**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 12 02:59:56 2009 Mar 12 03:40:25 hi. I have glib-2.0 and gstreamer-0.10 in /myoe/tmp/staging/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib(or include), these was builded by oe. Because I want to build qte 4.5 by handmade using its tootchain, how should I give their inlcude/libriaries files to let qte know that? Mar 12 03:52:50 hi. I have glib-2.0 and gstreamer-0.10 in /myoe/tmp/staging/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib(or include), these was builded by oe. Because I want to build qte 4.5 by handmade using its tootchain, how should I give their inlcude/libriaries files to let qte know that? Mar 12 03:54:24 the configuration, please see at: http://pastebin.ca/1358762 Mar 12 04:45:03 any ideas? Mar 12 07:03:09 * XorA curses Mar 12 07:04:38 ? Mar 12 07:05:49 gcc 4.2.4 doesnt understand -march=core2 Mar 12 07:06:24 -march=prescott for 32-bit or -march=nocona for 64-bit Mar 12 07:06:41 MostAwesomeDude: its not a prescott Mar 12 07:07:07 XorA: That's the Intel-recommended march for 32-bit Core2. Don't know why, but it is. Mar 12 07:07:32 MostAwesomeDude: seems to be not the recommended for atom, as its most definely not prescott Mar 12 07:07:51 XorA: Atom != Core2 though. Mar 12 07:08:16 MostAwesomeDude: its core2 instructions with pentium optimisations according to everything I can find Mar 12 07:08:57 Hm. Well, I've never heard of the core2 march, but I'm not an expert. Mar 12 07:23:29 XorA: core2 was added after 4.2 was branched out Mar 12 07:23:45 XorA: -march=generic should be close enough Mar 12 07:24:15 XorA: or use 4.3 if you really want to use core2 Mar 12 07:24:15 khem: we have 4.3.3 in OE, no reason not to give it a try Mar 12 07:24:39 yes there you go brave man. I use 4.3.3 Mar 12 07:27:17 crap the busybox patches have been refreshed Mar 12 07:28:44 yes unfortunately Mar 12 07:29:00 you know it when checksum barfs Mar 12 07:29:14 yeah, I just saw it and checked the dates on them Mar 12 07:30:20 * khem -> sleep() Mar 12 07:30:28 gnite khem Mar 12 07:34:49 zecke pasted "bumped rev for john" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/76878 Mar 12 09:00:02 good morning Mar 12 09:35:20 Anybody familiar with the PXA RC servo module found here www.pabr.org ? I'm trying to adapt/port? it to work with 2.6.28. The #DEFINE PXA_LAST_GPIO has been replaced with a runtime variable or funtion, but i cannot work out how to access this Mar 12 10:04:26 good morning Mar 12 10:25:08 hi florian Mar 12 11:25:21 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rf3ddf3a7f4 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: add more checksums Mar 12 11:25:26 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rd436f4f6a5 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 12 11:25:46 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r3b9da5b334 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums: add ti codeccs Mar 12 11:53:56 03John Lee  07org.openembedded.dev * r9f26d3e3f1 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs: update fso-abyss, libgsm0710 and libgsm0710mux rev. Mar 12 11:59:09 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r67037d2f8c 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/gstreamer-ti_svn.bb: gstreamer-ti: bump PR Mar 12 11:59:18 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rbc88b08d98 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 12 13:13:25 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * rcab70860b8 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/proftpd/proftpd_1.3.2.bb): proftpd: yet another ftp daemon; created recipe Mar 12 13:13:26 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r15fe207f42 10openembedded.git/packages/zope/zope_3.3.1.bb: zope: added __init__.py* files to python-zopeinterface, otherwie the package does not work! Mar 12 13:13:26 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r706987bb34 10openembedded.git/packages/python/python-coherence_0.6.0.bb: python-coherence_0.6.0.bb: removed (should have been moved to 0.6.2 but a new 0.6.2 was made, so dropping this one now) Mar 12 13:13:29 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r3e60916fa5 10openembedded.git/packages/python/python-coherence_0.6.2.bb: python-coherence: updated DEPENDS (removed unneeded zope, added a few missing ones) Mar 12 13:13:33 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r2daee06195 10openembedded.git/packages/ncurses/ncurses_5.4.bb: ncurses: set LEAD_SONAME to libncurses.so.5 and bump PR Mar 12 13:13:36 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r1d309e8823 10openembedded.git/packages/libsdl/libsdl-directfb_1.2.11.bb: libsdl-directfb: added updated version 1.2.11 Mar 12 13:13:41 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r122a6e851c 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: add sums for rhino Mar 12 13:13:44 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * rb281c79d43 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/chinook-compat.conf: chinook-compat: pin to older avahi version Mar 