**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 11 02:59:56 2008 Jun 11 06:22:50 morning Jun 11 06:37:19 morning Jun 11 07:47:41 bonjour Jun 11 07:52:34 morning Jun 11 07:53:10 morning woglinde Jun 11 07:54:02 hey woglinde :) Jun 11 08:15:22 i'm working on etherboot, i wonder if someone else already made some script to get netboot image with OE Jun 11 08:15:58 could be useful if i write a netboot.bbclass Jun 11 08:17:24 yes Jun 11 08:17:27 good idea Jun 11 08:19:29 go :) Jun 11 08:21:27 good to if you write that on openembedded-devel ml Jun 11 08:21:55 so a wider audience knows your plan and no one makes double work Jun 11 08:24:51 woglinde : you have just release what i've done 2 years ago Jun 11 08:25:09 so oe devel ml ... Jun 11 08:25:38 think it should be better when i've some time to commit my works to work to obtain write access. Jun 11 08:26:48 O_o Jun 11 08:26:58 * Genesis need a coffe Jun 11 08:27:36 lol Jun 11 08:27:42 put in the bugtracker Jun 11 08:27:47 +it Jun 11 08:30:03 i worked 1 enterile month to get gnash working on arm with AGG etc Jun 11 08:30:26 my work have never be commited , i putted it in the bt. Jun 11 08:31:00 Genesis: tell me about that - is that the gnash recipe in OE? I recently added a minimal variant for fb devices. Jun 11 08:31:13 double workd :} Jun 11 08:32:20 hi likewise Jun 11 08:32:28 i've a ton of work to commit, just a dont want to spend my time for nothing Jun 11 08:32:39 to be commited 2 years after ( my zlib patch etc ) Jun 11 08:32:41 yeah Jun 11 08:32:46 oh Jun 11 08:32:47 sorry Jun 11 08:32:54 when it's outdatted and i changed 2 times of job. Jun 11 08:32:54 hm Jun 11 08:33:20 we need more manpower for the bugs Jun 11 08:33:36 i would like to help Jun 11 08:33:44 hi Jun 11 08:34:31 i just need some time to do the right thing :) Jun 11 08:36:37 could we package for non-libre software ? Jun 11 08:37:06 and have a non-free repot ? Jun 11 08:37:54 likewise ah good point with double version package building of bitbake Jun 11 08:38:05 happens here sometimes too Jun 11 08:39:12 http://www.aldebaran-robotics.com/ <- our product Jun 11 08:39:53 genesis running with oe? Jun 11 08:39:59 of course Jun 11 08:40:08 i'm quite alone on the distribution Jun 11 08:40:15 ah cool Jun 11 08:40:26 new the devices for the robocup Jun 11 08:40:39 I was involed with the foofighters Jun 11 08:41:08 yeap the production is just 1 meter behind me Jun 11 08:41:10 >_< Jun 11 08:42:00 hm genesis maybee is it possible to send one of them to germany? Jun 11 08:42:22 you'd some at german cup Jun 11 08:42:31 so we can show it at opensource fairs Jun 11 08:42:34 as eyecatcher Jun 11 08:42:43 they don't care about opensource fairs Jun 11 08:42:46 refuse me fossdem Jun 11 08:42:51 oh okay Jun 11 08:42:52 don't help me about RMLL Jun 11 08:42:53 sorry Jun 11 08:42:57 :/ Jun 11 08:43:44 i think opensource guy are not supposed to win enough money to buy our product , i donno :} Jun 11 08:44:32 wow the videos a amazing Jun 11 08:44:47 yes Jun 11 08:45:36 standing on one feet Jun 11 08:45:38 great Jun 11 08:45:39 angstrom based Jun 11 08:46:08 hm how much is the price settled? Jun 11 08:46:18 ~3000 € Jun 11 08:46:25 not before march 2009 Jun 11 08:46:32 yes I see Jun 11 08:46:38 thats a lot Jun 11 08:46:52 it's not cheap Jun 11 08:47:03 26 motors etc Jun 11 08:47:11 lot of sensors Jun 11 08:47:16 yes Jun 11 08:47:35 which type of kameras are in? Jun 11 08:49:03 uh they are hand made? Jun 11 08:50:37 yeap Jun 11 08:50:53 don't remember camera spec Jun 11 08:51:13 how are they connect? Jun 11 08:51:14 usb Jun 11 08:51:31 hm I okay I will look for specs on the side Jun 11 08:52:32 VIP amd geode port Jun 11 08:54:42 where can i buy the thing and how much is it? Jun 11 08:54:58 kario es genesis said 3000 euros Jun 11 08:55:01 in 2009 Jun 11 08:55:05 k Jun 11 08:55:20 robocup member can buy it earlier it seems Jun 11 08:55:51 but nice what was developed into 3 years Jun 11 08:56:02 other companys took 5 or 6 years to get this done Jun 11 08:58:15 hm we should bring quick back now the wiki Jun 11 08:58:24 and collect all stuff were oe is used Jun 11 08:58:30 like bug labs and now nao Jun 11 09:00:14 it's not official annoucement Jun 11 09:00:39 genesis yes Jun 11 09:00:47 we surely respect this Jun 11 09:01:22 we dont want that you lose your job Jun 11 09:01:43 :) Jun 11 09:01:48 don't want too :P Jun 11 09:02:52 woglinde : i saw a lot of devel board runs linux Jun 11 09:03:05 hm? Jun 11 09:03:15 http://beagleboard.org/ seems cool but not for robotic stuff Jun 11 09:03:23 yes Jun 11 09:03:26 that we know Jun 11 09:03:26 ( i need a good card for my humble personnal robot ) Jun 11 09:03:35 should wait koen Jun 11 09:03:39 to