**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 31 02:59:57 2008 Oct 31 08:51:26 morning Oct 31 08:51:38 ~nslookup home.haerwu.biz Oct 31 08:51:42 home.haerwu.biz is 89.78.173.235 Oct 31 09:31:00 has anyone tried to build ångström 2008.1 with the machine db1200? Oct 31 09:31:05 (or feels like trying) :) Oct 31 10:00:26 db1200? what it was? Oct 31 10:02:40 hrw, mips based machine Oct 31 10:02:43 (without FPU) Oct 31 10:06:08 mips(el) stuff in OE needs lot of love Oct 31 10:41:06 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r037319d0bf 10openembedded.git/packages/icu/icu_3.6.bb: icu 3.6: sed binconfig file so that -I/usr/include doesn't end up in cflags for e.g. webkit Oct 31 10:41:07 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rf7b469d0fa 10openembedded.git/packages/webkit/webkit-gtk_svn.bb: webkit-gtk: bump PR to get icu binconfig fix Oct 31 10:45:57 Is the current procedure for submitting patches to submit to bugzilla or the mailing list? Oct 31 10:51:35 bugzilla afaik Oct 31 10:54:49 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rfd9078558b 10openembedded.git/packages/glibc/glibc_2.6.1.bb: glibc 2.6.1: bump PR for package.bbclass change Oct 31 10:56:50 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rd00e1cb3d1 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: add claws-mail Oct 31 10:59:12 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r6628886e85 10openembedded.git/packages/initscripts/ (initscripts-1.0/bootmisc.sh initscripts_1.0.bb): initscripts: only run ldconfig on boot when ld.so.conf is present Oct 31 11:05:08 window /0 Oct 31 11:05:16 sorry :-/ Oct 31 11:10:50 Jay7: Thought so, the wiki says the ml though. Oct 31 11:23:28 florian: are you around? Oct 31 11:29:25 Gah. bugzilla UI fail. Oct 31 11:29:49 ant_work: yes Oct 31 11:30:00 hi flo Oct 31 11:30:32 straight to the point: x11-image has a problem with su (busybox needs SUID) Oct 31 11:30:45 no probs for console-image and opie-image...??? Oct 31 11:31:08 ant_work: that shouldn't be necessary Oct 31 11:31:24 only gpe seems complaining Oct 31 11:42:43 isn't su in tinylogin? Oct 31 11:44:11 hi, i update my oe tree and suddenly i get these errors while building my code....http://nopaste.com/p/aqVr4aD8cb Oct 31 11:44:16 builds fine on the host Oct 31 11:44:43 i am having a problem building pth - it says unsupported glib(c) and or platform: http://rafb.net/p/2HmVRl40.html Oct 31 11:45:28 ^^ Oct 31 11:45:30 hmm Oct 31 11:47:11 libtool...hmm Oct 31 11:47:53 someone remember how to dump all properties of python variable/table? Oct 31 11:48:57 got it - vars() Oct 31 12:36:08 pb__: hey Oct 31 12:36:13 hi ant_work Oct 31 12:37:43 I'd like to ask you about OEABI compat: if we remove it, what's happen if one tries to use the kernel with another distro (eg. Debian, Android,...)? Oct 31 12:38:18 blah...what could happen even Oct 31 12:39:24 are the other distro around already EABI ? Oct 31 12:39:39 some of them are, some of them probably aren't. Oct 31 12:39:48 I think debian is in the process of switching to eabi. Oct 31 12:39:55 no idea about android, but I would expect that it is. Oct 31 12:40:35 but, if you want to use an oabi distro, obviously you will need to build an oabi-capable kernel. Oct 31 12:40:56 the other optimizations you described (e.g. frame pointers) sghould be less dangerous,isn't? Oct 31 12:41:47 none of the optimisations are "dangerous" as such, though things like abi choice do need to be synchronised with the rest of your distro. Oct 31 12:41:57 frame pointers don't have any userspace impact so yes, you can flip that switch at any time Oct 31 12:42:29 I ask because I blindly provided an ext3 capable kernel + modules to one guy on OESF/Debian Oct 31 12:42:49 OABI_COMPAT is st, though Oct 31 12:44:12 I went a little further and tried to compile for c7x0 in THUMB mode Oct 31 12:44:32 the build was fine and at first sight I did not note size-changes Oct 31 12:45:04 only first sight... then I went to work... Oct 31 12:46:16 pb__: I just included tune-thumb.inc and set ARM_INSTRUCTION_SET = "thumb" Oct 31 12:46:21 THUMB_INTERWORK = "yes" Oct 31 12:46:35 in machine/c7x0.conf Oct 31 12:46:54 forgot something ...? Oct 31 12:50:26 pb__: btw about tinylogin I could only find that old discussion http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2008-February/004271.html Oct 31 12:50:41 ant_work: that should be ok, but it's possible that something else is clobbering your CFLAGS. Oct 31 12:50:57 you might need to check the log.do_compile, or "bitbake -e | grep ^CFLAGS", to find out what is actually happening. Oct 31 12:51:06 if all is well, you should find "-mthumb" in there. Oct 31 12:51:13 how can I inspect the binaries? od ? Oct 31 12:51:22 ah..sorry..ok Oct 31 12:52:11 ant_work: ah, I see. Oct 31 12:52:37 regarding that busybox vs tinylogin discussion, I regret to say that I tend to agree with koen. Oct 31 12:52:49 it was late..perhaps I logged in as root in console-image. Opie logs in as root too IIRC Oct 31 12:52:59 but only gpe-login fails Oct 31 12:53:18 although tinylogin is indeed old and "dead" in some sense, it is relatively small, stable