**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 01 02:59:56 2009 Oct 01 03:53:37 03Angus Ainslie  07shr/import * r6fa8d26d10 10openembedded.git/recipes/python/ (pyring_1.1.9.bb pyring_1.1.8.bb): pyring: update to new version and remove old versions Oct 01 05:54:57 is there some problem if this note comes Oct 01 05:55:09 multiple providers are available for virtual/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc (external-toolchain, gcc-iphone-cross, gcc-cross) Oct 01 05:55:23 is there some problem if this note comes Oct 01 05:55:25 ??? Oct 01 06:00:34 03Klaus Kurzmann  07shr/import * re04dfd274a 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'shr/import' of ssh+git://git@git.openembedded.net/openembedded into shr/import Oct 01 06:00:35 03Klaus Kurzmann  07shr/import * rec10264374 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/tzdata/tzdata_2009m.bb): Oct 01 06:00:35 tzdata: update to 2009n Oct 01 06:00:35 Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Oct 01 06:20:50 Hi Oct 01 06:21:08 What is bluez-dtl1-workaround, and why is it not build by default? Oct 01 06:35:17 How to make cross compilation toolchain for mips architecture? Oct 01 06:39:16 hello anybody.. Oct 01 06:51:16 good morning Oct 01 07:35:54 What is bluez-dtl1-workaround, and why is it not build by default? Oct 01 08:04:14 jo Oct 01 08:07:08 morning Oct 01 08:07:19 hi xora Oct 01 08:07:38 hey woglinde Oct 01 08:09:19 hi florian Oct 01 08:12:16 woglinde, hi I bet the policy is to push kernel patches upstream Oct 01 08:12:42 gnutoo? Oct 01 08:12:44 because I've an htc dream working under SHR...with tslib Oct 01 08:12:56 and I had to modify the touchscreen driver Oct 01 08:13:17 (the msm_fb has also some modifications not by me) Oct 01 08:13:29 sgh: the DESCRIPTION is fairly self-explanatory. Oct 01 08:13:52 morning pb Oct 01 08:15:17 hi woglinde Oct 01 08:15:24 03Klaus Kurzmann  07shr/import * r8c4da97928 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-shr-versions.inc: Oct 01 08:15:24 preferred-shr-versions: update preferred tzdata Oct 01 08:15:24 Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Oct 01 08:15:37 hi XorA Oct 01 08:17:04 good morning Oct 01 08:19:32 03Robert Schuster  07org.openembedded.dev * r62f36dcfad 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Added hotspot express and icedtea 1.6.1 sources. Oct 01 08:22:58 oh my god Oct 01 08:23:00 PSU suffered a power problem on 2009-9-29 which was not covered by the UPS. The /home filesystem on annarchy.freedesktop.org was destroyed and could not be recovered by fsck. We recreated the filesystem and user directories, so things should be working again, but all contents are lost. Oct 01 08:33:11 I have NFS base-image working with my kernel. but I used init=/bin/sh and I delete etc dir. But I'd like to start angstrom (base image) in a normal way. There is a guide somewhere to reduce etc as small as possible ? Oct 01 08:36:58 hey can anyone tell me how to enable svn fetching Oct 01 08:36:59 ? Oct 01 08:37:11 i tried to do it in servers file Oct 01 08:37:16 but nthng is happening Oct 01 08:48:11 woglinde: doh, obviously backing up is not a freedesktop project Oct 01 08:48:18 florian: good morning Oct 01 08:48:27 hey pb_ Oct 01 08:48:44 recalcati: if you want something "as small as possible" then angstrom may not be the best starting point. Oct 01 08:49:35 twilight look at other recipes Oct 01 08:50:08 disk failure is a good excuse to get rid of all that shit you been keeping for no real reason Oct 01 08:50:09 woglinde there are many recipes failing in svn fetch Oct 01 08:50:19 i'm trying tou se svn checkout Oct 01 08:50:24 it is working fime though Oct 01 08:50:32 fine* Oct 01 08:50:33 twillight which one? Oct 01 08:50:38 ffmpeg svn works Oct 01 08:53:14 i dint try any sort of that thing Oct 01 08:53:33 i will paste the erro here once Oct 01 08:53:35 wait Oct 01 