:27:31 cedric_: something b0rken? May 08 12:28:09 rschuster: is it possible to update to include a new cacao release? --> http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/cacaojvm/download/testing/cacao-0.99rc5.tar.gz May 08 12:28:34 rschuster: and the midpath? May 08 12:29:51 cedric_: I would not mind a patch for the cacao RC. please not that the version number must actually be 0.98+0.99rc5 to be effectively lower than 0.99 May 08 12:30:38 cedric_: midpath 0.3 has not been released yet but I helped guillaume with their build script to make it easier to build it OE May 08 12:30:59 cedric_: I am planning to provide recipes when 0.3 is finished May 08 12:31:37 cedric_: Ideally I would also like to dump 0.1 then because it is so difficult to maintain May 08 12:56:15 is anyone familiar with gcc regression tests? is there a make target that does something like that and is OE makind use of it? May 08 12:57:55 Jin^eLD: you need dejagnu installed, the gcc manual has a chapter on it, we can only run certain tests without a remote machine, pb_ knows more :) May 08 12:58:32 It's a make target. It's very expensive and needs manual run reading of the output in normal operation. May 08 12:58:43 Jin^eLD: http://gcc.gnu.org/install/test.html May 08 12:59:40 zecke: thanks... May 08 12:59:55 well, a customer asked me if the toolchain was tested May 08 13:00:17 so now I am figuring out how to do that and also how to do that automatically within OE May 08 13:01:21 ~lart people resetting computers they shouldn't touch... May 08 13:01:21 * ibot shoots people resetting computers they shouldn't touch... in the head May 08 13:05:36 I'm seeing bitbake trying to download from 'ftp://ftp.jp.kernel.org/pub/pubpub/publinux/pubkernel/pubv2.6/pubtesting/patch-2.6.25-rc4.bz2' May 08 13:05:51 Any ideas why that might be happening (the random additions of pub to directory names) May 08 13:06:01 broonie: show SRC_URI line May 08 13:06:41 ${KERNELORG_MIRROR}/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/patch-2.6.25-rc4.bz2;patch=1 May 08 13:06:51 I'm using EXTRA_OECONF_append_arm to select a configure option May 08 13:07:09 but on the beagle (armv6) I do not want this option May 08 13:08:21 broonie: no idea May 08 13:09:12 Alternatively, can I do a manual download? May 08 13:09:45 zecke: yeah May 08 13:10:43 broonie: you can May 08 13:10:55 broonie: do not forget about adding .md5 file (can be empty) May 08 13:11:03 tmbinc: hey. a friend of mine is searching a dreambox hacker (AFAIK python + neutrino) for a project lasting 3-4 weeks, any idea where to look for such guys? May 08 13:12:04 broonie: HAVE you set $KERNELOR_MIRROR anywhere? May 08 13:12:06 environment? May 08 13:12:10 local.conf? May 08 13:12:13 site.conf? May 08 13:12:36 Nope, and other downloads from kernel.org have worked. May 08 13:13:11 broonie: "bitbake -b recipe -e |grep 2.6.25-rc4"? May 08 13:13:36 This is trying to build for Mainstone, FWIW May 08 13:13:44 hrw: Empty May 08 13:13:54 broonie: Maybe the kernel mirrors are doing some mirroring of their own? May 08 13:14:05 Some intelligent GeoIP based stuff maybe? May 08 13:14:06 zecke: python and neutrino? what a combination ;). What does he search exactly? A developer? May 08 13:14:10 and it doesn't work, yet May 08 13:15:19 Laibsch: The problem is the fact that bitbake is adding pub to the front of every path entry except the file. May 08 13:15:21 tmbinc: oh if this is bogus it is my interpretation. Basicly as far as I know he is searching a developer familar with the dreambox May 08 13:15:26 tmbinc: let me ask again May 08 13:15:34 Laibsch: the fact that it's hitting .jp is due to failling through trying other mirrors. May 08 13:16:34 * Laibsch likes .jp ;-) May 08 13:17:00 great bandwidth but low computer literacy May 08 13:17:30 * Laibsch attributes that in large part to the abyssmal English capabilities of its inhabitants May 08 13:17:35 May 08 13:17:37 tmbinc: ah sorry, no python :) May 08 13:18:19 tmbinc: so a developer with drambox + enigma/neutrino knowledge is needed May 08 13:20:41 Ah, it was a corrupted error message it seems. May 08 13:26:05 * * OE