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0a460b5fec78fa7ea4965893e9806c11d4163a83 May 15 06:38:01 (59 lines omitted) May 15 06:46:41 Anyone able to help a new oe user out ? May 15 06:49:28 Gadget-Work, just ask and you will find out :) May 15 06:50:01 I'm getting an error running bitback task-base May 15 06:50:36 NOTE: Running task 213 of 798 (ID: 186, /home/oe/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux_2.6.23+2.6.24-rc5.bb, do_fetch) May 15 06:51:09 NOTE: fetch http://kernel.org//pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/patch-2.6.24-rc5.bz2;patch=1 May 15 06:51:22 But the file isn't there...... May 15 06:52:01 I believe the correct location should be May 15 06:52:12 http://kernel.org//pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/v2.6.24/patch-2.6.24-rc5.bz2 May 15 07:04:38 Full output of bitback task-base here: May 15 07:04:43 http://pastebin.ca/1018775 May 15 08:13:54 yo May 15 08:14:17 * ScaredyCat prods XorA|gone May 15 08:40:39 morning May 15 08:43:03 someone know who broke glibc 2.6.1? May 15 08:44:23 * ScaredyCat points wildly May 15 09:10:05 * * OE Bug 4263 has been created by jay4mail(AT)gmail.com May 15 09:10:07 * * gpe-today build fails May 15 09:10:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4263 May 15 09:24:13 fscking monotone May 15 09:24:36 "mtn log . | less" + ctrl-c == better kill monotone instead of waiting May 15 10:23:33 if libssp is disabled in gcc and if avahi needs libssp and pulseaudio doesn't have --disable-avahi how is anyone actually building pulseaudio ? May 15 10:37:11 whats the quick solution to get over this : genext2fs: couldn't allocate a block (no free space) May 15 10:44:06 free some space? May 15 10:46:59 Robwoerle: you install more then image size is set to May 15 10:47:29 i called x11-gpe-image .. tmp/rootfs dir is about 82mb now May 15 11:11:47 morning all May 15 11:13:03 hi thesing May 15 11:46:22 git: error while loading shared libraries: /home/balister/oe/tmp/staging/i686-linux/usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied May 15 11:46:27 Any thoughts? May 15 11:48:41 aliens! May 15 11:49:55 SELinux issue with libcryto May 15 11:55:05 * * OE Bug 3390 has been RESOLVED (REMIND) by May 15 11:55:07 * * zaurusd does not discriminate between "lid was opened" and "headphones removed" May 15 11:55:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3390 May 15 11:55:16 * * OE Bug 2617 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by May 15 11:55:18 * * spitz/akita sound mixer misconfiguration May 15 11:55:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2617 May 15 12:01:07 * * OE Bug 2637 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by May 15 12:01:09 * * fixes to make Sharp CE-RH2 remote working in X May 15 12:01:11 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2637 May 15 12:32:29 small question May 15 12:32:42 someone managed to BUILD glibc 2.6.1 for x86 recently? May 15 12:32:55 .dev DISTRO=angstrom-2008.1 MACHINE=alix here May 15 12:33:10 plainly broken something is May 15 12:33:56 yoda, is that you? May 15 12:36:27 ? May 15 12:38:10 hrw: it built for me not that long ago, will rebuild if you want May 15 12:39:16 no need May 15 12:39:37 I updatedwhat I had to update May 15 13:04:31 hrw: I built glibc-2.6.1 for x86 from a snapshot a couple weeks old May 15 13:20:25 can someone tell me why OE builds initramfs* stuff when I build console-image for machine which boots from ATA hdd directly? May 15 13:20:44 is that one of those paul sokolovsky tricks for his pocketpc toys? May 15 13:54:47 hi mickeyl May 15 13:55:00 heya May 15 13:55:18 back from one-day Berlin May 15 14:52:10 oe May 15 15:00:51 oe May 15 15:05:30 oe May 15 15:07:23 * cbrake wonders why glibc-intermediate builds on my x86 machine and not on the AMD64 May 15 15:07:32 oe May 15 15:10:47 oe May 15 15:11:39 hmm, got bit by LD_LIBRARY_PATH being set May 15 15:11:59 perhaps zecke's fix would take care of things like this May 15 15:12:23 oe May 15 15:12:51 cbrake: sure :) May 15 15:13:32 zecke: are those changes in oe.dev + bitbake 1.8 head yet? May 15 15:14:02 oe May 15 15:14:25 cbrake: not yet, I can build images with them, so they are a good candidate for inclusion May 15 15:14:28 oe May 15 15:17:18 * RP has been meaning to talk to zecke about the various bitbake changes... May 15 15:17:32 oe May 15 15:18:25 RP: SRCPV one would be good to discuss :-) it gives nice end result May 15 15:18:34 oe May 15 15:18:50 XorA: but only works for local repos? May 15 15:18:51 khilman 's problem was a script called "install" in