**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 13 02:59:57 2009 Mar 13 03:11:29 kraj: thanks! Mar 13 08:52:27 hi mckoan Mar 13 08:53:11 hi gremlin[it] Mar 13 09:43:13 hi all... I have a problem while creating the minimal-image for smdk2440. bitbake stops with the following error: 2009-03-13 10:41:52 (411 KB/s) - `/opt/oe/sources/linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2' saved [45488158/45488158] Mar 13 09:43:13 NOTE: The MD5Sums did not match. Wanted: '2cc2fd4d521dc5d7cfce0d8a9d1b3472' and Got: 'f4a4b82c1acc5dec9ba08a33761f1fd0' Mar 13 09:43:13 NOTE: Task failed: Checksum of 'http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.23.tar.bz2' failed Mar 13 09:49:04 ltenze: that suggests that the download you got did not match what was expected. That is by design ;-) Mar 13 09:51:59 Yes it is clear the reason of the error, but why the MD5 is wrong? Mar 13 09:53:31 mayby your download corrupted ore something, so delete the file and let bitbake try to download it again Mar 13 09:54:06 when I md5sum the same file here, I got 2cc2fd4d521dc5d7cfce0d8a9d1b3472 as hash Mar 13 09:54:55 therefore I delete the file in source and re-run bitbake? Mar 13 09:55:24 is it right? Mar 13 09:55:39 yes :) that's all Mar 13 09:56:16 thanks a lot! Now I test it! Mar 13 10:27:49 hello Mar 13 10:27:56 i also have a hash problem Mar 13 10:28:06 but i cannot understand which file i should delete :s Mar 13 10:29:48 NOTE: Task failed: Checksum of 'http://busybox.net/downloads/fixes-1.13.2/busybox-1.13.2-modprobe.patch' failed Mar 13 10:30:31 ERROR: Build of /home/putukas/oe/stuff/openembedded/packages/busybox/busybox_1.13.2.bb do_fetch failed Mar 13 10:31:18 putumutukas: well, what do you think happened? Mar 13 10:31:52 bitbake tried to build busybox Mar 13 10:32:36 and some files in my computer and the expected files are different ? Mar 13 10:41:24 ~seen kgilmer Mar 13 10:41:26 kgilmer was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 17h 25m 49s ago, saying: 'yes but i'll try again and document exactly where it breaks. i'll email you with the results.'. Mar 13 10:41:58 got it now, thanx Mar 13 10:46:57 putumutukas, how did you fix it? Mar 13 10:47:17 zecke, I heard some good things about some wireless networking guys from your school Mar 13 10:48:13 Crofton|work: wow, the sensor node group? Mar 13 10:48:38 Crofton|work: we have more nodes than berkeley... and the dean of this group knows how to get money :} Mar 13 10:49:38 the guys that entered the maniac challenge Mar 13 10:49:43 maybe he smae people Mar 13 10:49:59 do you have a link to the sensor node group? Mar 13 10:52:50 ## Booting kernel from Legacy Image at 22200000 ... Image Name: KaeilOS/2.6.28/at91sam9g20ek Mar 13 10:52:56 Crofton|work: http://cst.mi.fu-berlin.de/ Mar 13 10:53:05 Machine: Atmel AT91SAM9G20-EK Mar 13 10:53:39 * mckoan is preparing an OE patch for Atmel AT91SAM9G20-EK Mar 13 10:54:30 zecke, I was talking to one of the professors in charge of the maniac challenge yesterday Mar 13 10:54:41 see box on right of page Mar 13 10:55:06 you can actullay build the maniac api in OE and it runs on the gumstic overo, if you havea wifi version Mar 13 10:56:36 Crofton|work: oh cool, who was the professor? Guenes? Schiller? Mar 13 10:57:04 Mackenzie at Virginia Tech Mar 13 10:57:24 he said the berlin guys did a really good job Mar 13 12:28:04 morning Mar 13 12:28:37 <_boto> did someone manage to build gnash 0.8.5? Mar 13 12:28:44 <_boto> i have trouble to build it Mar 13 12:31:37 <_boto> during config i get an error complaining about missing config.guess and config.sub Mar 13 13:42:46 re Mar 13 13:42:51 mckoan: is the bus shared for NOR flash and SDRAM on that part/board? Mar 13 13:43:30 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r5422d5ba54 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/dm355-leopard.conf: dm355-leopard: add board file for the dm355 leopard board Mar 13 13:43:38 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rca12f35c06 10openembedded.git/packages/u-boot/ (u-boot-1.2.0/dm355-leopard.diff u-boot_1.2.0.bb): u-boot 1.2.0: add support for dm355-leopard Mar 13 13:44:39 likewise: I'm using nand mode Mar 13 13:45:01 mckoan: ok. Mar 13 13:45:28 likewise: there is no NOR on sam9g20 Mar 13 13:49:34 mckoan: ah yes I have the PDF now. I'm looking for something simple that exposes it's memory bus on a header to connect a FPGA. This board has a 16-bit bus that might just work for me. Mar 13 14:03:16 likewise: when do you need it? I may have new products based on sam9g20 by end of April Mar 13 14:20:18 mickey|zzZZzz: ping Mar 13 14:21:55 aloisiojr: he is on vacations Mar 13 14:21:57 re Mar 13 14:22:43 hrw: ow... tks :) Mar 13 14:22:51 Crofton|work: htop it was Mar 13 14:24:19 heh.. where from Koen gets all those toys ;D Mar 13 14:29:32 thanks Mar 13 14:29:38 I forgot :) Mar 13 14:31:58 03Mike Westerhof  07org.openembedded.dev * r8745858efa 10openembedded.git/packages/thttpd/thttpd_2.25b.bb: thttpd: disable PARALLEL_MAKE due to build failures Mar 13 14:32:09 hi Mar 13 14:34:36 hm .. does the git repo include the full mtn history? Mar 13 14:35:16 im trying to compile db1.85 on a linux machine, i get the error: ../../hash/hash.h:106: error: field ‘__errno_location’ declared as a function Mar 13 14:35:25 gilligan-: yes and full bk history Mar 13 14:36:34 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * re49b459065 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: merge checksums from mamona Mar 13 14:37:17 hrw: assuming I have some mtn revision .. how do I locate that in the git history ? ie. how are revisions mapped from mtn->git ? Mar 13 14:37:26 none at all Mar 13 14:38:37 comit 12345 in mtn == commit 12345 in git ? Mar 13 14:38:49 no Mar 13 14:38:55 there is no mapping Mar 13 14:39:57 zezo: check hash.h if it has __errno_location declared if it it there then remove it and instead include errno.h Mar 13 14:40:00 is there some semi-sane way for me to locate a mtn revision that I have here in the git history ? Mar 13 14:40:33 gilligan-: not without having also mtn tree Mar 13 14:40:48 gilligan-: If you have log message then you can search through git log Mar 13 14:41:16 khem: ah, right .. Mar 13 14:42:18 waiting for regenerate_chaces to finish for now... which takes forever ... Mar 13 14:42:41 then i'll just check out and see what the last log was Mar 13 14:46:22 khem: errno is