**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 20 02:59:57 2009 Jun 20 06:08:23 good morning! Jun 20 06:08:47 anybody from Paris (or France in general) here? Please raise your hand. Jun 20 08:22:04 hi all, is there a place to put some bash commands or path variable exports in angstrom? (like .bash_profile file) Jun 20 09:22:11 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r4926fc2824 10openembedded.git/recipes/util-linux-ng/ (4 files): Jun 20 09:22:11 util-linux-ng: fix packaging, u-a and replace hardcoded paths Jun 20 09:22:11 * also switch to INC_PR to make Tom happy Jun 20 09:44:53 03Phil Blundell  07org.openembedded.dev * r1b460b4e28 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/ (micro-uclibc.conf micro.conf): micro{-uclibc}: use ${LIBC} instead of PREFERRED_LIBC, per suggestion from Tom Rini Jun 20 09:52:20 morning Jun 20 09:52:52 have anybody any 'marketing' presentation about OE? Jun 20 09:55:19 ah.. presentation from LinuxTag 2008 looking good Jun 20 10:02:50 if "git checkout origin/stable/2009 -b stable/2009" is the command to check out the stable branch for beagleboard, what is the equivilent command for unstable? Jun 20 10:09:45 you'd probably do better to ask in #beagle, it depends on how their repository is arranged. Jun 20 10:26:48 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rc37cfc7c52 10openembedded.git/recipes/util-linux-ng/util-linux-ng.inc: util-linux-ng: only delete bogus symlink, not all swap* binaries for crazy people that have sbindir == base_sbindir Jun 20 11:54:50 hey Jay7 ! Jun 20 11:55:55 bluelightning: hey..already 21st there? Jun 20 11:56:05 hi ant__ Jun 20 11:56:11 no, it's the 20th still Jun 20 11:56:19 in NZ it would be the 21st though Jun 20 11:56:33 :) Jun 20 11:56:47 what happens on the 21st? Jun 20 11:56:55 while you're there..there are a couple of issues plaguing opie-image Jun 20 11:57:02 sure, fire away Jun 20 11:57:12 bluez3 vs. bluez4 mess Jun 20 11:57:21 opkg-cl Jun 20 11:57:30 asking for input during build... Jun 20 11:57:55 can't really say on runtime..this was just buildtime Jun 20 11:59:32 ant__: hello :) Jun 20 12:00:00 * Jay7 will make some presentation of OE on conference Jun 20 12:00:17 bluelightning: Laibsch proposed to edit rootfs_ipk.bbclass as foolows Jun 20 12:00:19 oh god..that old 1975 vinyl I sampled 15 years ago...on youtube... Jun 20 12:00:25 wrong windows... Jun 20 12:00:40 IPKG_ARGS = "-f ${IPKGCONF_TARGET} -force-defaults -o ${IMAGE_ROOTFS} ${@base_conditional("PACKAGE_INSTALL_NO_DEPS", "1", "-nodeps", "", d)}" Jun 20 12:01:02 adding -force-defaults Jun 20 12:01:22 ant__: that makes sense... which package was asking for input, any idea? Jun 20 12:01:26 the underlying problems is bluez though... Jun 20 12:01:33 bluez-utils iirc Jun 20 12:01:35 mom Jun 20 12:01:36 ant__: I'm not really sure what to do about bluez stuff as I mentioned before... I presume gpe-image was fixed already? Jun 20 12:01:50 do you think opie could cope with bluez4? Jun 20 12:02:02 ant__: I don't know, I would guess not though Jun 20 12:02:23 mdavey, the beagle repositiory is the OE repo Jun 20 12:02:30 ehm...actually I did not test bluetooth on runtime lately...lot of things happened (bluez4, dbus, hal,...) Jun 20 12:02:37 neither on gpe Jun 20 12:03:03 but gpe-image builds without the problems that opie-image has? Jun 20 12:03:11 correct Jun 20 12:03:28 does it use bluez4? Jun 20 12:03:30 just grep for bluez in /conf Jun 20 12:04:18 bluelightning: andrea@mizar /oe/org.openembedded.dev/conf $ grep -R blue . | grep PREFERRED Jun 20 12:04:59 that said I have different directories for dev and stable Jun 20 12:11:06 Jay7: if you have a mom, push the patch for kexec-tools_" Jun 20 12:15:26 ant__: hm.. what about patch? Jun 20 12:15:38 I've not done fixing of kexec-tools-2 Jun 20 12:15:52 iirc reverting -#include "elf.h" Jun 20 12:15:52 +#include "../include/elf.h" Jun 20 12:15:57 ah.. Jun 20 12:16:01 and adding some def somewhere Jun 20 12:16:10 at least binaries compile :) Jun 20 12:16:29 well.. imho we should fix linking problems and commit complete fix :) Jun 20 12:16:38 I'll look today Jun 20 12:16:43 thx Jun 20 12:16:46 seems I have some free time Jun 20 12:16:56 ;) Jun 20 12:17:27 but