**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 08 02:59:57 2009 Sep 08 05:18:41 Hey any one Know about altium nanoboard NB2 kit,we are getting this instrument from our sponsor and we are expected to do project using this board,can any one help me regarding deciding my final year project using altium nanoboard? Sep 08 05:29:16 Bunty, what are you studying? Sep 08 05:29:45 and what are you interested in? they could both influence the project you choose Sep 08 05:47:37 heh, so yea Sep 08 05:47:45 exim + autotools is a definite nogo Sep 08 05:51:31 who's idea was autotools anyway. If i ever meet that guy/girl, i'm gunna punch him/her! Sep 08 05:52:11 http://wiki.exim.org/Exim5/autoconf: Somebody once tried to autoconf Exim, but found it too big a job. Sep 08 05:52:15 ;-] Sep 08 05:52:27 maybe the dapper sec. patches to postfix 2.12 will suffice Sep 08 05:52:45 really i just want local delivery, for things like mdadm output Sep 08 05:53:09 all of the 'tiny' mta/mdas want a relay host Sep 08 06:15:59 hmm. there's no easy way to tell ipkg what dir to use as temp? Sep 08 06:25:08 heh gettin close with postfix Sep 08 06:25:34 opkg does have a -t (--tmp-dir) option Sep 08 06:25:38 got rid of the ypclnt.h junk for uclibc via sys_defs.h Sep 08 06:34:51 direct calls to gcc in a couple Makefile.in seems to be the problem Sep 08 06:38:44 anyone have an idea of how samba 3.x pulls in libavahi-client and dbus? Sep 08 07:05:13 cool, postfix builds cleanly w/most of the dapper patches + a uclibc #undef HAVE_NIS patch i whipped up Sep 08 07:37:21 Subject: Cron echo "error" Sep 08 07:37:22 :-) Sep 08 07:37:56 m4t: you like getting spammed by cron? ;) Sep 08 07:37:57 morning Sep 08 07:38:08 yes it is my favourite pastime Sep 08 07:38:13 i want a gigabyte mail spool Sep 08 07:38:18 lol Sep 08 07:39:31 postfix isn't using too much resources, but i wish there was something monolithic and tailored to embedded systems Sep 08 07:50:05 m4t, if you want gigabyte of mail, just give me your email addr, I'll forward you some previous emails from nigeria Sep 08 07:50:20 anyone else here running recent kernels with pxa270 and SD? Sep 08 07:50:47 I'm getting weird kernel hangs (just stops responding to anything after some I/O on SD) Sep 08 07:51:33 morning Sep 08 07:52:41 hi hrw Sep 08 08:04:57 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r3a5ed90ae5 10openembedded.git/recipes/mplayer/ (files/vo_omapfb.c mplayer_svn.bb): mplayer: bump SRCREV Sep 08 08:08:11 czr: 2.6.31-rc8 had that problem for me. fixed in -r9 Sep 08 08:08:39 sorry, may not be the same problem you're talking about Sep 08 08:08:54 the hang I saw was during bootup, and caused by udev dying Sep 08 08:10:05 hyc, yeah, mine is present already from .30. also in 31rc8 Sep 08 08:10:12 going to test .29 next, .26 works ok. Sep 08 08:17:54 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rba7d5bb676 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs: bump mplayer SRCREV Sep 08 08:30:08 hi all Sep 08 08:31:44 hi florian Sep 08 08:36:48 hrw, hi Sep 08 08:38:35 hrw, I've tried your suggestion for compiling gtk code but I'm getting "segmentatin fault" at the first starting of program and after that, every time "illegal instruction" again... Sep 08 08:41:09 hrw, are you using mini2440 or samsung processor? Sep 08 08:43:08 yay. .29 seems to work. Sep 08 08:44:17 sx: I am using i.mx31 (armv6), omap3530 (armv7a) most of time Sep 08 08:44:46 sx: have also stn8815 (armv5), at91sam9263 (armv5), ep3901 (armv4t) Sep 08 08:45:52 hrw, on atmel stuff everything was good with compiling but