**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 10 02:59:57 2008 Nov 10 03:20:34 03Mike Westerhof  07org.openembedded.dev * r99b78c8b96 10openembedded.git/packages/glib-2.0/glib-2.0-native_2.16.1.bb: glib-2.0-native: update older recipe (2.16.1) to also install libgio. Nov 10 06:51:20 03Mike Westerhof  07org.openembedded.dev * r3b84b9a271 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/ (ixp4xxbe.conf ixp4xxle.conf): conf/machine/ixp4xx: remove duplicate archs now specificed in tune-xscale Nov 10 07:49:10 G' morning Nov 10 09:13:06 morning Nov 10 09:58:19 hi blindman Nov 10 10:13:58 morning Nov 10 10:14:11 ~curse intel graphics for very crappy xrandr support Nov 10 10:14:12 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, intel graphics for very crappy xrandr support ! Nov 10 10:14:16 ~curse xrandr too Nov 10 10:14:17 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, xrandr too ! Nov 10 10:14:41 presumably patches for xrandr are welcome ;-} Nov 10 10:14:47 I wish that there will be a day when x11 will read EDID of all monitors and use it... Nov 10 10:15:06 xga on 20" wide lcd is insane Nov 10 10:15:39 but fixing hardcoded 1024x1024 limit in intel driver is too hard Nov 10 10:18:36 ribbits: hi bob Nov 10 10:19:09 hi hrw Nov 10 10:19:26 ribbits: can you kick some intel x.org driver guys? Nov 10 10:19:52 ;) Nov 10 10:20:15 :-) Nov 10 10:21:17 I do not know why each time when I use laptop with intel graphics it just does not like to work with external monitors like it should... intel's t61 self-restarted x11 on monitor connect=ion.. Nov 10 10:22:54 :-/ I think I must be the luckiest person with intel, I've had very few problems myself. Nov 10 10:23:26 ;D Nov 10 10:24:23 though working on Clutter, I guess I do find bugs that kill the X server every once in a while. Nov 10 10:25:31 ok, disabled crap called intelfb and rebuilding kernel.. Nov 10 10:31:22 ribbits: butr you do not use 855 bur rather 945/965 Nov 10 10:35:27 hrw, right I use 965, which probably gets the most attention from devs, so it makes sense that it's more stable Nov 10 10:36:12 and 855 get probably 'we do not officially agree that we know that this still exists' answer Nov 10 10:56:58 hello Nov 10 11:00:05 hi Blackhex Nov 10 11:00:24 fscking intel driver Nov 10 11:38:50 huhu Nov 10 11:40:20 moin Nov 10 11:40:24 tuwien? Nov 10 11:40:27 tach auch :) Nov 10 11:40:39 ja :) everlasting student ;) Nov 10 11:42:55 hi zecke Jin^eLD greentux otavio stefan_schmidt Nov 10 11:42:59 hi steliosk Nov 10 11:43:05 ~curse my laptop keyboard's tab Nov 10 11:43:07 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, my laptop keyboard's tab ! Nov 10 11:43:12 hrw :) Nov 10 11:43:14 hrw : hi ! Nov 10 11:43:56 my laptop is losing 7/{ key functionality, which is annoying for coding :> Nov 10 11:44:34 Jin^eLD, use python ^^ Nov 10 11:44:50 hehe ) Nov 10 11:45:01 solution would be finding where did I put usb->ps/2 adapter and plug exsternal keyboard Nov 10 11:45:15 Xilent: too late for that, my project is in C++ :P Nov 10 11:48:03 hmm, setting /etc/localtime to a valid TZ string should be enough to change the timzeone, right? Nov 10 11:48:10 trying to setup ntp on my board Nov 10 11:49:23 Normally /etc/localtime is a symlink to a timezone data file. Nov 10 11:49:34 Or the data file itself. Nov 10 11:49:42 aha, let me check that, thanks Nov 10 11:49:59 hail zecke Nov 10 11:50:12 depends on glibc vs uclibc for TZ settings Nov 10 11:50:19 moin master Nov 10 11:50:28 I am on uclibc, so afaik TZ should do it Nov 10 11:50:37 I dug through OE scripts and it uses /etc/localtime to set TZ Nov 10 11:50:48 so I put a string into /etc/localtime but that did not change anything Nov 10 11:58:38 hmm, so, any hints? Nov 10 11:58:56 I now even tried putting a zoneinfo file instead of the localtime one - did not change anything Nov 10 11:59:00 clock still at UTC Nov 10 12:04:57 hi florian Nov 10 12:16:14 hmm Nov 10 12:16:33 anyone? a clean way on how the time zone is supposed to be set on angstrom/uclibc? Nov 10 12:16:48 I am trying to hack in TZ into rcS but it seems its still not being picked up Nov 10 12:16:57 and /etc/localtime did not do anything Nov 10 12:22:28 no idea with uclibc Nov 10 12:23:18 mhm Nov 10 12:23:36 maybe I should ask in #angstrom... well, I'll try a couple more things first Nov 10 12:28:38 good morning Nov 10 12:28:43 hi florian Nov 10 12:29:48 see you Nov 10 12:29:56 l8r hrw Nov 10 12:33:07 Jin^eLD: it looks like uclibc doesn't use /etc/localtime http://bugs.busybox.net/view.php?id=74 Nov 10 12:33:54 uClibc uses /etc/TZ Nov 10 12:34:18 http://www.uclibc.org/FAQ.html #20 Nov 10 12:36:42 ant_work: that is what I also found out Nov 10 12:37:01 but if I set /etc/TZ - it seems that OE startup scripts mess