**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 17 02:59:57 2009 Mar 17 03:56:04 Anyone would be ready to test my application on his Windows Mobile 6 device? Mar 17 03:57:09 I cross-compiled it and it works in the emulator but I cannot test it for real as I have no devices running Windows Mobile 6. Mar 17 04:05:44 mesa 7.2 is failing for me Mar 17 04:06:02 | checking for expat.h... no Mar 17 04:06:02 | configure: error: Expat required for DRI. Mar 17 04:06:04 latest gict Mar 17 04:06:06 er, git Mar 17 04:06:26 (org.openembedded.dev) Mar 17 04:07:23 Russ: hmmm Mar 17 04:09:01 ...adding expat to DEPENDS Mar 17 04:09:13 add libexpat Mar 17 04:10:17 -PROTO_DEPS = "xf86driproto glproto dri2proto" Mar 17 04:10:17 +PROTO_DEPS = "xf86driproto glproto dri2proto libexpat" Mar 17 04:10:32 ok Mar 17 04:10:36 try Mar 17 04:10:37 that didn't work so well Mar 17 04:11:07 there is no libexpat bb Mar 17 04:11:26 expat is better here Mar 17 04:11:33 I thought it provided libexpat Mar 17 04:11:48 thats what I was trying initially, but you told me to try libexpat Mar 17 04:12:37 yes looking thru expat recipe it does not provide libexpat so expat is what you use Mar 17 04:13:33 you mean does provide Mar 17 04:13:49 PROTO_DEPS = "xf86driproto glproto dri2proto expat" Mar 17 04:14:00 it does not provide Mar 17 04:14:17 its onto mesa Mar 17 04:14:40 do_qa_configure: completed Mar 17 04:14:47 :) that looks promising Mar 17 04:15:01 yes it will work Mar 17 04:16:18 where is koen Mar 17 04:16:44 no idea Mar 17 05:08:59 grumble grumble Mar 17 05:09:01 | install: cannot stat `/home/russ/src/oe/tmp/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/mesa-1_7.2-r6/Mesa-7.2/progs/xdemos/{glxdemo,glxgears,glxheads,glxinfo}': No such file or directory Mar 17 05:11:03 sigh Mar 17 05:11:13 it expands correctly in bash Mar 17 05:11:23 (all four are there) Mar 17 05:16:25 ah Mar 17 05:16:26 its my dash Mar 17 05:16:33 how can I make oe use bash Mar 17 05:17:50 Russ: are you using ubuntu? Mar 17 05:18:07 To work around this issue call "sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash" and select No when it asks you to install dash as /bin/sh. Mar 17 05:18:18 http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro#Ubuntu Mar 17 05:18:24 like he said :-) Mar 17 05:24:54 I don't want to Mar 17 05:25:01 I just want the bb scripts to be interpreted with bash Mar 17 05:25:20 if a package uses /bin/sh internally for its build process and depends on bash, fine Mar 17 05:25:45 but right now I just want openembedded itself to request bash if it needs bash specific funcionality instead of /bin/sh Mar 17 05:26:26 mesa-dri_7.2.bb has 'install -m 0755 ${S}/progs/xdemos/{glxdemo,glxgears,glxheads,glxinfo} ${D}/usr/bin/' Mar 17 05:26:29 which is a bashism Mar 17 05:38:05 bitbake/oe uses system /bin/sh. either change dash to bash or fix the recipe Mar 17 05:43:55 and usually instances of bashism in recipes are removed... Mar 17 06:40:59 when i try to run xtscal i get the message Couldn't open display Mar 17 06:41:11 i have set my env variable DISPLAY=:0 Mar 17 07:10:39 03Khem Raj  07org.openembedded.dev * r94d8b289d9 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Update checksum for phoneserver, soundserver, and voicecall. Mar 17 07:14:47 is anyone here building for xscale (cmx270)? I can't build uclibc with current dev HEAD -- it fails in ldso/ldso/dl-elf.c with 'unable to find a register to spill in class 'LO_REGS' Mar 17 07:15:25 http://pastebin.com/m446e013e Mar 17 07:21:05 03Khem Raj  07org.openembedded.dev * re5686a44a3 10openembedded.git/packages/gpephone/ (soundserver/libtool.patch soundserver_1.0.bb): Mar 17 07:21:05 soundserver_1.0.bb: Remove libtool patch Mar 17 07:21:05 * The patch is not already part of the tar file. Mar 17 07:21:05 So we can safely delete this patch. Mar 17 07:59:02 hm.. how can I use devshell on a ssh session? opening a new X shell obviously won't work there Mar 17 08:05:45 I thought you could attach to the devshell with screen Mar 17 08:06:11 add INHERIT += "devshell" to your local.conf Mar 17 08:06:23 and then you will have a task do_devshell Mar 17 08:06:37 so you have invoke it per recipe Mar 17 08:06:52 that I know (inherit..) what I don't see is where I set to use screen for devshell :) Mar 17 08:07:35 I think I added to extra things in my local.conf, but I didn't write that part my self Mar 17 08:07:41 will look it up now Mar 17 08:08:16 uhrm.. okay this is weird - building uclibc works when done manually .. but fails otherwise Mar 17 08:08:25 morning Mar 17 08:08:28 TERMCMD = "${SCREEN_TERMCMD}" Mar 17 08:08:29 guess some parameter passing must be screwed up Mar 17 08:08:30 TERMCMDRUN = "${SCREEN_TERMCMDRUN}" Mar 17 08:08:35 ah, thanks Mar 17 08:08:50 hrw: i am trying to figure out some problem with uClibc here .. Mar 17 08:09:28 hrw: http://pastebin.com/m446e013e <-- this doesn't happen if i compile by manually Mar 17 08:10:06 its a known problem Mar 17 08:10:10 hrw: and with manually I mean using temp/run.do_compile .. since until now I didn't know about setting TERMCMD for devshell to use screen .. Mar 17 08:10:12 gilligan-: never did uclibc builds Mar 17 08:10:15 compile uclibc in arm mode for now Mar 17 08:10:33 hrw: ah ok Mar 17 08:10:43 khem: it is ? couldn't find any info on that ;/ Mar 17 08:11:09 its been on this channel for many times Mar 17 08:11:16 morning Mar 17 08:11:37 on the channel... it's not like I can afford to spend most of my work time on the channel i'm afarid .. Mar 17 08:11:39 ;] Mar 17 08:12:45 gilligan-: add ARM_INSTRUCTION_SET = "arm" Mar 17 08:13:17 khem: okay thanks Mar 17 08:13:29 khem: how come it's working when compiled in devshell tho ? Mar 17 08:13:34 so the recipe for now. I know what the problem is. Its gcc's issue but we can workaround it in uclibc Mar 17 08:14:10 hmm it should not work in any shell unless you change the commandline params to gcc Mar 17 08:14:23 i didn't Mar 17 08:14:48 all I did was to execute temp/run.do_compile (with oe_make at the end replaced by bash) Mar 17 08:14:59 that went all the way through Mar 17 08:15:13 the compilation afterwards i mean of course hehe Mar 17 08:15:34 which is rather weird to say the least Mar 17 08:15:39 hmm thats strange Mar 17 08:16:07 do you have a valid ldso.oS object ? Mar 17 08:16:29 I never tried it in devshell Mar 17 08:16:35 but I will give it a shot Mar 17 08:16:44 * khem doest use thumb Mar 17 08:17:44 file ./ldso/ldso/ldso.oS ./ldso/ldso/ldso.oS: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped Mar 17 08:20:39 if you can gather the commandline it is using in both cases when compiling ldso.oS it will help Mar 17 08:21:26 i'll try to do that in a bit .. but right now I just need to get a buildable target asap Mar 17 08:21:41 * khem ->sleep Mar 17 08:22:03 khem: ok.. when you get up u might wanna try in devshell as well :) Mar 17 08:24:31 does anyone know what's up with angstrom-distribution.org ? will that be back up at some point? Mar 17 08:25:10 we might pray for that... :p Mar 17 08:25:57 hdd crash? someone ran out of money? .. ? :) Mar 17 08:28:40 rather some strange workload on ltg Mar 17 08:29:00 ltg? Mar 17 08:30:06 linuxtogo.org where angstrom is hosted Mar 17 08:31:32 ah ok Mar 17 08:40:08 hm.. could use a little hint .. I just changed the inheritance in a locally created image (from minimal-with-mtd to minimal) how do I let bitbake know about that so i can built the appropriate image with the respective packages removed ? Mar 17 08:42:02 oh.. i suppose i don't have to do anything and it'll know by itself .. Mar 17 08:44:00 03Russ Dill  07org.openembedded.dev * rbd888c70ce 10openembedded.git/packages/mesa/mesa-dri_7.2.bb: mesa 7.2: Add required expat dependancy Mar 17 09:05:39 hm... is the minimal-uclibc distro obsolete ? Mar 17 09:12:03 morgening :) Mar 17 09:12:14 minimal-uclibc fails building for cmx270 .. __NR_syscall undeclared Mar 17 09:12:54 question to zaurus users: is it possible to do something when clamshell is opened? Mar 17 09:13:36 I see possibility to intercept closing (zaurusd's hinge-close.d/*) Mar 17 09:13:51 but nothing for opening.. Mar 17 09:27:46 can anyone here build minimal-uclibc ? Mar 17 09:38:41 jjk Mar 17 09:40:34 oops.. that was supposed to go to vim hehe Mar 17 10:02:13 hrm.. comparing angstrom2008.1 and 2007.1 it has grown quite a lot .. the lib dir was previously 1.3M now it is 3M+ .. what options are there to reduce the size for a minimal system - any suggestions ? Mar 17 10:03:32 don't think I need libiconv Mar 17 10:09:27 would using the minimal distro be an opinion? Mar 17 10:10:10 gm Mar 17 10:15:21 valhalla, minimal distro is anothr distro (in respect to angstrom) Mar 17 10:29:49 gremlin[it]: i know; I was wondering if it was worth using angstrom if you don't need lots of the things it provides Mar 17 10:32:45 valhalla, mimal should be just what u said Mar 17 10:46:45 I can't build minimal-uclibc .. fails building uClibc here Mar 17 10:49:57 runs into __NR_syscall unhandled .. i'm guessing some include is wrong or so Mar 17 11:08:26 hm... is using IMAGE_INSTALL -= " ... " invalid ? Mar 17 11:46:10 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * rf71735cf44 10openembedded.git/packages/cpubench/ (cpubench_06.bb files/openwrt_cpu_bench_v06.c): cpubench: new recipe; simple OpenWRT CPU benchmark Mar 17 11:46:12 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r1f445f44f3 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/fso-autorev.inc: fso-autorev.inc: add libfsoframework and fsodeviced Mar 17 11:46:13 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r18e898f914 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/minimal.conf: minimal: ship debug apps, if requested Mar 17 12:08:42 Know how to fix this error? strip: Unable to recognise the format of the input file `..../shr-testing/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/logrotate-3.7.1-r1/image/sbin/logrotate' Same as this in Sep 2008 http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2008-September/006241.html Mar 17 12:38:24 he gnutoo Mar 17 12:38:46 re Mar 17 12:39:31 hi hrw ! Mar 17 12:41:24 jo hrw Mar 17 12:41:59 who will attend LinuxTag this year? Mar 17 12:46:23 hrw, have half idea ... but have to check money ... Mar 17 12:51:12 hrw me probably Mar 17 12:51:17 now at the tarent booth Mar 17 12:51:55 hm I am sure zecke and robert will be there too Mar 17 12:53:27 I plan to attend Mar 17 12:54:07 * Jay7 will not.. Mar 17 12:56:52 i am trying to setup my system for OE. i have beagle board with me. I want to use the toolchain that already exists on my system. I dont have OE to build a toolchain. can i do it? Mar 17 12:57:51 hi Mar 17 12:57:58 hi Mar 17 13:00:20 sh1, you can, but I think it would be easier to use the OE toolchain Mar 17 13:00:56 we have been using the toolchain which is also from code sourcery, im not sure how different is the toolchain that oe builds Mar 17 13:01:08 i rather use only one toolchain in my system Mar 17 13:01:35 i dont want oe to use and me to use another for some other things Mar 17 13:02:14 okay, i will give it a shot Mar 17 13:02:36 all i need to do is edit/add one more .bb file. isnt it? Mar 17 13:02:52 sh1, like I said it ispossible, but I forget how to do it :) Mar 17 13:03:21 i had done that some 2 years ago for some other processor Mar 17 13:05:05 crofton ASSUME_PROVIDED Mar 17 13:05:18 for all toolchain recipes to put in local.conf Mar 17 13:06:00 or use external-toolchain recipe Mar 17 13:06:14 maybee some should write a class and then you put ASSUME_PROVIDED_TOOLCHAIN Mar 17 13:08:05 yes, i did it long time back. will try that again Mar 17 13:08:54 do you know where can i get a static binary for bitbake and monotone for x86 machine Mar 17 13:10:09 we no longer use monotone Mar 17 13:10:43 hrw, how does the external toolchain recipe work? Mar 17 13:12:37 oe uses git now, i need to go through getting started guide, sorry Mar 17 13:12:43 :) Mar 17 13:13:09 Crofton|work: do not remember when last time I used it Mar 17 13:13:35 heh Mar 17 13:13:55 Crofton|work: http://git.pokylinux.