and easy to audit for security holes. busybox is large, rapidly changing, and harder to trust to the same level. Oct 31 12:53:39 I see Oct 31 12:53:58 but if busybox is dropping the privs, then no probs Oct 31 12:54:25 this is a threat, I agree Oct 31 12:56:53 it's all very well to say that busybox drops setuid for applets that don't need it, but there is so much code sharing in busybox that it would be very difficult to audit all possible codepaths. Oct 31 12:57:00 why doesn't git pull --rebase work? Oct 31 12:57:19 * NAiL agrees with pb__ and koen Oct 31 12:57:27 for example, if you change some utility function in libbb, you would need to audit all setuid applets to see if they might make use of it (either directly or indirectly) to see whether it is a potential security hazard. Oct 31 12:57:46 tinylogin is self-contained and doesn't have that problem. Oct 31 12:58:22 Crofton|work: er, can you be any more specific? is there an error message, say? Oct 31 12:58:38 balister@localhost openembedded]$ git pull --rebase Oct 31 12:58:39 Usage: /usr/bin/git-fetch ... Oct 31 12:58:41 :) Oct 31 12:58:50 heh Oct 31 12:58:53 what version of git do you have? Oct 31 12:58:57 this is what getting started says to do Oct 31 12:59:09 1.5.3.3 Oct 31 12:59:15 I have git 1.5.6.3 which does recognise that option Oct 31 12:59:24 hmmm Oct 31 12:59:25 anyway, I guess you can just leave out "--rebase" Oct 31 12:59:33 that does work Oct 31 12:59:44 but our got masters have suggested --rebase Oct 31 13:00:00 well then run rebase as a seperate operation Oct 31 13:00:15 or upgrade git :-D Oct 31 13:00:35 I just want the docs to be useful to people who are not git masters Oct 31 13:00:40 like me ..... Oct 31 13:00:49 I guess "git pull; git rebase" should work with all versions. Oct 31 13:00:59 updating the documents to say that would probably be a fine idea. Oct 31 13:01:17 * Crofton|work checks Oct 31 13:01:27 please *insist* about creating local branch and committing there Oct 31 13:02:06 though, actually, it's still not quite that straightforward because you can't rebase if you have uncommitted changes. I guess to be really all-inclusive you would have to stash, pull, rebase, unstash or some such. Oct 31 13:02:23 heh Oct 31 13:02:31 * Crofton|work has uncommitted changes Oct 31 13:02:34 he Oct 31 13:02:41 * Crofton|work misses mtn Oct 31 13:02:41 git status Oct 31 13:02:46 a little Oct 31 13:03:00 Crofton|work: well, I wouldn't get too hung up on rebasing. it isn't strictly necessary to rebase every time you pull. Oct 31 13:03:37 pb_, the problem is I am going to edit something written by someone who knows a lot more about git than me Oct 31 13:03:58 but, I think I will remove the rebase from getting started Oct 31 13:04:00 heh, or me for that matter Oct 31 13:04:06 since for read only, you do not need it Oct 31 13:04:09 heh Oct 31 13:04:27 I think überhacker zecke wrote that document Oct 31 13:04:41 I think he did the phrase book Oct 31 13:04:52 which getting started was based on Oct 31 13:05:04 ah yeah, probably Oct 31 13:06:58 reabse is only helpful for people who plan to commit? Oct 31 13:07:21 git-rebase - Forward-port local commits to the updated upstream head Oct 31 13:07:22 git pull --rebase -> no merge commit Oct 31 13:07:38 so I will pull it from getting started Oct 31 13:07:52 bbl Oct 31 13:07:59 becuase 99% of the people using that do not commit ... Oct 31 13:08:00 gn Oct 31 13:08:35 yes, but they loose their changes Oct 31 13:08:55 without committing on local branch Oct 31 13:09:21 but the solution to that is git stash Oct 31 13:09:38 getting started is to get people going Oct 31 13:09:43 if one has a local branch you don't seem to need stash Oct 31 13:09:47 one command less Oct 31 13:09:54 we will need further documents on managing local changes etc Oct 31 13:10:06 --rebase is causing trouble Oct 31 13:11:36 you know, there are people like me without write privs, so I have to keep my changes somewhere, thus I created a local branch from org.openembedded.dev Oct 31 13:12:06 and pull --rebase works beautifully..my changes are stacked at the end Oct 31 13:12:19 and th history seems sane Oct 31 13:12:48 actually git-rebase is not an easy cake...http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-rebase.html Oct 31 13:14:48 we need more workflow git docs Oct 31 13:15:14 there was a good link in wiki Oct 31 13:18:57 http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitCheatSheet Oct 31 13:30:34 http://nopaste.com/p/aqVr4aD8cb <-- anyone know why i am getting this? :( Oct 31 14:09:29 hi thesing Oct 31 14:10:08 morning all Oct 31 14:25:53 03Robert Schuster  07org.openembedded.dev * rddbfb1c527 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Added midpath 0.3rc1 entry. Oct 31 14:44:22 hi woglinde Oct 31 14:52:06 hi Oct 31 14:52:27 hi henning Oct 31 14:52:33 woglinde: we got spare TFTs Oct 31 14:52:44 robert I know Oct 31 14:52:49 woglinde: ok :) Oct 31 14:52:50 I signed the parcel Oct 31 14:53:01 woglinde: so you can easily connect the overo to it Oct 31 14:53:18 zecke gave me an other battery Oct 31 14:53:25 so I can test the neo Oct 31 14:54:15 woglinde: very