declared part of a structure Mar 13 14:46:44 and that is used elsewhere Mar 13 15:01:09 zezo: why it is not using libc definition of it Mar 13 15:03:01 khem: db1.85 is maintaining 2 errorno. one within a structure and one the global one. he is using both of them. something wired. probably he wants to use a private errorno Mar 13 15:03:19 i was able to compile it by changing the variable name and references to it Mar 13 15:07:59 ~curse ubuntu default installation Mar 13 15:08:01 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, ubuntu default installation ! Mar 13 15:09:31 how do i print the symbol table in a static library. i tried using nm it does not work Mar 13 15:13:42 <_diego_> nm it's the standard way Mar 13 15:15:19 $ nm libdb.a $ Mar 13 15:15:49 anybody with h5500 ? Mar 13 15:15:59 for somereason i have a 8 byte libdb.a Mar 13 15:16:17 8 bytes probably isnt big enough to hold a symbol :-) Mar 13 15:17:19 yes, i guess it is not archiving properly Mar 13 15:17:22 lorder: command not found Mar 13 15:17:36 anybody with h5500 ? Mar 13 15:18:43 yes Mar 13 15:19:35 stripping default ubuntu to minimal is fun... Mar 13 15:20:31 what is lorder? why is it needed to archive the object files/ Mar 13 15:20:34 florian how to boot a kernel on h5500 ? Mar 13 15:21:34 florian i tried the .exe provided in the angstrom download ... i putted it on a mmc card, i launched it, my ipaq early booted it ... but everything is stopped with a "jumping to kernel" message Mar 13 15:22:21 * florian looks at Kevin2 Mar 13 15:22:30 florian, does the "bootldr" work with h5500 ? Mar 13 15:22:50 flameman: yes... apart from the lacking support for the display Mar 13 15:22:52 should i reflash my h5500 ? i mean replacing the bootloader slice Mar 13 15:23:09 * florian did so years ago Mar 13 15:23:15 florian ... i wonder about the .exe Mar 13 15:23:38 ok, so i have to reflash my new ipaq Mar 13 15:24:21 just to report all the truth about this .exe Mar 13 15:24:24 it says: Mar 13 15:25:20 Haret boot, Shutting down hardware, turning off MMU, in preloader, tags rec, initrd rec, psr=6000000df, Jumping to kernel Mar 13 15:25:29 then loops 4 ever Mar 13 15:25:47 (i has been been lopping for 10 minutes) Mar 13 15:30:55 florian, isn't there an other way to boot a kernel ? i mean without reflashing the bootloader ? Mar 13 15:31:38 flameman: there are quite a lot of haret binaries... do you know which release you have? Mar 13 15:33:17 i downloaded the one angstrom provides in his -distro-download-h5000 Mar 13 15:33:44 i am surprised about what it is happening Mar 13 15:33:49 Tartarus: I started 'base-image' under 7.10 with your packages list installed Mar 13 15:34:11 Tartarus: maybe have some packages more on it - have to check Mar 13 15:34:46 florian .. also the hh has hared 2004 released Mar 13 15:34:56 florian ... where to find out modern one ? Mar 13 15:35:24 ok Mar 13 15:35:29 See that 8.10 had the same thing? Mar 13 15:35:47 saw mail Mar 13 15:36:50 flameman: http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/ Mar 13 15:38:28 florian: thank you, it seems the hh pages need a fresh update :P Mar 13 15:39:40 flameman: hh.o is dead imho... even a major share of the wiki is locked so that noone is able to edit it. Mar 13 15:40:05 florian no problem i will update my ewiki Mar 13 15:40:21 florian but i need precise information Mar 13 15:40:37 flameman: if you want to find out why read about hh.o and trademarks. iirc there was a long article at linux.com Mar 13 15:40:49 my blog might be biased a little bit :) Mar 13 15:41:05 this one, i mean http://www.elinux.org/Flameman/ipaq Mar 13 15:41:20 ah, ok Mar 13 15:41:36 yep.. hh.org and trademarks.. Mar 13 15:41:48 I ended my opie development due to that Mar 13 15:43:30 i am stopped about my gentoo stage5 cause of the h3600 kernel issue around the sleeve 2xpcmcia Mar 13 15:43:41 i am switching to h5500 Mar 13 15:43:52 (that i pickup right now) Mar 13 15:44:03 also i am buying a zaurus Mar 13 15:48:02 * DJWillis tries to avoid the dark nasty area that is hh.o ;-) Mar 13 15:48:07 well it seems that the 0.5.2 is pretty working for h5500, very good Mar 13 15:48:12 Crofton|work: ping Mar 13 15:48:21 pong Mar 13 15:48:46 florian: got a load of matchbox 2 desktop and panel recipies moved over from Poky and building, going to see if they work on hardware tonight. Mar 13 15:48:48 * flameman tries to avout the dark nasty area of hh.o, too :P Mar 13 15:48:56 Crofton|work: I'm trying to modify the libgles-omap3 recipe to package up the demos Mar 13 15:48:58 zezo: while I dont know db code using two errno could be because of older limit on errno being global with nptl its per thread variable you should check the code and make a patch to get rid of this second use Mar 13 15:49:06 busybox build is failing in beageboard-demo-image Mar 13 15:49:20 Crofton|work: I'm running into som errors in the QA phase Mar 13 15:49:20 sakoman_, I need to run out to lunch Mar 13 15:49:28 Oh, OK later Mar 13 15:49:35 * florian should offer a bounty for someone who makes the old GPE website and wiki at hh.o go away. Mar 13 15:49:36 I'd pastebin and see if anyone sees the problem Mar 13 15:49:46 sakoman_: what's up? I may have that somewhere (I thought TI/ImgTec did not want the demos packaged but I could be wrong). Mar 13 15:49:52 Khem: i made a few changes, it works, thanks Mar 13 15:50:08 Is there any documentation on what QA errors end up being fatal? Mar 13 15:50:18 DJWillis: ok great - if it is useful we should make sure to get it into oe too Mar 13 15:50:23 floarian ... bootblaster 1.19 is not working at all, do you remember which version you used on h5*** ? Mar 13 15:50:32 No GNU_HASH in the elf binary seems to be OK Mar 13 15:50:55 after lunhc, I need to look at busybiox also Mar 13 15:51:01 But 'non debug package contains .debug directory' seems to be fatal Mar 13 15:51:11 sakoman_: I got that error on a package recently too Mar 13 15:51:11 florian: well if it works I will push as an RFC to oe-dev like I have been doing with other stuff. I don't really want stuff like that living in the Pandora overlay anyway as that is evil(tm) ;-) Mar 13 15:51:21 anyway to disable the QA check while I deal with other issues? Mar 13 15:52:21 DJWillis: It is for internal use for demo images Mar 13 15:52:22 the error came with the recipe not using the host LDFLAGS over the CC ones Mar 13 15:52:33 hey mr DJWillis