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Jun 05 07:43:18 <CIA-24> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re7fc5727... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
Jun 05 07:43:18 <CIA-24> angstrom-2008: switch to libtool 2.2.4 and gcc 4.2.4
Jun 05 07:43:18 <CIA-24> * as indicated on the angstrom-devel mailinglist: this needs a full rebuild
Jun 05 07:46:23 <ilovebitbake> hi folks!
Jun 05 07:46:48 <ilovebitbake> is any oe expert in the arena?
Jun 05 07:50:16 <jeremy_laine> RP: ping?
Jun 05 07:51:33 <jeremy_laine> RP: linux-rp-2.6.25+2.6.26-rc4/./sharpsl-rc-r2.patch not found.
Jun 05 07:55:00 <hrw> morning
Jun 05 07:55:09 <jeremy_laine> hi!
Jun 05 07:55:10 <ilovebitbake> I do have a problem with a "cached" recipe...
Jun 05 07:55:18 <hrw> ilovebitbake: describe?
Jun 05 07:55:42 <ilovebitbake> bitbake always complains about ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-mwr:
Jun 05 07:55:42 <ilovebitbake> |        pulseaudio
Jun 05 07:56:08 <ilovebitbake> but pulseaudio is not contained in the recipe anymore...
Jun 05 07:56:13 <ilovebitbake> Ideas?
Jun 05 07:56:37 <oxo> it is a dependency of something which is included in your recipe
Jun 05 07:56:41 <hrw> in building image?
Jun 05 07:57:11 <ant|work> good morning
Jun 05 07:57:16 <hrw> hi ant
Jun 05 07:57:28 <ant|work> hrw: hey
Jun 05 07:58:24 <ant|work> jeremy_laine: could you pls look at oebugs 4345 & 4346 ? Was discussing with Laibsch some days ago.
Jun 05 07:58:31 <hrw> !oebug 4345
Jun 05 07:58:32 <cdbot2> * * Bug 4345, Status: NEW, Created: 2008-05-30 17:41
Jun 05 07:58:32 <hrw> !oebug 4346
Jun 05 07:58:33 <cdbot2> * * andrea.adami(AT)gmail.com: RFE: display QA_LOGS
Jun 05 07:58:34 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4345
Jun 05 07:58:35 <cdbot2> * * Bug 4346, Status: NEW, Created: 2008-05-30 17:45
Jun 05 07:58:37 <cdbot2> * * andrea.adami(AT)gmail.com: oestats pagination of Build Information
Jun 05 07:58:39 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4346
Jun 05 07:58:59 <ilovebitbake> hrw: yes, i inherited a devel-image-nand in my own .bb and added some additional stuff
Jun 05 07:59:45 <jeremy_laine> for #4346, what exactly is the issue?
Jun 05 08:00:06 <ilovebitbake> hrw: later I took some of these packages out of my .bb - but bitbake always complains about this pulseaudio thing
Jun 05 08:01:19 <jeremy_laine> ant|work: do you have a screenshot?
Jun 05 08:01:40 <ant|work> jeremy_laine: the "Build Informtion" exceeds the right margin. I'll provide some shots.
Jun 05 08:02:06 <hrw> ilovebitbake: show your recipes
Jun 05 08:02:09 <jeremy_laine> ant|work: ok, attach them to the bug
Jun 05 08:02:22 <jeremy_laine> ant|work: for 4345, where are QA logs stored?