that up or ignore it Nov 10 12:37:09 if I later on in the shell export TZ=xxx Nov 10 12:37:13 and then check with "date" Nov 10 12:37:16 it works immediately Nov 10 12:38:50 I see Nov 10 12:39:43 I personally complain about the lack of /etc/localtime for glibc builds. Now there is /etc/timezone, I know, but /etc/localtime would not hurt Nov 10 12:42:16 well, I'd be happy to have anything that works :) Nov 10 12:42:39 or at least to have known steps to make it work Nov 10 12:47:55 from gumstix docs: It looks like uClibc also makes use of the /etc/TZ file if no environment variable is set. So you can set the default timezone by changing /etc/TZ and users can override that using the TZ environment variable. Nov 10 12:50:02 that is what I tried, but it has no effect, I checked my ucibc config and its set correctly there Nov 10 12:50:08 it seems that the init scripts mess things up Nov 10 13:02:44 doh hehe, getting harder and harder to stay ahead :> Nov 10 13:02:46 oops wrong window Nov 10 13:10:44 ant_work: aeh, we have /etc/localtime at Openmoko, I'm will check if I merged this correctly Nov 10 13:12:55 zecke: I see... last time I discussed about /etc/localtime I have been told that's job for tzdata and not a basefile Nov 10 13:13:22 the fact is: tzdata did not create /etc/localtime Nov 10 13:13:43 zecke: btw thats on angstrom stable... so may be quite out of date I guess? Nov 10 13:14:15 zecke: and after then, the new /etc/timezone was implemented Nov 10 14:03:22 mickeyl: good morning Nov 10 14:04:01 ~curse XCALIBRATE Nov 10 14:04:02 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, XCALIBRATE ! Nov 10 14:04:52 good morning pb! Nov 10 14:10:06 XorA|afk: what are you saying about my favourite extension?! Nov 10 14:40:14 hi, all! Nov 10 14:40:27 hi Nov 10 14:40:43 mickeyl, hi, are you the right person for me to send ssh pubkey to? Nov 10 14:41:17 you are dmitry? Nov 10 14:41:34 mickeyl, no :) Nov 10 14:41:38 hmm Nov 10 14:42:04 mickeyl, I have mtn access, so I'd like to have git one :) Nov 10 14:42:08 ah Nov 10 14:42:11 then yes. Nov 10 14:43:08 03Rod Whitby  07org.openembedded.dev * rdf7e29eb9f 10openembedded.git/packages/glibc/ (glibc-initial_2.2.5.bb glibc_2.2.5.bb): glibc_2.2.5: Make it buildable again for Unslung distro Nov 10 14:43:25 03Rod Whitby  07org.openembedded.dev * r50551ad424 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/unslung.conf: unslung.conf: Define PREFERRED_PROVIDER for virtual/libc-initial:glibc-initial Nov 10 14:47:19 Hi, Ive installed oe and skyeye emulator. I am to the point where I am doing the configuration file, specifically the machine line. Is there any info available about which machines can be emulated by skyeye, and how to do it? Nov 10 14:48:06 configuratrion file for oe, that is. Nov 10 14:59:44 03Graeme Gregory  07shared/xorg-7.4-update * rdd3724c343 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into shared/xorg-7.4-update Nov 10 14:59:45 03Philip Balister  07shared/xorg-7.4-update * rf214c817b7 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Nov 10 14:59:45 03Philip Balister  07shared/xorg-7.4-update * re67cecc8dd 10openembedded.git/packages/pulseaudio/pulseaudio-meta_0.9.10.bb: pulseaudio-meta_0.9.10.bb : Correct typo. Nov 10 14:59:50 03Mike Westerhof  07shared/xorg-7.4-update * r3b84b9a271 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/ (ixp4xxbe.conf ixp4xxle.conf): conf/machine/ixp4xx: remove duplicate archs now specificed in tune-xscale Nov 10 14:59:51 03Mike Westerhof  07shared/xorg-7.4-update * r99b78c8b96 10openembedded.git/packages/glib-2.0/glib-2.0-native_2.16.1.bb: glib-2.0-native: update older recipe (2.16.1) to also install libgio. Nov 10 14:59:54 03Graeme Gregory  07shared/xorg-7.4-update * raf471d9f42 10openembedded.git/packages/xorg-driver/xf86-input-tslib_0.0.5.bb: xf86-input-tslib_0.0.5.bb : needs to DEPEND on tslib Nov 10 15:02:55 pb_: its xtscal is making my xserver segfault, shall need to find out why Nov 10 15:02:55 mickeyl, I have sent my key, thanks beforehand. Nov 10 15:08:02 hi Nov 10 15:10:47 I have some errors trying to build an x11-image... I really don't understand why Nov 10 15:11:13 which one? Nov 10 15:11:26 Hi, Ive installed oe and skyeye emulator. I am to the point where I am doing the oe configuration file, specifically the machine line. Is there any info available about which machines can be emulated by skyeye, and how to do it? Nov 10 15:11:29 I definided PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "mx31ads-kernel" in my machine file ( wdg002.conf ) but I have the following errors : Nov 10 15:11:42 NOTE: Resolving any missing task queue dependencies Nov 10 15:11:42 NOTE: multiple providers are available for virtual/kernel (poodle-kernel-2.4-embedix, c7x0-kernels-2.4-embedix, collie-kernels-2.4-embedix, linux, linux-bast, corgi-kernel-2.4-embedix, shepherd-kernel-2.4-embedix, linux-omap-2.6, poodle255-kernel-2.4-embedix, gumstix-kernel, husky-kernel-2.4-embedix, linux-rt); Nov 10 15:11:42 NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel Nov 10 15:12:08 pb__: actually the segfault is unconnected to xtscal as far as I can see. hmm Nov 10 15:12:22 then, it's not building the mx31ads kernel but NOTE: Running task 871 of 3870 (ID: 514, /home/drakou/OE/openembedded/packages/linux/linux_2.6.21.bb, do_unpack) Nov 10 15:12:22 NOTE: package linux-2.6.21: started Nov 10 15:12:26 Why ? Nov 10 15:12:56 drakou: I remember that I had similar issu but I can't remember how I fixed it :-) Nov 10 15:14:17 drakou: fix the COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = "mx21ads" in packages/linux/mx21ads-kernel_2.6.19rc6.bb Nov 10 15:14:32 what is the difference between ncurses and ncursesw? Nov 10 15:14:48 drakou: of course that is a 3 in both cases :-D Nov 10 15:15:02 I try that ... Nov 10 15:18:30 Hi, Ive installed oe and skyeye emulator. I am to the point where I am doing the oe configuration file, specifically the machine line. Is there any info available about which machines can be emulated by skyeye, and how to do it? Nov 10 15:22:09 It's working, thank you very much XorA :) Nov 10 15:24:38 drakou: no probs Nov 10 15:24:51 drakou: feel free to submit patches to update that kernel BTW, its ancient Nov 10 15:25:59 XorA: ah. Nov 10 15:26:17 seems fairly unlikely that XCALIBRATE would be causing segfaults, it's pretty simple and hasn't changed in years. Nov 10 15:28:26 the problem is not with the kernel but with my new machine type, I should create a new kernel file for this particular board Nov 10 15:28:45 For the moment I don't need the kernel stuff ... I just need to make a userFS and test it on the board Nov 10 15:43:33 03Stefan Schmidt  07org.openembedded.dev * r872fae1c4a 10openembedded.git/packages/e17/ (illume/gsm-segfault.patch illume_svn.bb): illume: Add patch to fix segfault on gsm module on FSO. Nov 10 16:09:24 morning kergoth Nov 10 16:14:26 i get the error libncursesw.a(lib_mouse.o): In function `_nc_mouse_init': undefined reference to `dlsym' when i try to cross compile libncursesw? Nov 10 16:15:19 looks like it is using /usr/bin/ld instead of arm-linux-ld Nov 10 16:16:30 I have this error : how can I desactivate checksums ? Nov 10 16:16:33 ERROR: mx31ads-kernel-2.6.18+2.6.19-rc6: http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/patch-2.6.19-rc6.bz2 has no entry in conf/checksums.ini, not checking URI Nov 10 16:17:10 drakou: add the checksum, provide a patch in bugtracker Nov 10 16:19:29 drakou: set OE_ALLOW_INSECURE_DOWNLOADS=1 in local.conf Nov 10 16:19:40 ok thanks Nov 10 16:19:57 Last month I didn't get that problem, is it a new feature ? Nov 10 16:20:02 new-ish, yeah Nov 10 16:20:20 we shuold change that to ALLOW_PEOPLE_TO_CHANGE_SOURCES_WITHOUT_TELLING_ANYONE Nov 10 16:20:37 :) Nov 10 16:20:43 heh Nov 10 16:21:00 any clues why /usr/bin/ld is being used instead of arm-linux-ld? i get the error: /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible ../lib/libformw.a when searching for -lformw Nov 10 16:21:06 I think it'd be useful to distinguish the case where there's no entry in checksums.ini from the case where there is an entry but it's wrong. Nov 10 16:21:18 pb__: true Nov 10 16:21:21 shri: what package are you trying to build? Nov 10 16:21:28 03Stefan Schmidt  07org.openembedded.dev * r79db433025 10openembedded.git/packages/e17/ (illume/gsm-segfault.patch illume_svn.bb): illume: Actually use a patch that applies. Sorry. Nov 10 16:21:33 ncurses Nov 10 16:21:41 the headache is the message would get lost in the see of output Nov 10 16:21:42 sounds like it's disregarding ${LD} for some reason Nov 10 16:21:54 Crofton|1rssi: well, I was thinking more in terms of disabling the checking. Nov 10 16:22:16 we could have the variable you mentioned for the latter case, and ALLOW_PEOPLE_TO_DOWNLOAD_WITHOUT_HAVING_TO_EDIT_PESKY_CHECKSUMS_INI_EVERY_TIME for the other. Nov 10 16:22:34 or, maybe a slightly shorter variable name would be better, I guess we can fine-tune that later Nov 10 16:23:38 shri: you probably need to check the makefile to find out what's up Nov 10 16:23:48 The work pesky should be in more variable names - I know that much Nov 10 16:23:52 s/work/word/ Nov 10 16:24:03 am checking Nov 10 16:25:04 looks like my OE env is screwed up Nov 10 16:27:56 brb ; need a reboot Nov 10 16:30:47 pb__: should work out how many battery powered access points it would take to bridge a network :-) Nov 10 16:31:43 heh, right Nov 10 16:31:57 you could just lay a trail of neo1973s. Nov 10 16:32:07 pb__: I was just