12 13:13:47 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r3c1d52658d 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: Mar 12 13:13:52 checksums.ini: Mar 12 13:13:54 * add openjdk-6-src-b14-25_nov_2008 Mar 12 13:13:56 * add hotspotversion f9d938ede196 Mar 12 13:13:58 * add icedtea6-1.4 Mar 12 13:14:00 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r4f102692b1 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 12 13:14:03 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * refb0de8713 10openembedded.git/contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh: angstrom/build-feeds.sh: added proftpd and wt3 to the feed Mar 12 13:14:08 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r01c9b96339 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/chinook-compat.conf: Mar 12 13:14:11 chinook-compat: pin libtool revision Mar 12 13:14:13 * pin libtool-native and cross to 1.5.10 otherwise the Mar 12 13:14:15 older freetype 2.2 version can't be build Mar 12 13:14:17 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r9bf2becd7b 10openembedded.git/ (5 files in 3 dirs): wt3: created: wt 3.* (including 2.99); retain package wt (which is for 2.*) as 2.* and 3.* are not compatible Mar 12 13:14:20 someone kicked cia ? Mar 12 13:14:25 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * rffe697599f 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 12 13:14:28 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r68441bdc24 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/chinook-compat.conf: chinook-compat: pin version of libsdl-directfb to 1.2.11 Mar 12 13:14:33 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r261de744b0 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: add sums for icedtea6-1.3.1 Mar 12 13:14:36 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * raec77de178 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: add sums for openjdk-6-src-b12-28_aug_2008 Mar 12 13:42:27 morning Mar 12 13:45:53 morning hrw Mar 12 14:00:01 hi hrw Mar 12 14:12:37 hrw, saw your email on quilt; newbe stuff for an oldtimer like me :-), do I need to be in a specific dir to issue the commands ? Mar 12 14:17:16 re Mar 12 14:17:45 eFfeM: if project has any OE patches then it will have ${S}/patches/ dir already so your new patch will land there Mar 12 14:17:55 eFfeM: otherwise patches/ dir will be created in $PWD Mar 12 14:20:19 hrw, ok mainly worried about where to execute things like quilt add; Mar 12 14:20:29 i'll give it a try on the next package i port Mar 12 14:23:53 (01:23:42 PM) methril|work is now known as methril|lunch Mar 12 14:23:58 must be a nice lunch :-) Mar 12 14:24:03 hehehe Mar 12 14:24:15 just kidding ofc Mar 12 14:24:16 eFfeM: i forget to change my nick :) Mar 12 14:24:52 yeah, that is what mickey also says if he is zzZZzz until late in the afternoon :-) Mar 12 14:25:47 often i just notice forgetting to change the nick back after typing a message or 2 Mar 12 14:25:49 once is mickey in the gym all the night Mar 12 14:26:08 sporty guy :-) Mar 12 14:26:11 s/is/i see Mar 12 14:28:04 03Robert Schuster  07org.openembedded.dev * r9fa9bd2cb9 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/llvm/llvm-native_2.5.bb): Mar 12 14:28:04 llvm-native 2.5: New recipe. Mar 12 14:28:04 checksums.ini: Added llvm 2.5 entry. Mar 12 14:42:02 what is the solution if when baking a package I get a wrapper script made by ltmain.sh ? Mar 12 14:42:16 it seems to depend on libpam.la, i've already added DEPENDS="libpam" but to no avail Mar 12 14:50:25 how do i run xtscal at the start Mar 12 14:50:38 gpe is displaying a login screen and my touch isnt calibrated Mar 12 14:50:49 sx4: rm /etc/pointercal and reboot Mar 12 14:54:18 i still get the login screen Mar 12 14:54:38 i dont get calibration app at all (xtscal isnt being run) Mar 12 14:55:10 yo have remote connection to device? Mar 12 14:55:14 "DISPLAY=:0 xtscal" Mar 12 14:55:16 serial Mar 12 14:55:29 i dont get the shell prompt Mar 12 14:56:12 what should i do to get the shell prompt directly? Mar 12 14:57:01 edit /etc/inittab? Mar 12 15:01:41 no luck Mar 12 15:03:40 XorA|gone: angstrom-sqeeezy - what it is? Mar 12 15:05:10 is it easy peezy? Mar 12 15:06:26 03Robert Schuster  07org.openembedded.dev * rb9fece3136 10openembedded.git/packages/cmake/cmake-native_2.6.3.bb: cmake-native 2.6.3: New recipe. Mar 12 15:06:33 03Robert Schuster  07org.openembedded.dev * r994c99d511 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Added cmake 2.6.3 entry. Mar 12 15:08:38 hrw: angstrom task extended with matchbox Mar 12 15:44:03 hi. in oe, it has a feature named devshell, does it mean that it helps us set the environment for cross compile, we just use it as in scrachbox? Mar 12 15:44:22 just like in scrachbox? Mar 12 15:46:01 favor: that's the idea, yes, but not just like scratchbox. scratchbox uses binfmt_misc to send executions of target binaries to a target, we don't do that. but the necessary variables are set in the environment so you should be able to build fine,f or the most part Mar 12 15:49:28 kergoth: it will download the source