**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 10 02:59:56 2008 Jun 10 03:12:01 I was just browsing the OE wiki, and saw that this page is trashed (http://oe.linuxtogo.org/wiki/OEandYourDistro). I don't have editing rights. Anyone care to fix it? Jun 10 06:23:15 morning Jun 10 07:15:20 good morning Jun 10 08:50:35 bonjour Jun 10 09:33:39 03rpurdie * r1075 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Revert the '-' character fix in class names since it breaks things Jun 10 09:40:07 good monring Jun 10 09:58:34 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbfa0fa6a... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: claim dropbear Jun 10 09:58:38 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ref071af5... 10/ (1 packages/dropbear/dropbear_0.51.bb): dropbear 0.51 remove testing preference and make this the new default Jun 10 11:11:03 broonie: The register map and block diagram are very useful... found quite some ways to turn off my speaker ;) Jun 10 11:42:45 ARGH Jun 10 11:42:52 NEVER EVER ATI Jun 10 11:43:09 ~fuck ati^Wamd for rs485 Jun 10 11:43:15 anyone know why I have troble building pulseaudio? Jun 10 11:43:28 rs485 ? Jun 10 11:44:51 dl9pf: onboard 'so called' graphics Jun 10 11:45:28 aah ... LOL ... i though on RS-485 (companion to RS-232) ... Jun 10 11:45:36 ;) Jun 10 11:45:58 no wonder ... the card uses a serial - line :D Jun 10 12:18:44 hrw: ATI keep going bust, doesnt that hint about their inability to do graphics :-) Jun 10 12:32:50 hmm, how do I get device files into a .ipk? Jun 10 12:38:10 XorA: sooner or later amd will decide to close ati part of company Jun 10 12:38:39 XorA: that's an interesting question. I was wondering how I would get "mknod /dev/smd0 -c 254 2" in the kaiser filesystems automated Jun 10 12:38:52 they never released docs for rs485 so it just suxx totally in free driver Jun 10 12:38:59 dcordes: what is /dev/smd0? Jun 10 12:39:01 dcordes: get the driver to correctly fill out sysfs Jun 10 12:39:33 dcordes: under 2.6 /dev/ is dynamic - user is not expected to create entries by hand Jun 10 12:40:11 time to put that 'programming linux kernel' old book in a trash where is its place Jun 10 12:40:14 hrw: serial device node which provides IO between the arm9 (modem) and arm11 (system) part of the msm7x00x through a shared memory region Jun 10 12:40:34 with circular buffers Jun 10 12:41:13 hrw: XorA maybe something is not mounted correctly on boot time Jun 10 12:42:02 dcordes: udev builds /dev from info in sysfs, if /dev/smd0 is missing, then it misses the correct sysfs entries Jun 10 12:42:17 then run udev again to repopulate /dev tree? Jun 10 12:43:10 iirc /etc/mtab was missing in angstrom filesystem in kaiser builds and something wasn't mounted because of that Jun 10 12:43:36 /etc/mtab is symlink to /proc/mounts Jun 10 12:44:54 well when I did mount -a it said /etc/mtab missing Jun 10 12:49:59 broonie: spyros wm9705 driver is buggy like hell - the controls are still using some wm9712 registers. And I wondered if I am too stupid to understand how the macros work :) Jun 10 12:54:59 ~lart codecs Jun 10 12:54:59 * ibot declares codecs a moron Jun 10 12:56:20 It's only partially done - he submitted it so he could get the touch screen up on the eXXX devices which use that. Jun 10 12:56:37 florian: go back to zx spectrum, one bit is all they needed to play sounds Jun 10 12:57:52 broonie: I'll submit a patch once I have the audio stuff working properly. In fact I'm happy that I do not have to write a new codec driver from the scratch... Jun 10 12:58:02 XorA: heh Jun 10 12:58:22 florian: That'd be excellent! Jun 10 12:59:01 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r06111208... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): sane-srcdates.inc: EFL bump Jun 10 13:03:26 florian: FWIW you may find the generic ac97.c driver helpful before you get a WM9705 specific driver - it hooks ASoC up to the generic ALSA AC97 support. Jun 10 13:04:10 The main thing it misses is DAPM, which generic ALSA doesn't have any idea about. Jun 10 13:08:27 broonie: there are quite some things done already... e.g. the register map defaults are adapted. but the definitions for a major share of the controls are wrong. Jun 10 13:43:25 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r10247098... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add alsa-scenario support library (git version) Jun 10 13:54:58 florian: http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/BuildGpepeUsingOpenEmbedded <--- is that still valid, or will it fail or something else? Jun 10 14:15:49 markus: Its a little bit outdated. It would be better to follow the GettingStarted instructions in OE and build a gpe-image or x11-gpe-image target. Jun 10 14:16:09 markus: You don't need to set any preferred versions for GPE any more. Jun 10 14:16:21 using stable/dev with angstrom 2007.1 ? Jun 10 14:16:41 markus: stable (!!) Jun 10 14:17:16 :) Jun 10 14:17:38 but then it's not a gpe image right? Jun 10 14:17:45 *gpephone Jun 10 14:18:18 i will try that, even if i suspect that it will fail somehow. Jun 10 14:18:46 markus: we have both images defined in oe Jun 10 14:21:18 i tried to build gpephone-image with stable 2007.1, failed fetching (wrong md5sum) for some gpe targets. and compile failed for apmd Jun 10 14:21:37 ... i'll try x11-gpe-image Jun 10 15:07:56 XorA: Is SRCREV_linux-kaiser = "blalba" correct syntax in local.conf? Jun 10 17:28:57 Crofton: I saw you also hit the pulseaudio/libltdl problem. Any idea on this? Jun 10 17:35:48 Tartarus: BTW thanks for the tip, a full 10s saving on gta01 boot time Jun 10 17:39:42 XorA|gone, nice Jun 10 17:40:13 XorA|gone, did you turn off udevtrigger/settle too? Or just start off with some nodes Jun 10 17:51:04 like2wise, not yet Jun 10 17:51:14 I have another task stealing all cycles Jun 10 17:51:48 I've been pulling and retrying Jun 10 18:05:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r36f545ab... 10/ (77 files in 25 dirs): Jun 10 18:05:21 lots of recipes: bump PR to get postinsts back Jun 10 18:05:21 * this is not a complete list Jun 10 18:05:21 * this still doesn't fix the pkg_postinst() type of bugs Jun 10 18:25:08 Tartarus: turned off the trigger settle Jun 10 18:51:15 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r39a25b65... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): pixman: add latest stable and unstable Jun 10 18:54:33 Bah Jun 10 18:54:43 A lack of "Fn" working on N810 makes cd /dev'ing quite hard Jun 10 18:58:41 hey ant_ Jun 10 18:58:52 Do you recall how to see keycodes at console? Jun 10 18:58:52 Tartarus: hi Jun 10 18:58:56 I got console-image on my N810 Jun 10 18:59:00 but no Fn key so no / Jun 10 18:59:03 so I can't poke /dev :) Jun 10 18:59:12 nasty Jun 10 18:59:41 I suppose I can try and hard-code usb0 stuff in Jun 10 18:59:47 lemme see if kernel has gadget eth compiled in Jun 10 19:01:01 Tartarus: kbd-1.06.tar.gz contains loadkeys, dumpkeys, showkey, setmetamode, Jun 10 19:01:01 setleds, setfont, showconsolefont, mapscrn, kbd_mode, kbdrate, Jun 10 19:01:01 loadunimap, chvt, resizecons, deallocvt, getkeycodes, setkeycodes. It Jun 10 19:01:01 also contains openvt, formerly called open. Jun 10 19:01:18 dumpkeys or showkey Jun 10 19:01:25 Not in "console-image" by default Jun 10 19:01:39 console-tools? Jun 10 19:02:16 lemme just hack in gadget eth :) Jun 10 19:03:56 bbl Jun 10 19:11:08 hi ph5 Jun 10 19:11:29 hi woglinde Jun 10 19:14:40 hi robert Jun 10 19:25:22 hi henning Jun 10 19:26:15 woglinde: are you interested in getting qtjambi into OE? I talked with many about this and forgot who that was Jun 10 19:27:27 rschuster hm what is the efford? Jun 10 19:27:35 or you mean only runtime Jun 10 19:28:36 woglinde: runtime? I thought qtjambi is a library? Jun 10 19:30:03 ah Jun 10 19:30:07 hi smancke *g* Jun 10 19:30:26 rschuster hm right I am only thought about the eclipse plugin sorry Jun 10 19:30:33 Hi woglinde Jun 10 19:30:57 but when I remeber correctly it was about 30mb or so Jun 10 19:31:07 smancke: hi sebastian Jun 10 19:31:19 hi robert! Jun 10 19:31:41 smancke: we are talking about qtjambi integration currently. cekay asked me about it Jun 10 19:31:57 ah, great! Jun 10 19:32:42 woglinde: yeah its a big library and it requires more of the native tools from qt4 Jun 10 19:33:41 woglinde: I investigated qtjambi integration some months ago and failed because it would need a better qt4-native (more modular) recipe/package of which I lack understanding Jun 10 19:34:38 