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/conf/distro/include/poky-external.inc Mar 17 13:14:33 ah, so use the preferred provider to include the recipe Mar 17 13:14:48 Crofton: i will give it a shot, if i get it working, i will send you a bb file Mar 17 13:30:01 hrw: how is floating point handled with the Vortex86SX, and what machine do you use for this chip? Mar 17 13:31:39 * Crofton|work wonders if he should create an external-angstrom.inc file sometime Mar 17 13:33:34 hm my wrap board now boots nicely Mar 17 13:33:37 with grub Mar 17 13:33:39 and 2.6.28 Mar 17 13:33:59 now its time to integrate ltmodem and hylafax to oe Mar 17 13:37:17 cbrake: in-kernel fpu emulator Mar 17 13:37:38 cbrake: and I use ebox-2300/300MHz rebranded as Koala NanoPC Mar 17 13:38:03 woglinde: wrap board used nsc2100 cpu? Mar 17 13:40:43 hi mickey|sofa Mar 17 13:41:27 mickey|sofa: did you read the other mail to the list? I guess you know about email :-) Mar 17 13:42:08 yo Mar 17 13:42:10 which one? Mar 17 13:42:13 i just replied on oe-private Mar 17 13:42:50 does linuxtag have an English web page? Mar 17 13:43:43 hrw geode sc1100 Mar 17 13:43:52 Crofton|work: ya Mar 17 13:43:53 Crofton|work: yes Mar 17 13:44:03 just go to the main page Mar 17 13:44:06 there will be a flag Mar 17 13:44:09 that you can click on Mar 17 13:44:16 I must be an idiot Mar 17 13:44:30 nah Mar 17 13:44:37 ah Mar 17 13:44:38 text Mar 17 13:44:41 not flag :) Mar 17 13:45:19 oops, sorr y:) Mar 17 13:46:55 hrw: what OE machine for Vortex86SX? Mar 17 13:47:04 *machine conf Mar 17 13:51:15 vortex86sx Mar 17 13:51:48 hrw: thanks Mar 17 13:51:54 * cbrake should have his eyes checked ... Mar 17 13:52:30 hehe Mar 17 13:53:14 * Crofton|work also Mar 17 13:53:21 LinuxTag looks interesting Mar 17 13:53:29 ya Mar 17 13:53:36 getting to .eu in summer is pricey Mar 17 13:53:50 I'd have to work it into "vacation planning" somehow Mar 17 13:58:29 mickey|sofa: the one before the linuxtag mail Mar 17 14:00:16 hmm? Mar 17 14:00:21 no idea, sory Mar 17 14:00:33 * mickey|sofa still a bit out his mind this week Mar 17 14:00:37 +of Mar 17 14:00:51 mickey|sofa: e.V. and address one Mar 17 14:01:06 e.V.... we need to increase the number of members Mar 17 14:01:06 oh Mar 17 14:01:13 right Mar 17 14:01:15 let me respond now Mar 17 14:02:37 oh, i need to check university mails... Mar 17 14:03:04 03Jeremy Lainé  07org.openembedded.dev * r15ab93ce03 10openembedded.git/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Mar 17 14:03:04 qtopia-core: drop obsolete package Mar 17 14:03:04 * remove qtopia-core package, superseeded by qt-embedded Mar 17 14:03:04 * remove qtopia4core class, superseed by qt4e Mar 17 14:03:04 Acked-By: Mickey Lauer Mar 17 14:03:43 zecke: and write about e.V. to -devel and to website Mar 17 14:05:16 hrw: we are rich now and don't need to write mail... :) Mar 17 14:07:20 zecke: yes right, we need to sketch a procedure and we need to write some announcement Mar 17 14:07:30 zecke: speak only foryourself :D Mar 17 14:07:34 * mickey|sofa poor Mar 17 14:07:38 and we need stable branch Mar 17 14:07:49 so I will make money on it Mar 17 14:08:07 as we started to talk about being poor/rich Mar 17 14:08:21 * florian spots ~140 potential e.V. members in here ;) Mar 17 14:08:26 for sure Mar 17 14:08:27 hehe :) Mar 17 14:08:36 what about USD 10K per year? Mar 17 14:08:46 mickey|sofa: for each member? Mar 17 14:08:49 sure :D Mar 17 14:08:55 from each member :) Mar 17 14:09:04 not worse than LIMO Mar 17 14:09:08 heh Mar 17 14:09:24 for 10k you don't get anythign from limo Mar 17 14:09:28 yep Mar 17 14:09:30 10k per month Mar 17 14:09:32 at least Mar 17 14:09:43 limo? Mar 17 14:09:55 I can join the SDR Forum for 2500usd per year Mar 17 14:09:58 mobile linux partnership Mar 17 14:09:59 juat apart from the fact that it is more than questionable what you actually get Mar 17 14:09:59 linux in mobile organization Mar 17 14:10:16 sounds like a bunch of etornists Mar 17 14:10:30 extortionists Mar 17 14:11:19 and we can sell 'OE-compatible' labels Mar 17 14:11:29 right Mar 17 14:11:31 big fat stamp Mar 17 14:11:33 OE-approved Mar 17 14:11:41 built with OE Mar 17 14:11:41 approved by the award-winning buildsystem Mar 17 14:11:56 sell stickers at FOSDEM Mar 17 14:11:57 OE certification is needed too :) Mar 17 14:12:06 good thinking *g* Mar 17 14:12:12 for software, hardware and users :) Mar 17 14:12:22 yeah Mar 17 14:12:31 then we use the money for booth babes Mar 17 14:12:37 BOOTH BABEZ! Mar 17 14:12:40 like real companies Mar 17 14:12:44 :) Mar 17 14:13:02 very good thinking. I will mention the e.V. in my talk next week Mar 17 14:13:07 mickey|sofa: I like that 'award-winning' part :) Mar 17 14:13:08 * mickey|sofa going to FOSS Aalbor Mar 17 14:13:09 g Mar 17 14:13:13 hrw: hehe Mar 17 14:13:16 well it's true Mar 17 14:13:34 mickey|sofa: especially when all we had was LinuxSomething few years ago which gave us 2 Zaurus devices iirc Mar 17 14:13:43 unless I missed something Mar 17 14:14:04 yep Mar 17 14:14:14 good ole times Mar 17 14:17:38 small poll: who here wants to have OE.stable branch? Mar 17 14:17:54 that depends Mar 17 14:18:02 define .stable Mar 17 14:18:03 hrw hm Mar 17 14:18:07 imho nobody will be against this Mar 17 14:18:11 that is the issue Mar 17 14:18:12 crofotn good point Mar 17 14:18:15 if it means oe.devel is more friendly to disruptive changes, i'll welcome it Mar 17 14:18:27 if not, make it a tag and be done Mar 17 14:18:28 Crofton|work: branch which has changes which were approved by developers Mar 17 14:18:29 *shrug* Mar 17 14:18:44 better question is who wants to work on OE.stable branch.. Mar 17 14:18:46 Crofton|work: and each such change has to be buildable on at least arm+x86 Mar 17 14:18:51 Jay7: I want Mar 17 14:18:56 koen wants Mar 17 14:19:05 jay7 mee to Mar 17 14:19:12 and some buisness people too Mar 17 14:19:13 having a defined set of machines that must be builsable would be good Mar 17 14:19:13 Jay7: companies wants stable Mar 17 14:19:15 perhaps the om dudes, too Mar 17 14:19:22 hrw: yeah Mar 17 14:19:26 hrw: stable yes... but we need to make sure stable!=outdated Mar 17 14:19:30 well.. then I see no point why not have stable :) Mar 17 14:19:38 florian thats the problem Mar 17 14:19:42 florian: define outdated Mar 17 14:19:43 one mans stable is anothers outdated :) Mar 17 14:19:43 the main problem Mar 17 14:19:55 hrw: current stble ;) Mar 17 14:19:58 florian: I use Poky 'pinky' in projects. It is 1 year old stable Poky release Mar 17 14:20:20 florian: there is no such thing as 'current stable'. there is 'org.openembedded.stable' but it is not current Mar 17 14:20:59 I would like to use a stable branch very much but I agree with the outdated thing Mar 17 14:21:29 tsjsieb: what about reviewing and accepting code from oe.dev which you need to have in stable? Mar 17 14:21:33 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * rc3906c2aa5 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: fix entry of busybox-1.13.2-modprobe.patch Mar 17 14:21:35 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r560f9bb446 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/wrap.conf: wrap.conf: no extra kernel-recpie needed use the plain ones Mar 17 14:21:37 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * r3255081d38 