about to say that :-D Nov 10 16:33:04 a bluetooth scatternet of all those useless gta01 :-) Nov 10 16:40:53 XorA: they are called "MANETS" Nov 10 16:42:45 Crofton|1rssi: Im not shouting IP packets across the car park Nov 10 16:45:49 even if you do it in binary? Nov 10 16:47:05 Id rather use pigeons Nov 10 16:47:50 some fireworks + dead pigeon, thats an optimised by avian carrier protocol Nov 10 18:01:15 Hello; Is someone having trouble to build qemu-native? Nov 10 18:01:29 | /home/otavio/hacking/ossystems/oe/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/qemu-native-0.9.1+svnr4242-r12/trunk/linux-user/syscall.c:79:26: warning: linux/dirent.h: No such file or directory Nov 10 18:01:33 | /home/otavio/hacking/ossystems/oe/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/qemu-native-0.9.1+svnr4242-r12/trunk/linux-user/syscall.c:208: warning: "struct dirent" declared inside parameter list Nov 10 18:01:46 Mine fails due above missing file; any guesses? Nov 10 18:27:26 Hello. I have error during configuring gcc-cross_4.2.4 : configure: error: GMP 4.1 and MPFR 2.2.1 or newer versions required by fortran. Where i can find code bitbake executes during configuration? Nov 10 19:01:26 Hi Crofton ! Nov 10 19:01:45 hmm, anyone with a touchscreen device mind testing tslib svn at some point for me, just to make sure nothing exploded horribly? Nov 10 19:01:46 heh Nov 10 19:01:50 re Nov 10 19:01:58 guess i could use qemu and a fake device with uinput or whatever Nov 10 19:02:22 kergoth: s/touchscreen device/touchscreen device with touchscreen supported by tslib/ Nov 10 19:02:47 heh, true, but nowadays most use the input layer's event interface Nov 10 19:02:57 kergoth: I have device with touchscreen which lack input driver so ts is used only in x11 via mutouch driver Nov 10 19:03:04 ah Nov 10 19:04:01 calibration is nearly impossible as the only tool for it use ncurses and assume xga framebuffer Nov 10 19:08:06 damn cvsps is slow Nov 10 19:08:37 hrw: oh well, my dad's going to ship me all my zauruses within the next couple months, can test then :) Nov 10 19:08:57 kergoth: which one you collected? Nov 10 19:09:07 * kergoth tries to remember Nov 10 19:09:36 i know i had a c700, and a 6000, and a c750 i think it was.. and the old sl5000d and 5500.. but i cant recall which units had busted screens, i know at least two did :P Nov 10 19:09:42 hmm Nov 10 19:14:50 nice set Nov 10 19:16:18 I had sl5500 (now Thomas Kunze has it for 2.6 work), c760 (still have), sl5600 (OE property, now at mickeyl), sl6000 (OE property, now at Samuel Ortiz, will be at Dmitry B.), sl-c3000 (OE property, now at Rolf Leggewie) Nov 10 19:16:39 nice Nov 10 19:16:48 :) Nov 10 19:17:04 * Jay7 had just one akita :) Nov 10 19:17:25 * kergoth cant recall which of his were donations and which weren't, anymore Nov 10 19:17:28 *have Nov 10 19:19:43 my c760 was donated Nov 10 19:20:27 people were congratulated me this donation before I found where it was written about Nov 10 19:20:34 hehe Nov 10 19:21:24 ~curse oesf Nov 10 19:21:25 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, oesf ! Nov 10 19:22:45 ~emulate zautrix Nov 10 19:22:46 this is exactly what the GPL is about. grab the stuff and run away Nov 10 19:40:39 ugh, berlios is flaky Nov 10 19:40:46 server wise, i mean Nov 10 19:40:50 this is news? Nov 10 19:40:55 heh, not really, no Nov 10 19:41:57 hey about fosdem ... have sense to ask to some company (openmoko and/or neuros or others) to share "our" devroom so we can make "OE for openmoko" "OE for beagleboard" "OE for OSD2" and so on classes ... have sense ? can be simple to obtain a devroom in such way ? Nov 10 19:44:42 gremlin[it]: who will man it? Nov 10 19:45:50 if have sense i can start ... Nov 10 19:46:30 start to keep in touch with companies and take a look at fosdem requirements for a dev room Nov 10 19:46:32 this year I plan to rather spend whole fosdem talking with people Nov 10 19:47:12 hi Nov 10 19:48:01 hrw i think is correct, is the most important part ... but i think that if we don't have a our place could be less easy Nov 10 19:48:11 hi bluelightning Nov 10 19:48:14 re Nov 10 19:48:18 hi flo Nov 10 19:48:37 hi woglinde, all Nov 10 19:53:16 hi bluelightning Nov 10 19:59:56 gremlin[it]: after some thinking I have a conclusion Nov 10 20:00:33 tell me Nov 10 20:00:36 >>hrw Nov 10 20:01:03 gremlin[it]: having OE stand/devroom would be nice as this give visibility for project. maning it could be hard as many people prefer to walk around and talk to misc people (due to only two days and too many people). Nov 10 20:01:53 yes i think we (OE) have 2 kind of member ... Nov 10 20:02:14 gremlin[it]: but having only random developers maning stand/devroom would make our visibility hard because there can be