**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 04 02:59:57 2008 Jul 04 06:32:17 morning Jul 04 06:32:58 leau Jul 04 07:58:43 morning Jul 04 08:00:54 morning Jul 04 08:23:45 good morning Jul 04 08:24:31 ant|work: good morning,though its afti here :) Jul 04 08:25:28 ~ugt Jul 04 08:25:28 [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Jul 04 08:30:52 hrw: how's about perl status in Poky? (SNAFU in OE) Jul 04 08:32:45 same Jul 04 08:33:04 if we would have fix then we will merge it Jul 04 08:33:37 I saw you filed a couple of bugs already Jul 04 08:35:39 it seems the 'mantainer' of perl was Jeremy Puhlman Jul 04 08:36:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4d614683... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux-omap2 git: add oprofile patch for armv7a Jul 04 08:38:01 ant|work, ibot : (ref. time issue)please excuse the ignorance Jul 04 08:38:08 =) Jul 04 08:43:47 hrw: would you close oebug 4392 as duplicate of 3403? Jul 04 08:45:59 let me check Jul 04 08:49:03 done Jul 04 08:49:22 thx, have a look at 2611 too, pls Jul 04 08:50:05 * * OE Bug 4392 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 3403 by Jul 04 08:50:07 * * liburi-perl 1.35 r1 fails do_compile Jul 04 08:50:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4392 Jul 04 08:56:28 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r58e915ac... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): oprofile 0.9.3: add armv7a support Jul 04 09:01:29 ant|work: maybe - would have to look but now I have more improtantt stuff Jul 04 09:18:23 it's openembedded supporting proxy? Jul 04 09:20:53 if i'm tryin to "fetch" something but it's blocked by my corporation firewall, can i use a proxy? Jul 04 09:21:20 y had http_proxy & HTTP_PROXY env variables, but the fetch never goes through proxy Jul 04 09:21:23 any idea? Jul 04 09:32:32 methril: OE use wget - setup ~/.wgetrc maybe? Jul 04 09:32:48 i try Jul 04 09:33:20 thanks Jul 04 09:41:59 gm Jul 04 09:42:49 hi all Jul 04 09:43:29 hi florian Jul 04 09:47:34 hi all Jul 04 09:47:58 hi Esbe1 Jul 04 09:48:06 I might be holding some kind of presentation on OpenEmbedded this october Jul 04 09:48:14 any good presentations that I can "borrow" from? Jul 04 09:53:06 Koen, mickey|zzZZzz and rschuster might habe some Jul 04 09:56:20 do you know if they are in .eu timezones currently? Jul 04 09:57:19 All three I guess Jul 04 09:59:11 ok, thanks Jul 04 11:29:59 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8f996463... 10/ (1 packages/images/beagleboard-demo-image.bb): beagleboard demo image: add oprofile Jul 04 11:34:05 Koen does not do any irc Jul 04 11:34:59 not on this channel, no Jul 04 12:16:47 hi Jul 04 12:18:53 Can somebody tell me, where i can define wich package is build? For example there is navit_0.0.4.bb and navit_svn.bb, but where is defined, wich version gets build? Jul 04 12:19:55 bitbake checks PV (recipe), PREFERRED_VERSION (config), DEFAULT_PREFERENCE (recipe) values Jul 04 12:19:55 RedDog: latest, or PREFERRED_VERSION_navit="0.0.4" overrides this Jul 04 12:20:20 RedDog: hrw's answer is more precise Jul 04 12:20:30 tnx hrw :-) Jul 04 12:21:04 precise but not easy do understand for me :-( Jul 04 12:21:57 there is "PREFERRED_VERSION_navit ?