and apply any patches prior to opening the shell, is it? Mar 12 15:49:47 favor: yes Mar 12 15:50:11 do_devshell task depends on do_patch Mar 12 15:51:08 kergoth: and then, set the cross compile to proper target. and later on, what we can do is to configure, and make, then make install, is it? Mar 12 15:51:44 no. OpenEmbedded calls configure with very specific arguments. unless you do so as well, its doubtful itll behave as you expect Mar 12 15:51:54 better to bitbake -c configure foo; bitbake -c devshell foo Mar 12 15:53:31 favor: same goes for other build systems like cmake Mar 12 15:54:17 now that i'm thinking about it, itd be cool to emit OpenEmbedded's shell scripts for the tasks into a dir in ${S} or ${WORKDIR}, so the user could more easily re-run them from the devshell Mar 12 15:54:32 err, actually... you dont need to do that Mar 12 15:54:49 favor: try typing do_configure and hitting enter, in the devshell. Mar 12 15:55:28 * kergoth isnt sure if thatll work or not Mar 12 15:55:56 I have mistaken devshell, I think it acts a box, in which we can build packages for targets. Mar 12 15:56:33 its just a tool to make it easier to do active development and stuff with bitbake. bitbake still does the building, devshell just makes it easier to drop into the source tree and make temporary changes Mar 12 16:15:47 kergoth: I get into the devshell, and if I have download a new package, can I configure it for cross compile? Do I still need the patchs from OE? if OE don't have the patchs right now, what should i do? Mar 12 16:16:31 once again, devshell is for making changes to the source code. if you don't need to do so, you dont need the devshell, just use bitbake as as the documentation instructs Mar 12 16:21:04 kergoth, change the source code for convenience, yeah, i see. Can you tell me how to add a new bb file for building a new package given that OE haven't provide. Mar 12 16:21:23 there are over 6,000 examples. i think you can figure it out Mar 12 16:24:30 I looked carefully over serial weeks, there are many constant I don't know exactly? I am reading the user manual in twice times. Mar 12 16:24:56 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r005826c1b8 10openembedded.git/packages/proftpd/proftpd_1.3.2.bb: proftpd: previous recipe was no good; fixed it; this one is without pam and might require some more chown's Mar 12 16:24:56 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r337be70ba5 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 12 16:25:49 likewise, found that the previous proftpd was no good, so fixed it; no pam and not sure if all needed files are chowned to root but guess this will help you or your collegue going Mar 12 16:26:30 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r8e20860ee3 10openembedded.git/packages/tasks/task-cli-tools.bb: task-cli-tools: add subpackage task-cli-tools-debug shipping some of the common debug utilities Mar 12 16:26:31 03Elena Grandi  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r38c97faec3 10openembedded.git/packages/tuxmath/tuxmath_1.6.0.bb: tuxmath: removed old 1.6.0 version that never properly worked Mar 12 16:26:32 03Koen Kooi  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r34101fe143 10openembedded.git/packages/images/distcc-slave-image.bb: distcc-slave-image: add image that has all the needed tools to act as a distcc slave Mar 12 16:26:36 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r7889762148 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/minimal.conf: minimal.conf: ship task-cli-debug, if we're building a debug distro Mar 12 16:26:39 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r6e4b0ec7b6 10openembedded.git/packages/tasks/task-cli-tools.bb: task-cli-tools: add some more utilities as suggested by hrw Mar 12 16:26:42 03Stanislav Brabec  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r222487a1a7 10openembedded.git/packages/gnome/gnome-vfs_2.22.0.bb: Mar 12 16:26:43 shit Mar 12 16:26:45 gnome-vfs: DEPENDS on dbus-glib: Mar 12 16:26:47 http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2009-March/008659.html Mar 12 16:26:51 cia flood ;( Mar 12 16:26:55 03woglinde  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r4051f77a46 10openembedded.git/MAINTAINERS: MAINTAINERS; update my entry Mar 12 16:26:58 03Koen Kooi  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * rcbd716b576 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-omap-pm/beagleboard/defconfig: linux-omap-pm: enable bridging for beagleboard Mar 12 16:27:01 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * rb722597d1b 10openembedded.git/packages/vala/ (vala-native_0.5.7.bb vala-native_git.bb vala.inc): vala-native: add git version (DP=-1) Mar 12 16:27:02 kergoth: this is my second time to reading official user manual. anyhow, I will try my best. Mar 12 16:27:05 03Thomas Kunze  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r266a77ff6f 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (linux-2.6.24/simpad/defconfig linux_2.6.24.bb): Mar 12 16:27:08 linux_2.6.24: add ide-cs to defconfig Mar 12 16:27:09 hrw, any