Jun 05 08:02:41 <jeremy_laine> ant|work: if they are in files, it should be straightforward to upload them
Jun 05 08:03:01 <jeremy_laine> ant|work: if it's output of python code it's a bit trickier
Jun 05 08:03:26 <ilovebitbake> hrw:DESCRIPTION = "Tools and applications useful for debugging and development"
Jun 05 08:03:26 <ilovebitbake> PR="r3"
Jun 05 08:03:26 <ilovebitbake> inherit task
Jun 05 08:03:26 <ilovebitbake> PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}"
Jun 05 08:03:26 <ilovebitbake> DEPENDS = "virtual/kernel"
Jun 05 08:03:27 <ilovebitbake> RDEPENDS = "\
Jun 05 08:03:29 <ilovebitbake>     tcl \
Jun 05 08:03:31 <ilovebitbake>     btscanner \
Jun 05 08:03:33 <ilovebitbake>     blueprobe \
Jun 05 08:03:35 <ilovebitbake>     bluez-utils \
Jun 05 08:03:37 <ilovebitbake>     dhclient \
Jun 05 08:03:39 <ilovebitbake>     avahi-autoipd \
Jun 05 08:03:41 <ilovebitbake>     avahi \
Jun 05 08:03:43 <ilovebitbake>     mc \
Jun 05 08:03:45 <ilovebitbake>     "
Jun 05 08:04:48 <ilovebitbake> hrw:require devel-image-nand.bb
Jun 05 08:04:49 <ilovebitbake> IMAGE_INSTALL += "task-mwr"
Jun 05 08:04:49 <ilovebitbake> # IMAGE_FSTYPES += "tar.gz"
Jun 05 08:04:49 <ilovebitbake> IMAGE_BASENAME = "devel-image-mwr"
Jun 05 08:04:49 <ilovebitbake> # FEED_URIS=" \
Jun 05 08:04:58 <hrw> fuck
Jun 05 08:05:04 <hrw> ~pastebin
Jun 05 08:05:08 <ibot> [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste
Jun 05 08:05:29 <ilovebitbake> hrw: SORRY! :-)
Jun 05 08:06:26 <ant|work> jeremy_laine: screenshot attached to 4346
Jun 05 08:06:31 <hrw> ilovebitbake: show task-mwr as there is a problem rather
Jun 05 08:06:35 <ilovebitbake> hrw: my devel-image: http://pastebin.com/d7c8b3ea4
Jun 05 08:07:23 <jeremy_laine> ant|work: I am not exactly a CSS wizard, so if by playing with firebug you come up with a solution I'd be happy to look at it :)
Jun 05 08:07:32 <ilovebitbake> hrw: my task with the additional packages: http://pastebin.com/m7a15e04f
Jun 05 08:08:04 <ilovebitbake> help
Jun 05 08:08:19 <RP> jeremy_laine: pong
Jun 05 08:08:36 <RP> jeremy_laine: That patch doesn't exist and isn't needed, I'll remove the reference
Jun 05 08:09:12 <jeremy_laine> RP: ok, for now I've commented it out in my local recipe
Jun 05 08:09:57 <RP> jeremy_laine: I have the change locally, I'd just forgotten to commit :/
Jun 05 08:10:03 <hrw> ilovebitbake: hard to see
Jun 05 08:11:56 <CIA-24> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd3348213... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): ipkg-utils*: re-enable size field in packages (from openmoko)
Jun 05 08:12:55 <ilovebitbake> hrw: how can I figure out (in a interactive way) where the pulseaudio dependency comes from?
Jun 05 08:13:12 <ilovebitbake> hrw: it looks like a problem with caching?
Jun 05 08:14:06 <ant|work> jeremy_laine: the QA logs are just like other log files, plain text
Jun 05 08:16:11 <hrw> brb
Jun 05 08:21:22 <ilovebitbake> hrw: what means brb?
Jun 05 08:21:52 <XorA> be right back
Jun 05 08:22:03 <CIA-24> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r21285f27... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): e-wm: sync with openmoko
Jun 05 08:22:56 <ilovebitbake> XorA: thanks...
Jun 05 08:29:59 <ilovebitbake> hrw: thank you very much - I just solved the problem through this command:- bitbake -b task-mwr.bb -f -c clean
Jun 05 08:31:12 <CIA-24> 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r9d03a88a... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.25+2.6.26-rc4.bb): linux-rp-2.6.25+2.6.26-rc4: Remove unneeded patch
Jun 05 08:31:44 <zecke> moin
Jun 05 08:32:09 <RP> hi zecke 
Jun 05 09:01:28 <oxo> hmm
Jun 05 09:01:43 <oxo> I keep getting these errors on a fresh angstrom/oe build:
Jun 05 09:01:44 <oxo> usr/bin/m4:configure.ac:1376: recursion limit of 1024 exceeded, use -L<N> to change it
Jun 05 09:02:00 <zecke> oxo: what do you build?