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (linux-2.6.28/wrap/defconfig linux_2.6.28.bb): linux-2.6.28: make default for wrap and therefore provide a valid defconfig Mar 17 14:21:38 well.. one way to have not-very-outdated stable is releases Mar 17 14:21:52 I' Mar 17 14:21:55 not having a stable branch to rely on really sucks in a real-world-business environment ... Mar 17 14:22:07 woglinde: that busybox patch should get into metadata rather... Mar 17 14:22:13 hrw right Mar 17 14:22:18 woglinde: I have it locally with older checksum Mar 17 14:22:19 but not from me Mar 17 14:22:27 I'm not experienced enough for that, sorry (only working with openembedded for 6 weeks now) Mar 17 14:22:56 tsjsieb: ok, so you can find someone who will make it for you - we have some support companies around OE Mar 17 14:23:03 hrw busybox and busybox-static needs love anyway Mar 17 14:23:10 woglinde: indeed Mar 17 14:23:17 woglinde: and merging our patches Mar 17 14:23:18 i want to use busybox' login utils Mar 17 14:23:20 sharing same patch basis Mar 17 14:23:26 and so on Mar 17 14:23:32 even if that means suid for some subcommands Mar 17 14:23:33 03Jeremy Lainé  07org.openembedded.dev * re4ca68f6b5 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of ssh://git@git.openembedded.net/openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 17 14:23:34 tinylogin is _broken_ Mar 17 14:23:35 mickeyl are they now stable enough? Mar 17 14:23:39 03Jeremy Lainé  07org.openembedded.dev * r26fb0c21a8 10openembedded.git/packages/ (12 files in 5 dirs): Mar 17 14:23:39 qtopia-core transition: replace references to qtopia4core Mar 17 14:23:39 * replace references to qtopia4core class by qt4e Mar 17 14:23:39 * replace references to libqtopia* by libqt-embedded* Mar 17 14:23:40 since long Mar 17 14:23:54 it's rather about busybox being SUID or not Mar 17 14:24:01 but you can make that fine granular on a per-applet-basis Mar 17 14:24:06 so i don't see any hindrance Mar 17 14:24:06 mickey write it to the topten of your TODO Mar 17 14:24:14 righto Mar 17 14:24:15 woglinde: can you drop linux-wrap-geode? Mar 17 14:24:21 hrw hm Mar 17 14:24:32 hrw I will waite if some one yells Mar 17 14:24:37 sure Mar 17 14:24:49 and then for sure it has to go Mar 17 14:25:24 does anyone have an idea who uses the "webkit-qt" and "webkit-qte" packages? Mar 17 14:25:25 hrw - as student / intern I'm not really in the position to use these. Mar 17 14:25:33 (sorry, "hi!" first) Mar 17 14:25:34 hi jeremy Mar 17 14:25:59 jeremy hm this one webbrowser maybe? Mar 17 14:25:59 these packages look somewhat obsolete to me, as webkit integration is provided withing Qt itself nowadays Mar 17 14:26:02 jeremy_laine: no idea Mar 17 14:26:04 I always forget the name Mar 17 14:26:08 tsjsieb: so you can always get someone time too Mar 17 14:26:15 jeremy hm oh Mar 17 14:26:18 jeremy_laine: I did for benchmarking, so feel free to remove Mar 17 14:26:27 hi XorA Mar 17 14:26:32 jo xora Mar 17 14:26:33 hey hrw Mar 17 14:26:45 $ git-grep webkit-qt Mar 17 14:26:47 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc:SRCREV_pn-webkit-qt ?= "28656" Mar 17 14:26:49 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc:SRCREV_pn-webkit-qtopia ?= "28656" Mar 17 14:26:51 packages/webkit/webkit-qt_svn.bb:require webkit-qt.inc Mar 17 14:26:53 packages/webkit/webkit-qtopia_svn.bb:require webkit-qt.inc Mar 17 14:27:08 woglinde: you havent just unfixed the md5sum of busybox modprobe patch have you? Mar 17 14:27:11 jeremy_laine: outdated... :) Mar 17 14:27:30 XorA hm here it works now Mar 17 14:27:32 zecke: ok cool, will drop it then Mar 17 14:27:43 woglinde: did you check the md5sum of the upstream file Mar 17 14:27:55 woglinde: the patches got refreshed on busybox server Mar 17 14:28:37 xora but as hrw said earlier as you wasnt here Mar 17 14:29:12 the patch should be part of oe rather tan downloading it over via SRC_URI Mar 17 14:30:29 due to the fact Im currently taking drugs that say "do not drive or operate machinery" I'm not going to give an opinion on that Mar 17 14:31:37 XorA: oh uh Mar 17 14:32:32 03Jeremy Lainé  07org.openembedded.dev * r6041d2d7eb 10openembedded.git/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Mar 17 14:32:32 webkit-qt(opia): drop obsolete test packages Mar 17 14:32:32 * remove webkit-qt and webkit-qtopia, webkit support Mar 17 14:32:32 is now provided as part of Qt itself Mar 17 14:32:32 Acked-By: Holger Hans Peter Freyther Mar 17 14:35:36 zecke: are you the one maintaining the qtopia-core-*-image.bb images? Mar 17 14:35:51 (and tasks while we are at it) Mar 17 14:36:53 jeremy_laine hm he formerly was, now you are the maintainer Mar 17 14:37:04 woglinde: ah :) Mar 17 14:37:07 jeremy_laine: you have fixed all the crap Mar 17 14:37:13 I don't feel home anymore :) Mar 17 14:37:39 zecke: oooh no you don't, you're not getting off that easily :) Mar 17 14:38:23 oh, I forgot to mention, some of the fixes to Qt's support for QT_LIBINFIX got included upstream (in Qt 4.5.0) Mar 17 14:39:25 jeremy_laine: tom cooksey is now the maintainer of QtE Linux, and sometimes he is here too Mar 17 14:43:04 run LTG, run... Mar 17 14:43:23 Xora hm I delete all busybox stuff and rebuild Mar 17 14:43:28 checksums seems to be fine Mar 17 14:43:33 I want stable branch to base products on. Only if I base a product on it, will I be truly motivated to spend time on it. Mar 17 14:44:01 likewise: thats what I want to do with BugLabs Mar 17 14:44:04 The developers using a stable branch should maintain it. Yes it will grow outdated, otherwise it cannot stabilize easily. Mar 17 14:44:15 hrw: creating a stable branch for them? Mar 17 14:44:33 likewise: we want to switch to OE. but to stable branch not .dev Mar 17 14:45:23 likewise: and I do not want to create hrw/stable/2009.03 for that but official stable branch which people/companies will use and develop Mar 17 14:45:53 woglinde, XorA: I concur that we need to suck the busybox patches into the OE repo -- it is the only sane thing to do. I did just that (after the fact) for the SlugOS 5.3 release, because the upstream change rendered that release unbuildable just a few days after the release was done! Mar 17 14:46:25 woglinde: Can you submit an RFC to the ml on that, I'll ack it for certain, and we'll see if anyone has strong opinions, or better solutions... Mar 17 14:46:34 *g* Mar 17 14:46:43 later Mar 17 14:46:47 I have to go now Mar 17 14:46:51 k Mar 17 14:46:53 woglinde, mwester: I Ack it Mar 17 14:47:05 meeting in the kindergarden