**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 01 02:59:57 2008 Nov 01 03:15:05 03Mike Westerhof  07org.openembedded.dev * r8551ab45b3 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/slugos.inc: Nov 01 03:15:05 SlugOS: set preferred version for hal Nov 01 03:15:05 (newer hal requires a newer udev as well) Nov 01 03:48:34 Bah Nov 01 08:41:25 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r6f074889f6 10openembedded.git/packages/images/beagleboard-demo-image.bb: beagleboard demo image: include synergy and x11vnc Nov 01 10:56:43 Hello; did someone written a flash and java recipes? Nov 01 10:58:53 for what? Nov 01 10:59:36 x86 Nov 01 11:03:33 re Nov 01 11:05:52 zecke: re Nov 01 12:19:41 otavio: I do have recipes for Adobe flash plugin, flash player and Sun JRE, but I think they aren't suitable for OE inclusion. At least not without a major cleanup. Nov 01 12:23:40 kalev: mind to send them to me? Nov 01 12:33:44 otavio: http://www.smartlink.ee/~kalev/flash_and_jre_recipes.tgz Nov 01 12:39:13 kalev: thanks! Nov 01 12:39:24 kalev: have you used flash 9 or flash 10? Nov 01 12:39:34 flash 9 Nov 01 12:40:43 kalev: sun jre is not the latest but is really nice :-D Nov 01 12:40:58 kalev: thanks a lot; you've avoid me a lot of doubled work :-) Nov 01 12:41:18 kalev: want me to provide you updates for them? Nov 01 12:42:48 otavio: flash 10 would be nice, but JRE is probably just the matter of copying the file over, so not really needed :) Nov 01 12:44:49 kalev: I'll look into it Nov 01 12:45:02 kalev: will try to sort it out and provide you the required patches Nov 01 12:45:06 kalev: again, thanks a lot Nov 01 12:45:29 you're welcome Nov 01 12:53:44 otavio: actually, you might want to figure out how to use http://download.java.net/dlj/binaries/jdk-6u7-dlj-linux-i586.bin instead of the non-distributable file I am hosting Nov 01 13:20:15 kalev: I've tried to download it and it worked fine. Did I miss anything? Nov 01 13:42:35 hey Nov 01 13:47:35 kergoth: hey, it could be my linked in profile... Nov 01 13:48:00 * kergoth was just logging in and actually trying to make use of the thing for once Nov 01 13:48:00 kergoth: I did create it with my trolltech address which I don't have access to anymore and I still refuse to remember any kind of password :) Nov 01 13:48:08 hahah, oops Nov 01 13:48:36 * kergoth found out that linkedin can export contacts to your address book app, useful thing Nov 01 13:49:30 * zecke should make more use of that stuff too Nov 01 13:50:24 I'm terrible at networking.. i establish contacts, then forget to ever contact them again, ever :) Nov 01 13:50:48 kergoth: I share this feeling too... Nov 01 13:51:10 lol Nov 01 13:51:16 hehe Nov 01 13:51:19 last night i was suddenly striken with a desire to get active in open source again.. I'm crossing my fingers that it lasts this time Nov 01 13:51:37 but its not just the code this time, its wanting to re-establish contacts, get back on lists, pay attention to developments in various projcts.. Nov 01 13:51:40 this is one of the reasons it is so hard to find a job... (networking) Nov 01 13:51:42 and that can't be a bad thing Nov 01 13:51:45 yeah, true Nov 01 13:52:03 people that are good at it have a lot easier time, they have people to reach out to Nov 01 13:52:32 kergoth: (software) I'm crossing my fingers too Nov 01 13:53:27 thinking i need to get an actual board to run an oe distro on to stay motivated there Nov 01 13:53:32 heh Nov 01 13:53:46 guess i could get my dad to mail me the old z's, or pick up a beagle or so Nov 01 13:54:01 NSLU2's are still pretty cheap ;) Nov 01 13:54:03 kergoth: get a beagle board Nov 01 13:54:39 mwester: hmm.... i think i may still have mine, in mn.. i remember had trouble with a loose Ethernet jack though, wonder what itd take to fix if so.. maybe just re-solder to the board Nov 01 13:54:39 I saw the beagle board at the ESC show earlier this week -- it's on my list as the next toy to get. Pretty neat. :) Nov 01 13:54:41 * kergoth thinks Nov 01 13:54:55 beagle is so cheap, it