**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 26 02:59:57 2009 Apr 26 03:00:04 i'd just roll that into my image policy Apr 26 03:00:19 Tartarus: somehow i see that as a role of the image Apr 26 03:00:23 i know it's just me Apr 26 03:00:25 maybe Apr 26 03:00:31 but i like to simplify Apr 26 03:01:42 bbl, time to use laptop to drive the tv :) Apr 26 05:37:24 03Angus Ainslie  07fso/milestone5.5 * ra4a62c446e 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: preferred-om-2008-versions : get a newer version of linphone Apr 26 05:37:34 03Angus Ainslie  07fso/milestone5.5 * r8d5c5a760e 10openembedded.git/recipes/efl1/ (emotion_svn.bb epsilon_svn.bb): epsilon emotion : more SONAME changes Apr 26 06:14:25 03Angus Ainslie  07fso/milestone5.5 * rd7f7083c96 10openembedded.git/recipes/efl1/ (emotion_svn.bb epsilon_svn.bb): epsilon emotion : more SONAME changes Apr 26 06:14:25 03Angus Ainslie  07fso/milestone5.5 * rce53b54a66 10openembedded.git/: emotion : fixup DEBIAN_NOAUTONAME Apr 26 10:16:33 is the notion of "use-flags"/options also used in OE ? like, disable/enable optional things for packages. I haven't been able to locate info about it so far Apr 26 10:47:02 Hello Apr 26 10:48:02 One question, how do I set my local.conf to also build all libraries statically instead of just dynamically?\ Apr 26 10:48:52 Or would I have to do that myself for each package I want statically linked? Apr 26 11:04:10 kimrhh: no, for some reason they are hated around here Apr 26 11:05:10 akheron: well it get's difficult to get it right Apr 26 11:05:28 oh well, 1000 jobs to go then :( Apr 26 11:39:46 akheron, that is the way to insanity Apr 26 11:44:08 i have a embedded system with an lcd on it. which window manger is best suited, i have a processor which runs at 500MHZ Apr 26 11:44:32 i have been using matchbox, i think i would prefer something other than matchbox Apr 26 11:45:06 any suggestions? Apr 26 11:47:16 XFCE? Apr 26 11:49:16 isnt that for a desktop system Apr 26 11:49:19 awesome Apr 26 11:50:38 does it work on a small lcd with qvga Apr 26 11:50:52 ???? Apr 26 11:51:01 xfce Apr 26 11:51:19 hm ah I thought you meant awesome Apr 26 11:51:33 does xfce best suited for a embedded system with a small lcd with qvga resolution Apr 26 12:02:42 mib_st9bst: matchbox is more suitable for devices with small resolution and touchscreen Apr 26 12:03:09 or fvwm2 (after month of reading manual) :) Apr 26 12:04:45 jo ant Apr 26 12:04:56 hey Apr 26 12:05:12 woglinde, ant__ :) Apr 26 12:05:48 * Jay7 finally refused that php project, lost 200 eur/month and get much more free time and relaxation Apr 26 12:06:04 Jay7: I'll take advantage of thewekend and the lack of eye on commits...and do a revolution with zaurus-installkits.. Apr 26 12:06:20 without ML discussion ;-) Apr 26 12:06:22 ant__: I have seen some commits ;) Apr 26 12:06:42 we are just 3-4 people bothering :p Apr 26 12:06:51 seems koen fails with the same wishes ;) Apr 26 12:07:11 well, Z community is small now.. Apr 26 12:07:59 but not smaller than simpad Apr 26 12:08:03 jay7: but matcbox is really simple, is there any document which lists out which wm is suitable for small resolutions. qvga, vga and so on Apr 26 12:19:44 mib_st9bst: I know no one such docs Apr 26 12:25:38 mmm...I receive spam in the commit mailing list... Apr 26 12:25:48 how is it possible? Apr 26 12:26:54 if it was in the normal mailing list I could understand because anyone could subscirbe...but in the commit one... Apr 26 12:29:27 I think that the pma comunity is the worse that I know about... Apr 26 12:29:33 and it is small Apr 26 12:29:44 specially in devellopers Apr 26 12:30:27 but I don't know how big is simpad Apr 26 12:30:54 gnutoo *g* Apr 26 12:30:58 3 devs Apr 26 12:31:12 mr_data mrnice and me Apr 