Mar 17 14:47:06 hmm Mar 17 14:47:12 have fun woglinde Mar 17 14:48:29 XorA|sick, as sickgirl ??? ;) Mar 17 14:48:40 gremlin[it]: tonsilitus Mar 17 14:49:20 ouch :S ... XorA|sick i saw your branch on git ... what's about ... a squeeze version or what ? Mar 17 14:49:48 gremlin[it]: sq EEE zey the EEE is the important bit Mar 17 14:50:20 if I ever get over this damn plague I might even get time to work on it Mar 17 14:50:28 XorA|sick, ahhh ok, for all EEE ? EEE notbook, PC, top ? or only notbook ? Mar 17 14:50:38 notebook Mar 17 14:51:05 gremlin[it]: mainly so I can play with stuff mainly aimed towards netbooks without breaking OE Mar 17 14:52:22 XorA|sick, mhh ok... maybe for work i'll play with an EEE-top ... i'll like have OE/Angstrom on it Mar 17 14:53:03 anyway Im AFK for a bit before I keyboard face Mar 17 14:57:16 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r8401adacb2 10openembedded.git/packages/uclibc/uclibc.inc: uclibc: readd ARM_INSTRUCTION_SET = "arm" that someone removed without actually fixing the problem it solves Mar 17 14:57:18 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * re0d26e422f 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 17 14:57:18 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r3b1c82c59e 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/ffmpeg/ffmpeg_0.5.bb): ffmpeg: add 0.5 release Mar 17 14:57:29 * hrw -> off Mar 17 15:30:46 I'm reading the OE docs, and trying add "multimachine" feature. but it result at no "multimachine.bbclass" file Mar 17 15:31:34 So, does OE support multi machines, since the multimachine.bbclass is gone Mar 17 15:31:54 Openfree: multimachine is now default Mar 17 15:33:22 * chouimat|work wonders what to do when you love your job but the workplace is too noisy and you can't work from home Mar 17 15:34:11 hrw, thanks Mar 17 15:35:02 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * ra0e6fe60f5 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (14 files in 2 dirs): linux-davinci: add 2.6.28 Mar 17 15:37:57 03Jeremy Lainé  07org.openembedded.dev * ra45bb33398 10openembedded.git/packages/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Mar 17 15:37:57 nxproxy, nxssh, qtnx: fix installation Mar 17 15:37:57 * don't call "install -s", it fails for cross-builds Mar 17 15:37:57 * fix path to qtnx.desktop Mar 17 15:38:07 03Jeremy Lainé  07org.openembedded.dev * r8ce9d05083 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of ssh://git@git.openembedded.net/openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 17 15:38:24 chouimat|work: The best $300 I ever spent in my life was my Bose Noise-cancelling headphones. Mar 17 15:39:08 mwester: I have headphone on my head but I don't feel like listening to music I currently in the mood "don't want to see or talk to people" Mar 17 15:40:42 chouimat|work: I feel the same; the noise-cancelling works without any music playing (or even without it plugged into anything. You can hear enough muted noise to know if someone actually addresses you, but I find that if you have headphones on, people tend to leave you alone. It works wonderfully! Mar 17 15:40:55 03Jeremy Lainé  07org.openembedded.dev * r9c854eee2d 10openembedded.git/packages/stat/stat_3.3.bb: stat; don't call install -s, it fails for cross-builds Mar 17 15:41:10 mwester: need to look into getting one pair Mar 17 15:41:32 Failing that, working in the server room is a good strategy ;-) Mar 17 15:42:28 mwester: currently I'm feeling to go for the 2 week notice strategy Mar 17 15:43:57 chouimat|work: :-( Mar 17 15:44:18 jobs are hard to find here, that would be a last resort. Mar 17 15:44:44 mwester: I currently have a nice sony headphone set (40CAD) I think I will go see if I can find some noise-cancelling one at lunch time Mar 17 15:45:19 around-the-ear I think is better than over-the-ear... good luck! Mar 17 15:46:00 mwester: MDR-XD200 Mar 17 15:49:27 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r2004d19c8f 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-davinci git: add WIP dm355-leopard support Mar 17 15:58:03 otavio: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/tmp/BookCon.png - my desktop 10 years ago Mar 17 15:58:58 arch Mar 17 15:59:05 Offtopic: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/tmp/BookCon.png - my desktop 10 years ago Mar 17 16:08:57 hrw: heh Mar 17 16:09:13 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rcece0135ff 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Mar 17 16:09:13 linux-davinci git: update leopard patch since he have an offical machine ID now :) Mar 17 16:09:13 * uboot still needs to get fixed, though Mar 17 16:09:24 hrw: wm/fvwm/afterstep? Mar 17 16:12:43 Jay7: AmigaOS Mar 17 16:13:13 hrw: ah :) Mar 17 16:17:03 Jay7: but later I used WM under Linux Mar 17 16:17:45 * Jay7 have used AfterStep, then fvwm2, then KDE :) Mar 17 16:18:09 with me it was more complicated Mar 17 16:19:26 before was Windows.. Mar 17 16:19:53 re Mar 17 16:21:29 jeremy thanks for the nx patches Mar 17 16:25:21 Jay7: the three worst windows managers in *nix history :-) Mar 17 16:26:11 how come kernel-dev package doesn't contain kernel source? what package would I add to an sdk to allow building out of tree kernel modules? Mar 17 16:26:31 XorA|sick: fvwm2 is one of greatest imho ;) Mar 17 16:26:57 re gnutoo Mar 17 16:27:03 Jay7: only kidding Mar 17 16:27:07 hi again Mar 17 16:28:08 tharvey: iirc we do not produce such one Mar 17 16:28:32 morning Mar 17 16:30:33 hi kergoth Mar 17 16:32:08 hrw, ah... ok thought I was missing something. any inherent reason you can think of why it would be a bad idea to have kernel.bbclass create a kernel-src package? Mar 17 16:32:37 I suppose that toolchain/sdk is typically architecture based and not machine based - that could be an argument Mar 17 16:33:49 tharvey: we build out-of-tree modules with OE Mar 17 16:37:44 03Marcin Juszkiewicz  07org.openembedded.dev * rfa6cd5a3b9 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: added fakeroot 1.12.1 Mar 17 16:52:32 hrw, I'm referring to an sdk/toolchain ie meta-toolchain though, not an OE recipe Mar 17 16:52:56 do you know of any OE based projects that support out of tree modules with an sdk/toolchain? Mar 17 16:53:42 no Mar 17 16:57:42 http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/pattie_maes_demos_the_sixth_sense.html Mar 17 17:27:51 the busybox modprobe patch is pissing me off Mar 17 17:32:13 crofton kill it Mar 17 17:32:32 all I know