things which needs more experienced people to provide full answers Nov 10 20:02:48 so having more experienced devs from time to time on stand/devroom would be handy as they could give some extra info for such visitors Nov 10 20:02:52 - senior : who already is known guy and prefer look around (but i think that have stand could help too) Nov 10 20:02:56 what do you think? Nov 10 20:03:27 - junior : guy who are starting and they need a base point Nov 10 20:04:22 hrw : yes i completely agree with you Nov 10 20:04:40 the nice thing aout having a room is people could work on problems Nov 10 20:05:26 Crofton|1rssi: like broken i2c on gumstix? Nov 10 20:05:38 yes Nov 10 20:06:08 we could build a schedule based on ideas people have Nov 10 20:06:14 boot time reduction Nov 10 20:06:23 my idea to involve companies could help in two way, some junior guys could come to "learn" about develop for a device (openmoko, beagle board, and so on) ... give us also the interest of other senior developers / company cause OE is used by known devices Nov 10 20:06:23 things like that Nov 10 20:09:35 ok so basically we agree that we can start talk about ... i asked just to not start a null thread by mail ... Nov 10 20:20:38 hi all Nov 10 20:25:01 otavio: wasn't there some discussion of this on the mailing list recently? Nov 10 20:25:01 or maybe it was in the irc channel sometime in the last few days. might be worth checking the logs. Nov 10 20:25:04 I'm pretty sure I remember zecke discussing it with someone, anyway. Nov 10 20:29:06 ~logs Nov 10 20:29:07 All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Nov 10 20:30:26 pb_: I dunno; I've been getting failures on that since my last rebase few days ago. However I failed to find out where it started to happen Nov 10 20:30:52 "Lines starting with spaces are not logged." Nov 10 20:31:43 ibot can't feel a thing :) Nov 10 20:38:03 oh; I think I got it Nov 10 20:38:50 it looks like 2.6.26 has change the place it is installed; so native fails Nov 10 20:43:30 I think I've solved it Nov 10 20:43:32 ;-) Nov 10 20:45:39 :-) Nov 10 20:47:27 bye Nov 10 20:50:35 Kalemas: in run.do_configure.xxx Nov 10 20:51:46 done :-) and it works! :-) Nov 10 20:52:50 hm has someone against that I change the order of the PACKAGES in bitbake.conf? Nov 10 20:53:00 A single line patch :-) Nov 10 20:53:07 I would like the -dev before the PN package Nov 10 20:53:07 woglinde: why you'd like to do that? Nov 10 20:53:13 because of binconfig Nov 10 20:53:36 otherwise all -config can not be in the -dev package Nov 10 20:53:42 woglinde: I believe this kind of change should be discussed in mailing list and tested in a branch before merging it Nov 10 20:53:53 woglinde: -config? Nov 10 20:53:54 because /usr/bin/* is eval befor /usr/bin/*-config Nov 10 20:54:02 otavio yes Nov 10 20:54:08 but asking here Nov 10 20:54:18 maybee has some thoughts I didnt know yet Nov 10 20:54:20 woglinde: oh I see; however this has a high potention of break things Nov 10 20:54:47 hi wog! Any luck with apache2? :) Nov 10 20:54:48 woglinde: since currently the wildcards of FILES_${PN} use this behaviour for long time. Nov 10 20:55:18 hubar hm not yet Nov 10 20:55:21 woglinde: I do believe this should be done in a branch and people try it out before it has been merged. So all "regressions" can be solve before it Nov 10 20:55:23 I worked on grass so hard Nov 10 20:55:40 woglinde: as it has been done for Xorg 7.4 for example Nov 10 20:56:16 otavio yes I know Nov 10 20:56:35 problem is Nov 10 20:56:47 that there arent many people who are testing Nov 10 20:56:54 which Nov 10 20:56:56 hrms Nov 10 20:56:57 woglinde: my suggestion would be: do it in a branch, make it available and send a mail to the mailing list asking for comments. Nov 10 20:57:12 woglinde: if nobody complain about it in few days; merge it Nov 10 20:57:34 woglinde: I did; I tested Xorg and reported my found issues (GL related build problem) Nov 10 20:58:24 yeah but no other tested it Nov 10 21:08:27 woglinde: this is not a justify to blindly merge something. Nov 10 21:09:04 woglinde: if people don't test it but you gave them an opportunity for that, so is their fault and they cannot blame you; this is not the same in the other way ;-) Nov 10 21:09:26 otavio *g* all that I know Nov 10 21:09:34 ? Nov 10 21:09:44 * otavio is not native speaker .. sorry Nov 10 21:09:49 * otavio is Brazilian ;-) Nov 10 21:09:56 otavio that I know too Nov 10 21:12:07 Oh I believe I've found the Xorg build failure reason ;-) Nov 10 21:12:11 * otavio will give it a try Nov 10 21:17:39 * otavio looks at a glibc build failure :-D Nov 10 21:17:45 wow this is being fun :-) Nov 10 21:33:30 03pieterg  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r11aea884fa 