RPM related bugfixes go in? Mar 12 16:27:10 This is necessary to have root on cf-cards. Mar 12 16:27:12 03Koen Kooi  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r0af3546821 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux-omap, -pm: add patch to reset MUSB phy Mar 12 16:27:16 Tartarus: not yet Mar 12 16:27:19 k Mar 12 16:27:23 03Koen Kooi  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r1e8947ddee 10openembedded.git/packages/images/distcc-slave-image.bb: distcc-slave-image: add wirelesstools and iptables Mar 12 16:27:26 03Philip Balister  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r79e14954d7 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-davinci_2.6.25.bb: linux-davinci-2.6.25 : Fix recipe so it builds reliably. Update git url. Mar 12 16:27:30 03Thomas Kunze  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r29839e2c84 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (linux-2.6.24/simpad/defconfig linux.inc): Mar 12 16:27:33 fix configuration of older kernels Mar 12 16:27:34 Gonna setup my new build box once the parts arrive today :) Mar 12 16:27:35 Was broken from commit b697819f7e84e19ca2adc9846421c8c8137b8fca Mar 12 16:27:37 for kernels that have no scripts/Makefile.fwinst (<=2.6.26 or so) Mar 12 16:27:39 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * reecd3b4269 10openembedded.git/packages/freesmartphone/ (libgsm0710mux/om-3d7k/abyss.conf libgsm0710mux_git.bb): libgsm0710mux: fix modem path on om-3d7k Mar 12 16:27:51 03Philip Balister  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * rc707ef1efb 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/davinci-sffsdr.conf: davinci-sffsdr : Remove dsplink dependency until dsplink works on sffsdr board. Mar 12 16:27:55 03Khem Raj  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * rb7ce9179e0 10openembedded.git/packages/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) Mar 12 16:27:56 Tartarus: what inside of buildbox? Mar 12 16:28:00 gnutls-2.4.2: Get rid of siginterrupt () call. Mar 12 16:28:02 util-linux-ng-2.14: Ditto Mar 12 16:28:04 * siginterrupt () is SUSV4 function which is Mar 12 16:28:06 better to be replaced by sigaction as suggested Mar 12 16:28:08 by standard. Below is from http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/ Mar 12 16:28:10 (97 lines omitted) Mar 12 16:28:12 03Thomas Kunze  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r768fe337b0 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (linux-2.6.24/simpad/defconfig linux_2.6.24.bb): linux_2.6.24: enable serial_cs for simpad Mar 12 16:28:14 8gb ram and a quad core 3ghz amd64 Mar 12 16:28:18 whatever the codename is on that Mar 12 16:28:19 03Tom Rini  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r9924dde8ff 10openembedded.git/classes/module-base.bbclass: Mar 12 16:28:22 Revert "module-base: Fix the test on KERNEL_OBJECT_SUFFIX" Mar 12 16:28:24 This reverts commit 25b281668e62d90c027978b13b53075534b81d0c. Mar 12 16:28:26 As pointed out by Pieter my logic here was backwards Mar 12 16:28:30 and the code was correct before and this change is incorrect. Mar 12 16:28:34 03Stanislav Brabec  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r96ce45b802 10openembedded.git/packages/maemo/ (osso-esd/qa-silence.patch osso-esd_0.5.bb): osso-esd: Fixed configure QA failure. Mar 12 16:28:37 03Lukas Gorris  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r101860728e 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 12 16:28:42 03Robert Schuster  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r370379133d 10openembedded.git/packages/antlr/antlr-native_2.7.7.bb: antlr 2.7.7: Use java-native bbclass. Mar 12 16:28:45 03Koen Kooi  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * rbc88b08d98 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 12 16:28:48 03woglinde  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * r68441bdc24 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/chinook-compat.conf: chinook-compat: pin version of libsdl-directfb to 1.2.11 Mar 12 16:28:53 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07hrw/poky-merge/add-rpm-packages-support * rc71a6ebf79 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libcap2: libcap 2.16; created as separate package to allow both .so.1 and .so.2 to coexist Mar 12 16:29:03 Tartarus: athlon64 quad? Mar 12 16:29:07 yeah Mar 12 16:29:14 nice stuff Mar 12 16:29:20 hope so :) Mar 12 16:29:27 gonna have 3TB usable space too Mar 12 16:29:37 Tartarus: buildbot on it? Mar 12 16:30:03 Perhaps Mar 12 16:30:08 Need to setup work stuff first Mar 12 16:30:21 sure Mar 12 16:30:51 But I will be doing DISTRO=minimal stuff on it, or the boxes I currently have still :) Mar 12 16:30:55 Not sure which will be faster in the end Mar 12 16:35:17 eFfeM: could it be the previous recipe did nothing? :-) Mar 12 16:35:26 eFfeM: well, after unpack Mar 12 16:37:37 eFfeM: thanks we will tune it and commit back any improvements that might be generic enough. Mar 12 16:38:40 Tartarus: only 8GB Mar 12 16:38:52 ya, 16 was just out of budget :) Mar 12 16:39:12 