nice Oct 31 14:54:48 woglinde: and there is a n810 on your desk Oct 31 14:54:48 yeah I hope I can finish l4 support over the weekend Oct 31 14:54:53 ah Oct 31 14:55:06 it arvied now Oct 31 14:55:07 fine Oct 31 14:55:10 woglinde: l4 support? where? in OE? Oct 31 14:55:16 jupp Oct 31 14:55:18 in oe Oct 31 14:55:22 woglinde: totally kewl! Oct 31 14:55:28 jepp Oct 31 14:55:36 thats why I will try it Oct 31 15:03:02 hi kergoth Oct 31 15:03:08 hi pb Oct 31 15:03:11 hey Oct 31 15:03:11 hi kergoth Oct 31 15:03:17 hi woglinde Oct 31 15:09:52 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rea662c1572 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Oct 31 15:09:52 linux omap git: add patch that implements downscaling for the overlay Oct 31 15:09:52 * this fixes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/2946825478/ Oct 31 15:12:26 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * rab81648dc5 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/mx31ads.conf: Oct 31 15:12:26 mx31ads.conf: remove extra PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS Oct 31 15:12:26 * PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS is now handled by the .tune files Oct 31 15:12:26 * patch comes from Mark Brown Oct 31 15:12:26 * closes bug 4788 Oct 31 15:12:57 woglinde: can you give a hint about the busybox/suid discussion? I could not find anything recent Oct 31 15:13:50 ant hm Oct 31 15:14:00 ant you can discuss this with pb Oct 31 15:14:02 *g* Oct 31 15:14:08 he likes suid falg Oct 31 15:14:27 you are against,isn't Oct 31 15:14:49 ant_work its free software Oct 31 15:14:53 basically we don't trust busibox enough ;-) Oct 31 15:14:58 you can do you own thing Oct 31 15:15:30 I ask because something has changed in the last weeks..older x11-images allowed 'su' Oct 31 15:28:53 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r113ebef499 10openembedded.git/packages/xorg-xserver/ (xserver-xorg/beagleboard/xorg.conf xserver-xorg_1.4.2.bb): xserver xorg: have beagleboard use xf86-video-omapfb to gain XV support Oct 31 15:29:04 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rb8ca677049 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/beagleboard.conf: beagleboard.conf: s/fbdev/omapfb/ for xserver Oct 31 15:29:04 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * ra89c5801fe 10openembedded.git/packages/angstrom/angstrom-x11-base-depends.bb: angstrom-x11-base depends: bump PR for XSERVER change Oct 31 15:29:04 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * ra00547e219 10openembedded.git/packages/tasks/task-x11.bb: task-x11: bump PR for XSERVER change Oct 31 15:32:05 mickeyl: good morning Oct 31 15:36:56 good morning pb__ Oct 31 15:37:09 hey mickeyl Oct 31 15:37:18 kergoth: ! Oct 31 15:37:20 how are things? Oct 31 15:37:42 pretty good, keeping busy. you? Oct 31 15:42:19 same here. Openmoko still sucking most of my time. What's left is taken by diving into iPhone development Oct 31 15:44:35 ah, fun Oct 31 15:45:07 * kergoth actually stopped using a cell phone, just use home & work now, and will get a crappy prepaid one to keep in the car for emergencies Oct 31 15:48:45 * cbrake needs to get freerunner working well enough on pre-paid sim card to ditch monthly cell phone plan .. Oct 31 16:07:41 bbl Oct 31 16:14:04 mickeyl: iPhone development ... eek Oct 31 16:14:41 As long as it pays the bills... it's ony software ;) Oct 31 16:18:01 * kergoth should spend some more time poking oe into being happy under Mac OS X this weekend Oct 31 16:22:11 kergoth: ya, that'd be nice Oct 31 16:22:19 * thebohemian prefers letting the work on free software pay the bills ;) Oct 31 16:22:35 sure Oct 31 16:22:51 mwester: but everyone is free to do whatever one wants :) Oct 31 16:22:55 my plan is to offer platform-independent services though Oct 31 16:23:10 like... advising the best platform for a given problem Oct 31 16:23:17 which is -- unfortunately -- not always a free one Oct 31 16:23:22 just wondered what mr. fso.org is doing on that platform Oct 31 16:24:08 * mwester is much in favor of pragmatism ;) Oct 31 16:24:37 I'd like to have a mobile think tank company in one or two years that covers windows mobile and symbian as well to the linux-based platforms Oct 31 16:24:43 so I have to do some work towards that Oct 31 16:25:05 * stefan_schmidt makes a signature out of that Oct 31 16:25:16 mickeyl: Now I got you! :) Oct 31 16:25:27 eeks Oct 31 16:25:28 * mickeyl hides Oct 31 16:25:39 didn't see you were listening Oct 31 16:25:46 want to quit now? :D Oct 31 16:25:56 * stefan_schmidt bought a Wii + second controller + wii balance board today Oct 31 16:26:06 hi everyone i'm having trouble with my OE build for beagleboard. I was wondering is there was a reason that shasum-native.bb would fail on the do_complie stage yet leave no informatio in the log files Oct 31 16:26:12 Time to get fit at home again. :) Oct 31 16:26:17 he Oct 31 16:26:17 h Oct 31 16:26:20 sounds fun Oct 31 16:26:35 mickeyl: well, besides wimo and symbian I still have a lot ideas for mobile open Oct 31 16:26:38 So, no Oct 31 16:26:46 (Wii) I hope so Oct 31 16:27:01 macneib, van you pastebin