26 12:31:29 ah ok so more or less the same thing...but the big difference is that in the pma community the dev are too busy with others things Apr 26 12:32:11 and for the pma-ng they don't want to release their bootloader crack... Apr 26 12:32:24 s/pma-ng/openpma-ng/ Apr 26 12:32:29 lol Apr 26 12:32:48 they even thought of signing their own images with their crack... Apr 26 12:32:58 (wich is even worse) Apr 26 12:33:30 that means that only them(or the machine vendor) could issues images Apr 26 12:38:13 I wonder if it is possible to change the BD-address/MAC of a BT dongle in software as it can be done with the MAC of a NIC. Anybody knows? My googlefoo failed me. Apr 26 12:44:50 hey CoreDump|home Apr 26 12:45:03 hey there =) Apr 26 12:47:11 CoreDump|home: http://www.siddharthabbineni.com/tech/hardware/change-bluetooth-device-mac-address.html Apr 26 12:49:05 ant__: perfect, thanks. I wonder how I missed that Apr 26 12:52:11 what option do i need in my kenrel build to get more verbosity during boot (and not only in dmesg) Apr 26 12:55:39 eFfeM: I take it you have removed the "quiet" option already? Apr 26 12:56:12 yes, and I get logging but not at the level I would like Apr 26 12:57:01 * CoreDump|home dunnos Apr 26 12:57:19 eFfeM: loglevel= Apr 26 12:57:25 http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt Apr 26 12:58:16 ant__: ah thanks, thought it was a compile time flag Apr 26 12:58:49 well, some DEBUG need to be compiled Apr 26 12:58:49 that's extra Apr 26 14:37:15 does someone knows how it's possible to have spam on a commit list? Apr 26 14:38:40 ah they took the mail address the git account Apr 26 14:38:51 s/git-account/git user account Apr 26 14:39:07 maybe we could only allow the git machine to send mail to this list? Apr 26 14:39:19 s/machine/machines Apr 26 14:47:55 * Tartarus finally subs to the commit ml Apr 26 15:12:16 santamarta, what a strange nick ! Apr 26 15:12:35 re Apr 26 16:08:00 hm what was jeremain nick here Apr 26 16:21:21 gremlin[it]: It's my last name Apr 26 16:22:43 ah nice, italian origins ? Apr 26 16:24:37 Spanish, probably this name comes from jewish or muslim ascendents converted to christianism Apr 26 16:29:26 anyone knows where the bootloader rom for the hx4700 can be downloaded now ?. Its not available on sdgsystems.com Apr 26 16:32:04 hi xora Apr 26 16:32:11 hey Apr 26 16:33:23 hi elena Apr 26 16:35:28 santamarta: what is name of that bootloader? Apr 26 16:35:34 or bootloader rom Apr 26 16:36:55 http://sdgsystems.com/pub/ipaq/hx4700/starterkit Apr 26 16:37:07 from here: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqHx4700HowtoInstallLinux Apr 26 16:41:11 santamarta: look here: http://sdgsystems.net/pub/ipaq/hx4700/starterkit/ Apr 26 16:41:27 in regards to http://sdgsystems.com/pub/moved.txt :) Apr 26 16:41:50 Jay7: thanks. It works now! Apr 26 16:42:06 yesterday where broken Apr 26 16:42:22 santamarta: it is different url :) Apr 26 16:42:28 .com != .net :) Apr 26 16:42:58 yes, but yesterday showed an error Apr 26 16:43:27 ah.. well Apr 26 17:39:07 mmm...how do I handle gnu hash if there are recursive Makefiles and that the main Makefile doesn't admit a LDFLAG parameter Apr 26 17:39:09 ? Apr 26 17:40:06 I bet export won't work Apr 26 17:40:19 how should I patch the main Makefile? Apr 26 17:40:39 to call make with LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS} Apr 26 17:40:43 or something like this? Apr 26 17:41:14 just adding to mke flags doesn't get it? Apr 26 17:41:24 Or are the real compile rules not even going to listen? Apr 26 17:41:49 the main Makefile doesn't listen to LDFLAGS: Apr 26 17:42:25 right Apr 26 17:42:33 but that's not where the linking rules are either, you're saying Apr 26 17:42:41 if the linking rules make use of LDFLAGS as they