blows my mind how easy it is to get into arm development nowadays Nov 01 13:55:09 especially as powerful as these things are Nov 01 13:55:11 zecke: Is openmoko done with gst-plugin-mad ? Nov 01 13:55:58 * otavio would like to get a beagle board however in Brazil this is difficult Nov 01 13:56:06 :( Nov 01 13:56:06 mwester: argh, I need to propose to merge holger/enterprise Nov 01 13:56:30 zecke: I've taken a look on it and it looks interesting Nov 01 13:57:25 :) Nov 01 13:57:27 zecke: Ok, I'll wait (I had to mess about with the gst plugins .bb file to get FSO to build). Nov 01 13:57:51 zecke: i finally sent the mail to bitbake-dev Nov 01 13:58:26 mwester: fso-image.bb is the only offender? or is there more? Nov 01 14:00:48 I rather suspect that it's limited to FSO and SHR at the moment -- they are derived from openmoko. Basically gst-plugin-mad is disabled for DISTRO==openmoko, but it is explicitly listed as a dependency for many other packages. Nov 01 14:02:24 er, where "many other packages" is really a few -- I didn't count but perhaps 4? 5? Nov 01 14:03:33 mwester: check holger/enterprise if I missed something Nov 01 14:04:06 otavio, it should not be to difficult, although they will be out of stock for a few weeks I hear Nov 01 14:06:10 Crofton|work: do you know someone that I could talk about it? Nov 01 14:06:25 try #beagle Nov 01 14:06:32 there are TI guys there Nov 01 14:20:39 adios, handhelds.org mailing list subscriptions. to be honest, i won't miss you Nov 01 14:22:13 anyone have any tips/suggestions/links on good email workflows, particularly for open source folk? Nov 01 14:22:20 i never seem to settle on one that makes sense Nov 01 14:22:23 (gmail,j specifically) Nov 01 14:22:26 s/j// Nov 01 14:30:41 kalev: could you make opensc recipe available? Nov 01 14:37:53 03Stanislav Brabec  07org.openembedded.dev * r00b342d97b 10openembedded.git/packages/gpe-soundbite/gpe-soundbite_1.0.6.bb: gpe-soundbite: Added missing space in LDFLAGS_append. Nov 01 14:38:03 03Stanislav Brabec  07org.openembedded.dev * ra7ad183cfe 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Added checksums for SDL_gfx, kxml2, libhildonfm, libhildonmime, osso-gnome-vfs2, gpsbabel, rxtx and xmlpull. Nov 01 14:43:38 hmm i can't continue my OE build a day after.. Nov 01 14:44:02 because it's trying to check things in a wrong day (date suffix) is it possible to avoid this problem somehow? Nov 01 14:51:29 * kergoth just realized he's not subscribed to the tslib mailing list, yet he's been the maintainer for a while.. Nov 01 14:51:40 * kergoth hangs head in shame, and tries to get caught up on what little activity there's been on the list Nov 01 15:08:43 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r6d3e12c542 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: add links Nov 01 15:10:25 hi, if i build -native packages some create strange directory trees in the /image/-dir (like tmp/work/i686-linux/dbus-native-1.2.1-r0/image/home/...) which are complete copies of `pwd` - whats going wrong there? Nov 01 15:36:56 you don't really want a do_install() for -native packages Nov 01 15:36:58 yank it w/ Nov 01 15:37:00 do_install() { Nov 01 15:37:01 : Nov 01 15:37:02 } Nov 01 15:37:14 s/packages/recipes/ Nov 01 15:37:36 you/me want nothing in that case... these packages are not mine Nov 01 15:38:31 and: yes, i /want/ to install something, the native version of the software under /i686.../ or not? Nov 01 15:39:47 I think do_stage is sufficient for a -native package, no? Nov 01 15:40:42 so those packages are just missing the empty do_inst? Nov 01 15:40:51 * zecke stabs libtool Nov 01 15:41:17 mwester: so why doesn't inherit native set it this way? Nov 01 15:41:33 That's a darn good question. Nov 01 15:42:09 I makes little sense to "install" on the local host, so packages that must have an "install" step should override the default, which should be to do nothing, IMO. Nov 01 15:42:13 kergoth: what was the dropin replacement of libtool? Nov 01 15:42:14 s/I/It/ Nov 01 15:42:21 zecke: dolt. Nov 01 15:42:24 