here I have difficulties on armv4t Sep 08 08:46:17 hrw, have you tried to compile gtk code for ep3901 ? Sep 08 08:48:21 sx: edb9301 lacks screen so I do not use it Sep 08 08:54:33 hrw, I do the following but my program does not work.. I can understand why? /home/eray/OE/angstrom-dev/cross/armv4t/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -mcpu=arm920t src/gtk.c -o gtk `cat /home/eray/OE/libsv4.txt` Sep 08 08:55:13 and `/home/eray/OE/angstrom-dev/staging/i686-linux/usr/bin/pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+` says "sh: gtk-config: command not found" Sep 08 08:55:49 you need to set PKGCONFIGPATH (var is something like that) Sep 08 08:57:21 good morning Sep 08 08:57:34 hi Marco Sep 08 08:58:06 hrw, I don't thing that the problem is related to the variable. Sep 08 08:58:38 you are sure that pkg-config do not use your host stuff? Sep 08 08:59:18 hrw, yep. because of that I've written all paths in a txt file Sep 08 08:59:22 ok Sep 08 09:24:35 I Sep 08 09:24:48 I'm looking for solution for one application Sep 08 09:25:22 is there some USB touchscreen 19" or 22" supported in Linux? Sep 08 09:55:03 mckoan: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/download/0001-fakeroot-update-to-fakeroot-1.12.4-1.12.1-is-not-ava.patch - will you Ack it? Sep 08 10:01:20 hrw: I don't see it in ML Sep 08 10:01:58 florian: good morning Sep 08 10:05:24 03Otavio Salvador  07stable/2009 * rb4c46d5e76 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Sep 08 10:05:24 fakeroot: update to fakeroot 1.12.4 (1.12.1 is not available anymore) Sep 08 10:05:24 Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador Sep 08 10:05:24 Acked-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz Sep 08 10:05:24 Acked-by: Koen Kooi Sep 08 10:05:34 mckoan: because ML server is on the move still Sep 08 10:06:04 hrw: so I suppose I had no other way to sig-off it Sep 08 10:06:27 mckoan: you could say "I ack it" Sep 08 10:06:56 hrw: here in chat? Sep 08 10:07:38 or by mail to me Sep 08 10:08:22 03Graeme Gregory  07stable/2009 * r3f6d9588b5 10openembedded.git/recipes/qemu/qemu-native.inc: Sep 08 10:08:22 qemu-native.inc : force qemu native to use our C/LDFLAGS so that you don't need the required dev packages installed on host. Use our OE versions Sep 08 10:08:22 Signed-off-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz Sep 08 10:08:22 Acked-by: Koen Kooi Sep 08 10:08:23 uh, ok. I thought it was required something like a formal signature. BTW I ack Sep 08 10:09:43 http://patchwork.openembedded.org/project/openembedded/list/?state=*&q=oe%2CSTABLE still need review Sep 08 10:10:15 bb in few Sep 08 10:25:16 re Sep 08 10:31:18 hi Liam Sep 08 10:44:15 mckoan: will you Ack it? http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/download/0001-base.bbclass-introduce-OE-source-mirror-network-as-l.patch Sep 08 11:04:14 03Marcin Juszkiewicz  07org.openembedded.dev * r4cb31399a0 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-kirkwood_2.6.30.5.bb: linux-kirkwood: added 2.6.30.5 tested on sheevaplug Sep 08 11:06:43 oooh, nice, updated sheeva :-) Sep 08 11:12:29 looks like 3999 files in my DL_DIR are also in checksums.ini Sep 08 11:13:50 XorA: I do irc from sheeva Sep 08 11:14:00 XorA: but with self-built irssi Sep 08 11:16:18 hrw: I am planning to upgrade to that sort of setup Sep 08 11:16:27 hrw: at moment sheever runs my torrents Sep 08 11:17:37 I planned to run bitbake on it but it failed Sep 08 11:17:42 Hi, all! Sep 08 11:17:47 hi slapin Sep 08 11:18:47 hrw: is Sheeva available to Russia somewhere? I found no seller