08:54:10 NOTE: package eglibc-2.10-r6.1: task do_fetch: Started NOTE: fetch http://www.o-hand.com/~richard/poky/sources/eglibc-2_10_svn.eglibc.org_.branches_8873_.tar.gz NOTE: fetch http://mirrors.openembedded.org//eglibc-2_10_svn.eglibc.org_.branches_8873_.tar.gz NOTE: fetch http://sources.openembedded.org//eglibc-2_10_svn.eglibc.org_.branches_8873_.tar.gz NOTE: fetch http://pokylinux.org/sources/eglibc-2_10_svn.eglibc.org_.branches_8873_.t Oct 01 08:54:25 NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: Fetch command export HOME=/net/wintermute/vol1/home/anish; export ftp_proxy=ftp://wwwgate.ti.com:80/; export http_proxy=http://wwwgate.ti.com:80/; export PATH=/net/wintermute/vol1/home/anish/oetmp/staging/i686-linux/usr/bin/armv7a-none-linux-gnueabi:/net/wintermute/vol1/home/anish/oetmp/staging/i686-linux/usr/bin/armv7a-none-linux-gnueabi:/net/wintermute/vol1/home/anish/oetmp/staging/i686-linux/usr/s Oct 01 08:54:41 svn: Unknown hostname 'svn.eglibc.org' Oct 01 08:54:52 this is the erro i'm getting Oct 01 08:55:13 erk another TI firewall suffereer Oct 01 08:55:19 yeah Oct 01 08:55:24 firewall Oct 01 08:55:24 fuchs@case:~$ host svn.eglibc.org Oct 01 08:55:24 svn.eglibc.org has address 65.74.133.8 Oct 01 08:55:40 twilight: speak to _koen_ he is our pet OE TI employee Oct 01 08:55:41 something like this... Oct 01 08:55:49 ohk Oct 01 08:55:54 Is it really neccessary that xproto-*native* depends on util-macros (and not only on util-macros-native)? Oct 01 08:56:09 robert bug is know Oct 01 08:56:13 I have a patch at work Oct 01 08:56:18 forgot to commit Oct 01 08:56:30 woglinde: ok Oct 01 08:56:46 woglinde: this one pulls a lot of stuff in when trying to build icedtea6-native Oct 01 08:56:49 mostly all protos-native depends not on the native packages Oct 01 08:57:05 arg ... Oct 01 08:57:06 robert thats exctly where I spotted this Oct 01 08:57:07 *g* Oct 01 08:57:18 woglinde: btw. icedtea6-native 1.6.1 is ready Oct 01 08:57:22 fine Oct 01 08:57:27 what did I wrong? Oct 01 08:58:00 woglinde: no idea exactly. but you need to adjust the patches to the latest icedtea version Oct 01 08:58:06 woglinde: and this is quite hairy Oct 01 08:58:23 hm okay Oct 01 08:58:25 woglinde: quite some things have changed (to the better) Oct 01 08:58:33 I will fix the proto stuff now Oct 01 08:58:45 woglinde: we now have less quirks in the recipe and the patches are smaller as well Oct 01 08:58:49 hi btw is there something to import git patches in kernel trees...I bet there isn't Oct 01 08:58:51 woglinde: great! Oct 01 08:58:56 in an oe recipe Oct 01 09:00:05 rober are you goinh to commit it now? Oct 01 09:06:01 woglinde: commit what? Oct 01 09:06:06 pb_: wich else ? I would like to check the compatibility with angstrom anyway. I was thinking to use runlevel 1 and not to initilialize dbus,udev, .... but I have problem. Oct 01 09:06:12 robert openjdk Oct 01 09:06:18 woglinde: I already committed everything Oct 01 09:06:22 hm Oct 01 09:06:29 woglinde: openjdk is still in jalimo svn Oct 01 09:06:38 cia lags? Oct 01 09:06:43 ah okay Oct 01 09:08:36 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r98a7d32826 10openembedded.git/classes/package.bbclass: package bbclass: strip static libs as well Oct 01 09:10:01 hm oh Oct 01 09:10:09 did we really miss this? Oct 01 09:10:13 hi germlin Oct 01 09:19:50 pb_: thanks ...... Oct 01 09:20:41 pb_: but why is it not build by default. Oct 01 09:25:31 morning all Oct 01 09:26:28 testing icedtea native now Oct 01 09:31:15 sgh: I'm not quite sure what you mean by "build by default". If you mean "why is it not included in ", that would be a question for your distro to answer. Oct 01 09:31:25 Probably 90% of the recipes in the repository are not included in any given image, though, so this isn't so startling. Oct 01 09:31:51 recalcati: I think micro-uclibc is the DISTRO that will give you the smallest images. Oct 01 09:32:00 