is it keeps changing Mar 17 17:32:53 I am thinking we should move it into the metadata Mar 17 17:33:25 depending on outside patches risky, espeically when upstream does not version them Mar 17 17:35:08 we should Mar 17 17:45:53 bye Mar 17 17:48:07 Crofton|work: yes, we should definatley move it in. then we can review the changes upstream makes against what we have on occasion... Mar 17 17:48:18 * kergoth still thinks we should have individual package maintainers to do such babysitting Mar 17 17:48:23 I need to shower and eat lunch Mar 17 17:48:33 then I am going to have to fix it :) Mar 17 17:48:43 kergoth, we do not have enough bodies :( Mar 17 17:49:01 Crofton|work: hey Mar 17 17:49:09 denix0, gm Mar 17 17:49:13 well, it's not like we need one person per package, and some packages would just be unmaintained, or maintained by the whole team Mar 17 17:49:35 Crofton|work: was going through the logs - saw you were asking about external toolchain recipe... Mar 17 17:49:38 it would be helpful knowing who to bug for core issues Mar 17 17:49:38 but at least we'd have -some- individual responsibility. the person maintaining the package should be the one trying to work with upstream and push patches up and stuff Mar 17 17:49:41 crofton hehe if you are at it please change the static recipes so its uses the same patches directory as the normal repcipe Mar 17 17:50:00 ok Mar 17 17:50:07 I need to shower and get food Mar 17 17:50:26 Crofton|work: I am using it in Arago, if you want to take a look. but having angstrom-external.inc would be helpful - I was thinking making one... Mar 17 17:50:40 denix0, thanks Mar 17 17:50:46 the question comes up a lot Mar 17 17:50:53 we need a better answer :) Mar 17 17:51:43 yeah, I also had the changes posted to oe-dev several months ago, will need to dig Mar 17 17:51:54 one minute... Mar 17 17:52:43 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/20004 Mar 17 17:54:50 everything there is still valid, except the Arago URL, which is http://arago-project.org (shameful plug :) Mar 17 17:59:34 bye for now Mar 17 18:05:05 anyone used grub on an x86 target as built by OE? it segfaults at some point on a platform I'm working with Mar 17 18:12:50 mwester: thanks for the suggestion Mar 17 18:41:44 03Denys Dmytriyenko  07org.openembedded.dev * r01a393838b 10openembedded.git/classes/base.bbclass: (log message trimmed) Mar 17 18:41:44 base.bbclass: fix base_get_scmbasepath() to look for recipes/ and fall back to packages/ while parsing BBFILES Mar 17 18:41:44 Signed-off-by: Denys Dmytriyenko Mar 17 18:41:44 Acked-by: Mike Westerhof Mar 17 18:41:44 Acked-by: Philip Balister Mar 17 18:41:48 Acked-by: Khem Raj Mar 17 18:41:50 Acked-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz Mar 17 18:42:09 using +1's on the ml as Acked-by, I assume? Mar 17 18:42:19 kergoth: I guess Mar 17 18:42:39 heh :) Mar 17 18:42:48 is it wrong? Mar 17 18:43:05 no, was just curious about process Mar 17 18:43:12 * kergoth hasn't really made much use of acked-by yet Mar 17 18:43:13 I was following http://kerneltrap.org/node/8329 Mar 17 18:43:17 cool Mar 17 18:50:31 zecke: Mar 17 19:04:31 03Denys Dmytriyenko  07org.openembedded.dev * r709c4d66e0 10openembedded.git/packages/ (17443 files in 4783 dirs): (log message trimmed) Mar 17 19:04:31 rename packages/ to recipes/ per earlier agreement Mar 17 19:04:31 See links below for more details: Mar 17 19:04:31 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/21326 Mar 17 19:04:31 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/21816 Mar 17 19:04:35 Signed-off-by: Denys Dmytriyenko Mar 17 19:04:37 Acked-by: Mike Westerhof Mar 17 19:05:51 denix0: hurray Mar 17 19:05:58 * kergoth bets his merges will be very unhappy now though Mar 17 19:06:19 kergoth: sorry Mar 17 19:06:23 :) Mar 17 19:06:34 it needed doing, was just a matter of when Mar 17 19:07:08 CIA seems very slow - everything was pushed over 30 minutes ago... Mar 17 19:08:38 git stash knew that the path changed Mar 17 19:08:54 khem: nice Mar 17 19:08:55 it happily applied the changes it stashed from packages dir to recipes Mar 17 19:09:10 that's impressive, yay for rename detection Mar 17 19:10:16 denix0: I still see base-passwd freesmartphone in packages/ Mar 17 19:11:05 oh they are empty dirs Mar 17 19:12:04 khem: I guess that's because git handles files, not directories... Mar 17 19:12:10 packages/base-passwd/base-passwd-3.5.9 packages/base-passwd/base-passwd-3.5.19 packages/freesmartphone/fso-abyss Mar 17 19:13:09 re Mar 17 19:13:18 * denix0 gets impressed with git on a daily basis... :) Mar 17 19:14:57 Will git fully replace cvs? Mar 17 19:15:22 cvs is dead and buried. use svn or git Mar 17 19:15:31 robtow, I'm told that students at Virgina Tech are taught that CVS is a modern SCM Mar 17 19:15:35 cvs -> svn -> git :) Mar 17 19:15:37 svn is new cvs now :) Mar 17 19:15:39 I can count on you, Chris, for that opinion :-) Mar 17 19:15:50 At my university there is a teacher that teaches RCS. Mar 17 19:15:59 As in, the thing that CVS replaced. Mar 17 19:16:06 heh must be a ghost from past Mar 17 19:16:13 there were some deviations, like bk, mtn etc... :) Mar 17 19:16:14 omg Mar 17 19:16:16 MostAwesomeDude: still better than source unsafe Mar 17 19:16:19 Crofton - do they also teach the use of punched cards? Mar 17 19:16:31 chouimat|work: No, really, at that point, I'd rather just use rsync. Mar 17 19:16:56 no, that was when I was an undergrad Mar 17 19:17:10 we suspect the professor has not done work with real people in a while Mar 17 19:17:15 what some people seems to miss here it's not import which tool they teach it's the concept and the scm notion that is more important Mar 17 19:17:46 I'd prefer to just use git. Mar 17 19:17:50 chouimat|work: But at the same time, the amount of effort required to pry people off CVS and get them into SVN is ridiculous. Mar 17 19:18:06 MostAwesomeDude: took 2 weeks here Mar 17 19:18:18 khem: yeah, you are right - I did pull from another workdir and see all the empty directories in packages/ Mar 17 19:18:25 chouimat|work: You must work with good people. :3 Mar 17 19:19:13 shoot, I hate busybox for changing patches upstream! Mar 17 19:19:16 MostAwesomeDude: sure there is still some scripts that need to be fixed but the convertion was smooth ( about 1 month ago) Mar 17 19:19:17 MostAwesomeDude: rcs can be useful on occasion, i remember a vim plugin that automatically kept backups as you made file modifications via rcs. easy since you