before I should do presentation for conference :) Jun 20 12:17:37 s/do/create/ :) Jun 20 12:18:17 will you translate the OE presentation? Jun 20 12:18:37 I've look at that presentations Jun 20 12:18:55 all presentations are very technical Jun 20 12:19:05 I need more 'marketing' :) Jun 20 12:20:21 re: Jun 20 12:20:28 which presentations? I like technical Jun 20 12:20:44 likewise_: I'm looking over OE presentations flying around :) Jun 20 12:20:51 as always, good args are 'big co like X and Y are using OE' Jun 20 12:21:13 ant__: yes, you are right sales man :) Jun 20 12:21:20 for the 'marketing' audience Jun 20 12:21:36 (usually no-idea of thecnical backgrounds) Jun 20 12:21:44 should eat something.. Jun 20 12:21:52 jay7 how about the FOSDEM poster? Jun 20 12:21:56 will be back later Jun 20 12:22:00 I made it for PURE marketing Jun 20 12:22:08 likewise_: I have seen 2005 and 2007 Jun 20 12:22:13 2009 Jun 20 12:22:18 hm.. Jun 20 12:22:22 your email addr? Jun 20 12:22:25 can you give url? Jun 20 12:22:33 jay4mail at gmail dot com :) Jun 20 12:23:03 well.. afk for some time Jun 20 12:23:11 Sent Jun 20 12:28:35 crofton|work Could you give me the clone and checkout commands you used to get your different stable and dev dirs? Jun 20 12:29:06 http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_started Jun 20 12:29:22 the basic results leaves you with the dev branch Jun 20 12:29:30 I am not a super git guy :) Jun 20 12:29:47 I supect knowledgable people could swithc branches Jun 20 12:29:57 but then you would need to rebuild tmp etc Jun 20 12:30:03 so I use two installs Jun 20 12:31:37 right - so a clone followed by a pull gives dev, and a clone, checkout ... then pull gets stable? Jun 20 12:31:48 something like that Jun 20 12:31:55 the repo has both branches Jun 20 12:32:22 http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi/openembedded/ Jun 20 12:34:33 oh, I get it! "git checkout origin/stable/2009 -b stable/2009" gives stable and presumably "git checkout origin/dev.openembedded.org -b dev.openembedded.org" would give dev Jun 20 12:34:47 something like that Jun 20 12:34:57 I leave testing as an exercise :) Jun 20 12:36:11 or even "git checkout origin/org.openembedded.dev -b org.openembedded.dev" would give dev Jun 20 12:36:23 * mdavey giving that a go Jun 20 12:42:07 hmm . . .openldap is failing on a clean build (from pull last night): http://www.sakoman.net:8000/public/logs/54729.txt Jun 20 12:42:26 anyone else seeing this? ideas? Jun 20 12:42:46 fails on both of my build machines Jun 20 12:44:58 sakoman: it is broken upstream - seen in gentoo. See http://recipes.gobolinux.org/r/?list=OpenLDAP&ver=2.3.39-r2&file=01-ucred.patch Jun 20 12:46:57 likewise_: thanks Jun 20 12:47:19 got it Jun 20 12:47:33 Jay7: too technical? :-) Jun 20 12:47:54 oh.. Jun 20 12:47:59 1 of 1 page :) Jun 20 12:48:10 yeah.. too marketoidal :)) Jun 20 12:54:30 mdavey: thanks Jun 20 12:56:38 np Jun 20 12:57:00 03Klaus Kurzmann  07fso/milestone5.5 * rfef026cc2d 10openembedded.git/recipes/openbmap/openbmap-logger_0.3.0.bb: Jun 20 12:57:00 openbmap-logger: move DEPENDS to RDEPENDS Jun 20 12:57:00 It has no build dependencies... just runtime dependencies. Jun 20 12:57:00 Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Jun 20 13:02:08 omg.. on last conference was peoples who works with SLIND Jun 20 13:02:20 they tries OE but prefers SLIND Jun 20 13:02:33 SLIND? Jun 20 13:02:34 it can be alike 'vim vs emacs party' Jun 20 13:02:40 awesome Jun 20 13:02:47 Crofton: www.slind.org Jun 20 13:04:26 no emails since March though Jun 20 13:04:33 http://lists.slind.org/pipermail/slind-devel/2009-March/thread.html Jun 20 13:06:07 well.. Jun 20 13:06:34 that was OpenInkpot peoples Jun 20 13:07:01 seems I should talk about OE news for latest years :) Jun 20 13:07:56 there's 3 ppl on their channel Jun 20 13:08:12 yeah :) Jun 20 13:08:16 that's good :) Jun 20 13:08:25 we are 'mainstream' :) Jun 20 13:08:45 well, at least have more momentum Jun 20 13:10:35 hehe.. openinkpot peoples are slind core team Jun 20 13:10:37 all two :) Jun 20 13:11:01 wow, slapin is architecture maintainer :) Jun 20 13:11:37 *arm architecture Jun 20 13:33:51 mdavey|work: sadly that patch didn't work, openldap still