his path May 15 15:18:57 oe May 15 15:19:34 RP: no, the basic change that just means the PV for AUTOREV is the same as the one for SRCREV= May 15 15:20:18 oe May 15 15:30:50 I said oe May 15 15:32:24 oh not the attack of the silly bots again May 15 15:32:32 poor XorA May 15 15:34:16 poor osas May 15 15:35:17 Is it dropping badly? May 15 15:35:24 poor osas May 15 15:35:44 I connect via a dircproxy server and I can't see when it is dropping ... May 15 15:38:34 why May 15 15:38:55 osas: dont talk to the bot May 15 15:39:21 XorA: lol May 15 15:39:52 that was a good one :) May 15 15:41:01 osas sucks May 15 15:41:08 XorA is a moron May 15 15:41:43 mickeyl: your not an admin on this channel be any chance? May 15 15:42:03 unfortunately not May 15 15:42:07 only kergoth ggilbert and apt are... May 15 15:42:12 kergoth needs to raise my level May 15 15:42:14 kergoth: ? May 15 15:42:29 who lives in .ch who owns a big assed gun :-) May 15 15:45:29 lots of swiss guys still have thier guns (and a set of ammunition!) from their army days as they are counted as "reserve" for many years May 15 15:45:48 oe May 15 15:47:02 * RP put the bot on ignore... May 15 15:47:18 oe May 15 15:47:46 heh nice May 15 15:47:58 hey RP May 15 15:48:20 hi Tartarus May 15 15:48:48 poky-image-sato works decently on the N810 :) May 15 15:49:06 Tartarus: great! :) May 15 15:49:38 the Fn key isn't working, but i'm not sure if that's an oddball kernel thing or something else May 15 15:50:17 Tartarus: Probably a keymap issue or something up with the xserver key handling... May 15 15:50:47 yeah May 15 15:51:27 i got the rootfs running from external mmc now, so i'm using the poky kernel and nokia rootfs, but i haven't actually used it much since i did that :) May 15 15:53:48 yeap, keymap May 15 15:54:13 xev installed by default? May 15 15:56:08 Tartarus: poky kernel runs fine with maemo - I use it this way May 15 16:00:55 Tartarus: I can't remember if it is or not offhand May 15 17:00:20 morning **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 15 17:18:19 2008 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 15 17:20:14 2008 May 15 17:57:23 bye guys May 15 17:57:57 gn May 15 18:48:59 any busybox experts around? May 15 18:53:51 ~ask May 15 18:53:52 i heard ask is Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. May 15 18:53:55 :p :D May 15 18:54:19 (sorry mickeyl , I couldn't resist...) May 15 18:54:51 hehe, i expected that :) May 15 18:55:00 and you're right, of course May 15 18:55:38 ok, here's the deal: since a couple of versions (can't remember really), multiple ash logins share one history. This is annoying... err ANNOYING, and I'm looking for a way to stop it doing that. May 15 18:57:37 I hadn't really thought that through, but now that you mention it, it didn't used to do that. May 15 19:04:54 mickeyl: disable history at all or install other shell May 15 19:06:02 hmm May 15 19:06:05 ok May 15 19:06:08 opkg install bash May 15 19:06:38 opkg --extra-locales "zh-cn pt-br ko" install bash May 15 19:06:58 too bad that this is not yet supported ;( May 15 19:08:37 bye May 15 19:09:15 cu May 15 19:11:53 hi robert May 15 19:36:21 Evening all. Are there problems getting to the oe website ? May 15 19:41:44 evidently so. May 15 19:42:14 yep not working here either May 15 19:44:12 K, good job google cached what I need to read May 15 21:01:38 rschuster: I guess thebatmand is missing something ;-) May 15 21:01:48 You committed an empty directory May 15 21:01:56 Laibsch: oh no ... May 15 21:02:02 Hehe May 15 21:02:39 Laibsch: sorry, I was working with svn all day ... May 15 21:03:53 You're excused May 15 21:07:04 hello :) I have a strange issue... I'm writing my own package. When I build it, I get QA errors saying I have .debug files in my install directory May 15 21:07:26 only I'm not adding those .debug directories and can't figure out what is or how to get rid of them May 15 21:07:40 any ideas? May 15 21:09:19 maybe you can specify the debug stuff with FILES to go to the dbg package May 15 21:09:32 the bitbake manual details this iirc May 15 21:10:26 dcordes: thanks for the tip. So if I specific a debug package than any FILES_ I define there are omitted from the base package? May 15 21:11:12 kgilmer_: I think so but I'm really not sure on this. May 15 21:11:22 look at the manual there's a nice explanation I think May 15 21:11:45 In here? http://oe.linuxtogo.org/user-manual May 15 21:33:29 kgilmer_: Have your redefined PACKAGES? May 15 21:37:26 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 15 21:37:26 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 