iirc anyway Nov 01 15:42:27 so do_stage copies my binaries to a place where other packages can grab it? Nov 01 15:43:13 * kergoth really needs to find a sane workflow for monitoring project activities.. between -announce mailing lists, freshmeat posts, mailing list threads, rss feeds for blogs & the like.. Nov 01 15:43:36 kergoth: round robin? Nov 01 15:43:42 hehe Nov 01 15:43:50 Yes, it places it in the tmp/stage/... area, which should be searched first for executables and libraries, etc. by recipes that need them. Nov 01 15:43:55 first i need to get my inbox back to zero mails instead of thousands... Nov 01 15:43:59 then i'll see what to do next :P Nov 01 15:47:58 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r17a0396a91 10openembedded.git/packages/libserial/libserial_0.5.2.bb: libserial 0.5.2: add recipe. C++ library supporting serial port programming Nov 01 15:50:49 ~checking for esd-config... /usr/bin/esd-config Nov 01 15:50:51 lovely gstreamer Nov 01 16:05:30 all binconfig users should be tarred and feathered Nov 01 16:05:55 what is binconfig? Nov 01 16:06:19 Crofton|work: not using pkg-config Nov 01 16:06:32 Crofton|work: like building a shell script to tell you where foo is located :) Nov 01 16:06:37 heh Nov 01 16:06:51 Crofton|work: Normally people invoke /usr/bin/sdl-config to get the paths for cross compilation Nov 01 16:07:26 hmm Nov 01 16:07:35 but that would give hiost paths? Nov 01 16:09:00 right Nov 01 16:14:37 <[X]Spot> hi all Nov 01 16:14:39 <[X]Spot> do you know Nov 01 16:14:39 <[X]Spot> how can I see the major/minor number of a device??? Nov 01 16:16:04 <[X]Spot> I would like to create the device file myself (because it's missing) Nov 01 16:16:07 [X]Spot: ls -la? Nov 01 16:19:09 <[X]Spot> I would like to create the device file myself (because it's missing) Nov 01 16:19:16 <[X]Spot> There is no device file Nov 01 16:19:19 <[X]Spot> I would like to create it Nov 01 16:19:30 <[X]Spot> but I do no know the major/minor number Nov 01 16:20:40 [X]Spot: look in /sys Nov 01 16:50:19 <[X]Spot> ok Nov 01 16:50:24 <[X]Spot> thanks Nov 01 16:50:28 <[X]Spot> i'll check it Nov 01 18:15:16 03Philip Balister  07org.openembedded.dev * r7fd785dc8a 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Nov 01 18:15:16 gnuradio : Update gnuradio_svn build Nov 01 18:15:16 * Bump source revision Nov 01 18:15:16 * Do not build usrp1 and usrp2 code Nov 01 18:15:16 * Add patch for NEON Fir filter Nov 01 18:17:53 03Philip Balister  07org.openembedded.dev * rb833a7f26a 10openembedded.git/packages/gnuradio/gnuradio/gnuradio-neon.patch: gnuradio : Add patch that adds NEON support. Nov 01 19:23:39 hi mickey|zzZZzz, zecke, kergoth Nov 01 19:23:40 * pb_ returns from buying chickens Nov 01 19:27:01 chickens? Nov 01 19:27:28 * kergoth is stuffed.. meal portions at fast food places are so unnecessarily large.. i dont see how people eat the things Nov 01 19:28:53 kergoth, next time go to macdonalds and ask for a little mac :-) Nov 01 19:29:13 hehe Nov 01 19:29:36 i never go to fast food places anymore, the food there is pretty gross now that I'm used to pretty healthy food.. grease covered stuff, meh Nov 01 19:29:47 that'll teach them :-) (or perhaps call it a mini-mac) Nov 01 19:29:58 mini-mac is a good name Nov 01 19:30:05 yup Nov 01 19:44:19 cap Nov 01 19:44:22 crap Nov 01 19:44:33 I need to fix my commit email address Nov 01 19:44:48 hmmmm Nov 01 19:53:46 I've been fiddling with OE again to eventually build Angstrom images, but the file parsing is really slow. When I had it set up before, it was slow once, then psyco got to it and it went very quickly. I have psyco installed (Debian Sid), but it's slow every time. Is there some place I need to enable psyco? Nov 01 19:55:47 Capn_Fish, i also just started again and for me psyco works like a charm. I am on ubuntu 7.10 Nov 01 19:56:42 Argh Nov 01 19:57:14 You just installed python-psyco? Nov 01 19:57:45 * NAiL mumbles something about psyco only working on x86, not x64 Nov 01 19:57:51 Oh, I've got my stuff installed in my home directory, FWIW