Mar 13 15:52:59 DJWillis: ok :-) Mar 13 15:53:10 zezo: lorder is used to find obj deps Mar 13 15:53:28 Hi XorA, did you get a board? Mar 13 15:53:36 zezo: if you are using ubuntu install bsdmainutils Mar 13 15:53:38 DJWillis: no, when did you send it? Mar 13 15:53:49 sakoman_: ahhh, that is just what I was doing but I ended up just TAR'ing the sucker ;-) Mar 13 15:54:10 khem: thanks Mar 13 15:54:21 XorA: I did not send you one of mine :( as both have some issues but I asked for you to get a board direct. I'll chase. Mar 13 15:54:38 DJWillis: I am unemployed at the moment :-) Mar 13 15:54:40 scruggs: how did you fix that issue? Mar 13 15:55:15 XorA: want to join a project that has no money and lots of unpaid devs ;-) or does that sounds like an old job ;-) Mar 13 15:56:00 sakoman_: I ended up patching the sources to use the correct LDFLAGS Mar 13 15:56:02 DJWillis: Id like to use my spare time to make my new toy as cool as possible :-) Mar 13 15:56:16 I saw where it was doing the check in insane.bbclass Mar 13 15:56:27 should be pretty easy to comment out to bypass Mar 13 16:03:51 Tartarus: finally started build Mar 13 16:04:20 Tartarus: had to drop all packages not on your list. now system has just 18 packages more then your system and none of them affects development Mar 13 16:13:25 should the IMAGE_FSTYPES be a weak assignment in the distro/minimal.conf? Mar 13 16:14:11 hrw, yeah, I have a very minimal setup :) Mar 13 16:14:15 should Mar 13 16:14:35 they're all "=" instead of ?= Mar 13 16:14:43 (except one that is a "+=" Mar 13 16:14:45 ) Mar 13 16:15:00 floarian ... bootblaster 1.19 is not working at all, do you remember which version you used on h5*** ? Mar 13 16:16:36 i can't find any bootblaster for h5000, googling i found h3900-2.6 Mar 13 16:16:45 flameman: not that was ~4 to 5 years ago Mar 13 16:16:54 anybody can confirm it will work with h5000 ? Mar 13 16:16:57 normally it is expected to be set in the local.conf by a user Mar 13 16:19:37 03Denys Dmytriyenko  07org.openembedded.dev * r8633d77524 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/minimal.conf: minimal.conf: make IMAGE_FSTYPES a weak assignment to allow overwriting Mar 13 16:21:12 :( Mar 13 16:21:31 bootblaster from h3900 seems to loops 4 ever, too Mar 13 16:22:22 is any ipaq older then h2210 or hx4700 maintained at all? Mar 13 16:23:00 h3600 is not Mar 13 16:23:21 anyway we miss good doc about Mar 13 16:23:58 for example now i don't know hot to bootblaster my h5500, and if it is working or not, which version and such a stuff Mar 13 16:33:28 madwifi is dead project? Mar 13 16:34:28 XorA: ath5k and ath9k are in kernel now Mar 13 16:34:57 so I can make linux recipe provide madwifi-ng Mar 13 16:35:32 or better remove madwifi-ng from depends? Mar 13 16:36:15 * XorA has no idea why that is special cased by wpa-supplicant Mar 13 16:36:46 probably wpa-supl wanted some headers Mar 13 16:37:44 03Chris Larson  07org.openembedded.dev * r5ee794ae6c 10openembedded.git/conf/enterprise.conf: enterprise.conf: combine with user-specified BBMASK instead of overwriting it Mar 13 16:43:38 florian ... could you send me your kernel ? the one provided on the angstrom is not working with my h5500 Mar 13 16:43:50 it simply loops 4 ever Mar 13 16:44:10 i will compile myself, but now i'd like to tryout anything working Mar 13 16:44:35 flameman: oh dear... I guess I use the one from an ancient familiar release. Mar 13 16:45:00 could please check it ? Mar 13 16:45:25 also .. as i told you ... familiar is reporting support for h3900, no h5000 Mar 13 16:45:35 it says "h5000 ~ h3900" Mar 13 16:45:46 but i don not trust it Mar 13 16:49:21 anybody else ? Mar 13 16:50:01 03Stefan Schmidt  07org.openembedded.dev * r1704bef15d 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Add sums for connman packages. (Changed location) Mar 13 16:50:02 03Stefan Schmidt  07org.openembedded.dev * ra1c86eeaca 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 13 16:50:02 03Stefan Schmidt  07org.openembedded.dev * r82e5731e86 10openembedded.git/packages/connman/ (5 files): connman: Moved from moblin.org to kernel.org Mar 13 16:50:03 03Stefan Schmidt  07org.openembedded.dev * r84eecfff21 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: Update more versions to available ones Mar 13 16:50:06 03Stefan Schmidt  07org.openembedded.dev * rd704e9b027 10openembedded.git/packages/connman/connman_0.12.bb: connman: Add latest release Mar 13 17:19:34 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r15fe207f42 10openembedded.git/packages/zope/zope_3.3.1.bb: zope: added __init__.py* files to python-zopeinterface, otherwie the package does not work! Mar 13 17:19:34 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * rcab70860b8 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/proftpd/proftpd_1.3.2.bb): proftpd: yet another ftp daemon; created recipe Mar 13 17:19:35 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r3e60916fa5 10openembedded.git/packages/python/python-coherence_0.6.2.bb: python-coherence: updated DEPENDS (removed unneeded zope, added a few missing ones) Mar 13 17:19:38 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r9bf2becd7b 10openembedded.git/ (5 files in 3 dirs): wt3: created: wt 3.* (including 2.99); retain package wt (which is for 2.*) as 2.* and 3.* are not compatible Mar 13 17:19:42 03Koen Kooi  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * rd436f4f6a5 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 13 17:19:45 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * refb0de8713 10openembedded.git/contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh: angstrom/build-feeds.sh: added proftpd and wt3 to the feed Mar 13 17:19:50 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * rffe697599f 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 13 17:19:55 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r706987bb34 10openembedded.git/packages/python/python-coherence_0.6.0.bb: python-coherence_0.6.0.bb: removed (should have been moved to 0.6.2 but a new 0.6.2 was made, so dropping this one now) Mar 13 17:19:59 03John Lee  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r9f26d3e3f1 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs: update fso-abyss, libgsm0710 and libgsm0710mux rev. Mar 13 17:20:02 03Koen Kooi  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r67037d2f8c 