10openembedded.git/packages/libxslt/libxslt_1.1.12.bb: libxslt: configure without crypto support, to avoid dragging in libgcrypt and libgpg-error Nov 10 21:33:35 03ghost  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r3b1df23ab7 10openembedded.git/packages/tuxbox/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Add Tuxcom for 32bpp Framebuffer Nov 10 21:33:36 03Andreas Oberritter  07org.openembedded.dreambox * rd0f1588455 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Nov 10 21:33:36 linux-dm800*: add ethtool support to bcmemac Nov 10 21:33:36 (obsoletes linux-2.6.12-fix-bcmemac-ioctl.patch) Nov 10 21:33:38 03ghost  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r24797a32c6 10openembedded.git/packages/dreambox/dreambox-bootlogo.bb: dreambox-bootlogo.bb: install mvi files on dm800 and dm8000 to /usr/share Nov 10 21:33:41 03pieterg  07org.openembedded.dreambox * rfd776b29f1 10openembedded.git/packages/libxml/libxml2_2.6.32.bb: configure libxml2 with c14n (required by python-lxml) Nov 10 21:33:44 03Andreas Oberritter  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r2136e1a5d7 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (6 files): Nov 10 21:33:47 linux-dm*: remove PN entirely Nov 10 21:33:49 Variable substitution unobviously happens after finding the latest Nov 10 21:33:51 package revision, which is why linux-dm800-r10 was prefered over Nov 10 21:33:53 linux-dm8000-r7. It can be safely removed, because PN defaults to the Nov 10 21:34:27 package's filename. We've also been the only user of it in linux-*.bb. Nov 10 21:34:27 03pieterg  07org.openembedded.dreambox * ra963310e3d 10openembedded.git/packages/timezones/ (files/zoneinfo.tar.bz2 timezones-alternative.bb): timezones-alternative updated to 2008i Nov 10 21:34:27 03pieterg  07org.openembedded.dreambox * ra9407003c3 10openembedded.git/packages/nfs-utils/ (files/nfsserver nfs-utils_1.0.6.bb): nfs-utils: load the nfsd kernel module before starting nfsd Nov 10 21:34:28 03pieterg  07org.openembedded.dreambox * rd3449bed36 10openembedded.git/packages/dropbear/dropbear_0.48.1.bb: dropbear: disable wtmp, to avoid a fast growing /var/log/wtmp Nov 10 21:34:31 03Felix Domke  07org.openembedded.dreambox * rd9191248dd 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'opendreambox-pli' of http://git.grimmerink.nl/opendreambox-1.5 into org.openembedded.dreambox Nov 10 21:34:34 03Felix Domke  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r98dcc945e2 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dreambox' of git://git.opendreambox.org/git/ghost/opendreambox-1.5 into org.openembedded.dreambox Nov 10 21:45:17 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * re9eaf164be 10openembedded.git/packages/gdal/ (files/gdal_config.patch gdal_1.5.2.bb): Nov 10 21:45:17 gdal-1.5.2: fix various stuff Nov 10 21:45:17 * *-config file in staging had the wrong directories Nov 10 21:45:17 * put /usr/share into dev files to save space on Nov 10 21:45:17 the devices, should eventually become -example Nov 10 21:45:21 * bump PR Nov 10 22:13:37 hi ant Nov 10 22:13:48 morning Nov 10 22:13:55 hi woglinde Nov 10 22:22:19 woglinde: doing a build I caught following bits: any idea? http://rafb.net/p/Os3YTs32.html Nov 10 22:23:05 * ant_ was hoping the libc / libgcc so issues were solved Nov 10 22:32:49 hm its just a warning righjt? Nov 10 22:33:29 seems so Nov 10 22:33:55 and I don't think it triggered a QA Nov 10 22:34:46 then dont worry Nov 10 22:34:52 ~lart busibox and su not set SUID Nov 10 22:34:52 * ibot shoves a crumpet down busibox and su not set SUID's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? Nov 10 22:36:29 eh it's not a misspell...in my language 'busi' has a distinct meaning... Nov 10 22:39:16 ant_ ints free cowpiss you can set it want you want Nov 10 22:39:30 no vendor lockout Nov 10 22:39:48 but..who changed the old behavior in OE? Nov 10 22:40:13 I only found 'su' lacks SUID but perhaps more binaries Nov 10 22:41:09 ant_ chat with pb about it Nov 10 22:41:48 strange things happened during my short absence...the most annoying is oebug 4784 Nov 10 22:42:15 I mean, it did not happen util mid ocrober Nov 10 22:42:30 UNTIL MID OCTOBER Nov 10 22:42:38 * ant_ recalibrates fingers Nov 10 22:44:37 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded.user/567 Nov 10 22:44:43 is another error Nov 10 22:44:45 and fixed Nov 10 22:45:10 ah sorry Nov 10 22:45:13 on top of that Nov 10 22:45:26 he, why openzaurus for omap5912osk ' Nov 10 22:45:32 don't know whete the 2.95 comes from Nov 10 22:45:47 zaurus comp Nov 10 22:45:56 for old images Nov 10 22:45:59 from sharp Nov 10 22:46:04 maybee you missed something Nov 10 22:46:08 to undeclare Nov 10 22:46:29 woglinde: yesterday I tried with another distro (minimal), always