Nov 01 19:58:34 I had to change a bunch of lines in various config files, so I suppose I may have missed one (this is on x86, not x86-64) Nov 01 20:03:23 Anybody? Nov 01 20:03:32 Do you need root permissions? Nov 01 20:03:53 NO Nov 01 20:04:58 OK, another angle...Is it possible that my building box (1GHz) is simply too slow for there to be a benefit? Nov 01 20:10:11 [X]Spot: er, with ls? Nov 01 20:16:28 hi Nov 01 20:33:30 Capn_Fish: psyco doesn't make all that much of a difference anyway. Nov 01 20:33:55 if you were seeing a visible increase in parse speed on the second run, that is probably the cache rather than psyco Nov 01 20:34:34 kergoth: yah, my mother-in-law was buying some, and my wife would like us to have some too Nov 01 20:34:41 ah Nov 01 20:35:10 jo pb Nov 01 20:35:13 and kergoth Nov 01 20:35:43 hey Nov 01 20:36:04 ugh, testing gmail imap... maybe itll finish downloading my messages sometime today.. maybe Nov 01 20:36:37 if anyone has any tslib patches laying around, toss them my way, looking to do a 1.1 fix release. already grabbed fix_version from OpenEmbedded Nov 01 20:44:54 kergoth cool Nov 01 20:45:11 hi woglinde Nov 01 20:45:19 hm Nov 01 20:45:34 something is wrong with the c++ installation Nov 01 20:45:46 I get a suspicous dir in staging Nov 01 20:46:02 arm-oabi-linux Nov 01 20:46:25 which has 2 empty dirs Nov 01 20:46:31 usr/include/c++ Nov 01 20:46:37 and usr/share Nov 01 21:10:16 kergoth: have a look at the Garmin codedrop Nov 01 21:10:20 they have some patches IIRC Nov 01 21:10:34 (from the released Nuvi device linux code) Nov 01 21:12:48 mickeyl is speaking in the sleep Nov 01 21:12:50 *g* Nov 01 21:13:13 good morning Nov 01 21:13:20 he florian Nov 01 21:13:28 woglinde: hehe Nov 01 21:18:47 hm seems crofton did a bad commit Nov 01 21:21:50 hms Nov 01 21:47:10 03Mike Westerhof  07org.openembedded.dev * r2ca7c85097 10openembedded.git/packages/gnuradio/gnuradio.inc: gnuradio.inc: fix bad line wraps causing bitbake parse errors. Nov 01 21:48:00 args Nov 01 21:48:49 args? Nov 01 21:50:27 yepp Nov 01 21:50:33 fixed and checkit too Nov 01 21:50:39 in my workinbranch Nov 01 21:51:21 hm let me see if I revert my stuff Nov 01 21:56:13 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * ra2332c4706 10openembedded.git/packages/gnuradio/gnuradio.inc: gnuradio: fix depends and rdepends errors sneaked in with the last commit Nov 01 21:56:14 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * ra162fd85ae 10openembedded.git/packages/findutils/ (findutils-native_4.4.bb findutils_4.4.bb): findutils: update to latest version 4.4, but not enabled yet Nov 01 21:56:14 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r7806a7f622 10openembedded.git/packages/findutils/findutils_4.2.29.bb: findutils: remove install_apend it looks good inside the image dir now Nov 01 21:56:15 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r59fbb0c608 10openembedded.git/packages/findutils/ (findutils-4.2.29/mkinstalldirs.patch findutils_4.2.29.bb): findutils: fix mkinstalldirs for the po directroy requested by koen Nov 01 21:56:17 he cua Nov 01 21:56:19 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * rd099c34191 10openembedded.git/packages/findutils/findutils.inc: findutils: switch EXTRA_OECONF setting for uclibc to += Nov 01 21:56:22 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r022ea88c96 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Nov 01 21:56:22 uos cia Nov 01 21:56:25 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * ra3ea23c195 10openembedded.git/packages/gnuradio/gnuradio.inc: Nov 01 21:56:31 gnuradio: revert my fixes because mwester pushed it faster Nov 01 21:56:32 This reverts commit a2332c470608fd94df2118eba9ee59c2143bfb60. Nov 01 21:56:38 hehe Nov 01 21:59:53 :) Isn't git fun? Nov 01 22:00:19 * mwester loves a version control tool that's actually reasonably friendly to developers... Nov 01 22:00:19 jepp Nov 01 22:00:26 sometimes Nov 01 22:00:33 I have someproblems Nov 01 22:00:53 when it overwrite stuff when swtiching branches Nov 01 