the build messages? Oct 31 16:27:06 ~pastebin Oct 31 16:27:07 (Think tank) We have some nice idea exchange today in this regard Oct 31 16:27:07 [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste Oct 31 16:27:08 sure 1 sec Oct 31 16:27:19 stefan_schmidt: good! Oct 31 16:27:21 mickeyl: We should put this on the agenda for the next meeting Oct 31 16:27:37 stefan_schmidt: agreed. time is running and we have to honor the masterplan(tm) ;) Oct 31 16:28:03 mickeyl: yeah, still have my masterplan git repo here from my last burn out phase :) Oct 31 16:28:18 hehe, righto Oct 31 16:29:36 http://pastebin.com/d7394386c Oct 31 16:33:00 i should also mention that the log file that i was refered to was empty. Oct 31 16:43:06 I have an issue when baking the xterminal-image, unable to create rootfs http://pastebin.com/m55ce54fa though i can sucessfully back minimal-image, any ideas? Oct 31 16:44:53 toggles_w hm then xterminal-image seems broken Oct 31 16:45:18 Angstrom-xterminal-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20081030-x86.rootfs.ext3 Oct 31 16:45:22 woglinde: thanks :-( Oct 31 16:45:24 why the hacl ext3? Oct 31 16:45:33 macneib, line 20 confuses me Oct 31 16:45:37 this seems really broken Oct 31 16:45:39 that is likely the issue Oct 31 16:46:16 there is something funky in your setup Oct 31 16:46:42 woglinde: hacl ? Oct 31 16:46:45 hack Oct 31 16:46:49 hm Oct 31 16:47:01 genext2fs: group descr 8. free blocks count == 0 (corrupted fs?) Oct 31 16:47:06 never saw such an error Oct 31 16:47:12 oh Oct 31 16:47:21 well i've been seeing it for the last week ;-) Oct 31 16:53:15 ok i'll rip everything out and start again Oct 31 16:57:31 huh, git-revert is going away in favor of git-cherry-pick -R Oct 31 16:57:58 if this patch ont he list goes in, anyway Oct 31 16:58:15 khem, any idea if it'd be possible for gcc-cross to provide libstdc++ (as it does now) and libstdc++-dev ? Oct 31 17:00:41 toggles_w, just a thought, but out of space on the image? Oct 31 17:01:00 I forget exactly that that error looks like, off hand Oct 31 17:02:02 Crofton: isn't line 20 just OE doing a cleanhouse before restarting a build process? Oct 31 17:02:05 Tartarus: possibly, any idea how to make it bigger? Oct 31 17:02:15 yeah, sec Oct 31 17:02:31 IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext2 ?= "65536" Oct 31 17:02:32 IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext2.gz ?= "65536" Oct 31 17:02:32 IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext3 ?= "65536" Oct 31 17:02:32 IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext3.gz ?= "65536" Oct 31 17:02:37 modify in your local.conf, w/o ?= Oct 31 17:03:16 line 20 says "ERROR" Oct 31 17:03:54 openzaurus-sa shouldn't appear there Oct 31 17:03:56 at all Oct 31 17:04:07 ok apparently i can't count Oct 31 17:04:12 thanks Oct 31 17:05:27 I am doing a clean beagle build atm and it is way past that point now .... Oct 31 17:08:59 i used http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardAndOpenEmbeddedGit Oct 31 17:09:01 as a reference Oct 31 17:15:41 pastebin local.conf? Oct 31 17:23:34 hi gregoiregentil Oct 31 17:24:32 Hello Woglinde Oct 31 17:24:43 Always nice that you say hello ;-) Oct 31 17:27:54 uh intrepid released yesterday Oct 31 17:28:24 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 Oct 31 17:28:24 | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Oct 31 17:28:32 Crofton yes Oct 31 17:28:33 hmm, this happened to someone else? Oct 31 17:28:40 bugreport for this Oct 31 17:28:44 is in the tracker Oct 31 17:28:53 whats libgio? Oct 31 17:28:58 never heard of it before Oct 31 17:28:59 dunno Oct 31 17:28:59 yes. I got the problem Oct 31 17:29:08 I fixed it if you are interested ;-) Oct 31 17:29:13 let me find the patch: Oct 31 17:29:18 in the bug tracker? Oct 31 17:29:21 gregoiregentil please put it in the bugtracker Oct 31 17:29:29 I will check it in Oct 31 17:29:38 sorry, I didn't because I patched it recently Oct 31 17:29:42 let me find it - one second Oct 31 17:29:44 bbiab, need to look for something downstairs Oct 31 17:29:48 thanks guys! Oct 31 17:29:53 bye crofton Oct 31 17:31:07 http://pastebin.com/d61cbeb1a Oct 31 17:31:16 This is the patch for lgio Oct 31 17:31:44 hm Oct 31 17:31:49 thanks Oct 31 17:32:00 wonder why we do not use autotools_stage Oct 31 17:32:08 it took me a while to find it though it was very simple... Oct 31 17:34:39 gregoiregentil hm what was your surename *g* Oct 31 17:35:10 woglinde: not sure to get your question. what do you mean? Oct 31 17:35:53 gregoiregentil you provided the patch Oct 31 17:35:58 so I want you give the credits Oct 31 17:36:02 in the commit message Oct 31 17:36:10 hm odd there is no bugreport yet Oct 31 17:36:14 OK. thanks ;-) Oct 31 17:36:24 my name is "Gregoire Gentil" Oct 31 17:36:31 but I do not rember where you surename starts Oct 31 17:36:40 my first name is Gregoire Oct 31 17:36:41 anyone object if i propose a talk at SCALE next year with the topic being OE? Oct 31 17:36:44 my last name is Gentil Oct 31 17:36:57 kgilmer +1 from me Oct 31 17:37:00 southern california linux expo Oct 31 17:37:11 kgilmer: +1 from me too Oct 31 