fails Jun 20 13:34:15 I also tried this: http://www.openldap.org/lists/openldap-bugs/200808/msg00130.html Jun 20 13:35:19 that gets me past the ucred issue, but then the build fails with: config.c:61: error: conflicting types for 'getline' Jun 20 13:50:21 -l:libusb-gnur.a Jun 20 13:50:32 can anyone explain that construct to me? Jun 20 13:50:38 morning all Jun 20 13:55:28 morning Jun 20 13:57:05 mornig chouimat Jun 20 13:57:49 * chouimat lost his job yesterday Jun 20 13:58:09 ouch ! Jun 20 13:58:32 chouimat, sorry to hear that Jun 20 14:00:57 it's ok they found someone with better skills and closed to those needed for the direction the company want to take Jun 20 14:01:07 aka I'm too specialised :) Jun 20 14:01:53 lovely Jun 20 14:02:15 chouimat: that is good chance to find a better job :) Jun 20 14:02:52 do we have anywhere list of companies and products that are using OE? Jun 20 14:03:19 yup and beside I wasn't happy with the direction the product was taking anyway ... and also the fact the my ex coworkers were so noisy ... now I will have peace and quiet for a little while Jun 20 14:03:20 up-to-date list is better :) Jun 20 14:07:54 I've found that list on wiki Jun 20 14:24:49 bummer . . . gamin is broken on a clean build too :-( Jun 20 14:55:26 Hello Jun 20 14:55:47 I'd like to ask what are the next plans for stable Jun 20 14:56:53 there are few things in dev that would be nice to have in like: micro, micro-uclibc, libc common files and definitions Jun 20 16:40:58 hey Jun 20 16:41:10 will OE have a booth at "linuxtag" next week in berlin? Jun 20 16:46:04 mirko: yes Jun 20 16:56:45 Is there any variable or setting that prevents files from being added to a package even if it is explicitly included (with full path) in FILES_${PN} ? Jun 20 16:57:02 I have a dbus .service that just wont get included Jun 20 16:57:30 s/.service/.service file Jun 20 17:58:28 good morning Jun 20 18:00:50 hi florian Jun 20 18:11:43 hmm . . . with a clean build on a fresh pull, openldap and gamin both fail to build Jun 20 18:12:04 both failures seem to be related to srtuct ucred missing in Glibc headers Jun 20 18:12:32 is anyone looking at this issue? Jun 20 18:25:43 fwiw, updating the gamin recipe to revision 0.1.10 seems to fix the problem Jun 20 18:26:39 I'll try bumping the openldap revision a bit later today Jun 20 20:15:48 hi Jun 20 20:15:53 poor elvis Jun 20 20:16:05 hey Jun 20 20:16:07 ? Jun 20 20:16:21 ant the posts on the mailinglist Jun 20 20:16:24 ah, the java-guy... Jun 20 20:16:37 now he mixed autotools_stage nad do_stage Jun 20 20:17:16 args I am little bit sick Jun 20 20:17:23 something like cold Jun 20 20:39:27 I could use some help getting libtar packaged (this is my bb file) http://paste-it.net/public/i67c252/ (recipes/libtar/libtar_1.2.11.bb) is fails because oe tries very hard to put a aclocal.m4 file in the root directory. perhaps I should not use the autotools? Jun 20 20:40:32 keejs does libtar really use autotools? Jun 20 20:41:17 aclocal.m4 is normaly generated and shouldnt shipped Jun 20 20:41:38 if it is shipped and no other dir for m4 macros is around Jun 20 20:41:45 it contains a configure script that "works" it does contains a autoconf directory with the aclocal.m4 stuff Jun 20 20:41:52 consider that ther authors didnt understand autotools Jun 20 20:42:12 so do I ! Jun 20 20:42:30 please switch do_stage to inherit autotools autotools_stage Jun 20 20:43:32 http://paste-it.net/public/u006bff/ (it goes wrong before running the configure) Jun 20 20:44:52 ah still this PSG_MODULE foo Jun 20 20:45:01 woglinde: I don't know how to do that Jun 20 20:45:09 where can I download the tar.gz? Jun 20 20:45:40 ftp://ftp.feep.net/pub/software/libtar/libtar-1.2.11.tar.gz Jun 20 20:46:36 args Jun 20 20:46:42 cant believe it Jun 20 20:46:48 an other autotools abuse Jun 20 20:47:43 the configure.ac defines a AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR to be the "autoconf" directory where this PSG_MODULE is defined in a aclocal.m4 Jun 20 20:48:27 keesj okay Jun 20 20:48:35 make the fowllowing patch Jun 20 20:48:50 copy aclocal.m4 to psg.m4 Jun 20 20:49:00 remove the first two lines Jun 20 20:50:56 yes Jun 20 20:51:59 still searching Jun 20 20:52:08 the