Bug 4237 has been created by broonie(AT)opensource.wolfsonmicro.com May 08 13:26:07 * * Outdated URI for 2.6.25-rc4 May 08 13:26:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4237 May 08 13:26:46 broonie: you do not have r/w? May 08 13:26:59 No, and that's quite possibly a good thing. May 08 13:27:21 Actually, I have root on the wolfson mtn mirror so I guess I have r/w one way or another :) May 08 13:28:18 Where should ipkg bugs be reported? None of the categories in oe bugzilla look sane. May 08 13:33:00 s/ipkg/packages/ bugs? May 08 13:34:50 broonie: ACK, I don't like the current categories, either May 08 13:35:15 They are a bit of a legacy, path-dependency is the best explanation, I guess May 08 13:36:15 My take usually is to report against build when something is wrong with the build process, and distribution when it it more about anything happening on-device May 08 13:36:22 It is not always clear-cut May 08 13:36:28 hrw: a bug in the ipkg package, actually. May 08 13:36:29 But it does not matter too much May 08 13:36:42 broonie: what is it? May 08 13:37:26 broonie: If it is an option, try to use opkg, although that will largely have the same bugs at this point in time May 08 13:40:05 * * OE Bug 4238 has been created by broonie(AT)opensource.wolfsonmicro.com May 08 13:40:07 * * ipkg grammar fix May 08 13:40:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4238 May 08 13:45:20 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * re7c3d150... 10/ (10 files in 5 dirs): anthy: update to 9100e May 08 13:45:50 hm, that wasn't me May 08 13:45:55 ph5? May 08 13:46:36 Laibsch: take a look at the certs May 08 13:47:04 well, I was working on the stuff May 08 13:47:09 But it isn't yet working May 08 13:47:20 Strange May 08 13:48:21 monotone is started to autocommit stuff that has been rotting too long in my queue ;-) May 08 13:48:23 has May 08 13:49:51 I asked ph5 for help with it May 08 13:54:34 * Laibsch just received a mail from ph5 with the title "Re: Anthy" May 08 13:54:41 I guess I should read that ;-) May 08 14:01:41 hi. is *.dsc generation in OE working? May 08 14:02:41 rschuster: no idea, as vivi next time he is around or take a look at the mamona stuff May 08 14:03:21 zecke: yeah I remember having seen something like this but had no idea where May 08 14:04:07 rschuster: http://dev.openbossa.org/mamona/gitweb?p=mamona.git;a=tree;f=classes;h=b29db5487d4620faf0f5f24b70aae936bb3372f1;hb=HEAD May 08 14:05:17 rschuster: http://dev.openbossa.org/mamona/gitweb?p=mamona.git;a=blob;f=classes/sourcedsc.bbclass;h=181e7d063f455413e74cdde5f25fb7217939380a;hb=HEAD looks useful May 08 14:05:28 rschuster: and now vivi just joined :) May 08 14:05:41 :) May 08 14:07:35 vivijim: I want 'sourcedsc.bbclass' in OE (wouldn't naming it package_dsc.bbclass be better. fits package_tar, _rpm, _deb etc). Is that possible? May 08 14:10:10 rschuster: sure, but unfortunately it is not completely ready.... it is kind of read-only sources... because it is not possible to use them to build exactly the same way that OE build the .debs May 08 14:11:24 vivijim: but they do build something comparable? May 08 14:12:15 rschuster: wha are you getting at? May 08 14:12:17 vivijim: did you ever get a chance to look at my suggestion at http://dev.openbossa.org/trac/mamona/ticket/120 ? May 08 14:12:47 trickie I'm going to take a look right now May 08 14:14:26 i tried to get OE patches in the diff etc etc, but my main suggestion is the second last comment May 08 14:14:31 not sure if it is helpful May 08 14:15:07 vivijim: I got a request from a Jalimo user who wants the source packages. you said they would not build exactly the same binary package which I think is sufficient May 08 14:22:38 rschuster: for me it is ok add it and change the name to package_dsc oor whatever... May 08 14:23:52 vivijim: great! May 08 14:23:56 hi henning May 08 14:23:56 hi May 08 14:24:27 woglinde: behold! May 08 14:24:27 NOTE: package midpath-cldc-0.2+0.3svnr251: started May 08 14:24:27 NOTE: package midpath-cldc-0.2+0.3svnr251-r0: task do_build: started May 08 14:24:27 NOTE: package midpath-cldc-0.2+0.3svnr251-r0: task do_build: completed May 08 14:24:27 NOTE: package midpath-cldc-0.2+0.3svnr251: completed May 08 14:28:27 NICE! May 08 14:28:31 good work May 08 14:29:19 Laibsch: there is still a lot to do May 08 14:29:38 midpath-cldc is just the base dependency for all other binaries :) May 08 14:30:57 the file sizes dont differ that much now, but there is no duplication of midpath's build system anymore ... May 08 14:46:59 oe May 08 14:48:09 is kergoth the only admin of this channel? May 08 14:48:18 any other admin, please raise your hand May 08 14:48:45 Laibsch: /msg chanserv info #oe ? May 08 14:49:00 /msg chanserv info #oe May 08 14:49:35 oe May 08 14:49:44 aha May 08 14:50:04 hrw: It's because of this strange dude who just entered May 08 14:50:16 He is mentally sick May 08 14:50:51 and tried to disrupt this channel earlier, I'd like an admin to ban him, but apparently, there is only kergoth May 08 14:51:09 poor Laibsch May 08 14:51:36 get a job kerran May 08 14:51:45 Laibsch: /ignore? May 08 14:51:55 yes, done May 08 14:51:57 still May 08 14:52:27 what a looser May 08 14:52:32 do you admit you're poor, Laibsch? May 08 14:53:13 kergoth: please ban *dclient.hispeed.ch for some time, will you? May 08 14:53:54 laibsch if it personal and he distrub no other please use ignore May 08 14:54:09 yes, done as I said May 08 14:54:15 I still hate it May 08 14:54:19 Laibsch is poor May 08 14:54:20 if he/she dont behave we will call the freeenode admins May 08 14:54:22 It is obviously not a bot May 08 14:54:27 woglinde: did that May 08 14:54:29 last time May 08 14:54:37 But they won't interfere May 08 14:54:57 then ignore it May 08 14:55:26 thank you, woglinde May 08 14:55:28 you are wise May 08 14:55:33 Laibsch is a fool May 08 14:55:39 chainsaw, + cheap flight to .ch :-D May 08 14:57:36 XorA: better get chainsaw in .ch - less problems at airport May 08 14:57:50 hrw: you are wise :-) May 08 14:58:15 maybe he's done it ;-) May 08 14:58:37 damn, he has cheap flights to Edin, I better hide May 08 14:59:09 ;D May 08 14:59:16 XorA: I do? May 08 14:59:41 hrw: there was at least for a while a poznan to prestwick flight AFAIK May 08 15:00:45 http://www.gpia.co.uk/holidayflights/Destinations/default.asp?Destination=POZNAN May 08 15:02:35 ;D May 08 15:02:48 kerran laibsch is no fool May 08 15:03:01 but personal anger should stay out of here May 08 15:03:35 you are ugly May 08 15:03:47 hrw who? May 08 15:03:50 *g* May 08 15:04:12 ok, I apologize May 08 15:06:45 but he really acted like a fool May 08 15:08:45 don't you agree? May 08 15:09:04 nope May 08 15:09:10 wtf? May 08 15:09:15 I cant agree with you in this point May 08 15:09:18 why not? May 08 15:09:22 ah those oldstyle childlish fights on irc May 08 15:09:26 :) May 08 15:09:32 I remember the channel takeovers and stuff like that hehe May 08 15:09:35 hrw you mean news group May 08 15:09:48 hrw: too bad we can't have women mud wrestling on irc :( May 08 15:09:50 on ircnet they will just flood channel with own botnets and watch them fighting May 08 15:09:56 why don't you agree? May 08 15:10:03 laibsch acted like a fool May 08 15:10:06 yeah, IRCNet was fun indeed May 08 15:10:19 kerran do you anything to say about oe? May 08 15:10:24 if not May 08 15:10:31 please stop shouting May 08 15:10:38 I asked you something May 08 15:10:44 /kickban *@* :-D May 08 15:10:49 I answerd you May 08 15:10:52 no May 08 15:11:01 I asked: why don't you agree? May 08 15:11:11 because I know laibsch May 08 15:11:17 even face to face May 08 15:11:29 and thats why I think he is no fool May 08 15:11:32 so why does he act like a fool? May 08 15:11:36 and now stop this please May 08 15:11:38 woglinde: Thanks for defending me, I guess the guy has not stopped May 08 15:11:51 You should heed your own earlier advice and /ignore May 08 15:12:01 kerran: read manual of your irc client please May 08 15:12:04 woglinde: yes, he is no fool. but he acted like one. May 08 15:12:08 kerran: section: private messages May 08 15:12:11 poor hrw May 08 15:12:13 Without kergoth, there is nothing we can do May 08 15:12:18 the good think is that I am master of mental ignore for years