17:38:03 ok cool, well i'll give it a shot :) Oct 31 17:38:10 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * rbfa489ee37 10openembedded.git/packages/glib-2.0/glib-2.0-native_2.18.0.bb: Oct 31 17:38:10 glib-2.0-native: fix installation of libgio Oct 31 17:38:10 * because we are not using autotools_stage for Oct 31 17:38:10 all stuff, libgio was missed Oct 31 17:38:10 * patch was provided by Gregoire Gentil Oct 31 17:40:16 hi vivijim Oct 31 17:40:30 hi woglinde Oct 31 17:40:37 hi guys Oct 31 17:42:27 hm afert hdmi and dvi Oct 31 17:42:30 now displayport Oct 31 17:42:42 i guess i feel a little wierd submitting a talk as i'm not an official oe contributor Oct 31 17:43:00 kgilmer I do not see a problem Oct 31 17:43:14 for the project its better to get attraction Oct 31 17:43:40 alright, sounds good woglinde. Oct 31 17:44:44 kgilmer better ask on the ml Oct 31 17:44:59 ok Oct 31 17:45:03 but I think mickeyl rp pb or zecke will not argue against you Oct 31 17:45:25 well if there are others going to scale we should probably coordinate Oct 31 17:45:28 ml is a good idea Oct 31 17:45:29 thx Oct 31 17:45:42 kgilmer, we are always glad for people to give talks Oct 31 17:45:49 re crofton Oct 31 17:45:56 crofon lib-glib native is fixed Oct 31 17:46:01 woglinde, checking patch now Oct 31 17:46:09 did you bump PR Oct 31 17:46:12 args Oct 31 17:46:15 sorry Oct 31 17:46:18 damnit Oct 31 17:46:22 btw is there an offical oe talk at fosdem? Oct 31 17:46:26 I forget that a lot Oct 31 17:46:39 kgilmer, usually we have a booth Oct 31 17:46:50 they frown on the same project giving talks all the time Oct 31 17:47:01 ah ic Oct 31 17:47:03 they want to give exposure to as many projects as possile Oct 31 17:47:09 makes sense Oct 31 17:47:12 thanks crofton Oct 31 17:47:13 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r9bbe04e5e8 10openembedded.git/packages/glib-2.0/glib-2.0-native_2.18.0.bb: glib-2.0-native: bump PR Oct 31 17:47:18 however, a buglab talk that mentioend OW might be good :) Oct 31 17:47:37 but you would want to talk about why your stuff was cool Oct 31 17:47:40 yeah i think i'll be submitting a talk at fosdem as well Oct 31 17:47:46 right.. Oct 31 17:47:48 and useful to free software developers Oct 31 17:48:04 it's my first fosdem so i'm not quite sure the orientation of the crowd Oct 31 17:48:23 hm Oct 31 17:48:31 mostly straight Oct 31 17:48:34 ha Oct 31 17:48:36 maybee I can go to fosdem this time Oct 31 17:48:36 slam Oct 31 17:48:38 90% male Oct 31 17:48:45 :) Oct 31 17:49:13 well the bug has a lot of java stuff, so i will probably talk most about that. but in the past some conferences i've been too didn't seem to care much for that language... Oct 31 17:49:49 the other sort of strangeness is the bug is a product, albiet open hw and software, so it doesn't really qualify as a 'project' in the fosdem sense, does it? Oct 31 17:50:10 submit and see if they accept it :) Oct 31 17:50:55 yep we'll see. thx Crofton|work Oct 31 17:51:11 good luck Oct 31 17:51:25 even with the java content, it would be nice to see a talk Oct 31 17:53:26 kgilmer I do not know the rules of fosdem Oct 31 17:53:35 kgilmer better ask mickeyl about it Oct 31 17:53:53 in berlin on the linuxtag you can either be particpate as firm or as project Oct 31 17:55:02 thanks woglinde, i'll check with him. my main goal in going to fosdem is to meet as many oe folks as I can...but it would also be nice to talk about BUG. Oct 31 17:56:25 diner now Oct 31 17:56:26 till later Oct 31 17:56:34 toggles_w, did that work? Oct 31 17:56:45 Hi Crofton, I build OE from scratch again and still same error. openzarus-sa shouldn't have any part of the build for beagleboard do you know where i should start looking to tease this one out? Oct 31 17:56:57 Tartarus: nope, same thing, just finished baking Oct 31 17:57:09 aw, k Oct 31 17:57:16 thanks though Oct 31 17:57:41 can you pastebin local.conf Oct 31 17:57:49 what image are you building? Oct 31 17:59:31 http://pastebin.com/d7394386c Oct 31 18:00:51 pastebin local.conf also Oct 31 18:01:21 the only thing i see that raises a flag is the METADATA_BRANCH = "org.openembedded.dev" Oct 31 18:01:37 that seems funny Oct 31 18:01:44 I think that branch went away Oct 31 18:01:54 since that perhaps should be METADATA_BRANCH = "openembedded" Oct 31 18:01:59 right? Oct 31 18:02:15 the file structure would is like that Oct 31 18:02:25 1 sec let me post local.cong Oct 31 18:02:26 I'm not sure what that var does .... Oct 31 18:02:56 DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" Oct 31 18:02:56 BBFILES = "$OE_HOME/openembedded/packages/*/*.bb" Oct 31 18:02:56 TMPDIR = "$OE_HOME/tmp" Oct 31 18:02:56 MACHINE = "beagleboard" Oct 31 18:02:56 ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" Oct 31 18:03:05 sorry should've pastebin'd that Oct 31 18:03:06 macneib, pastebin it .... Oct 31 18:03:31 http://pastebin.com/m63dcd08 Oct 31 18:04:20 and here's the profile.sh Oct 31 18:04:20 http://pastebin.com/m4eba8a80 Oct 31 18:11:25 I don't even know where to begin to troubleshoot this one Oct 31 18:16:12 macneib, hey, you having problems with angstrom? Oct 31 18:16:40 yes i'm stuck