what books would you guys recommend on linux kernel development? Jun 10 19:34:55 kario puh Jun 10 19:35:06 the books getting really fast old Jun 10 19:41:43 rschuster: do the changes in the build system of the fresh release help with it? Jun 10 19:43:42 smancke: had no time to look at those Jun 10 19:44:52 kario: corbet/rubini/kroah-hartmann "linux device drivers" Jun 10 19:45:05 kario: at least if your interested in device driver development Jun 10 19:45:22 hm hasnt robert love a new book at Jun 10 19:45:25 out Jun 10 19:45:35 kario: it is also available freely (CC-BY-SA) as PDF Jun 10 19:48:41 kario this could be good too http://www.amazon.com/Linux-System-Programming-Talking-Directly/dp/0596009585/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213127287&sr=1-3 Jun 10 19:53:35 woglinde: I did get that book at linuxtag and I must say I like the aproach they tool writing it Jun 10 19:53:59 keesj robert love was there? Jun 10 19:54:15 but what is more platfrom/system programming Jun 10 19:54:35 woglinde: sorry I don't know much people by name Jun 10 19:55:12 keesj there arent many books about linux kernel programming Jun 10 19:56:28 Tere they always say , user the force. read the .. but of course linux device drivers is a "must" Jun 10 19:59:04 \o/ thanks for the tips Jun 10 20:00:16 kario: and about embedded linux in general I liked http://www.amazon.com/Embedded-Linux-Primer-Real-World-Development/dp/0131679848/ref=pd_sim_b_img_5 Jun 10 20:01:32 I gets you into the fine time consuming art of spending to much time behind your computer Jun 10 20:48:16 er Jun 10 20:48:32 woglinde: ping Jun 10 20:49:03 ant_, udev-118 is good on nokia810, fyi :) Jun 10 20:49:12 hi ant Jun 10 20:49:13 Added a comment to the bug, starting to dig elsewhere in the bg Jun 10 20:49:20 * Tartarus switches back to work stuff :) Jun 10 20:49:28 Tartarus: I'm rebuilding now from scratch, bitbake is repaired Jun 10 20:50:01 k Jun 10 20:50:08 woglinde: did you ever compile mysql for oe? Jun 10 20:50:12 * Tartarus sees, happily, he was on r1070 up until, and still, right now Jun 10 20:50:22 ant aaaahhhh wahaha you said the m word Jun 10 20:50:25 I did iy by mistake and it fails: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/216493.txt Jun 10 20:50:39 ant one of the last think on earth for me were compile mysql for oe Jun 10 20:50:46 (I think gpsd gpsdrive or navit pulled it in) Jun 10 20:50:56 (-c buildall) Jun 10 20:54:23 woglinde: does the wrong path look like a libtool issue (for mysql)? Jun 10 20:55:16 I don't need mysql on Z, is just to improve my (poor) debug skills Jun 10 20:58:04 ant sorry gen_lex_hash doesnt say me smoething Jun 10 20:58:40 woglinde: forget about it, I'll open a bug perhaps later Jun 10 20:59:15 I'm anxious to see if udev now works... Jun 10 21:56:14 why are 90% of the telecommute jobs posted online either admin or LAMP? it makes me sad Jun 10 21:58:57 why does that make you sad? Jun 10 22:02:55 cause i'm not an admin or web guy, clearly :) Jun 10 22:06:33 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re5e89d63... 10/ (13 files in 2 dirs): gcc 4.3.0: replace with gcc 4.3.1 Jun 10 23:31:02 Bah, linux-rp 2.6.24 is busted for tosa atm Jun 10 23:31:04 !oebug 4294 Jun 10 23:31:06 * * Bug 4294, Status: UNCONFIRMED, Created: 2008-05-23 21:09 Jun 10 23:31:07 * * : linux-rp-2.6.24-autobuild Jun 10 23:31:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4294 Jun 11 00:41:26 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8f0d0274... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jun 11 00:41:26 add pulseaudio-meta, a meta package that starts and configures the pulseaudio system Jun 11 00:41:26 NOTE: you might want to override the session file for specific devices (e.g. non-alsa) or distribution needs Jun 11 00:41:30 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rdea07156... 10/ (1 packages/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.7.bb): gst-plugins-good 0.10.7 add missing dependency to esound Jun 11 00:41:35 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r81ef71fa... 10/ (1 packages/images/fso-image.bb): fso-image: remove openmoko-sound-system2 in favour of pulseaudio-meta **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 11 02:59:56 2008