should Apr 26 17:42:45 then the normal solution should work Apr 26 17:43:24 ok what's the normal solution? Apr 26 17:43:45 sec, lagging due to uploads Apr 26 17:44:11 ok Apr 26 17:45:52 ok, see both of these for the common fixes Apr 26 17:45:59 http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=41d44a71bd864143f0d76c2c15dca4a5d736ac88 Apr 26 17:46:04 http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=d5c1387db0a7258b2dc98884ed7c51a1534cfa95 Apr 26 17:46:08 mmm...didn't saw that: Apr 26 17:46:13 Something similar to one, or the other, will probably do it Apr 26 17:46:15 Depends Apr 26 17:46:24 $(CC) $(LFLAGS) -o szap szap.o ../lib/lnb.o Apr 26 17:46:34 more afk, less here for a while :) Apr 26 17:46:36 see it's LFLAGS and not LDFLAGS Apr 26 17:46:50 Ah, then you need to change it to use the normal var name Apr 26 17:46:54 afk really Apr 26 17:47:03 ok lol Apr 26 17:47:44 at first I read LDFLAGS but it's LFAGS...I could also grep for LFLAGS or define LFLAGS? Apr 26 17:48:36 mmm or I use what's in the commits Apr 26 17:48:41 and it should work anyway Apr 26 17:48:44 phone ringing Apr 26 17:49:51 thanks a lot Apr 26 17:51:55 the first method worked Apr 26 17:52:05 without changing LFLAG Apr 26 17:52:14 s/LFLAG/LFLAGS Apr 26 18:34:40 can i force a recipe to use an older version of a lib ? Apr 26 18:40:30 ins't that done using "PREFFERED_VERSION_package_name = "23.4" Apr 26 18:40:58 could well be not sure if i can have that in a recipe but will give a try, tnx Apr 26 18:41:25 it's more something found in the local.conf or distro Apr 26 18:42:08 at least angstrom tries hard to only have one version of the lib in the packages directory Apr 26 18:43:04 linphone does not seem to like the latest libosio Apr 26 18:43:17 libosip Apr 26 18:43:55 and there is a recipe for 2.2.2 and 2.3.1 Apr 26 18:45:34 sry 3.1.0 Apr 26 18:50:00 join #android-freerunner Apr 26 19:53:52 Crofton: Can you upgrade my patchword account (likewise) to allow me to change patch state? Apr 26 19:54:29 ok Apr 26 19:55:20 it should work ..... Apr 26 19:55:26 I had already done it Apr 26 19:59:17 hello Apr 26 19:59:56 I'm having trouble with update-modules hanging a system i just built.... is this the right place to ask about that? Apr 26 20:02:23 anyone? Apr 26 20:04:48 hi Apr 26 20:05:02 I'm having trouble with libtool-native Apr 26 20:05:16 it breaks with: configure: error: source directory already configured; run "make distclean" there first Apr 26 20:05:20 (in do_configure) Apr 26 20:05:51 Crofton: oh, thanks. I need to get more confident with the patchwork + git workflow. I guess many are using mail scripts or git email patch or somesuch. Apr 26 20:06:09 I tried bitbake libtool-native -c distclean; bitbake libtool-native Apr 26 20:06:17 but the result is the same Apr 26 20:06:58 any idea why would libtool complain it's already configured? Apr 26 20:12:03 Crofton: I expected patchwork also allowed my to add comments, Signed-off-by etc from the web interface. Apr 26 20:12:32 no, it does not do that Apr 26 20:33:25 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r07fb75af0c 10openembedded.git/ (12 files in 4 dirs): Apr 26 20:33:25 python: 2.6.1 -> 2.6.2 Apr 26 20:33:25 fix various packaging issues, add new package python-multiprocessing Apr 26 20:33:26 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r5514a081da 10openembedded.git/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Apr 26 20:33:26 vala: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.1 Apr 26 20:33:27 WARNING: Packages changed name due to (bogus) lib_package being removed Apr 26 21:01:06 * Jay7 -> sleep Apr 27 02:43:21 who manages the OE git server? Apr 27 02:43:30 mickey|away: is it you? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 27 02:59:56 2009