dont need to set up a special repo and all Mar 17 19:19:44 kergoth: Okay, that's pretty cool. Mar 17 19:19:45 though the zit project exists for single file management with git now, just a wrapper around altering GIT_DIR and the workdir or so Mar 17 19:23:13 03Denys Dmytriyenko  07org.openembedded.dev * ree7fe8a359 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Mar 17 19:23:13 recipes: fix hardcoded instances of packages/ Mar 17 19:23:13 Signed-off-by: Denys Dmytriyenko Mar 17 19:23:13 Acked-by: Mike Westerhof Mar 17 19:23:13 Acked-by: Philip Balister Mar 17 19:23:15 Acked-by: Khem Raj Mar 17 19:23:17 Acked-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz Mar 17 19:27:40 ok, two clean builds running with the recipes thing Mar 17 19:28:25 Crofton|work: same here, again, after the commits :) Mar 17 19:30:06 heh Mar 17 19:30:24 I think busybox is messed up due to the changing patch Mar 17 19:32:53 argh! why the change from packages to recipes? Mar 17 19:33:00 sakoman_: read the mailing list thread. Mar 17 19:33:22 not on the mailing list - I'll go find it Mar 17 19:33:41 sakoman_: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=709c4d66e0b107ca606941b988bad717c0b45d9b Mar 17 19:33:41 sakoman_: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/21326 Mar 17 19:34:05 sakoman_: and http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/21816 Mar 17 19:34:29 ah you put it in the commit, nice :) Mar 17 19:34:59 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r2cb8f62b6e 10openembedded.git/contrib/angstrom/local.conf: angstrom sample local.conf: update for packages->recipes switch Mar 17 19:35:01 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r50ed4a71bf 10openembedded.git/contrib/angstrom/sort.sh: angstrom food sorter: add more machines Mar 17 19:35:18 kergoth: yeah, I knew I'd get some blame... :) Mar 17 19:35:21 hehe Mar 17 19:37:50 sakoman_, also read the stbale branch stuff Mar 17 19:39:30 greetings! since qtopia4core.bbclass has now gone away, is there anything special a qt recipe should do other than 'inherit qt4e'? Mar 17 19:39:36 Crofton|work: remind me not to pull for a while Mar 17 19:39:43 save me from myself! Mar 17 19:40:27 sakoman_: the rename should be handled by git easily... Mar 17 19:41:03 sakoman_: khem says git stash is able to re-apply your changes after the rename w/o problems Mar 17 19:41:05 I only ask because I changed one of my qt recipes to 'inherit qt4e' and it died :( Mar 17 19:43:56 sakoman_, overo is one of the machines I am doing a post recipe switch build for Mar 17 19:43:57 denix0: I'm sure it will all work out just fine. I have a bunch of work to get done for ESC at the end of this month, so I can't afford breakage Mar 17 19:44:02 Crofton|work: ok, my clean build works fine, as before the commit and before the rename Mar 17 19:44:18 denix, your machine is faster than mine Mar 17 19:44:31 sakoman_: understood. sorry for the inconvenience Mar 17 19:45:42 denix0: I just have to fight my tendancy to use the latest :-) Mar 17 19:45:49 Crofton|work: my build is smaller - it's much more than minimal-image and less than console-image Mar 17 19:45:58 sakoman_, have you tried monitoring the oe-dev list via NNTP and thunderbird or something like that? Mar 17 19:46:02 ah Mar 17 19:46:11 yeah, I am doing gnuradio work atm Mar 17 19:46:22 I will build more stuff Mar 17 19:46:26 Crofton|work: I should, but there just aren't enough hours in the day Mar 17 19:46:31 on the slow machine Mar 17 19:46:32 sakoman_: see the new stable branch discussion on ml Mar 17 19:46:44 sakoman_, I'm thinking at least you can see subject lines Mar 17 19:46:56 I need to try and set it up Mar 17 19:46:57 yeah, you are right Mar 17 19:47:20 btw, is there RSS feed of commits? Mar 17 19:48:03 it appears that the build is looking under tmp/cross/i686 while it should be looking under tmp/cross/armv7a ... Mar 17 19:48:31 morning all Mar 17 19:51:10 Crofton|work: have you forgot to add defconfig for linux-davinci-2.6.28? Mar 17 19:51:57 I'll know in a bit :) Mar 17 19:52:15 Crofton|work: i.e. for not sffsdr boards Mar 17 19:53:15 yeah Mar 17 19:53:21 I'll check Mar 17 19:53:38 probably 2.6.28 should have DEF_PREF -1 for not sffsdr machines Mar 17 19:53:47 we are rearranging the recipes so we can have a stable kernel ofr sffsdr while koen plays with the Leopard Mar 17 19:53:59 denix, do you have an evm? Mar 17 19:54:16 Crofton|work: not right now, but yes Mar 17 19:54:36 I'd like to get all these sorted out so we can claim all these machines work for stable :) Mar 17 20:05:08 re Mar 17 20:05:16 denix0: check cia.cx for rss Mar 17 20:07:33 sakoman_: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/21837 Mar 17 20:07:44 sakoman_: read at least first mail Mar 17 20:09:31 sakoman_: and then answer 'yes, I will join' :D Mar 17 20:09:51 hrw, he's real busy until after ESC Mar 17 20:10:18 ok Mar 17 20:10:30 hrw: did you mean cia.vc? Mar 17 20:10:42 denix0: CIA-2 website Mar 17 20:11:28 yeah, I've seen that before. it is currently unavailable - An internal server error occurred. Please try again later. Mar 17 20:32:26 Crofton|work: sorry, .28 for davinci was added by koen... Mar 17 20:32:38 I know Mar 17 20:32:41 we talked about it Mar 17 20:32:54 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r67cd8abfcb 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/dm355-leopard.conf: dm355-leopard: add more machine features Mar 17 20:32:58 I'll have to fix, or bug him :) Mar 17 20:33:01 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r7449a43cd0 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux-davinci git: make usb and ethernet work Mar 17 20:33:12 Crofton|work: still, it doesn't have defconfig for evm. and you added DEP_PREF=-1 for .27 Mar 17 20:35:12 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r4a92da8691 10openembedded.git/recipes/dsplink/gstreamer-ti_svn.bb: gstreamer-ti: bump SRCREV to 160 Mar 17 20:36:01 denix0, I need to finish a business email, then I'll I'll start looking at it Mar 17 20:36:38 I wonder if busybox 1.13.3 solves the patch problem .... Mar 17 20:49:31 hrw: I read the email, and I think there are a lot of good ideas there. Mar 17 20:50:12 I want to think about it before saying "yes, I will join" because I don't want to promise something that I don't have time to deliver on Mar 17 20:51:02 at the very least we hoep to make people like you's job easier Mar 17 20:51:17 so you have more time to contribute :) Mar 17 