**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 02 02:59:56 2008 Jul 02 03:01:55 workaphobia: what version of glibc are you using Jul 02 03:03:20 khem: I'm not sure. 2.6.1? There was a message about the preferred one not being available. I don't have the development machine available at the moment Jul 02 03:03:38 But isn't this a problem with binutils, not glibc? Jul 02 03:04:03 How would I control what version gets installed anyway? Is it like portage, with the "=package-version" notation? Jul 02 03:04:17 e.g. bitbake =glibc-intermediate-x.y.z? Jul 02 03:04:40 hmmm what distribution are you building ? Jul 02 03:04:46 angstrom Jul 02 03:04:52 for the at91sam9263ek Jul 02 03:04:54 ok Jul 02 03:05:00 I'd use a prebuilt image if it were available... Jul 02 03:05:20 you can use poky images Jul 02 03:05:25 if you want Jul 02 03:05:50 I vaguely recall reading about that Jul 02 03:06:19 http://pokylinux.org/autobuild/poky-bleeding/4714/ Jul 02 03:06:46 if you follow the wiki instructions on building OE it should be buildable too Jul 02 03:06:52 what image did you try ? Jul 02 03:07:14 console-image or minimal-image are good targets Jul 02 03:08:35 you mean what bitbake target? Didn't matter, I tried hello-world and task-base and this seems core enough to have been a problem with both Jul 02 03:09:25 I'll look into poky tomorrow, maybe I'll have better luck with that.. To build poky images requires OE though, so I'd have the same trouble if the prebuilt images weren't any good? Jul 02 03:09:53 I can't understand how this problem would only affect me, I don't know what I did differently or where I deviated from the instructions (more than I had to) Jul 02 03:17:38 Well, I'll play around with this some more and maybe put OE on my home machine so I can throw more horsepower at it. Thanks Jul 02 06:30:38 morning Jul 02 06:56:18 morning Jul 02 07:37:05 morning fooks Jul 02 07:41:51 morning likewise Jul 02 08:54:05 * * OE Bug 4402 has been created by ihar.hrachyshka(AT)gmail.com Jul 02 08:54:07 * * libsvg-cairo configure failed (with fix) Jul 02 08:54:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4402 Jul 02 09:49:24 How do you know the trolltech website sucks? I've been on there for several minutes now and still have not found the information about how much a commercial license goes for. Jul 02 09:50:41 Laibsch: hehe Jul 02 09:51:02 zecke: Do you happen to know Jul 02 09:51:03 ? Jul 02 09:51:14 I honestly think this information is not on their web page Jul 02 09:51:19 I even googled up and down Jul 02 09:53:19 Laibsch: price? Jul 02 09:54:47 yes Jul 02 09:54:52 http://trolltech.com/products/qt/orderform haha Jul 02 09:55:01 one of the most basic information any company should make available Jul 02 09:55:02 enter your credit card and see what they will charge... Jul 02 09:55:08 zecke: yes, I found that URL Jul 02 09:55:13 an *absolute* joke Jul 02 09:55:33 that URL is rather prominent, at least they do that right Jul 02 09:56:08 Laibsch: just hire zecke to be qt support :-) Jul 02 09:56:16 Laibsch: then you dont need commercial licenses Jul 02 09:56:35 good idea Jul 02 09:56:46 tcooksey: ping :) Jul 02 09:56:50 I had actually been thinking about that Jul 02 09:56:53 Laibsch: they had a good website... Jul 02 09:57:15 zecke: pong... Hiya Jul 02 09:58:08 tcooksey: ah thanks. Could you help us to find the price for a Qt developer license on the website? :) Jul 02 09:58:35 Laibsch: http://trolltech.com/products/qt/learnmore/licensing-pricing i stopped before reading this Jul 02 09:58:40 zecke: 30 day trial? Jul 02 09:58:50 no, the real deal Jul 02 09:58:54 I guess the trial is free Jul 02 09:59:17 tcooksey: You should seriously worry about your website if a potential customer cannot find the price of your offer Jul 02 09:59:59 zecke: I clicked quite a lot of links, but never found any concrete numbers Jul 02 10:00:07 Laibsch: Thanks for the input... but my mother always told me "If you have to ask, you can't afford it" :-) Jul 02 10:00:26 tcooksey: there's truth in that ;)) Jul 02 10:00:35 my wife keeps saying the same Jul 02 10:00:44 bbiab Jul 02 10:01:38 What do you want a developer licence for anyway? Don't tell me you're going over to the dark side and doing CLOSED