Jun 05 09:02:11 <oxo> 'task-base'
Jun 05 09:02:25 <oxo> more specific: rsync and/or quagga
Jun 05 09:02:45 <zecke> oxo: that is org.oe.dev?
Jun 05 09:02:46 <oxo> because quagga was failing yesterday with these error, I decided to remove tmp and re-run. Now it fails on rsync
Jun 05 09:02:49 <oxo> yes
Jun 05 09:04:10 <zecke> oxo: http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=commit;h=f4596636e1f73b4570b4f0c0dfecc1219aa61a8d, try setting PREFERRED_VERSION?
Jun 05 09:04:35 <oxo> k, will try
Jun 05 09:05:14 <CIA-24> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2470ee9b... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-4.3.0.inc packages/gcc/gcc-cross_4.3.0.bb): gcc* 4.3.0: --enable-cheaders=c_std
Jun 05 09:05:15 <zecke> e.g. PREFERRED_VERSION_m4-native = "1.4.8"
Jun 05 09:05:44 <zecke> but you also need t clean the old m4-native and build the new one
Jun 05 09:07:44 <zecke> oxo: also looking at line 1376 of configure.ac in the rsync source directory would be good as well
Jun 05 09:08:05 <oxo> k, /me is going to try all of this
Jun 05 09:08:40 <oxo> will take some time, because I also updated my tree and it wants to rebuild a lot of stuff
Jun 05 09:09:22 <zecke> thanks
Jun 05 09:30:37 * ant|work sees linuxtogo.org struggling....please feed the hamster
Jun 05 09:30:53 <CIA-24> 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r0636d241... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc): preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: Set classpath-native preference to 0.96.1
Jun 05 09:41:02 <florian_> ant|work: Its backup day ;)
Jun 05 09:43:27 <markus> How do i prevent every locale being built? I just want english, not every language in the world. They are overflowing my repository.
Jun 05 09:44:31 <florian_> markus: GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = "en_GB.UTF-8" e.g.
Jun 05 09:44:44 <florian_> Put that in your local.conf
Jun 05 09:44:53 * florian_ shoots freenode
Jun 05 09:45:15 <hrw> florian is taken?
Jun 05 09:45:20 <markus> florian_kc: thanks!
Jun 05 09:46:10 <florian_kc> hrw: Something is wrong... /ns ghost fails for some reason as well as ident.
Jun 05 09:48:05 <hrw> autoidentified I am..
Jun 05 09:48:21 <oxo> hmm
Jun 05 09:48:29 <oxo> could it be that automake 1.10 is broken?
Jun 05 09:49:00 <oxo> it fails on grub, google tells me that it needs a specific fix to make automake `recent' work with grub
Jun 05 09:49:35 <florian> Ah, here we go... 