pb__: ok thanks Oct 01 09:33:05 I can check what put inside etc Oct 01 09:33:10 thx Oct 01 10:08:40 morning Oct 01 10:09:26 morning hrw ! Oct 01 10:10:07 hi hrw Oct 01 10:10:13 hi laibsch Oct 01 10:15:41 if someone here runs 2.6.32-rc and use Debian and nfs-kernel-server then beware Oct 01 10:17:42 hrw: why? Oct 01 10:19:51 init script checks in /proc/kallsyms for init_nfs which is not present Oct 01 10:20:34 ok, at91sam9263ek boots into 2.6.31.1 Oct 01 10:37:58 edb9301 also boots Oct 01 10:41:31 03Marcin Juszkiewicz  07org.openembedded.dev * r96f8ec7a61 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Oct 01 10:41:31 linux 2.6.31: added at91sam9263ek and ep93xx support Oct 01 10:41:31 EDB9301 boots properly into this kernel Oct 01 10:41:31 AT91SAM9263-EK boots but some things which were in at91-exp patch are Oct 01 10:41:31 missing Oct 01 11:17:40 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r5a301f4df7 10openembedded.git/ (6 files in 4 dirs): gecko-mplayer: import from AlwaysInnovating overlay and clean it up a bit Oct 01 11:17:46 03Steve Sakoman  07org.openembedded.dev * r3b0b9e570c 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/gnome/cheese_2.28.0.1.bb): cheese: add 2.28.0.1 Oct 01 11:17:46 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r1fb6ea09d2 10openembedded.git/recipes/mozilla/ (6 files in 2 dirs): firefox 3.5.2: sync with AlwaysInnovating overlay Oct 01 11:33:29 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r19473230d3 10openembedded.git/recipes/gnome-mplayer/gecko-mediaplayer_0.9.8.bb: gecko-mediaplayer: fix copy/paste in packaging Oct 01 11:36:09 hi drw Oct 01 11:49:46 http://mirell.org/2009/10/01/eglibc-doesnt-believe-in-releases/ Oct 01 11:52:31 * zecke loves the sha1sum part Oct 01 11:53:41 and he totally ignores continous integration... in a perfect world you don't need a release process as every check-in gets tested automatically and you know the state :) Oct 01 11:54:48 I look forward to the perfect world .... Oct 01 11:57:57 Crofton|work: see google chrome and the tests they run after every check in Oct 01 11:58:12 and glibc is a far more easy target to test Oct 01 11:59:18 ah ok Oct 01 12:01:49 Crofton|work: e.g. what is stupid is to say they should do 2.10.A.B.C.D releases, I could just create a post-commit hook to generate a tarball... and he would stop complaining Oct 01 12:02:07 Crofton|work: but this will not change aynthing? he would probably complain about the frequency of change Oct 01 12:02:39 yeah Oct 01 12:02:45 he seems like a complainer Oct 01 12:03:41 and then i think the root is that his self built tool can only do wget. Oct 01 12:04:34 Is it possible in interactive mode to force a "do_install" ? Oct 01 12:05:18 sgh: interactive mode is bitbake -i? Oct 01 12:05:42 zecke: yes Oct 01 12:06:33 sgh: you should be able to just execute the install task? Oct 01 12:08:30 zecke: apparently it is not there, there is stage,package,build,compile .... but no install ;( Oct 01 12:08:38 My angstrom reduced start !!! Now I try to install ipk packages from my apache2 on my pc Oct 01 12:09:37 sgh: is there a generic task execution? Oct 01 12:11:11 zecke: http://pastebin.com/d7d73b4bc I can't see it. Maybe you can Oct 01 12:11:52 sgh: hey, perfect oppurtunity to create a patch Oct 01 12:12:09 sgh: look bitbake/lib/bb/shell.py and search for "build" and "clean" Oct 01 12:12:19 zecke: thanks .... Oct 01 12:12:57 sgh: too difficult? you didn't even look at the file. Oct 01 12:13:37 zecke: I was not aware of where to look. Oct 01 12:17:15 sgh: give it a try, if you post a patch I can apply it to bitbake master right away Oct 01 12:17:53 zecke: ok ... Oct 01 12:24:16 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r095a136364 10openembedded.git/recipes/mplayer/ (files/vo_omapfb.c mplayer_svn.bb): Oct 01 12:24:16 mplayer: redraw XV colourkey on every expose Oct 01 12:24:16 This