ask about GPIO on it Jun 11 09:04:17 hm there other beagleboard specialist too here Jun 11 09:04:24 Genesis: expansion slot on beagleboard has i2c, spi, gpio Jun 11 09:04:26 koen isnt chatting for a while Jun 11 09:04:36 morning hrw Jun 11 09:04:42 koen dropped irc Jun 11 09:04:53 ho ;/ Jun 11 09:04:54 hrw completly now? Jun 11 09:05:00 looks like Jun 11 09:05:08 I thought only for his master thesis Jun 11 09:05:24 who knows when it will end Jun 11 09:06:01 it's not well documented on wiki Jun 11 09:07:41 Genesis: go #beagleboard and ask Jun 11 09:07:46 *g* Jun 11 09:11:07 * * OE Bug 4007 has been REOPENED by markpointing(AT)optusnet.com.au Jun 11 09:11:09 * * Angstrom 2.6.24 kernel won't boot on tosa. Jun 11 09:11:11 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4007 Jun 11 09:13:27 damnit 935 bugs open Jun 11 09:19:53 ~lart udev Jun 11 09:19:53 * ibot offers udev some herring Jun 11 09:31:04 hrw : which network ? Jun 11 09:32:40 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd990d2d0... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): pulse.inc: rename to pulseaudio.inc Jun 11 09:32:45 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc1223ce3... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): pulseaudio-meta 0.9.10 improve alsa integration Jun 11 09:32:50 freenode? Jun 11 10:10:12 Genesis: just #beagle i think Jun 11 10:15:45 yeap Jun 11 10:15:49 thx :) Jun 11 10:18:27 bye Jun 11 10:18:34 good morning Jun 11 12:04:54 anyone knows why I'm getting 'i686-linux-libtool: link: unsupported hardcode properties' when bitbaking classpath-initial? Jun 11 12:23:05 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r559e9db3... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): pulseaudio-meta: add missing files (sorry) Jun 11 12:23:49 hello all Jun 11 12:24:31 mickeyl: Can you build pulseaudio without the libtool issue (libldtl)? Jun 11 12:25:20 build yes Jun 11 12:25:31 it won't work until you have the proper libltdl on the device though Jun 11 12:26:03 there should be no issues with making the newer libtool (non-native) the default Jun 11 12:26:09 i'm been PREFERRING it since months now Jun 11 12:26:56 mickeyl: will verify that later, angstrom head has been failing for several ppl/machines. Jun 11 12:27:06 k Jun 11 12:27:13 there's a new opkg problem Jun 11 12:27:25 "can not create administrate lock" Jun 11 12:27:30 i have a fix for that Jun 11 12:27:34 will push later Jun 11 12:27:53 mickeyl: k, nice. will come back later to build head. thanks. have to dual boot now for M$ VPN access.... ARGH Jun 11 12:28:01 heh, "fun" Jun 11 12:28:19 (the cisco client didn't work for me...) Jun 11 14:07:30 cbrake: The MainPage prototype looks great Jun 11 14:07:40 Thank you for the work Jun 11 14:08:43 Can you add some spacing to "Welcome to Openembedded" box? Jun 11 14:08:52 The code looks rather scary Jun 11 14:08:53 ;-) Jun 11 14:21:48 mickeyl: That opkg lock issue is probably a missing directory in the rootfs_ipk.bbclass Jun 11 14:21:55 There is probably a fix in poky for it Jun 11 14:26:33 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * rc551e119... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): netbase: drop mpc8313e-rdb specific etc/network/interfaces Jun 11 14:26:37 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * rdfd90636... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-flup_1.0.bb): python-flup_1.0.bb: add python module for WSGI servers Jun 11 14:33:04 Laibsch: I can try :-) Jun 11 14:35:04 Laibsch: what do you mean by "spacing"? Jun 11 14:35:28 text is too close to table border Jun 11 14:35:38 Laibsch: ok Jun 11 14:39:03 RP: probably. anyways, I'll commit the fix later Jun 11 14:59:59 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r99ed4d92... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): lighttpd: fix init script (restart did not work) Jun 11 15:14:11 bye Jun 11 15:31:13 Laibsch: border fixed -- trying to figure out how to upload images ... Jun 11 15:32:13 I don't think that is activated yet Jun 11 15:32:23 Give me an URL and I can include it for now Jun 11 15:33:18 Laibsch: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads Jun 11 15:33:28 Laibsch: no rush, I'll just wait till you enable uploades Jun 11 15:33:44 Laibsch: I was just going to add some icons to the main page, but no hurry Jun 11 15:35:23 Laibsch: I'm thinking of adding a News box similiar to Mediawiki site ... Jun 11 15:38:27 cbrake: try now Jun 11 15:41:46 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rb5a189f3... 10/ (1 packages/cdrkit packages/cdrkit/cdrkit_1.1.0.bb): cdrkit: add package Jun 11 15:41:49 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rc071abe8... 