May 08 15:12:24 woglinde? May 08 15:12:27 woglinde: so do I May 08 15:12:28 * chouimat|work finds acting like a fool relaxing May 08 15:12:37 don't you agree? May 08 15:12:53 choiumat sure everyone acts like a fool May 08 15:12:57 in some situations May 08 15:13:16 woglinde: mental ignore are easier when you're married ;) May 08 15:13:16 so and now I will enjoy the weather and take a trip with my son May 08 15:13:22 woglinde? May 08 15:14:00 woglinde: good choice May 08 15:14:17 too bad that I cant follow - wife and daughter are 250km from here May 08 15:14:28 woglinde? May 08 15:14:44 a question to those gifted with toolchain knowledge: I have a makefile declaring "-I/usr/include -I/usr/include/SDL -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/SDL" as gcc includes May 08 15:15:02 woglinde? May 08 15:15:25 rschuster: grab a weapon and fix the issue at the root :) May 08 15:15:28 obviously -I/usr/include should not be there. but what about the other entries. are they acceptable for OE or do I need to change this upstream May 08 15:15:31 woglinde? May 08 15:15:40 oh that is too rude as well May 08 15:15:49 rschuster: it should use sdl-config to find the includes May 08 15:15:51 woglinde? May 08 15:16:02 can someone kick the bot? May 08 15:16:04 zecke_: good point May 08 15:16:27 zecke_: sdl has .pc these days. do we have that in OE already? May 08 15:16:37 poor chouimatwork May 08 15:16:55 rschuster: no idea, I just remember using the clue-bat for sdl-config quite often :) May 08 15:17:05 woglinde? May 08 15:17:28 rschuster: any path outside of builddir is evil May 08 15:17:38 woglinde? May 08 15:18:05 hrw: ok May 08 15:18:22 woglinde? May 08 15:18:34 any hand-waving for include files is bad May 08 15:18:41 woglinde? May 08 15:19:10 poor kerran... no one wants to talk with him... May 08 15:19:13 woglinde? May 08 15:20:45 woglinde May 08 15:21:15 ok who let a 5 years old in ? May 08 15:21:17 is there anyway that the build on os x page can be locked at revision 557 or moved? May 08 15:21:29 woglinde May 08 15:22:01 fenfir: was it spammed? May 08 15:22:06 constantly May 08 15:22:14 3 times in 5 minutes yesterday May 08 15:22:35 woglinde May 08 15:22:39 woglinde May 08 15:22:51 fenfir: wow, and our users are not able to edit wikis :) May 08 15:23:00 woglinde May 08 15:23:01 woglinde May 08 15:23:03 woglinde May 08 15:24:35 fenfir: let me get a password May 08 15:24:41 woglinde May 08 15:24:43 woglinde May 08 15:24:45 woglinde May 08 15:24:53 zecke_: kk May 08 15:24:59 woglinde May 08 15:25:01 woglinde May 08 15:25:04 woglinde May 08 15:25:20 aaaaaaahhhhh the pleasure of enjoy some silence May 08 15:25:35 woglinde May 08 15:25:37 woglinde May 08 15:25:39 woglinde May 08 15:25:42 woglinde May 08 15:25:44 woglinde May 08 15:25:46 woglinde May 08 15:27:06 fenfir: what is the page? May 08 15:27:18 woglinde May 08 15:27:21 woglinde May 08 15:27:24 woglinde May 08 15:27:27 woglinde May 08 15:27:36 http://oe.linuxtogo.org/wiki/BuildOnOSX May 08 15:27:59 woglinde May 08 15:28:02 woglinde May 08 15:28:06 woglinde May 08 15:31:43 fenfir: let's see... May 08 15:31:50 woglinde May 08 15:32:23 \r cool cool May 08 15:32:31 thanks May 08 15:33:22 where can i submit changes? May 08 15:33:30 woglinde May 08 15:33:32 woglinde May 08 15:33:42 enough May 08 15:33:46 /ignore kerran May 08 15:34:02 you did not do that yet? :) May 08 15:34:08 woglinde May 08 15:34:11 woglinde May 08 15:34:15 woglinde May 08 15:35:03 Jin^eLD: he was probably like me expecting something intelligent from him May 08 15:35:41 woglinde May 08 15:35:44 woglinde May 08 15:35:47 woglinde May 08 15:35:52 bad gamble ;) May 08 15:36:05 Jin^eLD: I do other things and look at irc from time to time May 08 15:36:26 Jin^eLD: true but you know "nobody ever lost betting on the depth of human stupidity" May 08 15:36:34 well, me too, but after a couple of repeats it was obvious to get rid of the spam :> May 08 15:36:42 hehe May 08 15:37:15 I wonder why noone besides kergoth has admin rights on the bot May 08 15:37:19 woglinde May 08 15:37:23 would make things in situations like these a little easier May 08 15:37:23 