fixes embedding into gnome-mplayer Oct 01 12:24:18 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r6f509a1bd1 10openembedded.git/recipes/gnome-mplayer/ (8 files in 2 dirs): gnome-mplayer: add fixes for gtk 2.18 from svn, update svn recipe, clean up patches Oct 01 12:32:21 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * re6eab30789 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-beagleboard-demo.bb: task beagleboard demo: add mplayer hack Oct 01 12:34:11 now I'm trying not to have X support for mplayer, only fbdev Oct 01 12:37:11 recalcati: thats easy Oct 01 12:52:33 easy when I was able to do. I have a pb inside runlevel Oct 01 12:53:07 Now I can't install mplayer dependencies inside base-image automatically Oct 01 12:53:19 I try with console-image Oct 01 13:00:04 mmm, I have other booting pb, maybe its easier, by now, to extract mplayer files and copy them to nfs Oct 01 13:15:07 Another incredible compatibility issues: the old intel ipp libraries can be linked with pxa270 gcc 4.2.4 : I'm afraid about OS/ABI and flags versions: http://pastebin.com/m7a552963 Oct 01 13:15:26 yes, this is a question .. :-) Oct 01 13:15:59 zecke: http://pastebin.com/d583e8ef9 this should be it. It seems to work.. Oct 01 13:20:47 sgh: do you have an email address too? Oct 01 13:21:35 zecke: sgh@sgh.dk .... bring on the spam :D Oct 01 13:26:02 03Søren Holm  07master * rc4b18ff5e2 10bitbake.git/lib/bb/shell.py: Oct 01 13:26:02 shell: Add install command Oct 01 13:26:02 Add an install command similiar to the other existing commands. Oct 01 13:26:02 Signed-off-by: Holger Hans Peter Freyther Oct 01 13:26:47 CIA-1: excellent Oct 01 13:50:09 03Klaus Kurzmann  07shr/import * ra5c8f29c06 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/shr-autorev-unstable.inc: Oct 01 13:50:09 shr-autorev-unstable: bump EFL to get glib mainloop support Oct 01 13:50:09 Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Oct 01 13:50:10 03Klaus Kurzmann  07shr/import * rb887adb803 10openembedded.git/recipes/efl1/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Oct 01 13:50:12 evas: remove cursor patches ... upstream now Oct 01 13:50:14 Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Oct 01 13:55:50 morning Oct 01 13:58:44 hi chouimat Oct 01 15:11:02 03Robert Schuster  07org.openembedded.dev * rc9a49e87ca 10openembedded.git/recipes/ecj/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Oct 01 15:11:02 ecj-initial: Increased maximum heap space to 1 GiB. Oct 01 15:11:02 ecj-bootstrap-native: Dito. Oct 01 15:23:43 hi, this line is failling in SHR: Oct 01 15:23:44 cmd = "PATH=\"%s\" I18NPATH=\"%s\" %s -L %s %s %s/bin/localedef %s" % (path, i18npath, qemu, treedir, qemu_options, treedir, localedef_opts) Oct 01 15:24:19 NOTE: generating locale es_NI (UTF-8) sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file Oct 01 15:27:55 I'll try to fix it Oct 01 15:28:04 but maybe someone has an idea Oct 01 15:36:27 check how it extends it Oct 01 15:44:07 I'm changing dependencies of mplayer, how can I verify on pc if I have really done it ? Oct 01 15:45:03 dpkg-deb -I mplayer.ipk Oct 01 15:45:34 thx Oct 01 15:45:47 * kergoth uses a couple shell functions for that Oct 01 15:45:59 jo kergoth Oct 01 15:46:06 hey woglinde Oct 01 15:47:15 I prefer just dpkg-deb Oct 01 15:48:49 hrw: I'm verifying where I put the error. thx Oct 01 15:56:17 Seems that I need to do -c clean and then -c rebuild to be sure that new dependencies are used Oct 01 15:57:22 maybe is normal, because I have changed the .bb file Oct 01 15:58:13 it was bitbake.conf Oct 01 16:04:10 I try tomorrow. bye bye Oct 01 16:04:13 I have to go Oct 01 16:18:14 bye Oct 01 16:18:27 re ant Oct 01 16:21:27 hi woglinde Oct 01 16:21:40 I'm trying to find who wrote an important patch.. Oct 01 16:22:06 kexec-tools-arm.patch Oct 01 16:22:33 (probably made by Maxim Syrchin then updated by Richard Purdie Oct 01 