10/ (1 packages/cmake/cmake-native_2.6.0.bb): cmake: add cmake 2.6.0 Jun 11 15:41:53 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r73c061e8... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): dvd+rw-tools: add package Jun 11 15:41:56 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r2dec211a... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): dvdauthor: add package Jun 11 15:42:00 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r389d1b47... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): mjpegtools: add package Jun 11 15:42:04 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * ra58139c7... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libcap-1.10: fix includes Jun 11 15:42:08 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf7be2935... 10/ (1 packages/cdrkit/cdrkit_1.1.0.bb): cdrkit: depends on libcap Jun 11 15:54:18 Laibsch: I was able to upload, but the location looks a little messed up: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Image:100px-GTA02.gif Jun 11 15:54:22 cbrake: Can you increase spacing even a bit more? Jun 11 15:54:29 Laibsch: http://wiki.openembedded.net/images/c/c6/100px-GTA02.gif Jun 11 15:54:31 Laibsch: sure Jun 11 15:57:28 Laibsch: padding increased Jun 11 15:58:42 cbrake, Laibsch: awesome work already. Jun 11 15:58:44 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r02269736... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): libmikmod: update 3.1.11 and set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE for 3.2.0-beta2 to -1 Jun 11 15:58:49 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r293ba2b2... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): alsa-plugins 1.0.14 update to 1.0.15 Jun 11 15:58:54 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r66e7b7f5... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): alsa-state: fix standard alsa dmix configuration, it now works out-of-the-box Jun 11 15:58:59 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd6d0a604... 10/ (1 packages/alsa/alsa-state.bb): alsa-state: install correct file Jun 11 15:59:04 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r98250d18... 10/ (1 classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass): rootfs_ipk.bbclass: opkg nowadays needs its lib directory created before it can operate Jun 11 15:59:09 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r716838c6... 10/ (1 packages/images/fso-image.bb): fso-image: yank pulseaudio and use alsa dmix for now Jun 11 16:00:35 cbrake: It seems that whatever you have in the top main box gets added to the four smaller boxes as well Jun 11 16:00:46 But I think it looks very nice now already Jun 11 16:01:04 can't wait to add to that wiki Jun 11 16:01:15 will add some more machines with photos et. al. Jun 11 16:01:35 Laibsch: yes, we can change that by adding a different style Jun 11 16:02:31 Laibsch: trying to get rid of "Main Page" on the main page -- taking up valuable space! Jun 11 16:07:15 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r1881f1e0... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): lighttpd: backport support for url.redirect-code from 1.5 branch Jun 11 16:10:10 cbrake: What do you mean? Jun 11 16:10:21 the link in navigation? Jun 11 16:10:34 I think that is an absolute Must Jun 11 16:10:54 mickey_away, cbrake: Does the following line make any sense to you? Jun 11 16:10:57 /var/log/apache2/error.log:[Wed Jun 11 17:49:15 2008] [error] [client 69.34.21.229] File does not exist: /var/www/wiki.openembedded.net/images/c, referer: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Image:100px-GTA02.gif Jun 11 16:11:30 The images directory is empty, but it seems that apache always tries to access images/c no matter what the image filename Jun 11 16:11:50 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * r6aa3a343... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): freesmartphone: start services after dbus Jun 11 16:11:55 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r305437fe... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): add gsmd2, a dbus-enabled gsm phone server Jun 11 16:16:08 hello! Jun 11 16:16:43 is there any recommended best practice if you need to override config files (/etc/*) for your local needs? Jun 11 16:18:00 I was thinking of something along the lines INHERITS += "override-config.bbclass", and override-config.bbclass would remove the files you want to modify from their original package, allowing you to ship a modified one in your own package Jun 11 16:18:39 the idea here is to not have any local changes to the org.openembedded.dev tree Jun 11 16:21:39 cbrake: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Image:100px-GTA02.gif looks good now Jun 11 16:24:14 jeremy_laine: I believe that you need to duplicate packages and modify them in a personal collection Jun 11 16:24:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd9b88c51... 