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/gstreamer-ti_svn.bb: gstreamer-ti: bump PR Mar 13 17:20:05 03Koen Kooi  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r3b9da5b334 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums: add ti codeccs Mar 13 17:20:10 03Koen Kooi  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * rbc88b08d98 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 13 17:20:17 03Robert Schuster  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r9fa9bd2cb9 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/llvm/llvm-native_2.5.bb): Mar 13 17:20:20 llvm-native 2.5: New recipe. Mar 13 17:20:22 checksums.ini: Added llvm 2.5 entry. Mar 13 17:20:24 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r4f102692b1 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 13 17:20:27 03Robert Schuster  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r994c99d511 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Added cmake 2.6.3 entry. Mar 13 17:20:30 03Robert Schuster  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * rb9fece3136 10openembedded.git/packages/cmake/cmake-native_2.6.3.bb: cmake-native 2.6.3: New recipe. Mar 13 17:20:35 03Koen Kooi  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * rf3ddf3a7f4 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: add more checksums Mar 13 17:20:42 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r337be70ba5 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 13 17:20:45 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r005826c1b8 10openembedded.git/packages/proftpd/proftpd_1.3.2.bb: proftpd: previous recipe was no good; fixed it; this one is without pam and might require some more chown's Mar 13 17:20:51 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r5ad2cf5ec3 10openembedded.git/packages/proftpd/files/make.patch: proftpd: added missing make.patch Mar 13 17:20:54 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r37dbb4f357 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 13 17:21:01 03Jader H. Silva  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * rbf59c40c3e 10openembedded.git/classes/kernel.bbclass: (log message trimmed) Mar 13 17:21:04 Kernel bbclass "too many open files" bugfix Mar 13 17:21:06 tempfile.mkstemp() is used to create a temporary file. This function Mar 13 17:21:08 return a tuple with an OS file descriptor and a filename. Filename is Mar 13 17:21:10 stored in "tmpfile" but descriptor is not stored anywhere, but it is Mar 13 17:21:12 still open because it's only an integer to python so it is not closed at Mar 13 17:21:12 ~ugt Mar 13 17:21:13 from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Mar 13 17:21:16 the end of the function. Mar 13 17:21:18 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r971a08f557 10openembedded.git/packages/proftpd/proftpd_1.3.2.bb: proftpd: fixed paths Mar 13 17:21:21 03Stefan Schmidt  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r1704bef15d 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Add sums for connman packages. (Changed location) Mar 13 17:21:26 03Koen Kooi  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * re49b459065 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: merge checksums from mamona Mar 13 17:21:31 03Denys Dmytriyenko  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r8633d77524 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/minimal.conf: minimal.conf: make IMAGE_FSTYPES a weak assignment to allow overwriting Mar 13 17:21:34 03Stefan Schmidt  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r84eecfff21 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: Update more versions to available ones Mar 13 17:21:41 03Chris Larson  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r5ee794ae6c 10openembedded.git/conf/enterprise.conf: enterprise.conf: combine with user-specified BBMASK instead of overwriting it Mar 13 17:21:44 03Stefan Schmidt  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r0bd2004ded 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: Update to version that are available Mar 13 17:21:47 03Koen Kooi  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r5422d5ba54 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/dm355-leopard.conf: dm355-leopard: add board file for the dm355 leopard board Mar 13 17:21:52 03Mike Westerhof  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r8745858efa 10openembedded.git/packages/thttpd/thttpd_2.25b.bb: thttpd: disable PARALLEL_MAKE due to build failures Mar 13 17:21:55 03Graeme Gregory  07xora/angstrom-sqeeezy * r184d100458 10openembedded.git/packages/gcc/gcc-4.3.3.inc: gcc-4.3.3.inc : correct SRC_URI Mar 13 17:22:00 (20 lines omitted) Mar 13 17:51:57 * hrw -> off for some time Mar 13 18:15:04 Why is CIA-2 posting all that stuff? Mar 13 18:24:40 it is Friday, on Friday CIA goes driniking Mar 13 18:25:28 crofton - I just don't see the utility in all those lines. Maybe I'm too much of a newbie to get his context? Mar 13 18:26:31 CIA-2, is a bot Mar 13 18:26:39 Ah. Mar 13 18:26:41 he is posting commit messages Mar 13 18:26:46 :) Mar 13 18:26:58 what's the PURPOSE of the bot? is it a community resorce that is helpful? Mar 13 18:26:59 so we watch for commits that impact things we care about Mar 13 18:27:05 Got it. Mar 13 18:27:11 Thanks for explaining that. Mar 13 18:27:34 the xora/squeezy confuses me Mar 13 18:27:41 I think it is a branch Mar 13 18:27:41 crofton - I posted a followup in the list to "[oe] [RFC] renaming packages/ to recipes" Mar 13 18:27:52 Crofton|work: it is a branch Mar 13 18:28:03 That thread seems to have died down on the 5th. Mar 13 18:28:20 ah Mar 13 18:28:26 what are you squeezing Mar 13 18:28:40 robtow, people are at BOSSA or holiday Mar 13 18:28:55 It seems like a good idea, and I certainly don't want to re-invent an oblong wheel if others more experienced are digging into that area. Mar 13 18:29:09 What is BOSSA? Mar 13 18:29:21 Crofton|work: the EEE part is significant Mar 13 18:29:23 I think the consensus was to change it late March early April Mar 13 18:29:37 XorA, speaks in code Mar 13 18:29:42 I saw that April part, from koen. Mar 13 18:30:38 Crofton|work: Im playing with eee PC support Mar 13 18:30:43 ahh Mar 13 18:30:46 cool Mar 13 18:30:46 never mind I found the conference announcement Mar 13 18:30:55 http://www.bossaconference.indt.org/ Mar 13 