16:22:38 sorry Oct 01 16:22:43 dont know Oct 01 16:22:47 ask rp yes Oct 01 16:23:24 what was the command abot git log to traverse the renaming..? Oct 01 16:30:50 --follow Oct 01 16:39:04 hrw|gone: thx Oct 01 16:41:47 RP_: paternity test coming up... Oct 01 16:43:20 ant__: hope it works out for you Oct 01 16:44:21 Crofton: you still need me in Berlin ? Oct 01 16:44:25 it's really difficult to track down 5 yrs of chabges... Oct 01 16:45:34 with three or four SCM changes... Oct 01 16:52:59 he he..power of Google Oct 01 16:53:02 http://marc.info/?l=osdl-fastboot&m=111176714828300&w=2 Oct 01 17:31:52 lrg_, yeah Oct 01 17:31:57 when is it? Oct 01 17:32:12 I suppose I need to scan and email to you ... Oct 01 17:32:26 Crofton: 11th Oct Oct 01 17:33:25 ok, I need to to this quickly, I am off for a trip until then ... Oct 01 17:33:41 must get scanner from other room and attach to computer .... Oct 01 17:33:46 Crofton: votes to spend all funds on beers Oct 01 17:33:54 morning all Oct 01 17:34:21 * lrg_ seconds that ;) Oct 01 17:35:08 ok Oct 01 17:39:39 Crofton: also for OEDEM you need to bring a crate of Black Seal :-D Oct 01 17:40:10 hmm Rum Oct 01 17:40:16 need to check .eu import regs Oct 01 17:41:01 only 1L unfortuneately Oct 01 17:45:47 I'll check Oct 01 17:46:04 if I can find it locally, and pack so that I do not smell of rum Oct 01 17:46:08 is it cheaper here? Oct 01 17:49:32 03Koen Kooi  07stable/2009 * ree504c89f7 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: Oct 01 17:49:32 checksums.ini: add checksums from .dev Oct 01 17:49:32 This is done as a single change to make cherry-picking patches easier. Oct 01 17:49:32 NOTE: this doesn't deal with changed checksums, those need to go in as seperate commits Oct 01 17:49:32 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Oct 01 17:49:33 Acked-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz Oct 01 17:49:37 Acked-by: Philip Balister Oct 01 17:49:39 03Koen Kooi  07stable/2009 * r6e779f0d52 10openembedded.git/recipes/u-boot/ (46 files in 7 dirs): Oct 01 17:49:42 u-boot: sync with .dev Oct 01 17:49:44 This is mainly to update omap machines, but adds support for other machines as well. Oct 01 17:49:46 The biggest improvement is use of proper denx.de URLs and post-rebase commit IDs. Oct 01 17:49:48 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Oct 01 17:49:50 Acked-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz Oct 01 17:49:52 Acked-by: Philip Balister Oct 01 17:49:54 03Koen Kooi  07stable/2009 * r0c1337596a 10openembedded.git/recipes/x-load/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Oct 01 17:49:57 x-load: sync with .dev Oct 01 17:49:59 Fix git URLs and add more machines Oct 01 17:50:01 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Oct 01 17:50:03 Acked-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz Oct 01 17:50:05 Acked-by: Philip Balister Oct 01 17:50:15 03Koen Kooi  07stable/2009 * r858c356e52 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Oct 01 17:50:18 omap machines: sync with .dev Oct 01 17:50:22 Now that the kernels are in sync we need MACHINE_KERNEL_PR as well. Add Oct 01 17:50:24 new machines as well. Oct 01 17:50:26 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Oct 01 17:50:30 Acked-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz Oct 01 17:50:32 Acked-by: Philip Balister Oct 01 17:50:34 03Koen Kooi  07stable/2009 * r02b1862a3b 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (531 files in 52 dirs): (log message trimmed) Oct 01 17:50:37 omap kernels: sync with .dev Oct 01 17:50:39 Omap kernels in .dev have seen a big number of improvements, the most notable Oct 01 17:50:41 change being the mem-hole issue being resolved. Oct 01 17:50:45 Like the u-boot change this also adds support for new machines Oct 01 17:50:51 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Oct 01 17:50:53 