Jun 05 09:50:43 <ant|work> florian: I dunno, perhaps a server FARM could generate enough watt...http://www.planetandy.com/hamsterpower.html
Jun 05 09:51:16 <florian> ant|work: hehe
Jun 05 09:51:38 <florian> I fugured out that we just need a second CPU
Jun 05 09:51:56 <florian> hup... I hope everyone understands what I mistype ;)
Jun 05 09:54:27 <hrw> florian: and second/third GB of ram
Jun 05 09:54:59 <florian> hrw: yep
Jun 05 09:55:01 <ant|work> florian: you buy two, after a few weeks they'll be 2^n
Jun 05 09:56:03 <florian> ant|work: I tried this already - works with hamsters, but not with CPUs ;-) Tied this with a bunch of SGI Indigo here already ;)
Jun 05 11:52:05 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4359 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
Jun 05 11:52:07 <cdbot2> * * glibc-2.6.1-autobuild
Jun 05 11:52:09 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4359
Jun 05 11:53:06 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4358 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
Jun 05 11:53:08 <cdbot2> * * gcc-cross-4.1.1-autobuild
Jun 05 11:53:10 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4358
Jun 05 11:54:06 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4358 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by <koen>
Jun 05 11:54:08 <cdbot2> * * gcc-cross-4.1.1-autobuild
Jun 05 11:54:10 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4358
Jun 05 11:54:18 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4359 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by <koen>
Jun 05 11:54:20 <cdbot2> * * glibc-2.6.1-autobuild
Jun 05 11:54:22 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4359
Jun 05 11:57:18 <XorA> bollocks, my USB appears to have dissapeared up its own arse
Jun 05 12:26:59 <mattaw> silly question, but is it the tasks/ dir that holds the information on what gets included in the root filesystem? I am having trouble persuading oe to install a couple of kernel modules into the root fs by default, although it is building the correct ipks
Jun 05 13:03:35 <CIA-24> 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r5530b3d1... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gpe-conf: Add patch to make shutdown work in Angstrom
Jun 05 13:03:39 <CIA-24> 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r1eef1e73... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf-0.2.7/poweroff.patch): gpe-conf: add patch file
Jun 05 13:51:56 <Laibsch> florian: Does your latest commit fix bug 1831?
Jun 05 13:52:20 <florian> ~oebug 1831
Jun 05 13:53:05 <Laibsch> !oebug 1831
Jun 05 13:53:07 <cdbot2> * * Bug 1831, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-01-30 09:52
Jun 05 13:53:08 <cdbot2> * * andrew.paulsen(AT)gmail.com: gpe-dm hangs during shutdown
Jun 05 13:53:09 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1831
Jun 05 13:58:05 <florian> Laibsch: No, that's completely unrelated. 
Jun 05 13:58:19 <Laibsch> OK
Jun 05 13:58:52 <florian> Laibsch: In fact I have never seen a problem like this nor have an idea why this script should fail unless the framebuffer driver is totally broken.
Jun 05 14:11:04 <pb_> that linux-kernel thread linked from the bug does seem to suggest that the kernel fb driver was indeed completely broken in some versions.
Jun 05 14:11:30 <florian> pb_: ah, that explains why this failed.
Jun 05 14:11:31 <pb_> if that's the case, you just need a better kernel.
Jun 05 14:12:02 <pb_> florian: apparently some crazy kernel dude changed the write() semantics to return 0 rather than -ENOSPC when you reach the end of the framebuffer, so dd would keep on trying to write forever.
Jun 05 14:12:17 <pb_> it looks like that change was reverted again in some later version though.
Jun 05 14:12:27 <florian> pb_: eeks
Jun 05 14:12:58 * florian just noticed that his cool device control dialog looks ugly with matbox and vga screen
Jun 05 14:13:43 <pb_> heh
Jun 05 14:17:15 <florian> Unluckily my job would be to make audio on this device work
Jun 05 14:22:21 <hrw> ~curse linux>2.6.24 for non-removable usb removable devices
Jun 05 14:22:22 <ibot> May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, linux>2.6.24 for non-removable usb removable devices !
Jun 05 14:22:35 <hrw> 16:21 hrw@home:.libs$ LC_ALL=C pmount sdg1
Jun 05 14:22:35 <hrw> Error: device /dev/sdg1 is not removable
Jun 05 14:22:48 <hrw> and /dev/sdg1 is pendrive in usb port...
Jun 05 14:38:06 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4360 has been created by dkm(AT)kataplop.net
Jun 05 14:38:08 <cdbot2> * * dbus-1.2.1-r2 on h500/glibc/angstrom needs expat
Jun 05 14:38:09 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4360
Jun 05 14:41:17 <T0mW`gone> what are the current versions of bitbake and monotone?  I have bitbake v1.8.11  and monotone v0.38
Jun 05 14:42:08 <T0mW> I get this funky error when bitbake runs the parse: ${@base_get_metadata_monotone_revision(d)}
Jun 05 14:42:30 <hrw> T0mW: 0.40 monotone is latest iirc
Jun 05 14:42:38 <T0mW> ah, thank you.