with such delivery. Might you know some? Sep 08 11:19:42 slapin: order at globalscale Sep 08 11:19:49 iirc there is no other distributor Sep 08 11:21:09 hrw: globalscale does not have Russia in list. I see that OpenRD is more publically available, but I can't spend $140 on it at the moment. Sep 08 11:21:52 bad luck Sep 08 11:22:19 yeah, too bad for me Sep 08 11:22:43 I had 3 sheevas some time ago but sold two of them Sep 08 11:23:18 so I've lost my chance Sep 08 11:24:12 slapin: ordering from globalscale to .pl and then sending to .ru would cost too much I think Sep 08 11:25:28 I think the same, so I better look closer to OpenRD. Is there any other fast ARM boards currently available? Except Beagle, Sheeva and OpenRD? Sep 08 11:25:57 no idea Sep 08 11:26:33 if you want raw integer cpu speed then kirkwood based will beat omap3 Sep 08 11:28:25 I think almost anything will beat omap3 these days if not NEON/DSP specific. Sep 08 11:29:47 slapin: not quite - there are lot of arm cpus which are slower Sep 08 11:30:49 Most of the Atmel stuff, for example. Sep 08 11:31:11 or s3c24xx Sep 08 11:31:38 Not sure how s3c64xx stacks up with OMAP, though. Sep 08 11:31:52 no idea too Sep 08 11:31:52 well, atmels are ten times cheaper than omap3, so they win on speed/price value. Sep 08 11:32:08 i.mx31/5/7 are probably also slower Sep 08 11:32:57 03Marcin Juszkiewicz  07org.openembedded.dev * ra72b72a409 10openembedded.git/contrib/source-checker/oe-source-mirror-build.py: Sep 08 11:32:57 source-checker: added small script to generate list of files for mirroring Sep 08 11:32:57 oe-source-mirror-build.py compares checksums stored in checksums.ini Sep 08 11:32:57 with files in DL_DIR and outputs list of good ones. Such list can be Sep 08 11:32:58 used for populating local OE sources mirror. Sep 08 11:33:21 Laibsch: something for you Sep 08 11:33:58 thank you Sep 08 11:34:06 is it changed from the version I tested? Sep 08 11:34:07 by the way, how hard is to order kirkwood SoCs in smaller quantities for custom projects? I get atmels on regular basis. Sep 08 11:34:17 Laibsch: yes, fixed Sep 08 11:34:21 nice Sep 08 11:34:23 thank you Sep 08 11:34:28 np Sep 08 11:34:36 slapin: no idea Sep 08 11:36:11 slapin: but kirkwood + pcie graphics (there should be something for x1 links) could be interesting Sep 08 11:38:27 yeah, these would make total replacement for my desktop system. Sep 08 11:38:54 There's the ARM nettop stuff floating around too. Sep 08 11:39:38 also, 2xSATA feature is tasty. Sep 08 11:48:05 * czr almost ordered the europlug-one Sep 08 11:48:12 anyone know of a reseller of those within eu? Sep 08 13:00:48 where could I ask questions regarding kernel framebuffer stuff (actually fbdev and fbcon relationships)? Sep 08 13:24:35 morning Sep 08 13:42:18 have to go Sep 08 13:48:35 03Florian Boor  07org.openembedded.dev * r9ec5b998de 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: add missing checksum Sep 08 13:51:22 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r462349b784 10openembedded.git/recipes/x-load/ (4 files in 4 dirs): x-load: git has moved, update SRCREV and remove obsolete patches Sep 08 13:51:23 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r0617b085eb 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.org:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Sep 08 15:03:17 re Sep 08 15:42:08 morning Sep 08 15:42:36 gm kergoth Sep 08 15:44:55 hi kergoth Sep 08 15:50:01 03Marcin Juszkiewicz  07org.openembedded.dev * re9ee201981 10openembedded.git/recipes/firmwares/ (3 files in 3 dirs): marvel-sdio-fw: added