source development??? Jul 02 10:05:18 tcooksey: Well, good to know that trolltech does not want to make money Jul 02 10:05:34 I was just trying to help you here Jul 02 10:06:18 It just so happens that Qt was being considered Jul 02 10:06:29 and that the source needed to remain closed Jul 02 10:06:44 Laibsch: Well, Trolltech no longer exists. It was a marketing decision to remove pricing info, as generally it is "flexible". Jul 02 10:07:41 tcooksey: thanks, I wondered about this Jul 02 10:07:48 ah good old flexible pricey, depends on how much nokia likes your ass Jul 02 10:08:57 Well, more like how many licences do you want to buy, is it a big company, if so can we say they are using Qt.... There's usually lots of details about a deal other than proce. Jul 02 10:09:02 *price Jul 02 10:09:55 E.g. I'm sure google got a better deal and some of our other customers because they let us use google earth as an example in our Merketing. Jul 02 10:10:18 What's this all about anyway? Jul 02 10:10:36 * Laibsch shakes head Jul 02 10:10:40 unbelievable Jul 02 10:11:42 Laibsch: That's one reason I would not recommend Qt for business use unless everythin can be GLP licensed. Jul 02 10:13:23 ?? Because you have to send an e-mail to get price information? Jul 02 10:13:36 Because you have to send an e-mail to get price information? Jul 02 10:14:01 Because of the attitude shown Jul 02 10:14:07 * XorA is used to the world of having to get quotes and not just buying software Jul 02 10:14:14 and why should I go hunting for price information Jul 02 10:14:14 its normal practice these days Jul 02 10:14:15 ? Jul 02 10:14:25 XorA: for software? Jul 02 10:14:28 Laibsch: yes Jul 02 10:14:32 sad Jul 02 10:14:53 Laibsch: these guys are looking for partnerships rather than a straight sale, nokia will want to know if you can help them Jul 02 10:15:11 XorA: But it doesn't mean that you have to support it. Jul 02 10:15:19 Laibsch: do something cool, like google earth they can use, then you can expect discounts, compete and the cost goes up Jul 02 10:15:40 florian: no, but there is no point picking on employees here for company policies :-) Jul 02 10:16:10 XorA: true... Jul 02 10:16:10 XorA: It's ok, used to it. Jul 02 10:16:36 tcooksey: you get free asbestos suits :-) Jul 02 10:17:34 XorA: Nah, just develop thick skins after being told after _every_ patch review "you suck, your code sucks, you're not worthy to call yourself a troll". Jul 02 10:18:21 No, they don't do that really. Most trolls are pretty nice, but they do have annoyingly high standards when it comes to API reviews. Jul 02 10:19:13 and low standards when it comes to code? basing on Holger's blog posts it is easy to get that thinking Jul 02 10:19:22 good thing all trolls get fooled by hobbits :-) Jul 02 10:19:42 tcooksey: join the brisbane team :) Jul 02 10:19:51 Ah... Oslo Trolls vs Brisbane Trolls.... Internal polotics Jul 02 10:20:03 I couldn't possibly comment. Jul 02 10:20:11 :) Jul 02 10:22:50 Have I been sufficiently shouted at now? May I leave for lunch? :-) Hope you feel better having vented, it's always jolly good fun. Jul 02 10:24:31 tcooksey: sorry, that was not the plan Jul 02 10:42:02 zecke: I think it's just part of the job - I'm sure you've been shouted at about OE enough times. :-) Jul 02 11:05:00 more than you can imagine :D Jul 02 11:05:08 ~bon appetit Jul 02 11:05:09 methinks bon appetit is smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito. Buen apetito Bom Apetite. buen apetito Smaklig måltid!. Hyvää ruokahalua. Bo Proveito Jul 02 11:17:57 what's the oe git url? Jul 02 11:18:49 hmm, they'll beat up trolls, but not answer real questions :) Jul 02 11:19:59 git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev Jul 02 11:20:12 * Crofton|work observes typing the same thing into a google search window works well Jul 02 11:20:20 thanks Jul 02 11:20:39 The local Mexican place has a scottish pound in the their currency collection Jul 02 11:25:13 heh cool Jul 02 13:06:14 Did someone saw this build failure at glibc? http://pastebin.com/f7f6a824c Jul 02 13:16:07 * * OE Bug 4403 has been created by damien.lespiau(AT)gmail.com Jul 02 13:16:09 * * base.bbclass regexpr on .la files in oe_libinstall seems wrong Jul 02 