Jun 05 14:47:36 <T0mW> odd, I get the same error about not finding the metadata for the monotone revision.
Jun 05 14:49:04 <T0mW> this is my error that bitbake dumps after parsing the packages: http://rafb.net/p/NozlYE68.html
Jun 05 15:24:06 <florian> lrg: Is there a soc ac97 sound framework driver for the wm9705?
Jun 05 15:24:11 <woglinde> hi
Jun 05 15:24:21 <woglinde> hehe florian found some time for gpe
Jun 05 15:24:34 <florian> woglinde: a few minutes... 
Jun 05 15:24:39 <woglinde> *g*
Jun 05 15:40:30 <udovdh> hello
Jun 05 15:42:28 <florian> hi udovdh 
Jun 05 15:42:43 <udovdh> anyone here saw my QA post?
Jun 05 15:42:55 <udovdh> and hi florian 
Jun 05 15:43:10 * florian did not have time to read mailinglists so far
Jun 05 15:45:42 <udovdh> it is this bug, florian  http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4348
Jun 05 16:07:39 <Khem> console-image does not pull in libstdc++
Jun 05 16:07:45 <Khem> into the image
Jun 05 16:08:00 <Khem> for me anyone seen that happening
Jun 05 16:08:29 <woglinde> hi khem
Jun 05 16:08:50 <woglinde> khem hm it has no real dep
Jun 05 16:09:05 <woglinde> hi ph5
Jun 05 16:09:21 <pH5> hi woglinde
Jun 05 16:09:51 <Khem> woglinde: hmmm ok I should create one to force it
Jun 05 16:09:55 <Khem> in my image
Jun 05 16:11:27 <woglinde> khem IMAGE_INSTALL = 
Jun 05 16:24:13 <hrw> bye
Jun 05 16:28:14 <woglinde> bye hrw
Jun 05 16:33:12 <lrg> florian: afaik, yes. can you send me email with details as I'm about to leave soon...
Jun 05 16:34:16 <florian> lrg: ok thaks will do... I just fond that there is somethign in the linux-mobile tree as well. I'll take a look there too.
Jun 05 16:34:50 <woglinde> hm is there a way if recipe includes an inc which defines do_stage to override it again to the normal oe do_stage
Jun 05 16:35:58 <woglinde> 0p0   ^ · ──────────────────────────────צ¦··························──────────────── ················000000000000000
Jun 05 16:36:15 <woglinde> hms
Jun 05 16:36:18 <woglinde> tobi
Jun 05 16:47:22 <RP> woglinde: I think you can call base_do_stage
Jun 05 17:21:57 <lantern_burns__> how can I rebuild package with its dependencies using bitbake?..
Jun 05 17:22:25 <lantern_burns__> rm -r $TMPDIR is not good at my point of view
Jun 05 17:25:26 <cbrake> Laibsch: is there any way to tweak the CSS info from inside mediawiki?  I'm trying to set up some formatting similiar to the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki homepage
Jun 05 17:26:36 <Laibsch> cbrake: How familiar are you with mediawiki itself?
Jun 05 17:26:50 <Laibsch> I guess all we need is a custom theme
Jun 05 17:27:05 <Laibsch> I'd have to google for that on how it can be done, but I am sure it is possible
Jun 05 17:27:16 <cbrake> Laibsch: I have never customized to this level, but I'd like it to look nice.
Jun 05 17:27:21 <cbrake> Laibsch: just found: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css
Jun 05 17:27:22 <Laibsch> I'd *greatly* appreciate if somebody else took the initiative here
Jun 05 17:27:39 <Laibsch> cbrake: I absolutely agree, looks are important
Jun 05 17:27:52 <Laibsch> I am not sure, I'll find much time for it soon
Jun 05 17:28:41 <cbrake> Laibsch: so it looks like you can edit css pages from within mediawiki somehow ...