20:57:24 ~curse oo.org very badly for being such crap Mar 17 20:57:25 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, oo.org very badly for being such crap ! Mar 17 20:57:41 * hrw|gone wonders what kind of idiots designed it Mar 17 20:58:20 it is impossible to make vertical text and horizontal text on one page Mar 17 21:35:12 Crofton|work: http://pastebin.com/m57f33ca9 Mar 17 21:36:04 Crofton|work: that's temporary solution until .28 is tested on dvevm (I can't do it today) Mar 17 21:36:15 ok Mar 17 21:36:34 I need to teach my wife to flash boards :) Mar 17 21:36:39 and get her to test some of these things Mar 17 21:36:56 :) Mar 17 21:42:40 sorry to mess things up for you, hopefully we get all the davinci stuff in order Mar 17 21:42:46 and the DM355 thing Mar 17 21:43:01 03Denys Dmytriyenko  07org.openembedded.dev * r3b7b721db9 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (linux-davinci_2.6.27.bb linux-davinci_2.6.28.bb): linux-davinci: re-enable .27 for dvevm until .28 is finished/tested Mar 17 21:43:17 Crofton|work: np Mar 17 21:43:44 can you use the defconfig from git for the evm? Mar 17 21:44:48 Crofton|work: probably. but I can't test it right now and I was told .27 used to work fine Mar 17 21:47:58 is someone looking into that opkg memory problem Mar 17 21:54:08 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rbcde4467f8 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (10 files in 3 dirs): linux-davinci git: add vfpe driver for davinci and dm355, enable it in dm355-leopard defconfig Mar 17 22:06:47 denix0: good work. After renaming my build works fine. I thought I had to clean up my temp but its seems not Mar 17 22:07:37 khem: thanks Mar 17 22:09:26 * khem will try uclibc in thumb Mar 17 22:40:57 eve people Mar 17 22:41:51 marvell are donating us sheevaplugs for OE support! Mar 17 22:42:16 sweet Mar 17 22:42:18 and some are being funded elsewhere Mar 17 22:42:43 heh, the beagleboard effect :) Mar 17 22:43:33 theres a freenode channel at #openplug for sheeva-chat Mar 17 22:44:05 anyway i think at least 4-5 of us in here have them coming :) Mar 17 22:44:21 from one place or another! Mar 17 22:45:04 * stefan_schmidt wonders if they are available in .de Mar 17 22:45:43 they have recently allowed more shipping destinations. i wouldnt bank on it fitting in a euro power socket tho :) Mar 17 22:46:12 timtimred: yeah, could life with that. One more device with US only power plug Mar 17 22:47:34 a few people have them already Mar 17 22:49:33 hi, i'm having a little problem with initramfs-image, I have it pxe booting, kernel comes up, appears to mount the filesystem (no vfs panic) but it cannot execut /sbin/init which is in the cpio archive, ive tried init= and rdinit= they both seem to fail.. Mar 17 22:53:09 toggles_ by defauly an initramfs runs /init Mar 17 22:53:14 default Mar 17 22:53:55 you'd need to link to /sbin/init ..... Mar 17 22:53:57 timtimred: yeah, the kernel prinks Faile to execute /sbin/init or /sbin/init.sysv or whatever it passes, so it's reading the command line Mar 17 22:54:42 i append rdinit=/sbin/init and get the appropriate failed to execute, you still think i need to softlink? Mar 17 22:55:30 pass. Mar 17 22:55:31 :) Mar 17 22:55:34 try it Mar 17 22:55:59 timtimred: ok, thanks Mar 17 22:56:01 im sure initramfs is documented in yourkernel/Documentation/ if in doubt ;) Mar 17 23:00:03 toggles: is /sbin/init in your rootfs? look at kexecboot recipe to see how to link with your custom-binary Mar 17 23:01:09 ant__: it's in my initramfs-image.cpio, i thought that was my rootfs? Mar 17 23:01:24 yes in that case Mar 17 23:02:04 ant__: im not 100% convinced the cpio is being mounted as rootfs as it should be there... Mar 17 23:02:17 look at kernel size Mar 17 23:02:45 if properly configured you should see a corresponding bigger size Mar 17 23:03:34 ant__: on disk? Mar 17 23:03:37 ant__: hi Mar 17 23:03:43 hey Jay7 Mar 17 23:03:52 to rule that out being an issue set CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE to your rootfs dir and rebuild the kernel... Mar 17 23:04:11 then its inside it... Mar 17 23:04:35 this is the plain jane out of the box initramfs-image Mar 17 23:04:49 timtimred: can you point me at docs on how to do that? Mar 17 23:04:51 ive not used that :) Mar 17 23:05:07 erm. i read mykernel/Documentation/ Mar 17 23:05:17 some years ago :) Mar 17 23:05:23 the bit on initramfs anyway Mar 17 23:05:27 yeah, i meant via oe, i'm using the oe kernel etc Mar 17 23:05:42 CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE is in your kernel config Mar 17 23:05:56 set it to where tmp/rootfs is and it will build it in Mar 17 23:06:31 off out for a while :) Mar 17 23:06:51 then bitbake -c rebuild linux-blah Mar 17 23:07:14 check for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD too Mar 17 23:07:21 oh, wait i forget OE has magical builtin initramfs stuff Mar 17 23:07:30 some of :-) Mar 17 23:08:23 anyway - back later maybe :) Mar 17 23:11:42 03woglinde  07org.openembedded.dev * ree08c8043f 10openembedded.git/recipes/uclibc/uclibc-0.9.30.1/wrap/uClibc.machine: uclibc: add config for wrap Mar 17 23:12:32 jo re Mar 17 23:13:54 hey woglinde Mar 17 23:19:11 jo ant Mar 17 23:19:19 today I got my new phenom2 Mar 17 23:19:56 woglinde: I envy you Mar 17 23:20:12 woglinde: I have only a Core 2 Mar 17 23:20:21 i7 would be cool though Mar 17 23:21:39 I'd personally also go for i7 instead of phenom... Mar 17 23:22:00 to expensive Mar 17 23:22:03 for me Mar 17 23:23:43 woglinde: yeah Mar 17 23:23:55 that's why I'm still waiting :) Mar 17 23:24:13 how much Mar 17 23:27:05 new board new ram new cpu 350 euros Mar 17 23:27:23 I bought the brand new am3 board from asrock Mar 17 23:27:57 nice Mar 17 23:27:59 how much ram Mar 17 23:28:02 4 gig Mar 17 23:28:08 with fast timings Mar 17 23:28:21 cool Mar 17 23:28:25 but I didnt know that it has heatpipes Mar 17 23:28:33 so I can use dual channel mode Mar 17 23:28:39 because the place is to small Mar 17 23:37:20 woglinde: so now you can build console-image under 2 hours Mar 17 23:37:27 khem hehe Mar 17 23:37:29 will try Mar 17 23:45:22 'nite Mar 17 23:46:09 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r27cebb8871 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Mar 17 23:46:09 openezx-kernel: update to sane version; we're now at 2.6.29-rc8. Fix branch and remove command line args for Mar 17 23:46:09 good. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 18 02:59:56 2009