10/ (1 conf/machine/neuros-osd2.conf): neuros osd2: correct kernel provider Jun 11 16:29:37 Fidget: hm, that's what I'm trying to avoid Jun 11 16:31:03 jeremy_laine: Well, if done properly, your personal collections will take precedence before the OE tree, and achieve the same affect Jun 11 16:31:06 jeremy_laine: This is something we're weak at without using overrides Jun 11 16:31:10 inherting should work the same Jun 11 16:36:19 Laibsch: the way the mediawiki does news requires: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions -- not sure if that is a good idea or not ... Jun 11 16:36:36 RP: I am rebuilding my kernel a lot, making modules inbuilt then not and back again. How can I clean up the kernel-module- packages that get built from the kernel? Jun 11 16:37:16 Fidget: using packaged-staging and -c clean the kernel package to rebuild Jun 11 16:37:35 Anyone with Tosa HW around? Jun 11 16:39:38 RP: packaged staging? Jun 11 16:42:07 RP: I did bitbake -c clean virtual/kernel, now how can I remove kernel modules from the rootfs? Jun 11 17:17:33 Where can I find documentation on packaged staging? Jun 11 18:38:07 * * OE Bug 4372 has been created by likewise(AT)gmx.net Jun 11 18:38:09 * * pulseaudio does not pick up libtool's libltdl library and tries to link against non-existing local library Jun 11 18:38:11 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4372 Jun 11 18:39:54 ~praise like2wise Jun 11 18:39:55 All hail like2wise! Jun 11 18:48:36 Crofton|work: ?? Jun 11 18:48:56 Crofton|work: you praise hacks? :-) Jun 11 18:49:23 like2wise, tomorrow, I will start to care about pulse audio Jun 11 18:49:31 well, more getting a build to complete Jun 11 18:51:28 yes, I'm a bit embaressed (sp?) I cannot properly fix libtool/autotool/conf issues myself, but at least the build finishes indeed :-) Jun 11 18:52:20 OK, are there issues w/ the anon mtn db? I haven't seen any changes to pull in about a week now Jun 11 21:10:28 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2b8d334e... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): gcc 4.3.1: fix NEON ice: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=36500 Jun 11 21:31:57 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * ra6e949d7... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Jun 11 21:31:57 freetype: update to version 2.3.6 Jun 11 21:31:57 * fixing security issuses with 2.3.5 and before Jun 11 21:31:57 * patch fix-x86_64-build.patch seems to be applied upstream Jun 11 21:39:50 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9ea5fa69... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add python-pyalsaaudio, support for the Linux 2.6.x ALSA Sound System Jun 11 21:39:54 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf710df9b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libmikmod 3.1.12 bring back m4 patch to improve compatibility with more systems (thanks Jeremy) Jun 11 22:00:37 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rfcf75bc9... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add python-pyalsa, (another) alsa support package for python Jun 11 22:11:44 Laibsch: ping Jun 11 22:12:43 * otavio is back from a work trip Jun 11 22:12:57 Hello Jun 11 22:13:08 hi otavio Jun 11 22:13:29 otavio: work, no play? Jun 11 22:13:49 like2wise: hehe ... not much Jun 11 22:14:00 like2wise: life ... Jun 11 22:17:13 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8d96efde... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): python-etk git sanitize recipe and add to task-python-efl[-examples] Jun 11 23:04:11 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * re7da7ddf... 10/ (1 packages/rt-tests/rt-tests_0.21.bb): rt-tests: Fix detection of executables in do_install(). Jun 11 23:15:01 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r416f8410... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): linux-rt-2.6.25: Enable hrtimers, dyntick and -rt latency tracing for EFIKA. Jun 11 23:33:40 Hmm Jun 11 23:33:50 anyone done a packaged-staging build from scratch recently, with gcc-4.2.4? Jun 11 23:34:04 I get a build fails in gcc-cross, rerunning target fixes it **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 12 01:23:10 2008 Jun 12 01:56:21 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r138e9cf3... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): madwifi-ng: backport r3314 from .dev, add compile fix for mips1 / gcc4 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 12 02:59:57 2008