Tartarus: I have 32 at home ... dual quad core 2.8GHz Mar 12 16:39:29 nice Mar 12 16:39:39 that box was expensive too Mar 12 16:39:47 heh Mar 12 16:39:49 this was not Mar 12 16:39:59 $1100 shipped, $1200 if you include the UPS Mar 12 16:40:02 but it run all the os I need for work Mar 12 16:40:22 chouimat|work: xeons? Mar 12 16:40:31 hrw: yes ... it's a mac pro Mar 12 16:40:52 chouimat|work: that had to be next question ;D Mar 12 16:41:16 hrw: and no I didn't get the memory or the hdds from apple Mar 12 16:41:43 I probably put 5k in all on this box Mar 12 16:42:22 chouimat|work: no one sane pays for mem/hdd for apple Mar 12 16:43:00 hrw: I know Mar 12 16:44:47 hrw: I should get "my" sheevaplug by the end of the month ... ordered it yesterday Mar 12 16:48:22 eFfeM: you are missing a "make.patch" file I think Mar 12 16:49:06 chouimat|work: I am considering getting one too - 145USD with postage (+22% vat) Mar 12 16:49:55 119USD for me ... canada is closer, we might a few personal ones by the company but I will have to run our stuff on it :( Mar 12 16:49:59 morning all Mar 12 16:53:44 hi garren Mar 12 16:53:56 hey Mar 12 17:06:41 * mckoan is building KaeilOS with MACHINE=at91sam9g20ek for the first time Mar 12 17:08:08 mckoan hello :) Mar 12 17:08:43 * kgilmer is unable to get kaeilos to build given instructions on koan site. Mar 12 17:09:35 kgilmer: why ? Mar 12 17:10:24 well the configuration assumes everything is installed in /home/koan Mar 12 17:10:30 i think i changed all the references Mar 12 17:10:34 but still get bitbake errors Mar 12 17:11:04 if you follow the install directions step by step mckoan does it work for you? Mar 12 17:11:23 the problem is not with my machine: i can build with OE and Poky without problem. Mar 12 17:11:38 yes and not only for me, I have some customers using this smoothly Mar 12 17:11:56 Tartarus: alive? Mar 12 17:12:18 kgilmer: you should tell me what are you doing different from the document Mar 12 17:12:59 kgilmer: BTW are you in contact with Lorenzo ? Mar 12 17:13:22 Tartarus: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/download/diffs/0001-python-pysqlite2-native-added-for-rpm.patch - apply this, build python-pysqlite2-native and tell does it helps Mar 12 17:13:46 i'm installing in my own directory mckoan that is the only difference Mar 12 17:13:55 I haven't yet mckoan but I will, thanks :) Mar 12 17:14:40 kgilmer: in this case you must change *every* occurence of /koan/ in paths Mar 12 17:14:59 kgilmer: there are several files involved with that Mar 12 17:15:17 kgilmer: are you sure you did that? Mar 12 17:15:37 yes but i'll try again and document exactly where it breaks. i'll email you with the results. Mar 12 17:16:14 kgilmer: thank you, BTW Lorenzo will start from scratch the way you will suggest him Mar 12 17:16:18 * hrw bb soon Mar 12 17:16:21 reboot Mar 12 17:18:02 anyone familiar with the packaged staging code? Mar 12 17:24:35 Hello, has anyone been able to build OpenEmbedded for the Atheros ar71xx boards? Mar 12 17:27:26 * garren bbl Mar 12 18:04:37 likewise previous recipe indeed didn't do a thing, apparently configure did not run Mar 12 18:06:21 wanted to try it this afternoon and discovered it was empty Mar 12 18:20:00 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r37dbb4f357 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 12 18:20:06 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r5ad2cf5ec3 10openembedded.git/packages/proftpd/files/make.patch: proftpd: added missing make.patch Mar 12 18:22:57 <_diego_> hello, again problem with porting dovecot to OE: Mar 12 18:22:58 <_diego_> | /mnt/sdd1/oegit/tmp/cross/i486/lib/gcc/i486-angstrom-linux/4.2.4/../../../../i Mar 12 18:23:02 <_diego_> 486-angstrom-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lrpcsvc Mar 12 18:23:26 <_diego_> but rpcsvc should be in glibc, what's wrong? Mar 12 18:25:02 likewilse will be doing some testing on proftpd, noticed that some of the default paths are not proper, and it might need an mkdir /var/proftpd in install Mar 12 18:38:51 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r971a08f557 10openembedded.git/packages/proftpd/proftpd_1.3.2.bb: proftpd: fixed paths Mar 12 18:39:46 likewise, paths are ok now, still get login failed when trying to connect (running proftpd standalone with the anonymous conf file: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/configs/anonymous.conf ) Mar 12 18:50:38 likewise, eating my words (chum, chum). it does work, forgot to make a user ftp which is used in case of anonymous Mar 12 18:50:44 arg Mar 12 18:51:01 i consider it done, feel free to comment/update/whatever Mar 12 18:54:18 . Mar 12 18:59:45 re Mar 12 19:00:27 Does anyone remember why a default /etc/localtime was installed along with the tzdata packages? Seems a bit of a silly thing to do... Mar 12 19:02:59 ehlo florian Mar 12 19:03:08 Tartarus: you there? Mar 12 19:03:42 florian: how goes ltg? Mar 12 19:03:50 re Mar 12 19:04:33 hrw: pretty good so far... it behaved pretty fine so far. Mar 12 19:04:45 cool Mar 12 19:04:57 * florian tried to fix some gforge bugs