firmware for WiFi powered BUGBase Sep 08 16:56:16 03Marcin Juszkiewicz  07org.openembedded.dev * r51ddada3f4 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux-kirkwood: use proper branch for 2.6.30 (thx Koen for spotting) Sep 08 17:50:21 anyone ever seen a package_do_write_ipk failure where the install/ dir doesn't exist? specifically, in this case, -locale-rm Sep 08 17:50:31 * kergoth hasn't run into this one before Sep 08 17:50:57 may be allow empty packages Sep 08 17:51:46 it's a stock recipe though, like 3 lines, all default package variables Sep 08 17:57:15 03Jan Lübbe  07org.openembedded.dev * re492707aff 10openembedded.git/recipes/libdbi/ (libdbi.inc libdbi_0.7.2.bb libdbi_0.8.3.bb): libdbi: disable building docs (would need docbook/openjade) Sep 08 17:57:16 03Jan Lübbe  07org.openembedded.dev * r3355a70069 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): libconfig-general-perl: add recipe Sep 08 17:57:16 03Jan Lübbe  07org.openembedded.dev * rf965b272a8 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/perl/libsnmp-session-perl_1.12.bb): libsnmp-session-perl: add recipe Sep 08 17:57:17 03Jan Lübbe  07org.openembedded.dev * rec7970eea4 10openembedded.git/recipes/libdbi/ (libdbi-drivers.inc libdbi-drivers_0.8.3-1.bb): libdbi-drivers: set libdir for libdbi and don't build docs Sep 08 17:57:19 03Jan Lübbe  07org.openembedded.dev * r77e0f4c204 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libio-pty-perl libio-stty-perl: add recipes Sep 08 17:57:48 kergoth: which package is it Sep 08 17:58:01 just a tiny recipe for GNU hello, version 2.2 Sep 08 17:58:10 hmm Sep 08 17:58:16 created it in the unit test for the version lockdown implementation i did for work Sep 08 17:58:18 very strange. Sep 08 17:58:21 * kergoth tries to repro Sep 08 18:13:35 I am adding beta 2.20 binutils recipes which I will convert to 2.20 once it is releases Sep 08 18:13:43 it will give some testing Sep 08 18:17:16 Does anyone know where the omap3-sgx-modules_1.3.13.1832.bb recipe is? Apparently, libgles-omap3_3.00.00.09.bb requires it, but it doesn't seem to be in the main dev branch. Sep 08 18:17:40 pb_: would you happen to know if the position of --as-needed within the ld commandline affects things? Sep 08 18:17:54 kergoth: it does Sep 08 18:18:09 if you have duplicates Sep 08 18:18:13 and order matters Sep 08 18:18:40 i assume that only libs listed after it will be linked as needed? Sep 08 18:20:12 yes Sep 08 18:20:31 and beaware as-needed might not work well with binutils < 2.18 Sep 08 18:21:23 k Sep 08 18:21:31 man Sep 08 18:21:43 going to have to write a script to check for -l's before --as-needed on link lines, in the compile logs Sep 08 18:22:08 and you might see undefined symbols Sep 08 18:22:24 which came thru the libraries pulled in due to indirect deps Sep 08 18:22:33 which linker would not load with as-needed Sep 08 18:22:37 * kergoth nods Sep 08 18:22:41 and also at runtime Sep 08 18:22:51 well, the linker should be smart enough to catch those, unless it's dlopening Sep 08 18:23:40 * kergoth grumbles Sep 08 18:24:04 and linking order will matter Sep 08 18:24:21 it usually does :) Sep 08 18:24:23 linker will only look for symbols in current or following libraries and objects Sep 08 18:24:44 without as needed it should not Sep 08 18:25:07 meh Sep 08 18:25:28 my missing dependency checker will want me to add explicit deps on things it really isn't using directly, without --as-needed Sep 08 18:25:54 hmm Sep 08 18:26:14 readelf -d will show DT_NEEDED flags Sep 08 18:26:59 yeah, that's what shlibdeps does to add