15 21:37:26 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 15 21:37:30 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 15 21:37:33 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 15 21:37:33 I had but I removed it May 15 21:37:36 that seemed to help May 15 21:37:41 if I do not define PACKAGES May 15 21:37:49 but I do specify specific files, it works May 15 21:38:04 if I specify the base directory where my files are, then I get these .debug directories May 15 21:38:40 is there a way to define a negative matching pattern in FILES_? May 15 21:40:16 .debug is always build May 15 21:40:28 if you dont specfiy any packages May 15 21:40:40 bitbake makes is ownchoices May 15 21:41:00 setting up normal dbg dev and doc packages May 15 21:42:23 If I specify PACKAGES = "${PN}" I still get the .debug directories May 15 21:51:28 yeah May 15 21:51:35 you're still gonig to get -dbg, -dev and -doc, iirc May 15 21:51:41 if they would be possible, that is May 15 21:51:56 I think if you turned off debug stuff you wouldn't get it May 15 21:52:01 if you want debug stuff in main files, umm May 15 21:52:13 I _think_ poky has something like that, and it might be standard, even May 15 21:52:20 (bad allergies today, not thinking well) May 15 21:53:00 Tartarus: thanks! Allergies...me too :/ May 15 21:53:08 I'm using Poky actually May 15 21:53:26 k May 15 21:53:30 there are differences in bitbake package files between stock OE and Poky? May 15 21:53:52 # (Some of these are automatically added to certain image types) May 15 21:53:52 # "dbg-pkgs" - add -dbg packages for all installed packages May 15 21:53:52 # (adds symbol information for debugging/profiling) May 15 21:53:57 that'll give you debug stuff in the images May 15 21:54:21 Yeah...it's ok for me to do these packages...but regardless if i build them or not *something* is adding .debug directories in my build output May 15 21:54:29 and then I get QA errors May 15 21:54:35 I found a workaround May 15 21:54:45 yeah May 15 21:54:50 to manually specify *every* file in the FILES_${PN} May 15 21:55:10 like : FILES_${PN} += "/opt/Personal_Profile-phoneme_advanced_mr2_b65-linux_arm_generic-bin-rev10830/bin/cvm \ May 15 21:55:10 /opt/Personal_Profile-phoneme_advanced_mr2_b65-linux_arm_generic-bin-rev10830/lib/btclasses.zip \ May 15 21:55:10 /opt/Personal_Profile-phoneme_advanced_mr2_b65-linux_arm_generic-bin-rev10830/lib/content-types.properties \ May 15 21:55:10 /opt/Personal_Profile-phoneme_advanced_mr2_b65-linux_arm_generic-bin-rev10830/lib/libawtjpeg.so May 15 21:55:30 but if I try to use wildcards i can't seem to omit the .debug directories May 15 21:55:36 I'd prefer to just remove them May 15 21:55:59 Well, are you going for no debug symbols, or debug symbols in the main package? May 15 21:56:12 no debug symbols May 15 21:56:23 I mean I'm not there yet. I'm just trying to get it to work right now :) May 15 21:56:35 I'm not passing any debug flags to my target GNUmakefile May 15 21:57:06 right May 15 21:57:07 but.. May 15 21:57:29 4../../meta/conf/bitbake.conf:DEBUG_OPTIMIZATION = "-O -fno-omit-frame-pointer -g" May 15 21:57:45 so if you have a build of debug type (rather than release) you'll get that on all packages built May 15 21:58:03 or rather... May 15 21:58:09 ################################################################## May 15 21:58:09 # Optimization flags. May 15 21:58:09 ################################################################## May 15 21:58:09 FULL_OPTIMIZATION = "-fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-reg May 15 21:58:09 isters -O2" May 15 21:58:10 DEBUG_OPTIMIZATION = "-O -fno-omit-frame-pointer -g" May 15 21:58:12 SELECTED_OPTIMIZATION = "${@bb.data.getVar(['FULL_OPTIMIZATION', 'DEBUG_OPTIMIZATION'][bb.data.getVar('DEBUG_BUILD', d, 1) == '1'], d, 1)}" May 15 21:58:15 BUILD_OPTIMIZATION = "-O2" May 15 21:58:15 args May 15 21:58:23 ~pastebin May 15 21:58:23 [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste May 15 21:59:00 interesting May 15 21:59:39 ah, I see May 15 22:00:03 Ok, now I understand where the .debug/ is coming from May 15 22:00:09 thanks May 15 22:26:13 Tartus and woglinde, thanks for your help :) May 15 22:26:24 kgilmer no problem May 15 22:26:51 I have almost our entire stack running from a OE build now. May 15 22:27:06 so much better than what we had before. May 15 22:27:26 heading out...cheers May 15 22:55:39 so for monotone the 'database' is something like a copy of the head rev or does it also contain history? May 15 22:57:20 it's everything, so yes history May 15 22:57:29 you can do something