18:31:00 right Mar 13 18:31:05 indt also uses OE Mar 13 18:33:00 crofton - does Tom Trin hang in here? Mar 13 18:33:07 Tom Rini Mar 13 18:33:34 yeah Mar 13 18:33:40 Tartarus, I think Mar 13 18:33:51 cool. I want to ask him about the RFC Mar 13 18:37:22 Yes, hi :) Mar 13 18:44:38 Hi Tartarus Mar 13 18:44:50 Ah the moving stuff around RFC. That's all Koen really. He said what he wanted, didn't know about SDKs tho and said he'd make a real RFC later Mar 13 18:44:57 I just had an idea for where SDK should go :) Mar 13 18:45:05 I was looking at the thread koen started. Mar 13 18:45:10 Yes, I saw that. Mar 13 18:45:25 He asked you to do a separate RFC. Did you? Mar 13 18:45:41 No, since it's his thing really Mar 13 18:45:50 I saw that that thread fell quiet on the 5th, it's been a little while Mar 13 18:46:49 I've been poking my nose into relocation issues and gotten snarled up in how pathnames are generated & interact. Mar 13 18:47:57 Tartarus: speaking of SDKs, do you mind if I change $TMP_DIR/deploy to $DEPLOY_DIR in meta-toolchain.bb? Mar 13 18:48:12 nope, thats fine Mar 13 18:49:30 * Curtman just discovered openembedded in the freenode chanel list. Looks like I won't be getting any house work done this weekend. :) Mar 13 18:51:43 03Denys Dmytriyenko  07org.openembedded.dev * rbff08d17df 10openembedded.git/packages/meta/meta-toolchain.bb: meta-toolchain: use DEPLOY_DIR instead of TMPDIR/deploy for consistency Mar 13 18:51:46 Curtman: welcome Mar 13 18:52:41 Thanks.. Looks like this project will really help me get started. Mar 13 18:52:58 Tartarus: what is the difference between SDK_PATH and prefix - they are the same from the meta-toolchain perspective... Mar 13 18:53:12 started on what? Mar 13 18:53:16 denix, nope Mar 13 18:53:26 denix, SDK_PREFIX is the toolchain's prefix Mar 13 18:53:49 SDK_PATH is where it's installed Mar 13 18:53:57 robtow, I bought an arm dev board and I'm just getting started in learning what I can do with it and how. Mar 13 18:54:04 if you guys want to start a RFC for the SDK stuff, that would be great Mar 13 18:54:04 ala BUILD_PREFIX, TARGET_PREFIX, etc Mar 13 18:55:16 anyone have any idea why the checksum is failing for busybox-1.13.2-modprobe.patch Mar 13 18:55:30 Crofton|work: been updated upstream Mar 13 18:55:57 have you looked at the update? Mar 13 18:56:39 they should really version their patches and not update on the spot... Mar 13 18:56:57 yeah Mar 13 18:57:35 Crofton: sqeeezy branch has a cherry pickable fix :-) Mar 13 18:57:52 ugh it changed again ! Mar 13 18:58:05 Tartarus: reading meta-toolchain.bb... sometimes it installs things in ${SDK_OUTPUT}/${SDK_PATH}/... and sometimes in ${SDK_OUTPUT}/${prefix}/... What gives? Mar 13 18:58:08 dorks Mar 13 18:58:31 I thought I pushed a fix Mar 13 18:58:32 khem, the patch Mar 13 18:58:40 denix, hard to explain :) Mar 13 18:59:36 denix sounds like caching is biting you, sometimes intermediate recipes gert invoked that mess with the pathname generation - just guessing - I'm trying to understand similar issues. Mar 13 19:00:02 Tartarus: also, sdk.bbclass has prefix = ${SDK_PATH} in it... Mar 13 19:00:41 robtow: that's in one recipe... Mar 13 19:01:26 khem, the data on the secong file in the patch is Feb 1 for me Mar 13 19:01:52 denix, yes, the SDK stuff could use some real work, along with minor cleanups :) Mar 13 19:02:37 http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=f6e1d7ac0ef65c3fbc88becf42312c619f008077 Mar 13 19:02:42 anyone has any opinion on the patch http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/21702 Mar 13 19:03:37 my brain isnt working well enough for regexp yet :-) Mar 13 19:03:56 heh Mar 13 19:04:05 this one is nasty Mar 13 19:04:32 it took me while to understand exactly what it was doing Mar 13 19:04:35 how do I cherry pick from eee branch Mar 13 19:04:50 git-cherry-pick EEAABBDDEEFFDDGGG Mar 13 19:04:59 then commit back? Mar 13 19:05:06 it should auto commit by default Mar 13 19:05:11 if it applies clean Mar 13 19:05:39 let me try Mar 13 19:06:40 could find the rev Mar 13 19:06:50 how can you push selective commits Mar 13 19:06:50 Crofton|work: diff between old patch and the new - http://pastebin.com/m63bca8a7 Mar 13 19:06:59 I bet I need to pull the branch Mar 13 19:07:46 Crofton|work: yeah that would help :-) Mar 13 19:08:10 khem: IMHO no way, you need to reset what you don't want to push Mar 13 19:08:28 how do I pull the branch? Mar 13 19:08:32 * Crofton|work is alzy Mar 13 19:08:42 a git-pull with no selector should pull everything Mar 13 19:08:53 Crofton|work: git checkout -b Mar 13 19:08:56 or git-remote update I think Mar 13 19:08:59 well, I do not see anything about eating babies in the change Mar 13 19:09:03 I do git pull Mar 13 19:09:11 I suspect the original clone missed it Mar 13 19:09:29 Crofton: new branches appear automatically here Mar 13 19:09:41 git-cherry-pick f6e1d7ac0ef65c3fbc88becf42312c619f008077 should work AFAIK Mar 13 19:10:09 * [new branch] xora/angstrom-sqeeezy -> origin/xora/angstrom-sqeeezy Mar 13 19:10:22 git-cherry-pick f6e1d7ac0ef65c3fbc88becf42312c619f008077 Mar 13 19:10:22 Finished one cherry-pick. Mar 13 19:10:22 Created commit 58a2215: checksums.ini : add new checksums and fix checksum for refreshed busybox Mar 13 19:10:22 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) Mar 13 19:10:24 i think I was in the wrong window .... Mar 13 19:10:44 testing Mar 13 19:10:52 Crofton|work: Ill let you finish to practice :-) Mar 13 19:10:54 I have OE on 3 machines Mar 13 19:10:57 thanks Mar 13 19:10:58 testing Mar 13 19:11:02 and ssh around Mar 13 19:11:20 I have one OE machine and one pr0n machine :-) Mar 13 19:11:44 I thought they banned pr0n in Britain Mar 13 19:11:52 I bet it's very handy to have a separate pr)n machine... :) Mar 13 19:14:02 re Mar 13 19:14:11 XorA: what is angstrom-sqeeezy branch? Mar 13 19:14:46 * denix just noticed triple-e in the name - clever... Mar 13 19:16:28 I have one machine for everything. my laptop does not count as I use it not so often Mar 13 19:16:35 03Graeme Gregory  07org.openembedded.dev * r6cbecaa19d 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: Mar 13 19:16:35 checksums.ini : add new checksums and fix checksum for refreshed busybox Mar 13 19:16:35 patch Mar 13 19:17:03 eee pc Mar 13 19:17:05 ah - btw.. no TouchBook discount for OE developers - they can not lower price under current elvel