Jun 05 17:28:49 <summatusmentis> the OpenMoko folks just changed around their wiki again, fwiw
Jun 05 17:29:25 <Laibsch> From what I can gather, the layout on the link you gave is not achieved via css but with templates
Jun 05 17:29:34 <cbrake> Laibsch: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/MediaWiki:Common.css
Jun 05 17:29:37 <Laibsch> templates is one thing in mediawiki I have not yet tested too much
Jun 05 17:29:47 <Laibsch> but it should be easy to experiment
Jun 05 17:30:08 <cbrake> Laibsch: templates from what I can gather are just chunks that can be easily included in other pages, but I'm no expert yet :-)
Jun 05 17:30:26 <cbrake> Laibsch: I only have "view source" for http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/MediaWiki:Common.css
Jun 05 17:30:33 <cbrake> Laibsch: can you edit this page?
Jun 05 17:30:43 <Laibsch> yes, that is what i assume, too
Jun 05 17:30:55 <Laibsch> I have just never tried to use them
Jun 05 17:31:10 <Laibsch> I can edit the Common.css page
Jun 05 17:31:22 <cbrake> Laibsch: can you increase my permission level to edit this page?
Jun 05 17:31:59 <Laibsch> You have full permission as far as I know
Jun 05 17:32:18 <Laibsch> Except the GRANT permission to promote other users
Jun 05 17:32:38 <Laibsch> But I think we should rather have a separate theme
Jun 05 17:32:47 <cbrake> Laibsch: hmm, for some reason I only have view access to the above page
Jun 05 17:32:50 <Laibsch> So we can turn that off more easily
Jun 05 17:32:58 <Laibsch> Plus, this is not a CSS problem
Jun 05 17:33:11 <Laibsch> look at http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki&action=edit
Jun 05 17:33:42 <cbrake> Laibsch: right, but they use CSS to make the nice boxes, different colors
Jun 05 17:34:01 <Laibsch> if you want to, I can set up a playground wiki so we can test out stuff easily on my own server
Jun 05 17:34:02 <cbrake> Laibsch: at this point, I'm just trying to duplicate exactly what mediawiki is doing on their home page
Jun 05 17:34:05 <Laibsch> but not today, I think
Jun 05 17:34:23 <Laibsch> good idea
Jun 05 17:34:32 <Laibsch> but I think we should start with the content
Jun 05 17:34:35 <Laibsch> the template stuff
Jun 05 17:34:58 <Laibsch> Let me get that sandbox wiki up
Jun 05 17:35:10 <cbrake> Laibsch: notice they use lots of <div> on http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_page&action=edit
Jun 05 17:35:32 <cbrake> Laibsch: which they then apply styles from: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css
Jun 05 17:36:42 <cbrake> Laibsch: probably overkill for now, but would at least like to get some boxes around stuff on the home page
Jun 05 17:38:08 <Laibsch> sounds good
Jun 05 17:38:22 <Laibsch> Let's try and think about some general structure, too
Jun 05 17:38:30 <Laibsch> before the implementation
Jun 05 17:38:41 <Laibsch> Are you familiar with categories?
Jun 05 17:38:52 <cbrake> Laibsch: yes, I like what you are doing with them
Jun 05 17:41:27 <Laibsch> good
Jun 05 17:41:43 <Laibsch> I think we should generally use categories to help structure stuff
Jun 05 17:42:20 <Laibsch> Templates is probably interesting, too for redundant info included in several pages
Jun 05 17:42:27 <Laibsch> But I have not used them so far
Jun 05 17:42:58 <cbrake> Laibsch: looks like the mediawiki folks use templates just to break up the content of complex pages to make editting easier
Jun 05 17:43:08 <cbrake> Laibsch: kind of separates the content from the formatting
Jun 05 17:43:13 <Laibsch> I am not too fond of subpages, but I have used them for the FAQ stuff to lessen possible naming collisions
Jun 05 17:43:20 <cbrake> Laibsch: nod
Jun 05 17:56:11 <Laibsch> cbrake: I think http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Main_page_templates is what you want to read
Jun 05 17:56:42 <Laibsch> grab yourself some sandbox page to experiment and come up with some design and we can then change the front page
Jun 05 17:57:35 <woglinde> re
Jun 05 17:58:28 <cbrake> Laibsch: experiementing now: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Cbrake_Test_Page
Jun 05 17:59:04 <cbrake> Laibsch: I really like templates in that you don't have to edit table contents on the main page ...