like mtn log file --diffs | less May 15 22:57:37 and see who did what when and what it was they did May 15 22:57:37 so comparing to svn - its the entire repo May 15 22:57:56 well May 15 22:58:06 where as svn doesn't give you the server, it gives you a checkout May 15 22:58:12 vs svn's notion of keeping the repo on the net somewhere and only holding the last sync'd rev on your local filesystem May 15 22:58:14 an mtn db could be served May 15 22:58:21 right May 15 22:59:29 ok, so if I'm trying to pull down an OE tree that someone modified (to see what they modified) and I know the revision from _MTN/revision - I would do something like: mtn -db=OE.mtn co -b org.openembedded.dev --revision= oe-thatrev May 15 22:59:57 yeah May 15 23:00:52 mnt db holds all branches too right? May 15 23:01:14 so is key and revision synonymous? May 15 23:03:45 yes to 2nd May 15 23:03:48 kinda to 1st May 15 23:03:58 the DB can hold multiple branches May 15 23:04:08 I don't quite understand it May 15 23:04:14 but for the stable branch, I have to manually pull that May 15 23:05:07 so a mtn db also references a server to pull latest from? May 15 23:06:20 a default parent, yes May 15 23:06:27 and i think branches to pull May 15 23:06:39 i'm not an mtn person 'tho, so please double check what I say :) May 15 23:07:15 heh... you know more than me :) May 15 23:09:37 so I'm looking at a BSP that is based off OE. Looks like they took a snapshot of the OE tree at a point in time, then tweaked some files in it - seems like thats the wrong way to do it right? I would think that you would instead put create a tree of your additions/overrides and put your tree first in BBPATH and leave the oe snapshot untouched? May 15 23:10:02 the tree is never 100% working at all times May 15 23:10:18 well, 2nd May 15 23:10:20 so to preserve functionality you have to use a working snapshot May 15 23:10:25 but that's how we roll here May 15 23:10:28 untouched OE May 15 23:10:34 overlay with our fixes and enhancements May 15 23:10:47 i've broken some of my build just by doing a sync May 15 23:10:47 that leaves things nicely separated too when it's time to push stuff back May 15 23:10:54 but hey thats what the dev branch is about May 15 23:11:51 heh... your saying pull down a snapshot and modify it, don't try to keep a separate tree. For example, if I want to add some machine def's that are private and don't belong in the oe tree, I shouldn't keep them in a local/conf/machine tree? May 15 23:12:04 vs oe-snapshot/conf/machien May 15 23:12:18 Well, it all depends May 15 23:12:22 We use svn internally May 15 23:12:30 you can keep them whereever you want, just make sure you do the file tracking on it May 15 23:12:32 So having another overlay is very easy and logical for our setup May 15 23:12:57 Tartarus, do you svn the entire OE snapshot? May 15 23:12:57 I have the org. tree and then a com.blah tree for all my personal stuff May 15 23:13:10 tharvey, nope, OE.mtn and a script to check out the correct rev May 15 23:13:12 Fique, thats more along the lines of what I'm thinking... May 15 23:13:19 sticking an OE checkout into SVN sucks due to all of the files May 15 23:13:31 exactly... didn't want to go there May 15 23:13:42 i actually svn all the sources May 15 23:13:47 and svn my personal adds May 15 23:13:56 One of my things was I really didn't want to get to be an mtn guru and have to teach other people here how to use it well too May 15 23:14:05 but only cause its faster to get source internally than internet May 15 23:14:06 thats what I was thinking... a script that pulls down a specific revision (but as mtn is not svn guess you need to rev control OE.mtn too right?) May 15 23:14:32 tharvey, RC'ing OE.mtn is easier on your users May 15 23:14:44 I started out not doign that, but other people complained about having to get the db from somewhere May 15 23:14:49 so I just stuck it into svn too May 15 23:14:49 I don't want to deal with mtn really... May 15 23:15:09 then you want to do all of your work in an overlay May 15 23:15:15 the environ that I ship to my other internal devs is based on a chrooted environ May 15 23:15:28 I have an isntall script that pulls an entire OE snapshot May 15 23:15:39 with sources May 15 23:15:54 all build files for OE too May 15 23:16:00 so basically a mini comp in svn May 15 23:16:21 dev just chroots into the "build" environ and uses OE as usual May 15 23:16:51 because OE.mtn contains all history, I suppose you don't have to RC that but like your saying, then it has to be pulled down (although you don't care what snapshot they get as long