Mar 13 19:17:30 XorA: you should try Poky on your eee Mar 13 19:19:09 btw - someone here know when BB C2 will really be available? Mar 13 19:19:20 or should I go to #beagle? Mar 13 19:19:22 hrw how much for the touchbook? Mar 13 19:19:49 chouimat|work: 399$ for both, 299$ for just tablet part Mar 13 19:20:08 shipping allready? Mar 13 19:20:15 no Mar 13 19:20:20 preorders for May/June Mar 13 19:20:22 US only Mar 13 19:21:31 hrw: yeah, koen said you guys had worked on netbook stuff Mar 13 19:22:04 chouimat|work: https://www.alwaysinnovating.com/store/ Mar 13 19:22:23 XorA: I did not worked on netbook stuff Mar 13 19:22:38 bbl Mar 13 19:22:49 denix: can't order I'm in Canada Mar 13 19:23:25 is it OE based distro? on some of the videos you can see Angstrom logo... Mar 13 19:23:26 hrw, reproduce? Mar 13 19:24:30 Crofton|work: btw, congrats on your cherry-pick! :-P Mar 13 19:24:42 Tartarus: vbox is slow - gcc-cross is building Mar 13 19:24:48 denix: it is Angstrom based Mar 13 19:24:51 thanks Mar 13 19:25:04 hrw: but I have plans for some more bigtools work which I don't want to break OE with Mar 13 19:25:18 XorA: sane way Mar 13 19:25:45 hrw: is that their own interface? or something standard? Mar 13 19:26:30 denix: no idea Mar 13 19:26:52 * XorA is sick of ubuntu on netbooks Mar 13 19:28:20 * denix doesn't like ubuntu in general... Mar 13 19:29:46 ubuntu? thats 'lets break debian in nonsane way'? Mar 13 19:29:55 anyway it is time to find rum Mar 13 19:30:32 oh, Friday. people are already leaving to have some drinks... :) Mar 13 19:30:46 its 19:30 here, well late Mar 13 19:31:05 I have a photo of what rum does to XorA|rum Mar 13 19:31:07 XorA|rum: have a nice evening then! Mar 13 19:31:51 Crofton|work: not that much tonight, lrg will be there :-D Mar 13 19:32:32 ah, you will be done by 8 Mar 13 19:33:46 ok, have a nice weekend all Mar 13 19:34:27 hrw: you too Mar 13 19:35:18 hrw, know how vbox compares to vmware? Mar 13 19:35:35 I'm just starting to setup VMware for work, then I'm gonna try vbox to see whats faster Mar 13 19:35:36 hrw: gn Mar 13 19:36:07 Tartarus: never used vmware Mar 13 19:36:11 Tartarus: and what about Parallels? Mar 13 19:36:22 denix, doesn't support 64bit hosts Mar 13 19:36:52 ah... Mar 13 19:37:03 qemu ;) Mar 13 19:38:54 Tartarus: vmware should be a lot faster.. Mar 13 19:39:06 but can't say how bit is that 'lot' :) Mar 13 19:39:10 *big Mar 13 19:39:58 about 2x Mar 13 19:39:59 but vmware is blob.. Mar 13 19:40:00 Jay7, gonna try and benchmark a bit, but thats what I suspect will happen Mar 13 19:45:53 03Ulf Samuelsson  07ulf/linux * r172e785b40 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/at91sam9rlek.conf: Add support for AT91SAM9RL64 Mar 13 19:45:54 03Ulf Samuelsson  07ulf/linux * r846f96633e 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/at91cap9adk.conf: Add support for AT91CAP9 Mar 13 19:45:54 03Ulf Samuelsson  07ulf/linux * r3ce502afe5 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/at91sam9g20ek.conf: Add support for AT91SAM9G20 Mar 13 19:45:55 03Ulf Samuelsson  07ulf/linux * reb916307ff 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: Add checksums for new packages Mar 13 19:46:11 03Ulf Samuelsson  07ulf/linux * re2e9bd1198 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/ (5 files): Update sam9260/1/3 and ap7000 (stk100,ngw100) to use linux-2.6.28, u-boot-2009.01 and at91bootstrap-2.10 Mar 13 20:03:33 re Mar 13 20:26:02 hey all... small question... can SRC_URI be overridden with SRC_URI-pn_foo = "bar" ? Mar 13 20:28:37 khem: hello. woglinde mentioned you had an (ugly) hack to get uclibc/thumb stuff working. For ARM ixp4xx we disabled thumb, to prevent breakage. Mar 13 20:29:41 mrmoku: yes Mar 13 20:29:57 denix: great, thanks :-) Mar 13 20:30:36 btw, what's the pn_foo? Mar 13 20:31:00 pn will be libframeworkd-glib Mar 13 20:31:13 I want to set a different branch for SHR Mar 13 20:31:25 without having to patch OE Mar 13 20:31:25 denix: did you know may be who own www.openembedded.ru site? Mar 13 20:31:44 I may be mistaken, as I thought about SRC_URI_blah = "...", where blah is in OVERRIDES Mar 13 20:33:28 likewise: yes I do Mar 13 20:33:39 mrmoku: as denix says, its SRC_URI_blah = .. so its SRC_URI_pn-foo, not SRC_URI-pn_foo Mar 13 20:34:18 Jay7: not sure - none of the posts there are signed... Mar 13 20:34:33 kergoth: ahh, ok... and that would be the way to change the branch of a git repo without touching the bb? Mar 13 20:34:38 denix: yeah.. seems someone relative new.. Mar 13 20:34:47 may be fpga Mar 13 20:35:02 site have new logo Mar 13 20:35:12 likewise: I have to test it Mar 13 20:35:34 Jay7: and 5 posts... Mar 13 20:35:58 khem: ok, if you want me to help, let me know, we are building some ixp4xx/uclibc/angstrom images Mar 13 20:36:11 ah ok Mar 13 20:36:25 uclibc in thumb mode will be adventure Mar 13 20:36:29 been there done that Mar 13 20:42:48 question, what's the current commit message standard for modification of multiple classes? Mar 13 20:44:29 list the classes on thhe first line? Mar 13 20:44:37 It does not happen often Mar 13 20:45:04 itd be a long first line, which would push the git summary message beyond the usual terminal width expectations Mar 13 20:45:07 heh Mar 13 20:45:22 maybe just put the description, say screw the prefix Mar 13 20:47:02 :) Mar 13 20:47:16 anything but "fix stuff" Mar 13 20:47:26 enough that people know what files changed Mar 13 20:48:14 i added a convenience function to base for figuring a relative path from one location to another, then made some of the bb.note's use it to show the user paths relative to ${TOPDIR} rather than the long ass full paths Mar 13 20:48:24 so at least base, patch, and packaged-staging were modified Mar 13 20:48:36 anybody here with h5500 ? Mar 13 20:49:18 khem: I currently have little time for adventure :-) Maybe forcing the arm instruction set is my best bet then. Mar 13 20:50:04 i need help about bootstrapping a kernel Mar 13 20:59:37 kergoth: {base,patch,packaged-staging}.bbclass: fix stuff? :) Mar 13 21:03:20 heh, thought about that too, but i knew i'd be adding more than just those three :) Mar 13 21:06:45 likewise: yeah that would be my guess. Are you tight on memory Mar 13 21:07:02 likewise: if not then use arm instr set I would say Mar 13 21:07:22 khem: hmm, uclibc versus glibc is useful, thumb versus arm probably not. Mar 13 21:07:29 khem: fully