line for setting local m4 dir Jun 20 20:52:10 mom Jun 20 20:52:18 you have to edit configure.ac too Jun 20 20:52:26 but I think you want to add that directory to the search path Jun 20 20:54:18 ah there it is Jun 20 20:54:30 AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([autoconf]) Jun 20 20:55:03 the AUX dir only tells autotools where to but genereated files Jun 20 20:55:07 like aclocal.m4 Jun 20 20:55:22 its okay to but both in the same dir Jun 20 20:55:49 *sigh* Jun 20 20:56:04 why the heck the dont take the one day to read the doku Jun 20 20:56:15 that would make there lifes easiere Jun 20 20:57:13 now boxing Jun 20 20:57:15 kltischko Jun 20 20:57:19 klitschko Jun 20 20:58:22 Thanks for the help, Jun 20 21:04:38 is it working? Jun 20 21:05:10 no, I think I need to include the files somewhere now Jun 20 21:05:24 ??? Jun 20 21:05:33 maybee I will later make a patch Jun 20 21:06:25 http://paste-it.net/public/f5d7fa6/ (this is my current patch) Jun 20 21:13:35 pb___, nice email about the header location Jun 20 21:14:10 * Crofton|work is still annoyed fann installs differently on Fedora than Debian though :) Jun 20 21:15:43 it's going better the diff did not rename the file property so I am at the next problem but going to bed .. http://paste-it.net/raw/public/a6e5738/ Jun 20 21:19:52 03Andrea Adami  07org.openembedded.dev * r88a723232b 10openembedded.git/recipes/kexecboot/kexecboot.inc: (log message trimmed) Jun 20 21:19:52 kexecboot: sanitize recipe Jun 20 21:19:52 - recipe_sanity: RDEPENDS should not be set, but is set to 'kexec-static' Jun 20 21:19:52 - Phil Blundell:" Jun 20 21:19:52 - In almost all cases the app ought to be setting RDEPENDS_${PN}, not Jun 20 21:19:54 - RDEPENDS. Otherwise the documentation, debug data and suchlike will Jun 20 21:19:58 - end up getting the same dependency, which is seldom useful. Jun 20 21:34:27 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rc71a5d2885 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc: angstrom: inheric recipe_sanity by default Jun 20 21:34:27 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rabbbb26e6a 10openembedded.git/classes/image.bbclass: image bbclass: fix logic buglet in lingua code Jun 20 21:34:28 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rbf3ca542b4 10openembedded.git/recipes/clutter/ (clutter-0.9_git.bb clutter-gst-0.9_git.bb clutter-gst.inc): clutter(-gst)-0.9: fix GLES build Jun 20 21:34:29 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rcf1b579d58 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.org:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Jun 20 21:34:32 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r33f2b9be9d 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-omap pm 2.6.29: tweak versioning, attempt to get sound working for beagle Jun 20 21:36:37 woglinde, hi Jun 20 21:36:53 woglinde, I hope the kernel will work soon...it need to be lzma-ed Jun 20 21:48:28 hi, hrw said : "I am also tired of explaining to users why tmp/rootfs should not be used as nfsroot." ...why? and what should be used instead? Jun 20 21:49:24 Something functional :) Jun 20 21:49:37 tmp/rootfs isn't a functional rootfs, permissions are all wrong Jun 20 21:49:55 You need to take the image tar*, extract and use Jun 20 21:56:40 ok thanks a lot Jun 20 22:12:27 Tartarus: ping Jun 20 22:27:12 pong Jun 20 22:27:39 hi tom Jun 20 22:27:49 question about naming... Jun 20 22:27:53 ok Jun 20 22:28:25 how would you call a recipe statically built against klibc? just *-static or *-klibc-static ? Jun 20 22:28:56 klibc-static Jun 20 22:29:26 fine, as I thought :) Jun 20 22:29:40 pushed Jun 20 22:29:57 03Andrea Adami  07org.openembedded.dev * r0219e9fd2f 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (4 files in 3 dirs): kexec-tools: rename static recipes built against klibc Jun 20 22:30:40 Tartarus: pls tell me if you see obvious errors Jun 20 22:34:44 k Jun 20 23:31:01 Tartarus, hi, I've a problem with the elf load address of the kernel: Could not load 168.0.0.2:vmlinux: Section would load outside available DRAM...can we fix the load address for elf files? Jun 20 23:38:07 I'll go bye **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 21 03:00:04 2009