Jun 05 18:00:48 <Laibsch> looks very promising
Jun 05 18:01:09 <Laibsch> and has also finally made me gained me a first insight into templates
Jun 05 18:01:20 <Laibsch> I was unaware that there is a template namespace
Jun 05 18:01:40 <Laibsch> Let's also steal from the openzaurus wiki ;-)
Jun 05 18:01:50 <cbrake> Laibsch: good idea :-)  forgot about that one!
Jun 05 18:02:42 <Laibsch> well, the layout is nice
Jun 05 18:02:49 <Laibsch> but the code is ugly
Jun 05 18:03:06 <Laibsch> I think mediawiki might be the more modern and easier to understand example
Jun 05 18:03:15 <cbrake> Laibsch: lots of good clues there -- I think OZ formatting and layout + templates would work good 
Jun 05 18:12:06 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4333 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by raj.khem(AT)gmail.com
Jun 05 18:12:08 <cdbot2> * * omap1-linux-2.6.24 fails to build with gcc 4.3
Jun 05 18:12:10 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4333
Jun 05 18:13:06 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4305 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by raj.khem(AT)gmail.com
Jun 05 18:13:07 <cdbot2> * * eglibc-initial-2.8+svnr6229-autobuild
Jun 05 18:13:10 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4305
Jun 05 18:22:04 <woglinde> morning crofton
Jun 05 18:22:23 <Crofton> gm
Jun 05 18:23:11 <cyrilRomain> morning all
Jun 05 18:24:57 <woglinde> hi cyril
Jun 05 18:25:02 <woglinde> re robert
Jun 05 18:32:39 <cbrake> Laibsch: ok
Jun 05 19:32:59 <Khem> Crofton|work: hi
Jun 05 19:33:13 <Khem> Crofton|work: 2.6.25-omap1 does not boot
Jun 05 19:33:21 <Crofton|work> I know
Jun 05 19:33:23 <Khem> did you try it out ?
Jun 05 19:33:29 <Khem> ok 
Jun 05 19:33:36 <Crofton|work> I thought I pushed a booting defconfog
Jun 05 19:33:48 <Crofton|work> I need to work on it next week
Jun 05 19:33:56 <Khem> Crofton|work: I am uptodate I think 
Jun 05 19:33:58 <Crofton|work> do yuo have an OSK?
Jun 05 19:34:03 <Khem> yea
Jun 05 19:34:11 <Khem> lemme try out 
Jun 05 19:34:14 <Khem> what boots
Jun 05 19:34:26 <Crofton|work> anything you can do would be much appreciated
Jun 05 19:34:34 <Crofton|work> I would like to get sound working again
Jun 05 19:34:50 <Crofton|work> some people have been asking, but that board is on third place on my priority list
Jun 05 19:35:10 <Crofton|work> and I have limited time for all three through Monday :(
Jun 05 19:35:28 <Khem> ok
Jun 05 20:16:03 <woglinde> hi flo
Jun 05 20:22:56 <flo_lap> re
Jun 05 20:45:21 <ant_> hi all
Jun 05 20:53:19 <ant_> mattaw: ping
Jun 05 20:54:29 <hrw> hi
Jun 05 20:54:37 <ant_> hi Marcin
Jun 05 20:54:52 <ant_> baby sleeping well?
Jun 05 20:55:14 <hrw> not yet - feeding now
Jun 05 20:55:30 <ant_> how many "IRQ's" during the night?