them to the rdepends of the package Sep 08 18:27:21 i'm just checking to see if the recipe actually depends on the things it ends up rdepending on Sep 08 18:27:42 to catch optional deps that will change the binaries due to build order Sep 08 18:27:57 * kergoth mutters Sep 08 18:41:54 re Sep 08 18:46:38 hi florian Sep 08 19:48:24 03Stanislav Brabec  07org.openembedded.dev * rd5345f88b5 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (18 files in 12 dirs): Sep 08 19:48:24 more files: Fixed unpack dependencies on unzip-native, see: Sep 08 19:48:24 * http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2009-August/013505.html Sep 08 19:48:24 * http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2009-September/013620.html Sep 08 19:56:48 man i can't wait till OE and mvl6 switch to requiring python 2.5/2.6 Sep 08 20:16:25 heh Sep 08 20:37:40 hm today I learned about conky Sep 08 21:50:42 * kergoth experiments with a prototype variable type checker Sep 08 21:50:50 hi kergoth Sep 08 21:51:05 ERROR: TEST_TYPECHECK_BOOL_FAIL: 'somevalue' is not a valid value for type boolean. Sep 08 21:51:07 heh :) Sep 08 21:51:08 hey woglinde Sep 08 21:51:40 hey kergoth Sep 08 21:51:43 hallo woglinde Sep 08 21:52:56 kergoth: are you following the endianness saga? Sep 08 21:53:06 nope, whats going on? Sep 08 21:53:32 well, atm le archs are getting be builds... Sep 08 21:53:38 :/ Sep 08 21:53:46 ant__: I have posted a patch Sep 08 21:54:01 ant__: and its only one case i.e. xscale Sep 08 21:54:05 its not a generic problem Sep 08 21:54:12 I'm always lucky... Sep 08 21:54:14 hi ant Sep 08 21:54:16 hi khem Sep 08 21:55:08 khem: I confess I cleaned my gmail account...perhaps I missed it Sep 08 21:59:07 ant__: it has not made to the ml it seems I just resent Sep 08 21:59:12 woglinde: hi Sep 08 21:59:30 khem: thx Sep 08 22:00:48 doh..the recipes/mini-init script is still around...paternity test failed...removal candidate? Sep 08 22:01:17 (I know it's wl-500g) Sep 08 22:03:08 * ant__ has developed a special hate vs. cruft on filesystem during years Sep 08 22:08:00 oh is something wrong with the mailing list ? Sep 08 22:08:12 the mails I send dont seem to deliver Sep 08 22:08:14 he Sep 08 22:08:21 I used the same address forever Sep 08 22:08:31 hmmm Sep 08 22:08:33 so it has to be something on the server side Sep 08 22:08:40 let me check Sep 08 22:08:46 I think email goes through ltg Sep 08 22:08:51 and that just changed Sep 08 22:08:54 crap Sep 08 22:09:01 sorry guys, I had not thought about that Sep 08 22:09:45 Crofton|work: np, we appreciate very much your consolidation efforts Sep 08 22:10:57 http://khem.pastey.net/124869 Sep 08 22:12:28 ok, hopefully that fixes email in a while Sep 08 22:12:44 I need to work with someone to make it so an mx record works Sep 08 22:13:30 the current config is funky Sep 08 22:13:43 lists.oe.org is CANME's to oe.org Sep 08 22:13:52 I tried an mx and it did not work Sep 08 22:20:49 Crofton|work: look here for A vs. CNAME http://www.digitalpoint.com/lists/46720.html Sep 08 22:21:07 I know the dif Sep 08 22:21:23 I think email is set to only take mail from oe.org not lists.oe.org Sep 08 22:24:39 Crofton: yep...http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=mx%3alists.openembedded.org Sep 08 22:38:37 kergoth: I'm testing again the 2 patches wrt pstaging I sent to tinderbox. These needs a rebuild from scratch to obtain the good staging- ipk's. Sep 08 22:39:20 iirc you have similar patches in you queue, isn't? Sep 08 23:50:11 'nite **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 09 02:59:56 2009