Acked-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz Oct 01 18:18:21 one gta02 disposed of Oct 01 18:18:24 :-D Oct 01 18:19:49 XorA|gone: what did you do with it? Oct 01 18:20:16 raffled it Oct 01 18:21:12 got too many of them? Oct 01 18:21:21 had 2 Oct 01 18:21:29 never use them coz they never worked Oct 01 18:21:37 so I thought I would clean my flat Oct 01 18:22:41 re Oct 01 18:22:49 I also have 2 gta01 which are nicer devices Oct 01 18:23:24 they are nicer? aren't they basically the same with lower speed? Oct 01 18:25:18 wb florian Oct 01 18:25:58 hi rkirti Oct 01 18:34:48 http://gnuradio.org/cgit/jcorgan.git/ Oct 01 18:35:08 any idea how to create a SRC_URI to pull the wip/libusb-1.0 from this repo Oct 01 18:42:59 thesing, no glamo =>no sdcard problem,no bass problem ... Oct 01 18:43:55 Crofton|work: iirc, the git fetcher accepts a "proto" or "protocol" parameter, or something like that Oct 01 18:44:33 it's protocol Oct 01 18:45:11 so "git://gnuradio.org/cgit/jcorgan.git/;protocol=http" should work Oct 01 18:48:04 I need to pull from a branch though Oct 01 18:48:25 that is the bit that is tripping up Oct 01 18:49:34 err, actually git://gnuradio.org/git/jcorgan.git not /cgi/ Oct 01 18:49:36 cgit Oct 01 19:05:58 pb__: Did you get many volunteers for the TSC? Oct 01 19:06:45 TSC ? Oct 01 19:08:29 gremlin[it]: Technical Steering Committee Oct 01 19:08:37 oh true ... Oct 01 19:09:01 It all seems to have gone quiet so I was just wondering Oct 01 19:12:13 RP_: I think about five in total so far. Oct 01 19:13:43 pb_: ok, cool. I'd be interested to know who but I guess that will become clear Oct 01 19:15:20 RP_: so far we have you and khem (nominated by yourselves), kergoth (nominated by me), and me and zecke (both nominated by Stefan Schmidt) Oct 01 19:16:07 I haven't actually checked with zecke whether he is willing to serve on the committee so I guess we should consider his candidacy to be provisional at this point. Oct 01 19:18:13 One thing that we don't actually have many of at the moment is agenda items for the OEDEM. At the moment it looks like it will be a short meeting :-) Oct 01 19:26:34 re Oct 01 19:31:09 pb_: Bitbake's future would probably be a good one... Oct 01 19:31:30 woglinde: wb Oct 01 19:31:58 pb_: I start to think about tasks for OEDEM if I survive tomorrow :) Oct 01 19:32:42 survive? Oct 01 19:33:12 seems florian have party tonight ;) Oct 01 19:33:30 morning ppl Oct 01 19:34:28 woglinde: I have a very busy day tomorrow... starts with a telco, then my talk "at" Shaastra and after this a local hacker meeting. Oct 01 19:34:33 hi Jay7 Oct 01 19:35:03 eh... party will be better :) Oct 01 19:36:00 * RP_ will give the agenda items some thought Oct 01 19:54:09 RP_: righto, very good Oct 01 19:55:18 florian: fingers crossed then Oct 01 20:19:55 re Oct 01 20:20:04 pb_: speaking about agenda items... Oct 01 20:20:43 "Using of OpenEmbedded name, logo, etc in company papers, business cards, etc" - it is not solved since 2006 (first oedem) Oct 01 20:32:04 hrw: .31 fails on linking Oct 01 20:36:26 Jay7: for tosa? Oct 01 20:37:17 hrw: yes Oct 01 20:37:40 I've not investigated. it was too late :) Oct 01 20:46:28 anyone have any suggestions for setting up the git fetcher to pull from a git branch? Oct 01 20:47:30 Crofton|work: clutter/clutter-gtk-0.8_git.bb:SRC_URI = "git://git.clutter-project.org/clutter-gtk.git;protocol=git;branch=clutter-gtk-0-8" Oct 01 20:47:47 ah Oct 01 20:47:54 thanks, not in the doc :) Oct 01 20:47:59 use grep my friend Oct 01 20:48:03 funny Oct 01 20:48:19 I was thinking about that just after I asked again :) Oct 01 20:48:42 Crofton|work: you see how my thoughts radiate Oct 01 20:48:51 yes Oct 01 22:14:03 gosh, imagemagick does use a lot of memory Oct 01 22:14:45 once again it seems that I need to get a better computer, doh Oct 01 22:21:25 pb_: whats the config of one you have now Oct 01 22:22:06 hm, good question Oct 01 