Jun 05 20:55:56 <woglinde> hi ant
Jun 05 20:55:59 <woglinde> re hrw
Jun 05 20:56:02 <hrw> depends
Jun 05 20:56:03 <ant_> my Marek just needs one pit-stop after 10 months
Jun 05 20:56:13 <ant_> one per night
Jun 05 20:56:32 <ant_> sometimes sleeps ununterruptedly
Jun 05 20:56:48 <ant_> *sometimes*
Jun 05 20:57:29 <ant_> hrw: now you'll start to appreciate these late hours...
Jun 05 20:58:05 <hrw> I have some stuff to print
Jun 05 20:58:23 <ant_> psst, silently please :-)
Jun 05 20:59:15 <otavio> hrw: new baby?
Jun 05 20:59:41 <hrw> otavio: Mira was born 2008.02.19
Jun 05 20:59:58 <otavio> hrw: Oh nice. Didn't know you are a father :-)
Jun 05 21:00:12 <hrw> otavio: read my blog then ;)
Jun 05 21:00:20 <otavio> hrw: haha ok
Jun 05 21:33:44 * hrw -> bed
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Jun 05 22:33:46 <Laibsch> hrw|gone: I cannot get to the source of http://oe.linuxtogo.org/wiki/GettingStarted
Jun 05 23:08:36 <otan> oe
Jun 05 23:13:06 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 4348 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by xjqian(AT)gmail.com
Jun 05 23:13:08 <cdbot2> * * QA errors after bitbake navit
Jun 05 23:13:10 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4348
Jun 05 23:17:36 <otan> oe
Jun 05 23:18:02 <cyrilRomain> nite all
Jun 05 23:18:12 <otan> oe
Jun 05 23:18:17 <cyrilRomain> otan: nite buggy bot
Jun 05 23:18:41 <otan> what?
Jun 05 23:19:12 <Laibsch> hrw|gone: I cannot get to the source of http://oe.linuxtogo.org/wiki/GettingStarted
Jun 05 23:19:37 <Laibsch> hrw|gone: Can you?  If so, can I burden you with bringing that stuff over to http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started ?
Jun 05 23:19:39 <otan> oe
Jun 05 23:25:20 <eekee> hmm my CF card gets hot when I use it as swap
Jun 05 23:25:52 <otan> oe
Jun 05 23:34:00 <otan> oe
Jun 06 00:22:10 <otavio> Any bitbake expert wake up?
Jun 06 00:57:32 <Fidget> otavio: I'm no expert, but I'll see if I can swing an answer your way.
Jun 06 00:58:19 <otavio> Fidget: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded.user/350
Jun 06 00:58:50 <otavio> Fidget: from my POV, this would be the right place to add the data on the cache but I fail to see how
Jun 06 00:59:21 <Fidget> otavio: actually, I would like an answer to this too
Jun 06 01:00:05 <otavio> Fidget: add P..DYNAMIC += "foo-locale-*" byhand looks stupid
Jun 06 01:00:16 <otavio> Fidget: since the locale packages are generated automaticaly
Jun 06 01:01:23 <otavio> Fidget: http://pastebin.com/f1f467f78 
Jun 06 01:01:29 <otavio> Fidget: this is my current patch
Jun 06 01:01:35 <otavio> Fidget: it in theory does it
Jun 06 01:01:42 <otavio> Fidget: but it doesn't work
Jun 06 01:02:22 <otavio> Fidget: mostly because it doesn't insert it on the cache
Jun 06 01:02:46 <Fidget> otavio: I'm not familiar with getting the cache updated, so I'm no help there
Jun 06 01:05:22 <Fidget> otavio: did you use any bb.debug for testing your patch?
Jun 06 01:06:35 <Khem> Crofton|work: it seems its not the kernel
Jun 06 01:06:52 <Khem> Crofton|work: seems like gcc 4.3 compiled kernel does not boot
Jun 06 01:07:11 <Khem> when compiling same with gcc 4.2 boots atleast
Jun 06 01:07:22 <Khem> it does not boot all the way through 
Jun 06 01:07:23 <otavio> Fidget: no. How can I do that?
Jun 06 01:15:18 * otavio goes to bed
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