13:16:11 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4403 Jul 02 13:25:07 * * OE Bug 4133 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 02 13:25:09 * * gtk (from python-pygtk) can't be imported from Python Jul 02 13:25:11 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4133 Jul 02 13:26:07 * * OE Bug 3495 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jul 02 13:26:09 * * Problems with exceptions with psyco 1.5 Jul 02 13:26:11 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3495 Jul 02 13:51:14 hy everybody!! Jul 02 13:51:15 someone italian or romanian? Jul 02 13:53:17 someone use a USB/Serial converter? i need a good one (my lasts experiences are bad) Jul 02 13:53:54 spanish here Jul 02 13:53:57 theeOnee Jul 02 13:54:21 I have had good luck with units based on the Prolific PL2303 chipset Jul 02 13:54:46 thanks asmola Jul 02 13:54:51 thanks asmola|work :) Jul 02 13:57:47 i asked because my english is not so good, so i search for someone who understand my writing..:-P Jul 02 14:11:12 <_theOne> no romanians or italians? Jul 02 14:25:06 * * OE Bug 4404 has been created by javiroman(AT)kernel-labs.org Jul 02 14:25:08 * * kernel-arch.bbclass and kernel.bbclass doesn't care about kernels >= 2.6.24 Jul 02 14:25:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4404 Jul 02 14:53:29 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r08199c52... 10/ (5 files in 5 dirs): conf/machine/cs-e9302.conf: New machine. Added defconfig for linux-2.6.24 but needs further tweaking. Jul 02 14:53:34 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r0ee4237d... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): add fso-console-image, remove mplayer from fso-image Jul 02 14:53:39 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rf57f3813... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Jul 02 14:53:39 boost-jam-native : Add support for boost-jam-native-3.1.16. Add a Jul 02 14:53:39 boost-jam-native.inc file. New version is Jul 02 14:53:39 DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" for now. Jul 02 14:53:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r12ce1d52... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-omap2-git: update beagleboard defconfig Jul 02 14:53:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r900e4d0d... 10/ (1 site/avr32-common): avr32 site: add libIDL_cv_long_long_format=${libIDL_cv_long_long_format=ll} Jul 02 14:53:54 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r270411b9... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-neuros_git.bb): linux-neuros git: bump SRCREV Jul 02 14:53:59 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9850af7d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libart: add avr32 art_config.h Jul 02 14:54:04 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * r410cd788... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): frameworkd: add conf-file and new RDEPENDS Jul 02 14:54:09 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r75ae568c... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux 2.6.24: update at32stk1000 defconfig Jul 02 14:54:14 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7c881b3f... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Jul 02 14:54:14 gcc 4.2.2: add more avr32 patches. Jul 02 14:54:14 * an image compiled from scratch boots straight into X, although the avahi seggault is still there Jul 02 14:54:19 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc07bb9df... 10/ (1 packages/gnash/gnash-minimal_cvs.bb): gnash-minimal: fix PV Jul 02 14:54:24 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdab6b9ac... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): linux 2.6.25: add support for at32stk1000 Jul 02 14:54:30 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r64064cb2... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux-openmoko-devel git catch up with defconfigs re. new touchscreen stuff Jul 02 14:54:34 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbcc003ab... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): xserver-kdrive-common 0.1 (openmoko/Xserver) start X on VT1 (marginally streamlining startup) Jul 02 14:54:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0cb6ae9a... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): linux-omap2 git: run dos2unix over patch files Jul 02 14:54:46 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * r8174cbe9... 10/ (1 packages/e17/e-wm_cvs.bb): Jul 02 14:54:46 e-wm: Make sure edbus is present (picked from org.openmoko.asu.stable) Jul 02 14:54:46 If edbus was present e picked it up. This lead to e eventually linking Jul 02 14:54:46 against dbus. Make sure that we always link against (e)dbus. We want dbus Jul 02 14:54:48 and this will solve the loading error of the illume module. Jul 02 14:54:50 Original author: Holger Hans Peter Freyther Jul 02 14:55:06 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * r0a2d2ceb... 10/ (1 packages/efl1/edbus_cvs.bb): Jul 02 14:55:06 e-dbus: edbus doesn't need efreet or ewl Jul 02 14:55:06 Original author: Carsten Haitzler Jul 02 14:55:06 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r61916fde... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): frameworkd git catch up with ophoned subsystem rename Jul 02 14:55:28 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0a4c4e91... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-omap2 git: disable rtc on beagle Jul 02 14:55:28 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf63d8998... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): python-psyco 1.5 update to 1.6. closes #3495 Jul 02 14:55:28 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * rea746cf2... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): illume: sync to org.openmoko.asu.dev Jul 02 15:01:18 shoragan: you can use --author on mtn ci (not that I really care) :) Jul 02 15:02:13 zecke, yea, but then i would have to state in the commit message that i merged it Jul 02 15:02:27 shoragan: no, you do not have Jul 02 15:02:43 or rather: we do not require it Jul 02 15:02:43 or is it easy in mtn to show who committed something? Jul 02 15:03:49 * kgilmer thinks that the bitbake recipe format comes from gentoo ebuilds. Jul 02 15:04:25 * kgilmer sees the light. a recipe is not python. Jul 02 15:05:16 kgilmer: hehe, yeah the format is ebuild derived Jul 02 15:05:56 zecke, yeah...i was looking through some ebuilds this morning and was thinking "this looks very familiar..." Jul 02 15:06:27 i was trying to pass params into do_mymethod(x,y), but then realized the right way of doing it. Jul 02 16:14:51 bye guys Jul 02 16:47:25 Did someone found a building error on glibc 2.6.1 and 2.7? I've seeing it for i586 Jul 02 16:48:47 XorA|gone: did I mention phone and gprs works on machine htckaiser? Jul 02 16:49:07 it's not in git yet Jul 02 16:49:19 dcordes: amazing Jul 02 16:49:38 dcordes: I need to see about a fixed wm6.1 rom on mine soon then :-) Jul 02 16:51:01 XorA|gone: some report it works when they open a telnet connection with haret.exe and put the boot commands from defaul.txt through it manually Jul 02 16:51:52 XorA|gone: I'll try and debug Jul 02 16:52:09 I suspect its purely a ram layout issue Jul 02 16:52:18 X11 as soon as I get free gprs stuff Jul 02 16:52:38 someone ship mickeyl a kaiser :-) Jul 02 16:52:43 XorA|gone: there are many speculations. on the other msms it works just fine Jul 02 16:52:58 I will terror you guys when I ssh'd in :P Jul 02 16:53:18 I got HSDPA here now, linux on that would be nice Jul 02 16:55:29 it's a hassle to setup the connection manually Jul 02 16:55:49 I made a console-image which at least has the device nodes setup Jul 02 16:57:55 XorA|gone: it should work with all sorts of connection Jul 02 16:58:18 only tried gprs so far though because of current lack of cheap data plan Jul 02 17:20:22 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r2c5fa7fc... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): hal: create volatiles *after* creating the haldaemon user Jul 02 17:57:32 holaaaaa Jul 02 17:57:42 alguien de barcelona ?????????? Jul 02 18:15:15 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r53ae728d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux omap2 git: disable apm for beagleboard Jul 02 19:45:50 hi Jul 02 21:00:03 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbf0388d9... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): swfdec: fix 0.4.0 and add 0.7.2 Jul 02 21:00:07 * * OE Bug 4405 has been created by javiroman(AT)kernel-labs.org Jul 02 21:00:08 * * php-native_5.2.0.bb and php_5.2.0.bb obsolete SRC_URI Jul 02 21:00:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4405 Jul 02 21:36:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3701d0f7... 10/ (1 packages/libsidplay/libsidplay_1.36.59.bb): libsidplay: add debian patch to build with gcc 4.3.x Jul 02 21:39:14 hey guys Jul 02 21:39:30 if I want to edit the source of a package before OE compiles it, how do I do that ? Jul 02 21:39:57 create a patch and add it to the .bb Jul 02 21:39:59 or Jul 02 21:40:07 if you want to do it manually use devshell Jul 02 21:40:16 I'd like to do it manually. Jul 02 21:40:18 bitbake -c devshell Jul 02 21:40:19 whats involved ? Jul 02 21:40:30 oh ok *tries that* Jul 02 21:40:32 in your local.conf, make sure you have an Inherit devshell somewhere Jul 02 21:41:09 devshell inserts itself as a shell right before do_compile Jul 02 21:41:24 so you can manually change source, look at environment vars etc. Jul 02 21:41:26 make changes Jul 02 21:41:29 then exit Jul 02 21:41:30 so if I make changes then what do I do ? Jul 02 21:41:39 ok Jul 02 21:41:43 so then it compiles Jul 02 21:41:50 run bitbake to configure/compile Jul 02 21:41:53 what if I need to revise my changes? rinse and repeat ? Jul 02 21:42:06 can do multiple things Jul 02 21:42:15 go back into devshell, run the package specific make clean Jul 02 21:42:16 cool Jul 02 21:42:19 make more changes Jul 02 21:42:31 then remove the stamps for the various bitbake steps Jul 02 21:42:40 and then bitbake to have it do the rest Jul 02 21:43:06 there is probably a cleaner way Jul 02 21:43:12 but thats what I do Jul 02 21:43:41 sometimes I actually fake the configure/compile steps by adding those stamps manually Jul 02 21:43:42 looks good to me Jul 02 21:43:43 any way to clean a package from bitbake? Jul 02 21:43:57 bitbake -c clean Jul 02 21:44:04 although that makes it delete itself Jul 02 21:44:05 how can I tell if a package is being built for the target or host ? Jul 02 21:44:07 not sure thats what you need Jul 02 21:44:17 I want to edit coreutils, but for my target Jul 02 21:44:39 does the package reside in tmp/work// ? Jul 02 21:44:56 if the workdir is for your target, then you should be ok Jul 02 21:45:05 Fique: "go back into devshell, run the package specific make clean" - this, but w/o devshell Jul 02 21:45:30 denix: sorry I don't know just yet Jul 02 21:45:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r73b3b337... 10/ (1 packages/swfdec/swfdec_0.7.2.bb): swfdec: fix DEPENDS Jul 02 21:46:08 there probably is a way I just haven't looked at all the bitbake do_s just yet Jul 02 21:46:25 ok, thanks Jul 02 21:51:09 ok so having modified the sourcecode, how do I force bitbake to rebuild the package (busybox) Jul 02 21:51:48 it seems to think its already done it Jul 02 21:52:26 ah, -f seems to have done the trick Jul 02 21:58:18 Spyro: Are you looking for bitbake -c rebuild ? Jul 02 21:58:29 DuckFault: sounds like it :) Jul 02 21:58:41 DuckFault: I managed with -f and compile :) Jul 02 21:58:49 but your way sounds better Jul 02 21:58:58 anyhow I now have busybox + stty line support Jul 02 21:59:00 rebuild deletes the workdir first Jul 02 21:59:05 so your changes are gone Jul 02 21:59:07 so I can now try out my e-series keypad driver :) Jul 02 22:00:36 Fique: He could try bitbake -c compile ; bitbake -c install Jul 02 22:01:28 compile doesnt work - you need to force it to do so Jul 02 22:01:34 (I added -f) Jul 02 22:02:32 yeah force works... it thinks the task is done because the stamp is there in tmp/stamps//PN-do_compile etc. etc. Jul 02 22:02:45 do_install... etc etc Jul 02 22:05:20 ah Jul 02 22:05:55 Spyro: do note what Fique said, if you modify your tmp/work area, rebuild will remove your changes and unpack the source again Jul 02 22:13:30 yep, noted - thanks Jul 03 01:31:22 ./quit Jul 03 02:43:06 * * OE Bug 4406 has been created by lynn.lin(AT)avocent.com Jul 03 02:43:09 * * shell-init: error retrieving current directory: Jul 03 02:43:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4406 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 03 02:59:57 2008