for now Oct 31 18:16:43 same here Oct 31 18:16:48 (but on a db1200) Oct 31 18:16:53 getting some infi-something error Oct 31 18:17:02 (dont remember exactly since i have problems with it at work Oct 31 18:17:14 think the guy i work with mailed to the mailing list Oct 31 18:17:27 glibc fails Oct 31 18:18:22 I think it's a configuation error right now it wants to find openzarus but AFAIK everything should be setup for a beagleboard build Oct 31 18:18:32 hi all Oct 31 18:18:44 though i'll know more once i start searching Oct 31 18:19:06 thanks for the heads-up i'll keep the glibc error in mind Oct 31 18:19:59 gl Oct 31 18:20:05 hopefully someone will answer to our mailing list post :) Oct 31 18:21:20 macneib, do you have anything funny in the directories in your BBPATH Oct 31 18:21:26 I do not see anything obvious Oct 31 18:22:34 the only thing i can think of is a double /beableboard/beagleboard/conf directory Oct 31 18:22:52 i check again Oct 31 18:25:08 macneib, you might also try a git pull Oct 31 18:28:12 did git pull Oct 31 18:29:11 i'm having a hardtime understanding why openzaurs-sa is causing an error, there is no relationship between beagle and ozar right? Oct 31 18:29:22 right Oct 31 18:29:45 I do not know how it is creeping in to the depends/rdepends Oct 31 18:30:08 very strange... then it most likely a configuration issue somewhere Oct 31 18:30:16 hey guys Oct 31 18:30:26 denix, hi Oct 31 18:30:27 hi denix Oct 31 18:31:27 macneib: I'm trying to understand your problem... you mentioned openzaurus-sa - is that the problem? Oct 31 18:31:40 it is the first strange message Oct 31 18:32:01 hi denix: here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/d7394386c Oct 31 18:32:42 i reference the tuturial exactky from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardAndOpenEmbeddedGit Oct 31 18:32:42 that message is harmless - I'm seeing it all the time I build the kernel Oct 31 18:32:58 hmm Oct 31 18:33:12 the actual problem is you are unable to build shasum-native Oct 31 18:33:18 hmm so then next probem is shasum-native Oct 31 18:33:22 do you have logs? Oct 31 18:33:29 logs are empty Oct 31 18:33:37 ERROR: see log in /home/macneib/oe/tmp/work/i686-linux/shasum-native-1.0-r1/temp/log.do_compile.9470 Oct 31 18:33:46 pastebin that file for us Oct 31 18:34:56 no data in log Oct 31 18:35:30 which is not very conducive to solving this problem Oct 31 18:35:57 ok, go to /home/macneib/oe/tmp/work/i686-linux/shasum-native-1.0-r1/temp and see what files you have there Oct 31 18:38:03 i have 6 log.do_compile.XXXX 1 log.do_configure.XXXX 6 run.do_compile.XXXX and one run.do_configure.XXXX Oct 31 18:38:42 the logs are all empty and the run.do contain variables Oct 31 18:39:04 and script Oct 31 18:40:49 hmm, strangely my logs for shasum-native are all empty too... but it doesn't fail Oct 31 18:41:17 is it possible to work around shasum-native? Oct 31 18:43:11 i doubt it is but it's really difficult to troubleshoot mystery errors Oct 31 18:43:33 maybe it's halloween ghost-like issues Oct 31 18:44:58 can you add BBDEBUG="yes" in your local.conf and run this - bitbake shasum-native Oct 31 18:46:15 oh just going to venture a guess here but the difference between :NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0: started and the 'r1' in the next line NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0-r1: task do_compile: started Oct 31 18:47:02 trying now Oct 31 18:48:21 morning Oct 31 18:48:32 hrw: hi Oct 31 18:52:45 hi hrw Oct 31 18:53:43 btw, devshell tries to run gnome-terminal and supposed to honor TERMCMD var, but looks like it doesn't... Oct 31 18:55:21 it fails here's the link http://pastebin.com/d642d7bec Oct 31 18:55:52 checked the log files empty still Oct 31 18:56:12 denix: probably BB_ENV_SHITELIST changed it Oct 31 18:56:55 shit-e-list - is it intentional? :) Oct 31 18:56:59 sgitlist= Oct 31 18:57:03 us shitlist Oct 31 18:57:04 funny Oct 31 18:58:14 macneib and the shasum logs are empty? Oct 31 18:58:18 hi kalemas Oct 31 18:58:33 hi woglinde as far as i can tell yes Oct 31 18:58:34 hi woglinde. Oct 31 18:58:47 macneib hm do you have ccache installed? Oct 31 18:58:53 hi polyonymous_ Oct 31 18:59:05 good question lemi check Oct 31 18:59:21 yes it's installed Oct 31 19:00:07 hm Oct 31 19:00:14 could clean the ccache Oct 31 19:00:17 you Oct 31 19:00:20 and try again Oct 31 19:00:27 hrw: you are right, adding TERMCMD to whitelist helps Oct 31 19:00:29 and are you using x86_64? Oct 31 19:00:38 no x86 32 Oct 31 19:00:43 opensuse Oct 31 19:01:32 hm Oct 31 19:01:53 i'm sensing i'm the only one with this problem Oct 31 19:01:58 hm Oct 31 19:02:07 if you are the one asking some days ago Oct 31 19:02:08 yes Oct 31 19:02:21 someone else was asking? Oct 31 19:02:27 macneib: you about building shasum? Oct 31 19:02:35 this all started a couple of hours ago Oct 31 19:02:57 i'm building angstrom for beagleboard and shasum is a requirement Oct 31 19:03:31 macneib okay then you are not the only one Oct 31 19:03:34 macneib: yeah, that's the first one to build Oct 31 19:03:42 some days ago an other one had this problem too Oct 31 19:03:45 "Jack-o'-Lanterns are supposed to be scary, right? So here is our new one: it's a mini pumpkin with a (tiny) scrolling LED stock ticker. Reprogrammable so you can update it every day with gloomy news from Wall Street." Oct 31 19:04:01 kergoth_ *g* Oct 31 19:04:04 :-O Oct 31 19:04:45 wogline: was there a solution found for the the problem Oct 31 19:04:47 ? Oct 31 19:05:31 macneib can not remeber exactly Oct 31 19:05:45 macneib try do remove ccache Oct 31 19:05:48 and try again Oct 31 19:05:54 maybee was a problem with ccache Oct 31 19:07:37 i had problems with building shasum, i just cleared stuff/ and start all again. now, there is problems with building quiltz(?)