as it contains the rev you consider stable) May 15 23:17:13 yeah just depends on what your group of devs feel is acceptable practice May 15 23:18:05 In the past I've used svn to control 'changes' to a large tree and found it to be really difficult to merge in updates to that upstream tree May 15 23:18:29 you could svn the OE db May 15 23:18:37 bleh.. May 15 23:18:42 nm actually May 15 23:20:39 so if you don't specify a db for mtn (mtn --db=) what does it look for by default? May 15 23:21:01 an mtn checkout in $PWD May 15 23:22:32 ah... ok so if you want to do a checkout you have to specify a db to checkout from, and thats going to be a local file vs a network server May 15 23:24:07 certainly local file, never heard/tried/thought of a remote uri May 15 23:24:12 (for checkout) May 15 23:25:59 so 'mtn --db=OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev' updates OE.mtn with changes from server monotone.openembedded.org just from org.openembeded.dev branch? May 15 23:26:39 yes May 15 23:27:46 and if you had a working directory you could cd into it and do a 'sync org.openembedded.dev org.openembedded.dev' which will update your working dir but 'not' the db you did the checkout from? May 15 23:30:22 mranostay, don't ask me :) May 15 23:30:24 ga May 15 23:32:07 so commit will commit changes from a working dir back to the mtn db, which you could then use 'mtn push' to push push those changes back to monotone.openembedded.org? May 15 23:44:39 so... back to OE: I'm trying to follow the simple GettingStarted by building angstrom-2008.1 console-image image and bitbake fails trying to get http://downloads.sleepycat.com/db-4.3.29.tar.gz May 15 23:45:15 I assume this is a common issue - a required source for a package has changed or gone away - so I'm trying to track back to see what required it and fix that May 15 23:46:18 (I should mention that I'm NOT working off the latest OE.mtn database... I'm working off a BSP's snapshot - so I'm not complaining about a broken OE - I'm trying to understand how to figure out whats broken in this snapshot) May 15 23:47:16 I see where the db package is defined (packages/db/db_4.3.29.bb) but what I'm trying to learn is how db gets included in console_image May 15 23:53:16 tharvey: bitbake -g will output the dependency graph; you can examine this to see what/why db is included. May 15 23:56:28 perfect thanks! May 15 23:58:24 note that you might want to use vizgraph or whatever its called to view May 15 23:58:29 it's a bit hard as text :) May 15 23:59:28 vizgraph? not familiar with that... something for bitbake or OE or an external node graphing app? May 15 23:59:44 graphviz? May 15 23:59:54 graphviz - rich set of graph drawing tools May 16 00:00:07 bitbake -g gives .dot files, that graphviz parses into nice pictures May 16 00:00:14 ahh... thanks May 16 00:03:14 so when you build an image do all packages get built regardless of if they are included in the image? Or that depends on what packages the distro wants to make 'available' via ipk's vs whats in the root fs? May 16 00:03:45 building the image builds only the things that go into it May 16 00:03:48 and the thigns it depends on May 16 00:05:49 Fique, were you saying that you svn the 'sources' meaning the sources that are downloaded as opposed to the OE tree? May 16 00:08:40 Hi all, I tried booting my first freshly compiled x11-gpe-image on my dell axim x50v. Haret seems to load the kernel, and then I see a few console messages. The last thing I see is "Jumping to the kernel" and then nothing else happens. I have to reboot at this point. Any ideas? May 16 00:09:47 gotta run... I'll be back tomorrow with more questions :P May 16 01:10:49 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 16 01:10:49 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 16 01:14:49 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 16 01:14:49 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 16 01:14:49 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 16 01:14:49 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 16 01:14:54 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 16 02:40:04 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 16 02:40:04 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 16 02:40:04 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1eb23b40... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-{dm7025,dm800}: add dvbapi pilot/rolloff extension May 16 02:40:08 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r2e38a9a9... 