today, but this php code sucks badly Mar 12 19:05:01 ;D Mar 12 19:05:16 florian: how much strato wants for server like ltg? Mar 12 19:09:38 re Mar 12 19:10:38 hrw: ~80 EUR/month including flat traffic and some domains and backup space - but the hardware has changed in the meantime. Mar 12 19:11:25 the entry level server has 4GB of RAM and 2x500GB disk space now Mar 12 19:11:55 this reminds me to announce a small goodie :) Mar 12 19:12:09 which? Mar 12 19:12:14 ltg2 machine? Mar 12 19:14:04 lupine_: I got mail from Alice :) Mar 12 19:14:18 hrw: almost... Mar 12 19:14:37 florian: you can get multiple vps'es :) Mar 12 19:14:59 and split services between them Mar 12 19:15:10 http://imacshuffle.com/ Mar 12 19:16:25 Jay7: there are some offers with dedicated servers but using a san instead of a dedicated disk. might be a nice thing to avoid data loss Mar 12 19:16:42 hrw: *gg* Mar 12 19:16:53 when it is wide enough :) Mar 12 19:17:00 I mean bandwidth Mar 12 19:19:07 * Jay7 thinking that some big enough company that using OE in their work can provide some machine to OE services :) Mar 12 19:19:19 e.g. Intel :) Mar 12 19:19:53 is there a problem? Mar 12 19:20:36 sometimes the big companies have more trouble with infrastructure Mar 12 19:20:46 :) Mar 12 19:20:55 well, that is true :) Mar 12 19:20:57 Jay7: Its not only the machine... a reliable datacenter and good access in case of trouble is important. Mar 12 19:22:34 Jay7: Intel is not a problem Mar 12 19:22:54 * Jay7 thinking too about creating russian mirror of OE and Angstrom sites.. Mar 12 19:22:54 Jay7: finding place to colocate servers from Intel is a problem Mar 12 19:23:22 hrw: Intel should have datacenters :) Mar 12 19:24:43 iirc we had offer to get some older servers but did not had a place to connect them Mar 12 19:25:03 * hrw will get NGW100 soon Mar 12 19:27:03 hrw: that's nice Mar 12 19:27:36 i have one for quite a while... Mar 12 19:27:59 * florian wants to hack a cool gadget with ngw100 and raven Mar 12 19:28:19 florian: you got one of those 3 at fosdem? Mar 12 19:28:54 hrw: no, bought one some time ago Mar 12 19:29:37 florian: how good it works in OE? Mar 12 19:31:06 <_diego_> i wonder why intel should help. After all OE is about running linux on architecture different from x86 ^^ Mar 12 19:31:37 hrw: not that good... but i haven't tried for a while Mar 12 19:31:49 oe tends to run on x86 and we can generate for x86 targets Mar 12 19:32:07 intel own ohand iirc :) Mar 12 19:32:10 _diego_: intel has non x86 CPUs such as the IXP series Mar 12 19:32:16 we should fix that? Mar 12 19:32:17 so intel is using OE :) Mar 12 19:33:15 <_diego_> i thought they sell xscale things to marvell Mar 12 19:33:21 hrw: I'll use it ti test if I can adapt one of my pile of ARM JTAGs to work with Atmal stuff. Mar 12 19:33:37 eh Atmel Mar 12 19:34:47 hrw: i did the hdparm -T test for my beagle but I only get 112 MB/s, not 152 MB; not sure why this is, should I kill all unneeded processes before testing ? Mar 12 19:34:57 _diego_: they sold XScale but left IXP part Mar 12 19:34:57 hrw: I have seen a nice AP7000 board today Mar 12 19:35:16 eFfeM: you need to make few tests on idle system Mar 12 19:35:56 hrw, i did a few tests, but not on an idle system, will do that Mar 12 19:36:31 eFfeM: when I do builds on my quad I have 1.6-1.8GB/s. on idle I have 3.3-3.7GB/ Mar 12 19:36:31 s Mar 12 19:36:42 quite a difference Mar 12 19:36:55 hrw: http://shop.embedded-projects.net/product_info.php/info/p128_AVR32-AP7000-OEM-Modul--Embedded-GNU-Linux-.html Mar 12 19:37:15 For some reason I can't find it in the English shop... Mar 12 19:38:08 hrw: We should have some OE folks with NGW100 now - or who has all the boards? Mar 12 19:38:17 florian: it require daughterboard.. Mar 12 19:38:17 florian, nice board Mar 12 19:38:31 florian: I do not remember. Mar 12 19:38:39 florian: we got 3 boards on fosdem Mar 12 19:39:00 hrw: yes... but the design should be quite simple. Mar 12 19:39:18 florian: http://shop.embedded-projects.net/product_info.php/info/p68_Grasshopper-AVR32--AP7000--Board--with-CD-and-cable-.html is complete system Mar 12 19:40:47 hrw: yep... Nils has one of these. That's quite comparable with the NGW but a little bit smaller iirc Mar 12 19:41:58 <_diego_> ngw is nice, but no usb host port ^^ Mar 12 19:42:52 _diego_: so? Mar 12 19:43:09 _diego_: at91sam9263ek has 2 usb host ports and I do not use any of them Mar 12 19:43:35 _diego_: BUG has one usbhost port which I also do not use ;D Mar 12 19:44:08 <_diego_> uhm, i don't know why, but i find always something to attach to the usb ^^ Mar 12 19:44:55 hrw, killed verything I could, only init, a getty and a sh running and several processes between [ ] that I cannot kill, tried 5 times, average 121 MB/s Mar 12 19:45:57 <_diego_> eFfeM i'm quite shure that's you don't have other process to slowdown it ^^ Mar 12 19:46:10 <_diego_> *sure Mar 12 19:47:19 eFfeM: I got those results from florian. I do not have beagleboard Mar 12 19:48:46 sooner or later I will have to grab one of those omap3 boards... Mar 12 19:49:02 hrw there are some background