-native. Oct 31 19:07:41 hmm i'm looking at a bug report now http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4601 Oct 31 19:09:03 i've done this 3 times already today, same problem again and again. Oct 31 19:10:02 macneib hm sorry I did not encounter this Oct 31 19:11:06 i'm just looking at the log from a couple of weeks ago Oct 31 19:11:24 macneib, mind letting me know if you found a solution on the angstrom problem? :) Oct 31 19:11:53 http://pastebin.ca/1228134 Oct 31 19:12:09 here is the poster's pastebin Oct 31 19:12:15 will do cbus Oct 31 19:12:20 macneib, pussy! going for arm ;) Oct 31 19:12:23 everyone uses arm! Oct 31 19:12:28 (im trying for a mipsel) :) Oct 31 19:12:36 (i meant that in a nonoffensive way btw) Oct 31 19:12:49 what distros are you guys running on ? Oct 31 19:12:49 cheapest dev board in town Oct 31 19:13:15 my imx31 is just collecting dust now Oct 31 19:13:32 macneib, ahh ok, some other team is working on a i.mx35 at work :) Oct 31 19:13:37 im on a exm32 Oct 31 19:13:55 * mwester would love to help, but the lady at the beagleboard desk at the Embedded Systems Conference in Boston wouldn't give him a free one. ;) Oct 31 19:14:06 mwester lol Oct 31 19:14:16 didn't you mentioned oe? Oct 31 19:14:34 or maybee the already had give away to many beagleboards to oe devs Oct 31 19:15:09 They were selling them -- full list price (USD 150) but only to those who had registered for the class on the board. Oct 31 19:15:23 Crofton: I'm running opensuse 11.0 Oct 31 19:16:14 beagleboard @ 150 USD is the cheapest way into omap3 that I can think of Oct 31 19:16:23 macneib right Oct 31 19:16:28 It looks to be a really neat bit of hardware. Oct 31 19:16:29 but lack of ethernet Oct 31 19:16:36 ethernet via usb Oct 31 19:16:47 i run off a usb hub just fine wireline and wireless Oct 31 19:16:47 Crofton how many ports you have? Oct 31 19:17:05 Crofton -1 if you have no external power Oct 31 19:17:06 usb, I have a four port hub attached Oct 31 19:17:17 4 ports + USB OTG to the board Oct 31 19:17:26 usbethernet suckz Oct 31 19:17:29 time for more supernatural :) Oct 31 19:17:32 I power beagle via external PS Oct 31 19:17:37 guess ill setup a vm and try to compile for it later :) Oct 31 19:17:53 macneib, I'm sorry I can't duplicate your problem Oct 31 19:18:32 that's ok.. i'm pretty confused about it myself, i had oe running on an identical system two months ago Oct 31 19:18:51 i don't know what is different Oct 31 19:19:45 weird Oct 31 19:19:46 if i really get in a tizzy i'll wipe the entire system and start again... but that's a little drastic Oct 31 19:19:51 yeah Oct 31 19:20:05 hm the telephone makers have a new sport Oct 31 19:20:11 make wm6 look nicer Oct 31 19:21:33 I still laugh about the day I told that microsoft rep to stuff his wm Oct 31 19:22:15 macneib hehe htc started and then followod samsung now ericson/sony followed with the xperia Oct 31 19:23:28 haha lol Oct 31 19:23:42 but they didnt solve the wm problem with apps do not close Oct 31 19:24:34 lol and no rotation button Oct 31 19:24:36 suckerz Oct 31 19:25:41 hm seems the have design by some other company Oct 31 19:25:43 woglinde: htc did Oct 31 19:26:03 no sony memory stick, no sony proberitaer audio connector Oct 31 19:28:19 denix yes the xperia has wm 6.1 and they didnt solve it Oct 31 19:29:10 woglinde: my tilt/kaiser closes apps - that's htc feature Oct 31 19:29:39 denix yes I know Oct 31 19:29:47 with wm 6.1 its easy Oct 31 19:30:13 heard about wm 6.5? :) Oct 31 19:30:32 not yet Oct 31 19:30:42 or I forgot Oct 31 19:31:19 hi rwhitby Oct 31 19:32:21 thanks alot for everyone's help! Oct 31 19:34:28 macneib hm its working now? Oct 31 19:37:34 no not working but there were several people looking at the problem and I just wanted to say thanks before i forget Oct 31 19:40:31 macneib: have you tried running a devshell and see why it fails? Oct 31 19:41:09 no that's a good idea Oct 31 19:54:16 haven't got to the devshell experiment yet though once again i notive a difference between shasum-native-1.0 and shasum-native-1.0-r1 Oct 31 19:54:59 i'm having trouble finding the part of the scripting that designates both 1.0 and 1.0-r1 Oct 31 19:57:08 NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0: started Oct 31 19:57:17 NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0-r1: task do_build: started Oct 31 19:57:28 yes is that normal for you too? Oct 31 19:57:37 that's normal and does not mean it tries to use 2 different packages Oct 31 19:57:45 