= "0.0.3"" but no 0.0.3.bb file... Jul 04 12:24:37 RedDog: someone forgot to update it then Jul 04 12:25:12 but why the system choose 0.0.4 then and not svn? Jul 04 12:25:35 look at svn recipe Jul 04 12:25:43 does it has higher PV then 0.0.4 one? Jul 04 12:25:53 does it has DEFAULT_PREFERENCE set to negative? Jul 04 12:26:06 RedDog: navit is work in progress, atm speech-dispatcher is broken Jul 04 12:26:31 ah DEFAULT_PREFERENCE is set to negative ... Jul 04 12:27:40 @devels here : the bitbake recipe for dasher on oe .dev tree is outdated..dasher is longer on cvs gnome.. Jul 04 12:28:12 I manually moved the untarred source to tmp/work/arm..blah and worked Jul 04 12:28:19 yet the build fails Jul 04 12:28:38 can neone please give some pointers on why it is so ? Jul 04 12:29:16 no one used it probably Jul 04 12:30:00 hrw : but it would be nice to have it running on arm *pleading look* Jul 04 12:30:11 juchu ... the system now uses the _svn.bb file ... many thanks! Jul 04 12:30:23 kirtibr: submit patch to recipe via bugtracker? Jul 04 12:32:17 hrw : I doubt if just changing the SRC_URL will help..coz as I said I put the source manually yet apparently the options --without-gnome and --without-a11y are not being passed on ..they dont get reflected ..it still asks for gnome libs Jul 04 12:33:47 hrw : being a newbie, I didnt have much of an idea on how to explore why the options based by bitbake recipe are disregarded , so I resorted to a very ugly hack : changing the configure script after the configure stamp is put ..so that it takes false for gnome and a11y irrespective of the options Jul 04 12:35:21 hrw : the build went fine then, but it gives runtime errors :( Jul 04 12:35:43 EXTRA_OECONF += "--without-gnome --without-a11y" into recipe? Jul 04 12:36:24 hrw : if i m not wrong they are already there Jul 04 12:37:01 hrw : when I see the config.log or some similar..I can see those options being passed to configure script Jul 04 12:37:34 *some similar file Jul 04 12:39:18 kirtibr: I am running a test build now Jul 04 12:39:38 At first I ran into trouble with freetype but that has been resolved by pulling the latest OE changes Jul 04 12:39:51 the build is on its way and I'll take a quick look Jul 04 12:39:55 I checked the .bb file : it has extra_oeconf = " --with-gpe --without-gnome --without-a11y --without-speech" Jul 04 12:40:33 you can follow the progress at http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builders/Laibsch/ Jul 04 12:40:40 Laibsch :thanks..what arch are u running it for ? Jul 04 12:40:52 it's all in above URL Jul 04 12:41:06 ok Jul 04 12:41:23 do-fetch failed Jul 04 12:41:55 * hrw -> lunch Jul 04 12:42:39 Laibsch : its bound to Jul 04 12:42:44 Laibsch: the src Jul 04 12:42:47 _url Jul 04 12:43:03 is cvs @gnome and gnome has switched to svn Jul 04 12:43:10 dasher is no longer there Jul 04 12:43:41 what is the new url? Jul 04 12:43:50 uri Jul 04 12:44:44 Laibsch : sorry, I failed when i tried to set the url in the bb file..I manually untarred the src from Jul 04 12:45:00 kirtibr: are you a/the dev for dasher? Jul 04 12:45:05 or a user? Jul 04 12:45:09 Laibsch : inference.phy.cam.uk/dasher Jul 04 12:45:19 Laibsch : I m a user Jul 04 12:46:10 is it still being developped? Jul 04 12:46:28 Laibsch : what is being developed ? Jul 04 12:49:34 Laibsch : hello ? Jul 04 12:49:38 if there are still people who maintain the software Jul 04 12:49:46 please be patient Jul 04 12:49:47 Laibsch : yes.. Jul 04 12:49:52 unless you plan to pay ;-) Jul 04 12:49:57 try Jul 04 12:50:00 SRC_URI = "svn://svn.gnome.org/svn;module=dasher;date=20040828 \ Jul 04 12:50:28 Laibsch: infact in the last one year,its moved from version 3.2.0 to 4.6.2 Jul 04 12:50:37 close, but not yet 100% Jul 04 12:54:06 Laibsch :err...I am unable to follow the URL u gave ..browser issues...cud u please state the task going on ? Jul 04 13:13:10 kirtibr: How good are you with build systems? Jul 04 13:15:14 Laibsch : err..I have been working on this only for a month..may I know why u asked so ? Jul 04 13:17:30 do_fetch is fixed Jul 04 13:17:35 I get some compile errors Jul 04 13:17:42 and I don't want to spend more time on it Jul 04 13:24:44 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rf5868314... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): boost : Add boost.inc file. Jul 04 13:25:38 :( Jul 04 13:27:29 no, that is not :-( but :-) because *YOU* get to spend time on it ;-) Jul 04 13:27:53 I am about to commit the fix for the SRC_URI Jul 04 13:28:06 You can always ask me with questions you may have Jul 04 13:29:36 Laibsch : good point :) but I have spent like a week on it,got it to run on my arm board but it just shows the main window .."the dasher canvas " where the letters are displayed is blank ..I am guessing something is wrong with the build related to glade/xml/schemas but not having much of an idea on these,I am stuck..neways..thanks a lot for sparing the time :) Jul 04 13:30:06 let's see if we can get this thing to run Jul 04 13:40:38 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r932cae8c... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Jul 04 13:40:38 dasher: update SRC_URI from cvs to svn. Jul 04 13:40:38 * The revision should roughly be the same as before Jul 04 13:40:38 * this changeset gets us past do_fetch but do_compile fails Jul 04 13:49:13 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r1a0381ff... 10/ (1 packages/boost/boost_1.33.1.bb): boost : Remove DEFAULT_PREFERENCE from earlier commit. Jul 04 13:54:52 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r66665e31... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs.inc: dasher-gpe, not just dasher! Jul 04 14:12:50 * Crofton|work has days when he wished bitbake would tell when I mispelled a variable Jul 04 15:06:24 bye guys Jul 04 15:06:46 see you on guadec guys Jul 04 15:20:48 Is it worth getting a Neo Freerunner? Jul 04 15:28:57 Crofton|work: who knows -- I ordered on this morning. For me, its a handy research device if nothing else. Jul 04 15:29:11 Crofton|work: I'm really hoping to use it as a phone though as I don't use a cell phone that much Jul 04 15:29:41 I am pretty much only cell phone Jul 04 15:29:55 any suggestions as the best app in OE to demo video playback on a ARM system (GTK) Jul 04 15:30:04 but, there are some interesting things you can do with it Jul 04 15:31:15 Crofton|work: I use a asterisk system + voip to Teliax for most voice calls these days in the office, and I'm in the office most of the time. Jul 04 15:31:29 ah Jul 04 16:33:37 gnight! Jul 04 19:00:33 guys, when I want to add a new function to an OE machine configuration I copied the zaurus config file concept: MACHINE_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND = "leon3_make_installkit" Jul 04 19:00:33 leon3_make_installkit () { Jul 04 19:00:33 cd ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE} Jul 04 19:00:33 } Jul 04 19:00:51 but it dies on its bum in the parse stage Jul 04 19:01:52 any thoughts? any people? Jul 04 19:06:52 many people Jul 04 19:07:45 I often endup looking in the generated file in the temp directory to really understand what is happening Jul 04 19:09:54 a good thought. In this case however I don't think that anything actually gets done. It dies in the parse stage Jul 04 19:10:38 mattaw : the only times i have had parsing errors is when i edit/custom write bb recipes so even I m interested in knowing.. Jul 04 19:11:00 I have been porting oe to a new architecture: LEON3 Jul 04 19:11:23 however I need to build some rather funky build images Jul 04 19:11:40 so I am copying the zaurus Jul 04 19:12:57 however the syntax doesn't work Jul 04 19:12:58 leon3?? is this some sparc clone? Jul 04 19:14:21 that is the one Jul 04 