22:22:10 let me have a look Oct 01 22:22:54 seems to be 5GB RAM and an "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+", whatever one of those is. Oct 01 22:23:31 ugh 5GB ram is not enough ! Oct 01 22:23:39 I think the ram is the main problem, it seems to be impossible to run evolution, firefox and eclipse simultaneously. Oct 01 22:23:51 ?????? Oct 01 22:23:59 and imagemagick seems to want 11GB all on its own Oct 01 22:24:03 I run eclipse vm's with 4 gig Oct 01 22:24:06 and even firefox Oct 01 22:24:32 my best machine has 2GB and I can do everything on it pretty well Oct 01 22:24:35 and compiling oe of course Oct 01 22:24:44 11GB hmmm something is borked Oct 01 22:26:17 woglinde: according to ps, eclipse is currently using 1931972kB, evolution is using 1753016kB, and firefox is using a comparatively modest 935964kB. Oct 01 22:26:28 pb which version? Oct 01 22:26:30 eclipse Oct 01 22:26:50 vsz/virtual or rss column? Oct 01 22:27:09 that's virtual. rss is much less because imagemagick has swapped them all out. Oct 01 22:27:10 evolution is the ugly beast Oct 01 22:27:33 eclipse 3.5 works very well Oct 01 22:27:46 vsz is also mostly meaningless Oct 01 22:28:49 woglinde: I'm just trying to figure out how to find out what version of eclipse I have without running another copy of it. Oct 01 22:28:55 doesn't seem to be entirely straightforward Oct 01 22:29:16 oh, drat, now imagemagick has filled up my /tmp as well Oct 01 22:29:18 * pb_ stabs it Oct 01 22:29:20 pb about Oct 01 22:29:25 hm let me see Oct 01 22:29:39 woglinde: unfortunately it is running with display on a different machine :-} Oct 01 22:30:11 yes help about eclipse Oct 01 22:30:17 oh well, nevermind, I killed imagemagick now so I can start another eclipse Oct 01 22:30:19 20090920-1017 Oct 01 22:30:25 args Oct 01 22:30:32 Build id: 20090920-1017 Oct 01 22:30:42 ah, mine is much older than that Oct 01 22:30:50 its ee version with serval plugins Oct 01 22:30:50 I think it's from about the beginning of this year Oct 01 22:31:02 hm yes thats not 3.5 Oct 01 22:31:05 try 3.5 Oct 01 22:31:08 or 3.5.1 Oct 01 22:31:10 okay Oct 01 22:31:16 which is out since yesterday Oct 01 22:31:19 I'll give that a go Oct 01 22:31:25 updating is better Oct 01 22:31:35 it has some glinches with slow sites Oct 01 22:31:44 I'm still a bit traumatised by my experiences with updating maven yesterday, but I will cross my fingers Oct 01 22:31:47 but is working better than in 3.4 Oct 01 22:34:34 I guess I can at least parallel-install the new eclipse with my old one, so if disaster strikes I can go back. Oct 01 22:35:13 * pb_ goes to download it Oct 01 22:35:35 yeah Oct 01 22:35:45 just diffrent install dirs Oct 01 22:35:56 workspace should be intact Oct 01 22:36:50 pb_: how come 11gb is eaten I dont get it ? do you have huge image files under processing Oct 01 22:36:59 with imagemagick Oct 01 22:37:06 or is it just memory leak Oct 01 22:37:17 khem mem leak I guess Oct 01 22:37:46 well, I didn't think so. I was just trying to create a single a4 contact sheet containing about 20 pictures. Oct 01 22:37:56 using montage Oct 01 22:39:15 I guess I might have done something wrong, maybe I told it to create 20 a4-sized images by mistake Oct 01 22:39:25 I know few years back it ate a lot of memory to open png files Oct 01 22:39:53 like more than double for same image opened in firefox Oct 01 22:40:06 mm, these are all jpegs Oct 01 22:40:58 it seems a bit sad that creating photo contact sheets is so hard in linux. there's a gimp plugin for it, but it sucks. imagemagick seems like it can do it, but it's rather hard work. any better suggestions? Oct 01 22:41:24 try kde tools Oct 01 22:41:29 I guess I could just burn all the photos to a cd and let my wife do it with the windows photo wizard, but that seems a bit lame. Oct 01 22:41:30 I think its called krita Oct 01 22:42:17 hm. "apt-cache search krita" doesn't