hm Oct 31 19:59:01 that's the way bitbake prints messages - started and completed messages don't have -rX release suffix Oct 31 19:59:29 Tartarus: i pumped it up to 165335 and it worked, thanks for your help mate Oct 31 20:00:02 ah i see Oct 31 20:00:03 macneib: try devshell - http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Openembedded_development_shell Oct 31 20:00:38 s/release/revision Oct 31 20:02:15 seems I should start using devshell Oct 31 20:02:16 too Oct 31 20:02:20 time to times Oct 31 20:06:38 denix: i've never used devshell, the link you provided mentions copy /temp/run.do_compile.x Oct 31 20:06:41 i removed .x Oct 31 20:07:06 now i should edit the end of the file with a bash command? Oct 31 20:07:18 bitbake shasum-native -c devshell Oct 31 20:07:22 ok Oct 31 20:10:42 ok i left what was at the bottom and added what your command Oct 31 20:11:14 just run that command... Oct 31 20:12:24 ah ic Oct 31 20:15:14 i'm not sure i did that right Oct 31 20:15:18 haha Oct 31 20:15:25 i'll pastebin the result Oct 31 20:16:23 can't net is off build machine, anyway to make a long story short, NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0-r1: task do_devshell failed Oct 31 20:18:37 i'm going to claim defeat on this for today, need food Oct 31 20:19:09 thanks denix i'll start poking at this more seriously later on this evening Oct 31 21:01:09 he zecke Oct 31 21:25:06 hail zecke Oct 31 21:25:11 crap, FOSDEM date still not settled Oct 31 21:25:28 yeah i saw that too Crofton|work Oct 31 21:25:39 SCALE is also in feb Oct 31 21:26:20 what is SCALE? Oct 31 21:27:06 http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/ Oct 31 21:29:26 ah Oct 31 21:30:27 well, it sounds like FOSDEM won't conflict Oct 31 21:31:11 hope not Oct 31 23:05:48 i have "make image" failing with "Cannot find package gst-plugin-mad." Oct 31 23:05:56 is there an easy way to add it? Oct 31 23:07:55 zecke: are you there? Oct 31 23:08:02 i'm sorry, i was busy the last days Oct 31 23:08:15 did you submit the patch already? or you want me to submit it? Oct 31 23:08:20 it works fine afaict Oct 31 23:17:35 hey Oct 31 23:17:43 tomboy64: please submit Oct 31 23:17:53 alright Oct 31 23:18:02 any idea what to do about that other error? Oct 31 23:18:06 tomboy64: my magic eight ball says you build fso-image from org.openembedded.dev? Oct 31 23:18:09 gst-plugin-mad? Oct 31 23:18:17 uhm, no Oct 31 23:18:19 shr-testing Oct 31 23:18:26 which kinda includes fso Oct 31 23:18:42 tomboy64: which branch is that? Oct 31 23:18:48 heh Oct 31 23:18:49 tomboy64: which repository? Oct 31 23:18:50 if i knew! Oct 31 23:20:11 tomboy64: ah right, I didn't merge one branch yet :} Oct 31 23:20:34 tomboy64: remove gst-plugin-mad from packages/images/fso-image.bb Oct 31 23:20:41 FSO_STABLE_MILESTONE = milestone3 Oct 31 23:20:43 FSO_STABLE_VERSION = HEAD Oct 31 23:20:46 ok Oct 31 23:20:57 tomboy64: or, go to packages packages/gstreamer/gst-meta*.bb and packages/gstreamer/gst-plugins-ugly_*.bb Oct 31 23:21:06 tomboy64: and remove the lines with "openmoko" Oct 31 23:21:24 what would that result in? Oct 31 23:21:33 the latter, that is? Oct 31 23:21:54 tomboy64: building mad/mp2/mp3 support again. the official build should not contain mp2/mp3 support for various reasons Oct 31 23:22:19 ugh? Oct 31 23:22:26 hm Oct 31 23:22:30 alright Oct 31 23:22:38 so the latter solution builds the support, right? Oct 31 23:23:02 zecke: so the latter solution builds the support, right? Oct 31 23:23:50 tomboy64: right, http://git.openembedded.net/?p=openembedded.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/holger/enterprise this will be merged sooner or later and should fix your problems too Oct 31 23:26:05 zecke: by removing lines with openmoko, you mean the whole paragraphs? Oct 31 23:26:13 hmm, stupid question, oversaw the \ Oct 31 23:26:55 tomboy64: should only be one line in each file or such Oct 31 23:28:18 zecke: i presume i will have to -c clean and -c build both the meta and the ugly package? Oct 31 23:32:17 03Steffen Sledz  07org.openembedded.dev * r4fa13ca809 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Added u-boot checksums (OE#4787). Oct 31 23:32:27 03Stanislav Brabec  07org.openembedded.dev * r6427ffdc51 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Added several missing checksums (atd, icewm, pxaregs, wwwoffle). Oct 31 23:35:43 tomboy64: right Oct 31 23:49:38 zecke: ERROR: Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide virtual/xserver (/home/tboy/dev/SHR/shr-testing/openembedded/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+git.bb /home/tboy/dev/SHR/shr-testing/openembedded/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_1.3.0.0.bb). Oct 31 23:50:40 which one should i select? the glamo-git-one? is it reasonably stable for everyday use? Oct 31 23:59:25 * denix is away: I'm not here Nov 01 01:41:32 hmm, did any oe devs hit the LPC by chance, out of curiosity? Nov 01 02:15:32 hmm, linkedin needs an open source project experience section. Nov 01 02:29:21 zecke: is this your sadly neglected linkedin profile? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 01 02:59:57 2008