19:14:49 the linux that comes with it is snapgear and to be frank it is so much duck tape and string Jul 04 19:15:20 my computer just died on me "101 C" critical temp reached :( Jul 04 19:15:21 reminds me of openzarus in the very early days Jul 04 19:15:41 keesj : you have some fault fans? Jul 04 19:16:35 no , just a laptop, jeans and OpenEmbedded Jul 04 19:18:02 heh. The best case of overheating we have had is some ipv6 work that could destroy (physically burn out) some cisco interface boards. They were not impressed Jul 04 19:33:07 right, gnight. Solved by using IMAGE_POSTPROCESSING_COMMAND instead of the previous one Jul 04 19:43:27 what is the status of the git proposal? Jul 04 19:44:54 http://oe.linuxtogo.org/wiki/GettingStarted is all messed up btw Jul 04 19:49:14 keesj : glad someone noticed :) the first para was supposed to have some imp. links Jul 04 19:49:25 keesj : they are missing now :( Jul 04 20:05:24 http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started Jul 04 20:11:55 err..I was wondering if the maintainers could change the "UseIt " link on http://oe.linuxtogo.org/ Jul 04 20:12:11 to point to the page cbrake mentioned Jul 04 20:13:47 http://www.openembedded.org goes to http://oe.linuxtogo.org/ Jul 04 20:15:11 cbrake: that looks better but is that the "official" content? Jul 04 20:18:16 keesj: hard to tell, but the original wiki does not seem to be getting any attention Jul 04 20:18:26 keesj: there are several of us working on the mediawiki version Jul 04 20:18:49 keesj: kind of like mtn/git -- in OE there are two paths :-( Jul 04 20:21:02 I am all for git , what wiki do I need to follow ? Jul 04 20:21:33 keesj: well, my vote is the mediawiki version, but that is just me Jul 04 20:22:29 keesj: the fact that I could never get a reliable RSS feed from the old site pretty much killed its usefullness for me Jul 04 20:22:35 keesj: feel free to improve :-) Jul 04 20:23:07 keesj: the mediawiki site has pretty good support from the core developers it seems, so it should eventually become the main wiki Jul 04 20:23:26 yes , I created an account there now :p Jul 04 20:23:26 keesj: just no one has time to work on it Jul 04 20:23:45 keesj: have at it :-) Jul 04 20:24:28 a lot to be said for simplicity -- especially when no one has time to even do the simple stuff Jul 04 21:24:00 anyone know offhand how well gstreamer playback of ogg-theora video works on ARM systems? Jul 04 22:20:46 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r893fa424... 10/ (1 packages/libtool/libtool-native_2.2.4.bb): libtool native 2.2.4: stage libltdl source tree for packages that want to rebuild libltdl (e.g. pulse and gnash) Jul 04 22:56:41 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rba8403a8... 10/ (1 packages/gnash/gnash.inc packages/gnash/gnash_0.8.3.bb): gnash: fix build to use external libtool Jul 05 02:17:06 * * OE Bug 4409 has been created by Zismylaptop(AT)gmail.com Jul 05 02:17:08 * * RNDIS Ethernet Gadget fails on Windows with Linux 2.6.24 Jul 05 02:17:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4409 Jul 05 02:22:58 quick question... I've recently had time to fiddle with OE again so I've checked out the org.openembedded.dev tree but I seem to be missing a generic.conf? Jul 05 02:23:22 is that just gone or is there something here I'm missing? Jul 05 02:34:54 it was renamed minimal.conf Jul 05 02:35:04 now we need to make it work :) Jul 05 02:35:26 DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" Jul 05 02:35:29 is your best bet Jul 05 02:35:54 fireworks over, time for bed Jul 05 02:36:34 ahhh ok... thanks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 05 02:59:57 2008