woglinde May 08 15:37:26 woglinde May 08 15:37:30 woglinde May 08 15:37:33 woglinde May 08 15:37:39 Jin^eLD: it is not on a bot but on a network May 08 15:37:43 JineLD sucks May 08 15:38:08 well, I was referring to chanserv May 08 15:38:30 It just goes to show how rarely we have to deal with idiots May 08 15:38:48 hehe May 08 15:38:55 :) May 08 15:39:07 indeed, freenode is nice in that regard May 08 15:39:51 zecke_: Is /home/laibsch/work/tmp/sonkei-0.0.1/staging/i686-linux/usr/bin/uic part of the uicmoc4-native package? May 08 15:40:10 The binary in question is installed without +x in Sonkei May 08 15:40:18 And I am trying to find out why May 08 15:40:34 "bitbake -c rebuild uicmoc4-native" did not fix it May 08 15:46:02 oe May 08 15:46:06 poor Laibsch May 08 15:52:58 laibsch sucks May 08 16:02:12 summatusmentis is a moron May 08 16:02:27 who are you? May 08 16:02:38 I am the devil. you suck May 08 16:06:47 zap is a moron May 08 16:09:50 summatusmentis: kerran got you? May 08 16:10:19 hrw: yeah May 08 16:10:28 /ignore him May 08 16:11:09 hrw: we don't kick trolls? May 08 16:11:23 summatusmentis: we do not have @ May 08 16:11:33 mm, ok May 08 16:19:21 davygravy is a moron May 08 16:29:04 Stunning to think that somebody has *time* for that silliness. wow. May 08 16:29:21 hey HopsNBarley May 08 16:29:31 hi Jin^eLD (-0 May 08 16:30:38 I have to admit I did not try the hdparm settings yet :( just did not get to it May 08 16:34:26 HopsNBarley: It's one of two things May 08 16:34:40 a) time is a commodity in a mental institution May 08 16:34:52 b) bots have gotten significantly more intelligent May 08 16:35:10 Laibsch, i'm torn between the two (-; May 08 16:35:12 either a or b May 08 16:35:16 me too ;-) May 08 16:35:44 Laibsch: btw what did you do to frustrate this guy so much? :) May 08 16:36:22 Jin^eLD: Didn't you see? May 08 16:36:27 NOTHING May 08 16:36:31 like everybody else May 08 16:36:34 he is NOT after me May 08 16:36:41 he is just an ordinary troll May 08 16:36:44 lol May 08 16:36:45 hehe May 08 16:37:07 well, I guess I set /ignore too early May 08 16:37:12 my first encounter: http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23oe/2008/May/20080507_oe.log#[20080507%2001:19:22] May 08 16:37:59 bye May 08 16:38:00 aah, so its a bot anyway May 08 16:45:56 What's the mtn command to see who has worked on a file? May 08 16:48:21 mtn log $path2file|less May 08 16:48:35 you can throw in a " --diffs" May 08 16:49:48 thanks May 08 16:50:16 mtn annotate too May 08 16:50:20 bye ;D May 08 16:53:47 HopsNBarley: Looks like Internet is shut off around 18:30 in Swiss mental institutions ;-) May 08 16:54:01 time for the pills and dinner ;-) May 08 16:54:06 (-8 (-8 (-; haha. May 08 16:54:37 do you guys really believe it was a real person? :> May 08 17:00:18 HopsNBarley and me are really turn between two options May 08 17:00:26 we cannot decide May 08 17:00:31 torn May 08 17:01:32 bbl May 08 18:02:15 re May 08 18:02:29 hi flo May 08 18:03:55 unignore kerran May 08 18:04:59 give me a reason May 08 18:05:08 oops ;-) May 08 18:05:29 Was just trying out the irc commands, sorry. May 08 18:05:34 lol, oh, ok May 08 18:05:50 No reason to unignore indeed! May 08 18:08:10 wtf May 08 18:08:36 http://mojo.handhelds.org/distributions May 08 18:09:10 Ubuntu for ARMv5? May 08 18:09:18 cool May 08 18:09:33 It seems to take half a year to compile ;) May 08 18:09:53 And what do we gain from some ubunto arm feeds? May 08 18:10:15 Ubuntu :) May 08 18:11:39 I've been looking for a pretty interface, mostly May 08 18:11:49 Do they have images somewhere? May 08 18:12:10 ubuntu-embedded than debian-embedded isnt enough May 08 18:13:14 I'm not seeing images May 08 18:15:00 amazing that hh.o uses the same ugly drupal theme ltg uses ;) May 08 18:19:50 hi steliosk May 08 18:19:59 ups May 08 18:20:02 only reconnect May 08 18:21:09 Hello May 08 18:21:35 Is there any way I can make bitbake revert to the previous behaviour where it did nothing with packages already built? May 08 18:21:42 Instead of rebuilding them May 08 18:22:58 Kinda makes building world, um, take a bit longer. May 08 18:23:37 And it's especially annoying when it tries to rebuild packages which I've build and needed manual fixes to the whole building process. May 08 18:27:21 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r771dc60a... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-jlime-jornada6xx_2.6.25.bb): May 08 18:27:21 * Addition of jlime jornada6xx kernel (2.6.25) bb file. May 08 18:27:21 This package grabs sources and config from our git repository May 08 18:27:21 so no subdir is needed. May 08 18:57:50 does anyone here know anything about booting linux on a xlinix xup board? May 08 18:58:39 crofton sorry no May 08 18:58:49 most xilinx are powerpc May 08 18:58:54 yeah May 08 18:58:55 with the fpga's May 08 18:58:58 right May 08 19:01:27 hi May 08 19:01:38 I need to build a 2.4.18 kernel for my collie.... May 08 19:01:48 is that possible with the dev branch? May 08 19:02:00 at least the packages are there... May 08 19:03:38 2.4 for arm is dead May 08 19:03:49 long time dead May 08 19:03:54 ok May 08 19:03:58 I want to build it anway. May 08 19:06:43 I am not a collie expert May 08 19:06:46 but let me see May 08 19:07:32 I need to USE the device... May 08 19:07:37 and 2.6 is not usable. May 08 19:08:05 and anyway, what is wrong with 2.4? May 08 19:08:25 it supports all the built-in hardware plus my wifi card.... May 08 19:08:34 why should I want to use 2.6? May 08 19:09:13 with 2.6 you get some speed efforts May 08 19:09:20 and 2.4.18 has security bugs May 08 19:09:45 So that people can help you? (seriously, there are very few active development projects with the 2.4 kernel, even the router-type-hardware folks are moving to 2.6) May 08 19:10:09 ha ha May 08 19:10:28 so you recommend me to use a software that is not working that people can help me? May 08 19:10:30 loool May 08 19:10:50 whats your hw-device that dont works under 2.6 May 08 19:10:51 I support an ARM 2.4 device, and the biggest issue our users face is that less and less hardware now works with it; even newer USB mass-storage devices are not supported in 2.4 May 08 19:11:11 but to anwser your questions ist not easy to build 2.4 kernel for collie with oe.dev May 08 19:11:19 it is like giving me a car with broken wheels "because everybody knows it" May 08 19:11:51 I tried oe.oz354x May 08 19:11:56 but even that doesn't work. May 08 19:12:06 woglinde, collie May 08 19:12:38 sd support broken and no sound at all May 08 19:13:12 You'll either need to hack it to enable the 2.4 kernel or use an older verison of OE May 08 19:13:24 hm the recipes are okay but distro stuff not May 08 19:13:32 hi RP May 08 19:13:48 rp arent you collie kernel maintainer? May 08 19:14:12 woglinde: No, almost all zaurii but collie May 08 19:14:33 I earned the right not to touch 2.4 may years ago ;-) May 08 19:14:43 hm okay May 08 19:14:56 I discoered that conf/machine/include/collie-2.4.inc is still there May 08 19:15:00 but noboy uses it May 08 19:15:22 It should still work May 08 19:15:39 hm I should wrote a proposal for serval 2.4 recipes to be removed May 08 19:16:06 sharprom-compat needs the zaurus 2.4 ones May 08 19:16:18 perhaps that can also build a suitable kernel? May 08 19:16:21 I've been thinking we should drop old hw from .dev and let people maintain them in the stable branch .... May 08 19:16:27 rp hm maybee you dont under stand May 08 19:16:44 the include isnt used by any file under machine May 08 19:16:55 nor from any kernel recipe May 08 19:17:17 Crofton: Bad idea, they don't cause any harm in .dev and that means it would be the only branch that supported them since they'd be missing in future stable branches May 08 19:17:29 woglinde: hmm :/ May 08 19:17:53 but, we have limited resources for keeping them running May 08 19:18:08 Crofton: it doesn't cost us much to keep the files May 08 19:18:13 I see your point also May 08 19:18:25 hi joerg - from buffalo? :) May 08 19:18:36 hm May 08 19:18:38 wait May 08 19:19:01 Crofton: I understand the attraction of dropping things, it'd make my life easier at times but I think we need to resist the temptation May 08 19:19:06 I am stand right May 08 19:19:23 collie.conf includes