10/ (1 packages/classpath/classpath-native_0.97.1.bb): disapproval of revision '3607c00052ba968a5052e6b5f44f6cb522a38d8b' May 16 02:40:11 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r57cc0ea5... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): May 16 02:40:13 docbook-utils 0.6.13: Recipe does not compile, obsoleted by 0.6.14. May 16 02:40:15 docbook-utils-native 0.6.14: Recipe does not compile, obsoleted by 0.6.14. May 16 02:40:17 preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: Prefer docbook-utils[-native] 0.6.14. May 16 02:42:02 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r5fdefb8b... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add zhone May 16 02:42:03 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r73a23186... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-omap2 git: bump to 2.6.26rc2, add patch to fix boot on beagleboard May 16 02:42:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0c6f4fed... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-omap2_git.bb): linux-omap2 git: bump SRCREV to use upstream version of patches May 16 02:42:09 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rcf37c9ac... 10/ (1 packages/dsplink packages/dsplink/dsplink_1.50.bb): May 16 02:42:11 dsplink : Skeleton for building TI ARM/DSP for omap/davinci processors. May 16 02:42:13 Requires manual download of tarball from TI website at this time. May 16 02:42:50 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r74fb0251... 10/ (1 packages/dsplink/dsplink_1.50.bb): dsplink : Add URL for manual source download. May 16 02:42:50 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r8ff07518... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): dsplink : Add basic config files created by interactive config utility. May 16 02:42:50 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r92366ccb... 10/ (1 packages/dsplink/dsplink_1.50.bb): dsplink : Install files in build source tree. May 16 02:42:56 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc4f0fa81... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux: make alix use 2.6.25 kernel May 16 02:42:58 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r12863abb... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): linux-omap2 git: add patch to undo merge damage and drop patches that were upstreamed May 16 02:43:01 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2619abe3... 10/ (1 packages/dsplink/dsplink_1.50.bb): dsplink: add url to manual dsplink download May 16 02:43:04 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r98d4b3dd... 10/ (1 classes/oestats-client.bbclass): oestats-client.bbclass: initial version of an oe-specific tinderbox tool May 16 02:43:07 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8e5bee62... 10/ (1 packages/dsplink/dsplink_1.50.bb): dsplink: start filling in the skeleton some more May 16 02:43:10 03bluelightning 07org.oe.dev * ra10fdcce... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): May 16 02:43:12 libopie/qte: fix cursor key rotation on spitz. Closes 3678. May 16 02:43:14 * commit from Laibsch May 16 02:43:50 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5a2c2dc8... 10/ (1 packages/dsplink/dsplink_1.50.bb): dsplink: activate module build May 16 02:43:50 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * rc827a7af... 10/ (1 classes/java-library.bbclass classes/java.bbclass): May 16 02:43:50 java-library.bbclass: Default implementation for do_install/do_stage. May 16 02:43:50 java.bbclass: Added oe_makeclasspath function. May 16 02:43:51 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * rb4590441... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): May 16 02:43:53 libmatthew 0.5: Recipe cleanup. May 16 02:43:55 dbus-java 2.3: Recipe cleanup, fixed do_stage function name. May 16 02:43:57 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * rb0ae8d7e... 10/ (1 packages/batmand): batmand: New recipe. May 16 02:43:59 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r47b76447... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): batmand 0.3: New recipe (this time for real). May 16 02:44:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdacf750b... 10/ (8 files in 2 dirs): gcc-cross 4.2.2, 4.3.0, csl 2008q1: enable libssp and teach gcc-package-cross.inc to package it May 16 02:44:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6d039e9b... 10/ (10 files in 4 dirs): May 16 02:44:51 dsplink: make files generic and use sed to make it more specific May 16 02:44:51 * sed is awesome May 16 02:44:51 (4 lines omitted) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 16 02:59:57 2008