agreed Mar 13 21:08:02 khem: and of course, I stil have using a tuned-down eglibc on my todo :-) Mar 13 21:08:11 s/stil/still/ Mar 13 21:08:30 khem: you switched jobs recently Mar 13 21:08:37 questionmark Mar 13 22:09:12 likewise: about a year ago :) Mar 13 22:13:30 03Roger Monk  07org.openembedded.dev * r45362bc05d 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/ti-codec-combos_3.16.bb: Mar 13 22:13:30 ti-codec-combos: Combo Build Cleanup and additional html docs in package Mar 13 22:13:30 * Updated recipe to correct build warnings where combos weren't properly cleaned before building, and hence gave confusing warnings. Mar 13 22:13:30 * Removed some unused paths from XDCPATH Mar 13 22:13:33 * Added top level html doc to install target and qualiTI reports Mar 13 22:21:23 is there any way to change a global variable in a recipe so dependent recipes inherit it? Mar 13 22:23:05 denix: you do not want to do this... Mar 13 22:27:49 florian: nice answer :) Mar 13 22:28:24 denix: sorry, but you see its easy to understand :) Mar 13 22:31:44 well ... about h5500 ... it seems haret and bootblaster are not working at all Mar 13 22:31:45 :( Mar 13 22:32:21 im trying to pxe boot a machine, from the minimal image i have it booting but im having trouble with root, the examples i see use nfs as root, but nfs isn't in the kernel, i'd prefer to send an image over into ram anyway, anyone have any ideas/pointers? Mar 13 22:32:32 flameman: hm.. what bootloader then you using to start kexecboot? Mar 13 22:33:35 actually i have issue with both baret and bootblaster Mar 13 22:34:06 flameman: strange.. there must be a working bootblaster somewhere Mar 13 22:34:25 florian .... well, you where/what ? Mar 13 22:35:06 here the angstrom h5500'one is not working, too Mar 13 22:35:56 couldn't you check yours ? Mar 13 22:37:10 flameman: i'm sure I don't have the files any more. once ou have the new bootloader everything is easy Mar 13 22:38:06 which new bootloader ? Mar 13 22:38:25 i checked out the last haret available Mar 13 22:38:44 also i checked out the last bootblaster available Mar 13 22:38:59 neither of them have success Mar 13 22:48:04 florian bootblaster reports errors about "vfat" Mar 13 22:48:58 flameman: maybe you need fat16 Mar 13 22:49:10 flameman: the hh.o bootldr for ipaq Mar 13 22:51:08 florian i tried fat16, fat32 Mar 13 22:51:27 florian we are talking about the hh bootldf (bootblaster) Mar 13 22:51:49 florian this bootldr is pretty working on h3600 with microdrive Mar 13 22:52:22 florian it fails on h5500, also the haret fails (it stales when it tries to jump to the kernel it has loaded) Mar 13 22:52:35 florian so i have no way to bootstrap a kernel here Mar 13 22:52:44 flameman: are you sure you have an h5500? ;) Mar 13 22:52:50 yes Mar 13 22:52:52 flameman: yes i see Mar 13 22:53:04 brand new h5500 Mar 13 22:53:14 (100 euro, picked up today) Mar 13 22:53:24 flameman: heh, where did you get this? Mar 13 22:53:37 from a seller on ebay Mar 13 22:54:12 i am so frustrated cause i m being developing for h3600 Mar 13 22:54:34 and the sleeve 2xpcmcia suxs great there Mar 13 22:54:50 so i decided to trust the hh report about the status of h5500 Mar 13 22:54:59 but ... it seems it suxs too Mar 13 22:55:26 it seems it suxs the worst :( no bootloader Mar 13 22:56:58 flameman: trust the hh report << 1st major problem ;-). Is the h5500 not better to test with Haret? Mar 13 22:58:30 well .... in the hh report it is written that the bootldr is working, that is false Mar 13 22:59:06 in the angstrom it is reported a /download/h5000 in where you can see a pretty .exe made with haret Mar 13 22:59:25 well this .exe is not working, as any haret version i tried Mar 13 22:59:30 i repeat again Mar 13 22:59:54 it tries to load the kernel, then it suxs when it tries to jump to it Mar 13 23:00:14 i see a dark screen with "jumping to the kernel ....." Mar 13 23:00:21 that is all i see on my screen Mar 13 23:01:03 flameman: may be kernel is problem? Mar 13 23:01:22 dunno, i tested the one provided by angstrom Mar 13 23:01:26 failure Mar 13 23:01:36 flameman: I am interested as I have had the h5500 booting Linux some time ago. Not really in a position to test at the moment as my h5500 is somewhere else. Is the bootloader not running or not jumping/booting the kernel to userspace? Mar 13 23:01:57 it is not jumping Mar 13 23:02:04 flameman: any reason you can't build one up from source using OE for test purposes? Mar 13 23:02:20 cause i have no OE working here Mar 13 23:02:29 Kernel that is? bitbake virtual-kernel Mar 13 23:02:33 ahhh, ok. Mar 13 23:02:39 anyway i can cvs from the hh Mar 13 23:02:43 then crosscompile it Mar 13 23:02:48 as i did for the h3600 Mar 13 23:03:43 flameman: is HH the best source still? I tend to follow the HTC devices these days and there stuff has mostly moved away. Mar 13 23:03:53 the angstrom's one is 2.6.21-hh Mar 13 23:04:04 well hh is the best i know Mar 13 23:04:18 it may be there is someone with vanilla + patch Mar 13 23:04:22 but i dunno about it Mar 13 23:05:00 DJWillis could you report me what you ware using in order to bootstrap h5500 ? Mar 13 23:05:26 which kernel, which bootloader, from microdrive/from sd card Mar 13 23:05:58 i mean when you find out your h5500 :P Mar 13 23:06:22 flameman: I seem to recall Koen used to look at the h5500 support so I am pretty damm sure it was tested well. As for me, it was back in mid 2007 when I last messed so a little hard for me to give you details ;-). Mar 13 23:07:16 flameman: HarET was common to most of my CE devices, not sure if I moved the h5500 over to a NAND based setup. Mar 13 23:07:27 i wish somebody tell me what i have to use to bootstrap Mar 13 23:07:50 cause what is provided in the angstrom h5000 is simply not working Mar 13 23:09:00 also i think i will post to the mail list Mar 13 23:09:02 flameman: I think HarET with a config for the h5500 would be the way forward (for testing as you may we be brushing up support). I would work from the latest HarET but that is just me ;-) Mar 13 23:11:01 :( Mar 13 23:11:28 so i am stopped again Mar 13 23:11:31 pretty news Mar 13 23:11:53 flameman: I assume your the same person that posted to Angstrom-users about this? Mar 13 23:12:18 flameman: why did you get an older device and not, say, a more recent HTC? Mar 13 23:12:39 flameman: friday, 13th :) Mar 13 23:13:27 Jay7 ahaha :P Mar 13 23:14:03 