zaurus-${MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION}.inc May 08 19:19:44 Timelord0, no, germany :P May 08 19:20:12 and there are only zaurus-2.6 and zausrus-clamshell.inc May 08 19:20:18 ah ok, i know a joerg at buffalo in germany... nm ;) May 08 19:20:39 well, kind of... by way of free kuropro... May 08 19:21:06 * timtimred gos back to sleep.. May 08 19:21:09 what is buffalo? May 08 19:21:15 I thought it is in the US :P May 08 19:21:17 rp, we should keep this in mind though May 08 19:21:23 they make NAS, routers etc May 08 19:21:33 ah, ok, lol May 08 19:21:43 Crofton: We do need better cleanup policy, yes May 08 19:21:47 anyway....I am running collie with OZ 3.5.4.1 now May 08 19:21:54 (hentges ROM) May 08 19:21:57 anyway, I need to clean gutters and mow May 08 19:22:04 I'll be in .ie next week May 08 19:22:04 and the only thing is....I need a new kernel. May 08 19:22:24 the irda stuff is built in May 08 19:22:32 and I wanna use lircd May 08 19:22:46 and I cannot if some ircomm stuff is loaded. May 08 19:23:49 Crofton: I'll wave accross the Irish Sea at you ;-) May 08 19:29:17 woglinde: Don't you dare to remove it May 08 19:29:23 It is used by SharpROM May 08 19:32:09 AFAIK May 08 20:13:38 CoreDump|afk, where is the OE metadata for the hentges roms? link is dead :( May 08 20:34:51 re May 08 20:35:07 joerg: use .oz354x branch if you want 2.4 for collie May 08 20:35:32 joerg: with .dev we abandoned any support for 2.4 on zaurus devices. eot May 08 20:35:46 yes, thanks.... May 08 20:35:47 .oz354x is not maintained but provide working systems for collie/2.4 May 08 20:35:59 but there are some issues with it.... May 08 20:36:04 like qemu doesn't compile May 08 20:36:11 because I have gcc 4 May 08 20:36:12 joerg: and there is no such thing as newer 2.4 kernel for collie May 08 20:36:27 joerg: "apt-get install gcc-3.4" on debian systems May 08 20:36:40 well, I just need to get rid of the irda, ircomm things that are compiled in the "default" 2.4 May 08 20:36:41 "yum install gcc34-compat" on redhat systems May 08 20:36:56 sure, I just did that :) May 08 20:37:05 joerg: well.. then change kernel config and recompile May 08 20:37:34 joerg: and as collie+lirc... irda in zaurus is too weak for Ir control May 08 20:37:50 unless you like to use ir control in <1m range May 08 20:38:00 hmm :( May 08 20:42:10 gm folks May 08 20:42:36 hi ant May 08 20:43:10 woglinde: hello May 08 20:43:37 been very very busy lately...did I miss something big? May 08 20:43:55 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r9fc7b2b9... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux_2.6.24/25: clean up cm-x270 preferred version and make consistent May 08 20:52:04 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * ref36187d... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc_svn.bb): uclibc_svn: add arm_fix_alignment.patch from Poky May 08 20:57:17 cbrake are you there? May 08 20:57:27 you forget to add the arm_fix_alignment.patch May 08 20:57:31 woglinde: Hi May 08 20:57:39 woglinde: thanks -- will do now May 08 20:57:49 afterwards May 08 20:58:06 I will put my unistd.h patch too in the svn version May 08 20:58:15 woglinde: at first sight I misread the new task's name: "do_obscene" instead of "do_setscene" :-@ May 08 21:01:01 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r1a5918b1... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/files/arm_fix_alignment.patch): May 08 21:01:01 uclibc: add missing arm_fix_alignment.patch May 08 21:01:01 should have been included on the last commit May 08 21:01:18 ~lart mtn missing for not showing unknown files May 08 21:01:19 * ibot slaps mtn missing upside the head with a wet fish for not showing unknown files May 08 21:01:38 hehe May 08 21:01:41 it shows May 08 21:01:59 with the right command May 08 21:02:31 woglinde: yeah, I just need to get it through my thick scull -- too much svn and git brain damage I guess ... May 08 21:03:18 woglinde: I was also going to apply this to uclibc 0.9.29, but have not had a chance to build it yet. May 08 21:03:32 woglinde: what does your unistd.h patch do? May 08 21:03:55 fixing unistd.h for arm May 08 21:04:24 rmk has some macros in the kernel headers which the .sh didnt cat May 08 21:04:27 ched May 08 21:04:54 and thats why cacao for example didnt build May 08 21:10:27 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r50ae3742... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc_svn.bb): May 08 21:10:27 uclibc_svn: add unistd_arm.patch May 08 21:10:27 * add the unistd_arm.patch to the svn-recipe too, is not fixed upstream yet May 08 21:10:27 * bump pr May 08 21:11:28 hmm May 08 21:11:40 syntax errors while building the locales with qemu-arm May 08 21:11:56 /usr/share/i18n/locales/iso14651_t1_common:1057: LC_COLLATE: syntax error May 08 21:11:56 /usr/share/i18n/locales/iso14651_t1:7: LC_COLLATE: syntax error May 08 21:11:56 /usr/share/i18n/locales/iso14651_t1:8: LC_COLLATE: syntax error May 08 21:12:15 but it seems to continue anyway May 08 21:13:12 joerg try tu run it with LANG=C May 08 21:13:46 well May 08 21:13:54 I don't know what happens.... May 08 21:14:07 CPU usage is 100% May 08 21:14:13 qemu-arm is running May 08 21:15:43 hm somehere with a glibc setup? May 08 21:16:30 if yes could he please try bitbake -c configure libxine and send me the config.log file? May 08 21:25:13 woglinde: sorry...rebuilding from scratch...later May 08 21:26:19 hm then I will be at sleep May 08 21:26:33 508 of 2327 May 08 21:26:49 NOTE: Running task 508 of 2327 (ID: 2174, May 08 21:27:19 more than an hour I guess...tomorrow May 08 21:27:22 NOTE: Running task 133 of 254 (ID: 121, /home/hrw/devel/OH/git/poky/branches/pinky/meta/packages/qemu/qemu-native_0.9.1.bb, do_compile) May 08 21:27:49 and in emulated machine I have multiple images build... May 08 21:29:49 hrw: will the poky's kernel upgraded for c7x0? May 08 21:30:41 * be upgraded (from you or RP) May 08 21:31:13 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * rf0d37b43... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc_svn.bb): uclibc_svn: fix glitch with double file:// May 08 21:31:23 to 2.6.25? May 08 21:31:30 when we find time May 08 21:31:42 I'm asking: is it worthwhile to jump over .25 ? May 08 21:32:00 .26-rc1 has officially pxa27x_udc May 08 21:32:29 I see, would be only for my C3200 May 08 21:32:37 not for c7x0 May 08 21:32:42 yep May 08 21:32:52 shame May 08 21:33:00 dommage May 08 21:33:55 * ant never understood exactly the subtle meanings of "shame", so I'm giving a second translation May 08 21:38:11 444 joerg 25 0 116m 51m 1152 R 84.6 5.1 4:20.61 qemu-arm May 08 21:38:24 do you think this process will EVER end? May 08 21:50:39 good night May 08 21:58:42 shall I wait? May 08 21:58:45 or kill it? May 08 21:59:26 kill it May 08 21:59:37 kill May 08 21:59:48 bye all May 08 22:20:20 and then? May 08 22:20:23 what do I do then? May 08 22:21:18 giving up? May 08 22:25:33 yes May 08 22:25:36 and go to sleep May 08 22:25:41 like me May 08 22:25:47 ha ha May 08 22:25:52 good night May 08 22:26:24 nite May 09 00:09:38 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rfe78c09c... 10/ (1 packages/images/sdr-image.bb): sdr-image.bb : Add ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL to image. May 09 01:38:17 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r6f9a15eb... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): May 09 01:38:17 python: introduce MAJ_VER variable so that no further changes to a bb file are necessary even with major releases May 09 01:38:17 * applied to python-pygtk and python-gobject May 09 01:38:17 * gnome projects projects host every major release in a separate directory May 09 02:16:05 * * OE Bug 4233 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by May 09 02:16:07 * * trivial bug in org.openembedded.documentation May 09 02:16:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4233 May 09 02:17:40 03Ottavio 07org.oe.documentation * r535e8884... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/common_use_cases.xml): May 09 02:17:40 common_use_cases.xml: add para to two listitems to fix compilation problem reported in bug 4233 May 09 02:17:40 * commit by Laibsch **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 09 02:59:56 2008