things like init, init takes a littke time, also some other things I don't know how to get rid off (btaddconn, khubd, ...) but don't know how to get rid of these Mar 12 19:49:04 beagleboard/overo/touchbook/pandora or that other-beagleboard Mar 12 19:51:20 <_diego_> eFfeM, you can't if they are kernel processes Mar 12 19:52:08 guess so, but then i guess florian cannot do so either, so wondering why he gets 151. florian, care to comment? Mar 12 19:52:52 hrw, i have less confidence in the support of that chinese beagle clone (miniboard), i dropped them a few mails but don't really get good answers Mar 12 19:53:59 eFfeM: I don't even remember the exact scenario... but I would remember if I had to spend much of time in it ;) Mar 12 19:54:24 <_diego_> maybe the clock is slight different, or memory timings more conservative Mar 12 19:55:35 florian: are you running at 600 mhz or 500 ? Mar 12 19:55:47 Quick question, is anyone using gnome-volume-manager with OE based distros? Mar 12 19:56:22 DJWillis: first heard of it Mar 12 19:56:45 491.57 bogomips Mar 12 19:56:51 <_diego_> good lord no :D Mar 12 19:57:31 I wonder will TouchBook vendor will have some price reduction for OE devs Mar 12 19:57:32 eFfeM: 500 I guess... Mar 12 19:58:47 odd, rebooted, still at 121 MB/s Mar 12 19:58:52 .28 kernel Mar 12 19:59:36 <_diego_> it's odd, when you reboot and something change ^^ Mar 12 20:01:09 hrw: I must confess I could not find a recipe for gnome-volume-manager but did find some hints to it's use in OE in the interweb ;-). Looking for a decent automount solution under Matchbox or consoles (ideally one that plays the same under both). Mar 12 20:01:40 DJWillis: automount? you can do it with udev script Mar 12 20:02:09 hrw: I did get a mail from the bloke behind the TouchBook, money off for OE devs would be cool. Mar 12 20:03:16 _diego_: if the system is up for a long time, it could be that there were some resources that were lost or claimed or whatever, did a lot of experiments earlier today Mar 12 20:03:16 hrw: yep, I was looking for stuff above and beyond that to manage stuff like creating icons (tied up to udev). Mar 12 20:03:54 DJWillis: what you use for desktop now? Mar 12 20:04:01 hrw, no change w/ the patch Mar 12 20:04:06 <_diego_> eFfeM, right it can happen, but usually means that something was wrong Mar 12 20:04:12 even after manually building since rootfs_rpm.bbclass didn't depend on it Mar 12 20:04:12 true Mar 12 20:04:27 * Tartarus does a -c populate_staging to be sure Mar 12 20:04:31 yeah, it was staged Mar 12 20:04:32 <_diego_> so if nothing change, means that everything is ok :D Mar 12 20:04:38 Tartarus: ;( Mar 12 20:04:58 Tartarus: hard to debug as it does not happen on my system Mar 12 20:05:03 DJWillis: i've also used ivman and pmount in the past; they can also automount cd's etc (something I never managed to do with udev, but perhaps that tells more about me than about udev) Mar 12 20:05:39 hrw, If you deboostrap an ubuntu system with just ubuntu-minimal/ubuntu-standard, and whatever sanity.bbclass catches, you can reproduce Mar 12 20:05:42 DJWillis: a touchbook discount for oe devs would be nice; actually free shipping would already be nice Mar 12 20:06:05 <_diego_> DJWillis, angstrom already do automount Mar 12 20:06:16 eFfeM: I prefer reduction of price + paid shipping. Mar 12 20:06:19 * eFfeM still needs to find an argument to convince the Mrs that we need a touchbook Mar 12 20:06:20 <_diego_> out of the box Mar 12 20:06:27 or no... Mar 12 20:06:30 hrw, depends on shipping cost Mar 12 20:06:38 <_diego_> (till now, me touching wood) Mar 12 20:06:44 free is better (as in free beer, not in free speech :-) ) Mar 12 20:06:53 hrw: well we manage a few images (E17 and the Matchbox one are the usual images, matchbox will be the default if I can clean up some of the edges ;-)). Mar 12 20:06:56 I would buy it for my company so 22% VAT will be back from gov so... Mar 12 20:07:17 DJWillis: mb1 or mb2? Mar 12 20:07:48 hrw, nice, actually if they properly pacakge and ship it it might slip through thru customs and no payment needed Mar 12 20:07:50 _diego_: as it stands it does not really work that well on the GPE based images, under E17 the process is nice and slick. Mar 12 20:08:15 hrw: 1 for now, 2 just did not work out to well so far ;-) unless you know better :D. Mar 12 20:08:21 <_diego_> DJWillis: some udev scripts? Mar 12 20:08:44 eFfeM: in Poland I have to pay VAT. then I get that VAT back as I am company. Mar 12 20:09:20 DJWillis: mb-desktop2 and mb-panel2 are what I prefer over mb1 versions Mar 12 20:10:26 hrw: what are you using them on? (not had a massive amount of luck when messing with them on vairous OMAP3 platforms and put it down to maturaty). Mar 12 20:10:41 eFfeM: I'm sure the last time I tried I did not use .28 Mar 12 20:12:10 DJWillis: I used them on zaurus (pxa255) Mar 12 20:12:31 DJWillis: Oh if you need help with GPE I guess you can ask me :) Mar 12 20:12:32 hrw: And it was solid? Mar 12 20:12:38 DJWillis: rock-solid Mar 12 20:12:54 DJWillis: OH guys were fixing any bug which we found Mar 12 20:13:16 