22:01:03 but I can handle it Nov 01 22:01:04 anyone with problems while building python-etk-0.3.0+svnr37309 ? Nov 01 22:01:55 it cannot find etk/etk.c_etk.c file Nov 01 22:02:03 it looks like typo :) Nov 01 22:20:58 not a typo in python-etk.. reported here http://kevb.net/lurker/message/20081020.154001.016dc473.el.html Nov 01 22:27:30 hello. i have next error during building quilt-native-0.46-r2: Nov 01 22:27:30 configure:1767: error: C compiler cannot create executables Nov 01 22:30:32 mickey|zzZZzz: the garmin guys have a tslib plugin that monitors a socket to let the client disable touchscreen input, at the tslib layer... seems pretty special purpose to me, or if its a use case, it probably belongs in the core, not the plugin. the rest is a patched path modification, and the patch to bump the ver to 1.0, and an ugly hack in linear. not suitable for upstream. thanks for pointing it out, good to be aware of what people are d Nov 01 22:38:26 config.log is here http://en.pastebin.ca/1242672 Nov 01 22:38:59 Hello, python-etk alone cannot be set to AUTOREV in moko-autorev, because then it depends on Eina_List which isnt in python-evas with REV from sanerevs (EFL_SRCREV).. Nov 01 22:39:52 Kalemas3 then install a gcc Nov 01 22:47:41 before these patches, it had been 479 days since my last tslib commit Nov 01 22:47:43 * kergoth shakes head Nov 01 22:49:24 kergoth good you are back Nov 01 22:49:33 that's the hope, indeed Nov 01 22:49:58 now i just need one of my zaurii from MN so i can test ts stuff, and a beagle board so i can play with OpenEmbedded more, and hunt for other projects to dive into Nov 01 22:52:58 woglinde: [root@localhost build]# urpmi gcc Nov 01 22:52:58 gcc-4.3.2-3mnb2.i586 -- installed Nov 01 22:52:58 maybe i need i686? Nov 01 22:54:47 Kalemas3 you should install one that is working Nov 01 23:03:39 woglinde: i think my gcc works, i just build a program, that prints hello message Nov 01 23:06:12 tryed with ccache? Nov 01 23:06:24 how? Nov 01 23:06:43 deinstall it Nov 01 23:08:35 ccache gcc ~/1.c -o ~/1 - works... Nov 01 23:09:17 what i need to remove? Nov 01 23:10:47 ccache Nov 01 23:10:52 rpm -e ccach Nov 01 23:10:53 e Nov 01 23:17:21 wow, quilt builds, thank you, woglinde Nov 01 23:18:13 hehe Nov 01 23:18:24 dont know whats wron with ccache and your compiler Nov 01 23:19:38 hm.. too many peoples already complains about ccache problems Nov 01 23:20:16 hm my machine is slow enough Nov 01 23:20:22 so I am glad about ccache Nov 01 23:21:18 looks like ccache installation not always correctly recognise all gcc variations presence Nov 01 23:21:45 I have same kind of problems some time ago under freebsd with ccache enabled.. Nov 01 23:22:03 ccache can create link to compiler that not exist Nov 01 23:22:31 g++ e.g. Nov 01 23:29:13 "create link"? Nov 01 23:29:17 ccache doesn't create links Nov 01 23:29:19 ccache works fine with all sorts of crazy gcc installs. just call it ccache /path/to/gcc the way OpenEmbedded does rather than symlink to ccache Nov 01 23:29:30 * kergoth shrugs Nov 01 23:30:06 kergoth: ah.. when it used this way Nov 01 23:30:18 anyone know what the scoop was on https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/tslib-general/2008-September/000080.html ? it sounds like they didn't calibrate correctly or something Nov 01 23:30:39 then I'm unsure about problems with 'compiler cant create executables' Nov 01 23:38:44 would need more details than that to diagnose Nov 01 23:38:49 dunno Nov 01 23:41:56 Hey Nov 01 23:42:51 I tried to get the newest oe changes into my local branch. I got the following: fatal: Entry 'conf/checksums.ini' would be overwritten by merge. Cannot merge. Merge with strategy recursive failed. Nov 01 23:43:06 Doesn't he treat it as a source file? Nov 02 02:09:20 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r64fa2c456c 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 2 dirs): qi: new recipe. Qi is the next-generation bootloader for Openmoko devices. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Nov 02 02:59:57 2008