DJWillis and why the evil people reports lies ? Mar 13 23:14:30 the equipment provided on the angstrom is not working, so why to say "it is working" Mar 13 23:14:38 also lies on the hh pages Mar 13 23:15:02 this bad news are suggestion me to trash all these ipaq on ebay Mar 13 23:15:37 "lies"? That implies malevolent intent. Mar 13 23:15:47 Mistakes, or outmoded, not "lies". Mar 13 23:15:50 well i spent 100 euro Mar 13 23:16:00 nothing is as it was reported Mar 13 23:16:37 flameman: I think that we just have broken kernel :) Mar 13 23:16:45 or something like Mar 13 23:16:59 broken kernel is a terrible news Mar 13 23:17:01 :P Mar 13 23:17:08 flameman: I don't think there are lies anyware, the HH.org page has been locked since 2007 and is on a site that has very little life in it, a quick google shows up a few people with similar issues and some lines to follow. I suspect it is something really simeple. I ASSURE you that the hardware can work with Linux ;-) Mar 13 23:17:42 DJWillis tell me how Mar 13 23:17:46 DJWillis show me how Mar 13 23:18:02 DJWillis which kernel, which bootloader, etc Mar 13 23:18:11 flameman: it's not that bad, help us get it sorted. Device support and maintenance is directly related to devs working on them. Not many devs on h5500 means rot can set in. Mar 13 23:18:48 well no sense Mar 13 23:19:16 if you issue the world "we have a working kernel and working bootloader for xxxx dev" Mar 13 23:19:25 it MUST be that way ! Mar 13 23:19:26 flameman: I don't know the answer, but then, I would be looking to setup an OE env (on oe.dev) and look to get that working with a lot of help from Google ;). Mar 13 23:20:02 i googled, google point to hh Mar 13 23:20:05 so dead loop Mar 13 23:20:20 also google point to angstrom, so dead loop again Mar 13 23:20:21 hm.. seems Koen has 5400 at least Mar 13 23:20:42 flameman: NO it must not, there can be vairances, hardware revisions that people do not know about etc. - These are CLOSED devices without docs so support will never be perfect and there will always be oddness. Mar 13 23:21:00 i wonder if 5400 can be different from h5500, i mean how deep the difference goes Mar 13 23:21:13 Jay7: has/had, yep, I think he did most of the Angstrom heavy lifting. Mar 13 23:22:22 flameman: in my experance it can be very small changes right up to wholesale sweeping changes. Just hard to tell and I am not as close to the h5500 as I was some iPaq's in the day. Mar 13 23:23:38 i think i'd better switch myself to zaurus Mar 13 23:23:53 ipaq ... i had bad luck :P Mar 13 23:24:30 flameman: zaurus is dead too :) Mar 13 23:24:37 damn :P Mar 13 23:24:44 flameman: nokia n8xx seems alive Mar 13 23:25:09 umm so i think i will wait the cortex9 of the openpandora :P Mar 13 23:25:37 1 year in the future :P Mar 13 23:25:43 flameman: how long have you been working on this? Maybe it's just me but a desire to dig and pacience is a must with Linux and FOSS. Nokia Tablets or something OMAP3 may be the best route for you. Mar 13 23:25:59 flameman: CortexA8 ;-) Mar 13 23:26:05 i have being working around h3600 for 3 weeks Mar 13 23:26:16 i fixed a lot of garbage in the hh kernel tree Mar 13 23:26:24 i build up a 2.6.19 kernel Mar 13 23:26:37 also i build up a pretty stage3, a prettu stage4 Mar 13 23:26:55 now i am stopped cause of the sleeve 2xpcmcia is not well CIS/CD Mar 13 23:27:31 that means the 2.6 series of h3600 can't have both pcmcia-microdrive and pcmcia netcard Mar 13 23:27:46 so i decided to switch to h5500 that has an internal wifi Mar 13 23:27:50 a pretty mmc/sd Mar 13 23:28:05 and should have a prettier kernel support about sleeve 2xpmcia Mar 13 23:28:18 (read the hh report: it says "tested with dual pcmcia sleeve) Mar 13 23:29:03 but .... i realized that my h5500 is pretty jammed at the bootloader step :p Mar 13 23:29:12 damn damn the hello :P Mar 13 23:30:08 DJWillis cortex9 in the next future Mar 13 23:30:34 DJWillis cortex8 in the next present (4 month) Mar 13 23:31:17 flameman: I know (incase you do not know, I am the lead distro dev on the Pandora project among other things). Mar 13 23:32:04 flameman: as for A9/OMAP4, just file that under speculation, there are no such plans, just a console that needs to be mass produced and shipped ASAP. Mar 13 23:32:10 ;-) Mar 13 23:33:13 flameman: I am pretty sure you can get the h5500 going to be honest. What is it you want to do with it, just as a Linux PDA? Mar 13 23:34:56 DJWillis business applications for restorants, also development and research support for mobile apps Mar 13 23:36:10 DJWillis also i am developing the hw of a mips32 pda Mar 13 23:36:29 flameman: this sounds interesting Mar 13 23:36:34 flameman: seems a reasonable base, for a one off hacking platform, get the h5500 going, if you plan to use a few then look to something else. Anyway, bed time for me but I will grep some of my archives tomorrow to see what I may have laying about on the h5500. Mar 13 23:36:45 * florian is always interested in new hardware Mar 13 23:36:55 ok Mar 13 23:37:07 my email is flamemaniii@gmail.com Mar 13 23:37:19 flameman: Ahhh, I just got a little MIPS netbook thing to have a mess about on and see if I can get it working with OE at some point, MIPS is an interesting platform. Mar 13 23:37:23 florian ... mmm shouldn't i tell you about this mip32 project ? :P Mar 13 23:37:46 mips suxs if related to arm Mar 13 23:37:55 about power Mar 13 23:38:17 flameman: best find me on IRC, I tend to forget to pass on stuff unless nudged, night. Mar 13 23:38:25 anyway i was provided with this platform (and sponsor) so i am developing around that Mar 13 23:38:27 flameman: why not? maybe i can comment or just du something good Mar 13 23:40:02 ok, i think i will go for a whisky, now :P see you tomorrow people Mar 13 23:40:03 :) Mar 13 23:41:06 flameman: enjoy Mar 13 23:41:12 hi alphaone Mar 13 23:41:22 hi florian Mar 13 23:49:46 * Jay7 -> sleep Mar 14 00:11:13 hello peeps? Mar 14 00:20:00 ho DarthPuff Mar 14 00:20:19 :) can you guys help with kexec boot? Mar 14 00:20:40 i have it flashed to a device and i made an image from the oe website for angstrom on the hx4700 Mar 14 00:20:42 * florian doe not know much about it Mar 14 00:20:58 i just don' t know how to setup the sd or cf card Mar 14 01:15:21 anyone use kexec boot Mar 14 01:15:23 ? Mar 14 02:13:51 eve... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 14 02:59:57 2009