florian: ;-), I guess I could, I really hate to just shout 'stuck' if I can help it as I know how much of a time sync support can be. Mar 12 20:13:48 florian: so what would be the 'best' GPE/Matchbox setup based on current OE? Mar 12 20:14:03 Hrm... looks like haave to carry the big lab power supply to the livingroom in order to use the ngw 100 and watch tv Mar 12 20:14:03 florian: then maybe kernel is an issue Mar 12 20:15:17 DJWillis: now I lack device which will be good playground to test those things (my zaurus is nearly dead) Mar 12 20:16:41 hrw: ;-) Mar 12 20:18:11 DJWillis: depends on what you expect. in fact i believe its time to spend some time in bringing things in oe into a better shape. Mar 12 20:18:45 DJWillis: x11-gpe-image is not too bad but a little bit boring maybe e.g. Mar 12 20:19:10 florian: well I am happy to get behind that. Mar 12 20:20:06 <_diego_> Anybody know where I can find librpcsvc.a, it should be in glibc but can't find in OE Mar 12 20:21:15 * Jay7 trying to move fvwm to mobile devices Mar 12 20:21:23 at least randr support Mar 12 20:21:29 Tartarus: base-image for at91sam9263ek built here Mar 12 20:22:02 how about minimal-image? Mar 12 20:22:07 And is it in the env I described? Mar 12 20:22:27 Tartarus: no - I will install ubuntu tomorrow in vbox Mar 12 20:23:02 Tartarus: can you send me 'dpkg -l' from such system? Mar 12 20:23:09 Yeah Mar 12 20:23:15 but it's really just those 3 meta packages Mar 12 20:23:21 everything is marked as autoinstall Mar 12 20:23:39 And do you want dpkg -l or a package list to set to? Mar 12 20:24:03 Tartarus: both? Mar 12 20:24:28 k Mar 12 20:25:16 * kergoth is starting to think tasks should be handed their own .createCopy() of the metadata, so they can't poke bits into the metadata... side effects are bad. would be nice to let python tasks 'return' values, and let other tasks get to them in some way, rather than using the metadata store for inter-task communication Mar 12 20:25:20 Tartarus: ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10? Mar 12 20:25:32 DJWillis: I need a little bit of free time... Mar 12 20:25:36 * kergoth shrugs Mar 12 20:26:09 inc Mar 12 20:26:11 8.10 Mar 12 20:26:12 er Mar 12 20:26:13 7.10 Mar 12 20:26:19 * kergoth ponders Mar 12 20:26:23 7.10? Mar 12 20:26:49 yeah, 7.10 Gutsy Mar 12 20:26:58 still supported :) Mar 12 20:27:38 Tartarus: but where from I can fetch it.. Mar 12 20:27:53 kergoth: make a lot of senses Mar 12 20:27:58 http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ - uf.. Mar 12 20:28:47 yeah, looks right Mar 12 20:29:01 I bet an equally minimal 8.04 and 8.10 will do it too Mar 12 20:29:05 lets see :) Mar 12 20:29:06 chouimat|work: toying around with creating a signature / hash of the metadata (minus certain ones) to store in the pstage filenames, so more than just PN/PV/PR changes trigger a rebuild.. but its hard to generate a sig when the metadata changes based on which tasks you're trying to build this time around.. Mar 12 20:29:08 * hrw -> off Mar 12 20:29:08 * kergoth grumbles Mar 12 20:29:28 so true Mar 12 20:30:34 florian: I am just having a look at the state of matchbox 2 when baked into our images. Mar 12 20:33:23 DJWillis: that's a good idea. same applies for other o-hand stuff. maybe some pieces need to be configured, adapted or whatever but it should be possible to do much better than we do now. Mar 12 20:33:54 I guess I should search for a useful device and find a timeslot... Mar 12 20:34:38 The Universal... support should be quite useful by now. Mar 12 20:34:59 florian: well I will start by seeing what the state of the ohand cast overs are and take it from there but I am very happy to get stuck into this. Mar 12 20:36:41 DJWillis: Let me know about the results and if I can do somethign useful. I'll try to make it fit in the schedule somehow then. Mar 12 20:38:17 florian: well take one borked on the build ;). This should be a fun way to waste an hour ;-). Mar 12 20:40:07 florian: do you know roughly when the last sync back from ohand was for the matchbox stuff? Mar 12 20:41:50 DJWillis: Quite some time ago I assume... let me see Mar 12 20:42:24 florian: good enough for me, i'll look into a sync and pop some patches up if I get time. Mar 12 20:44:26 DJWillis: If my interpretation of the commts is right this was more than a year ago Mar 12 20:47:14 florian: that was my guess, looking at Poky it seems the have done some tinkering since ;-). Mar 12 20:49:28 DJWillis: yes this might contain some useful bits :) Mar 12 20:50:14 florian: just pulling over (I knew keeping a current checkout of Poky would come in handy at some point ;-)) Mar 12 20:50:41 03Stefan Schmidt  07org.openembedded.dev * r0bd2004ded 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: Update to version that are available Mar 12 21:17:53 meh Mar 13 02:31:11 Hi anybody can help me some reference for u-boot splash? Mar 13 02:40:46 leslie: what do you want to know Mar 13 02:41:09 check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Splash_screen **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 13 02:59:57 2009