for c7x0 Nov 10 22:46:35 same notes Nov 10 22:46:47 ah Nov 10 22:46:56 seems your kernel package is somehow wrong Nov 10 22:47:16 and it tries to search one and got even this old one openzaurus-sa Nov 10 22:47:28 which only can be compiled with gcc-2.95 Nov 10 22:47:36 I can only remember 'collie' had some module-transplantation from 2.4 recently Nov 10 22:47:46 iirc Nov 10 22:48:57 yeah somehow its want a 2.4 kernel Nov 10 22:49:04 try to find what it causes Nov 10 22:49:07 woglinde: don't you have in your simpad logs? Nov 10 22:49:39 ant hm Nov 10 22:49:41 no Nov 10 22:49:57 let me try angstrom-2008.1 and simpad here Nov 10 22:50:01 mom Nov 10 22:50:07 ant are all stuff you are working with are checked in? Nov 10 22:50:20 hmm..no Nov 10 22:50:33 but the patches are ininfluent I guess Nov 10 22:50:41 haha Nov 10 22:50:44 you might think Nov 10 22:50:54 okay then I can search the error for you Nov 10 22:50:55 :-] Nov 10 22:50:57 cannt Nov 10 22:51:00 I mean Nov 10 22:51:20 you're right, I see the risk Nov 10 22:52:00 I?ll post a multi-diff (don't worry, it's short) Nov 10 22:54:46 woglinde: here http://www.pastebin.ca/1251258 Nov 10 22:57:40 hm okay only kexec stuff Nov 10 23:00:09 rebuilding without 'require conf/machine/include/kexecboot.inc'... Nov 10 23:00:19 just to see Nov 10 23:01:08 no. same errors Nov 10 23:04:58 strange Nov 10 23:05:08 than you have some other diffs Nov 10 23:05:14 not aware off Nov 10 23:05:17 hm Nov 10 23:05:37 haha, does even happen if MACHINE = "simpad" http://rafb.net/p/IUKQ5D17.html Nov 10 23:05:43 *here* Nov 10 23:05:48 *g* Nov 10 23:06:39 woglinde: the diffs are the 4 files coming from 'git format-patch origin'. Anything more. Nov 10 23:06:52 ant_: morning :) Nov 10 23:07:09 Jay7: he..12.07 here Nov 10 23:07:22 early morning! Nov 10 23:07:35 02:07 here ;) Nov 10 23:07:44 woglinde: I use the local.conf.example with minimal edits Nov 10 23:07:55 1606 here .. Nov 10 23:08:07 tee-time..he Nov 10 23:08:12 time zone calibration :) Nov 10 23:09:05 * Jay7 is trying to reassemble MS NEK4k keyboard.. Nov 10 23:10:30 ant RDEPENDS/RRECOMMENDS or otherwise requires the runtime entity 'virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc Nov 10 23:10:33 this wrong Nov 10 23:10:40 simpad cannot do eabi Nov 10 23:11:11 I just changed machine in local.conf Nov 10 23:12:15 btw I'm rebuilding from scratch each time Nov 10 23:12:50 could you do a new local branch from remote Nov 10 23:12:56 and try it there Nov 10 23:13:06 maybee you copy local.conf.sample other Nov 10 23:13:13 just to be sure Nov 10 23:13:15 it is oe Nov 10 23:13:38 woglinde: http://rafb.net/p/lCoitm49.html Nov 10 23:15:06 good lord, git is so much nicer to use than mtn :D Nov 10 23:15:36 no doubt Nov 10 23:16:36 woglinde: BB_DEFAULT_TASK = "buildall" perhaps? Nov 10 23:16:46 some remote deps? Nov 10 23:18:33 ant_ yes that it cpuld be Nov 10 23:18:55 ok, let comment it Nov 10 23:22:58 bluelightning: you know what? Opie is today more stable/usable than GPE on Z Nov 10 23:23:22 ant_: well, we had quite a good base to build on (at the time) Nov 10 23:23:27 he...havin' you logging in as root ! Nov 10 23:23:53 so you don't see the busybox breakages Nov 10 23:24:39 hmm, I can't seem to push stuff to OE... perhaps I've not set something up correctly? Nov 10 23:24:58 I just get "fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" Nov 10 23:25:09 bluelightning: I missed it..did you port a working browser with SSL and JS for OPIE? Nov 10 23:25:47 ant_: well, we patched up a version of Konqueror Embedded, yes Nov 10 23:25:54 it supports SSL & JS Nov 10 23:26:33 following the git FAQ entry it says to try connecting via ssh directly, but it seems it does not recognise my key when I do that with the usernames I would expect to work Nov 10 23:27:21 git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded ? Nov 10 23:28:41 bluelightning a newer version of Konqueror Embedded or just the old from road? Nov 10 23:28:56 woglinde: old from road Nov 10 23:29:05 ant_: yes Nov 10 23:29:15 woglinde: same errors, even commenting out 'buildall' Nov 10 23:32:38 ant please make copy local.conf.sample over Nov 10 23:32:45 and try this again Nov 10 23:32:47 yep Nov 10 23:32:50 with minimal settings Nov 10 23:33:17 shuld I check another branch out? Nov 10 23:34:24 dev Nov 10 23:34:27 I have Nov 10 23:34:32 and no problems Nov 10 23:34:47 I hav emy own branch, cloned from dev Nov 10 23:34:53 shou Nov 10 23:34:57 03Dmitry Baryshkov  07org.openembedded.dev * r605bcac3af 10openembedded.git/packages/libmailwrapper/libmailwrapper_1.2.4.bb: Nov 10 23:34:57 libmailwrapper: add 1.2.4 version recipe Nov 10 23:34:57 Signed-off-by: Dmitry Baryshkov Nov 10 23:34:58 03Dmitry Baryshkov  07org.openembedded.dev * r72503ee854 10openembedded.git/packages/meta/meta-toolchain-opie.bb: Nov 10 23:35:00 meta-toolchain-opie: add Opie SDK package Nov 10 23:35:02 Signed-off-by: Dmitry Baryshkov Nov 10 23:35:04 03Dmitry Baryshkov  07org.openembedded.dev * r986245012f 10openembedded.git/packages/opie-cardapplet/opie-cardapplet_1.2.4.bb: Nov 10 23:35:07 opie-cardapplet: add 1.2.4 version recipe Nov 10 23:35:09 Signed-off-by: Dmitry Baryshkov Nov 10 23:35:11 03Dmitry Baryshkov  07org.openembedded.dev * r1e90c8d745 10openembedded.git/packages/tasks/task-sdk-opie.bb: Nov 10 23:35:16 task-sdk-opie: correctly select qte or qte-mt Nov 10 23:35:18 preferred-versions-opie*.inc contain a mechanism for selecting between Nov 10 23:35:20 qte or qte-mt packages. Follow that way to correctly select Nov 10 23:35:22 task-sdk-opie dependency. Nov 10 23:35:24 Signed-off-by: Dmitry Baryshkov Nov 10 23:35:58 ant_ I said clone a branch from remote Nov 10 23:36:11 copy over minimal locla.conf.sample Nov 10 23:36:13 fixed, seems I checked out read-only before Nov 10 23:36:21 and try if the error is there Nov 10 23:36:25 great error message there though Nov 10 23:36:35 ant all other tries are nonsens Nov 10 23:36:51 oki Nov 10 23:37:34 ant git checkout -a newmybranch origin/org.openembedded.dev Nov 10 23:37:38 even, my diffs in local.conf were only involving paths.. Nov 10 23:40:53 obviously you meant '-b', isn't? Nov 10 23:41:18 hm yes could be Nov 10 23:41:34 is what I do usually :-) Nov 11 00:03:44 woglinde: no luck..here all my steps and the errors: http://rafb.net/p/Flsgou13.html Nov 11 00:07:16 * Jay7 -> sleep Nov 11 00:07:29 ant hm Nov 11 00:07:50 ant but you didnt copy local.conf.sample Nov 11 00:07:55 and setup it up Nov 11 00:08:16 yep..edited the paths and pointed to /oe/org.openembedded.dev Nov 11 00:08:25 and /oe/sources Nov 11 00:08:30 03Daniel Willmann  07org.openembedded.dev * rf377746d0c 10openembedded.git/packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/openmoko/Xserver: xserver-kdrive-common: Update openmoko/Xserver script Nov 11 00:08:41 (like I had in my env-setup script) Nov 11 00:29:28 'nite Nov 11 00:42:00 humm interesting ... some packages fail for a unknown reason and I rebuild then they do succeed. However they fail in the package spliting stage .. any guess? Nov 11 00:42:35 nope Nov 11 00:42:40 I am going to bed now Nov 11 00:42:41 nite Nov 11 01:03:57 03ghost  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r454188c155 10openembedded.git/packages/dreambox/dreambox-bootlogo.bb: dreambox_bootlogo.bb: /boot must be remountet rw before install / remove files Nov 11 01:03:57 03ghost  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r686551385a 10openembedded.git/packages/dreambox/dreambox-secondstage.bb: dreambox-secondstage.bb: update dm8000 2ndstage loader Nov 11 01:03:57 03ghost  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r74620a862c 10openembedded.git/packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: Nov 11 01:03:58 dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: update dm8000 modules and fp Nov 11 01:04:00 cleanup Nov 11 01:04:02 03ghost  07org.openembedded.dreambox * rbeac977598 10openembedded.git/packages/enigma2/enigma2-plugins.bb: enigma2-plugins.bb: update SRCDATE Nov 11 01:04:05 03ghost  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r77cbeb3cf1 10openembedded.git/packages/enigma2/enigma2.bb: enigma2.bb: update SRCDATE Nov 11 01:04:08 03ghost  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r172f134878 10openembedded.git/packages/dreambox/dreambox-bootlogo.bb: dreambox-bootlogo.bb: fix non working Nov 11 01:04:13 03ghost  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r5d39f494af 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dreambox' of git://git.opendreambox.org/git/obi/opendreambox-1.5 into org.openembedded.dreambox Nov 11 01:04:17 03Felix Domke  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r84aa2a7488 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dreambox' of git://git.opendreambox.org/git/ghost/opendreambox-1.5 into org.openembedded.dreambox Nov 11 02:52:42 i've got a question about bitbake, which i'm using with oe. i haven't found any separate bitbake help resource, so asking here Nov 11 02:53:58 how do i get bitbake to rerun a step without it rewriting a new script file? mainly, the run.do_stage.XXXXX file needs a fixup for my host platform, but if i change it and run again, a new file is written out with a different numerical suffix Nov 11 02:55:17 alternatively, what is the source of these scripts that are put in the temp dir during build? i could edit that source if there's no way to get it to reuse the script after its edited **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 11 02:59:57 2008