show anything Oct 01 22:42:30 except for xicc, which seems irrelevant Oct 01 22:42:36 http://www.koffice.org/krita/ Oct 01 22:43:04 do you have kde 4.x Oct 01 22:43:26 dunno, whatever is in debian sid Oct 01 22:43:29 I don't use kde myself Oct 01 22:44:03 $ sudo aptitude search krita Oct 01 22:44:03 [sudo] password for kraj: Oct 01 22:44:03 p krita - a pixel-based image manipulation program f Oct 01 22:44:03 p krita-data - data files for Krita painting program Oct 01 22:44:03 p krita-plugins - plugins for Krita, of the KDE Office Suite Oct 01 22:44:29 hm. Oct 01 22:44:34 i have ubuntu Oct 01 22:44:34 let me try an apt update and see if that helps Oct 01 22:44:37 ah Oct 01 22:44:48 maybe ubuntu is more hip to kde than debian is Oct 01 22:44:59 thats possible Oct 01 22:45:19 no, still no krita in debian after apt-get update Oct 01 22:45:34 oh well, guess I am stuck with imagemagick. I'm not installing ubuntu just for that. Oct 01 22:45:44 http://packages.debian.org/ Oct 01 22:45:55 shows that the package exist for debian Oct 01 22:46:41 may be you do not have your apt looking at all repos Oct 01 22:46:48 hm, that is odd. Oct 01 22:46:55 apparently it exists in stable, but not in unstable Oct 01 22:47:04 oh that could be Oct 01 22:48:05 pb_: wont gimp do the job Oct 01 22:48:38 not easily, at least not that I've found Oct 01 22:49:26 there's a script-fu plugin for creating contact sheets, but it (a) sucks a bit, (b) won't run without manual hacking, and (c) sucks some more. Oct 01 22:49:49 however, if I can't get imagemagick to play then the gimp is my next best option Oct 01 22:53:45 pb yes Oct 01 22:53:53 you can script gimp with python Oct 01 23:01:18 yeah, indeed. I guess I was just hoping not to have to write a script for this. Oct 01 23:01:19 oh well. Oct 01 23:01:37 ah, midnight Oct 01 23:01:41 * pb_ turns into a pumpkin Oct 01 23:01:44 night all Oct 01 23:08:12 nite pb Oct 02 00:07:38 hello folks. why would bitbake want to rebuild everything from source when i've only changed BBFILES? Oct 02 00:10:47 is there a way to prevent this? Oct 02 00:26:42 bjk: does it rebuild packages ? Oct 02 00:26:56 yeah. all of them Oct 02 00:37:15 khem, any ideas? Oct 02 00:40:12 i'm using stable/2009 BTW Oct 02 00:40:27 how usable is .dev? Oct 02 00:40:41 pretty good depends what you need Oct 02 00:42:29 minimal-gpe-image and gnokii? Oct 02 00:42:47 just trying to get things to work ATM Oct 02 00:43:01 gpe-image builds ok here using minimal distro Oct 02 00:45:27 i have something like 6.5k tasks that would need to be done but binaries are already built. doesnt seem like it should need to be done. Oct 02 00:47:05 bjk: what distro and machine do you need it on Oct 02 00:48:00 DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1", MACHINE = "rokre6" Oct 02 00:49:08 you could use .dev Oct 02 00:49:25 rokre6 is sort of arm/xscale Oct 02 00:49:31 which should work well Oct 02 00:50:06 you could also try DISTRO=minimal if you are not particularly tied to angstrom Oct 02 00:50:25 how is iwmmxt supported? i've seen different compiler feeatures but arent sure which to use (uclibc)? Oct 02 00:50:58 well iwmmxt is supported on selected arches Oct 02 00:52:02 depends what you are looking for if you want a lot of stuff then uclibc may not be right choice Oct 02 00:52:32 but if you have size constraints then it may be better to use it Oct 02 00:53:31 i noticed that after a 'git pull' the same problem happens. i'd have to rebuild from scratch. does this happen in .dev? Oct 02 00:53:43 well usually not Oct 02 00:53:49 it just parses the recipes Oct 02 00:54:00 if some common file is modified Oct 02 00:54:07 but it should not rebuild Oct 02 00:54:11 everything Oct 02 00:54:40 hrm. the last commit was related to netbase. then flex started to rebuild. Oct 02 00:55:03 maybe i'll try .dev Oct 02 00:57:42 yeah and feel free to ask herwe Oct 02 00:57:47 here Oct 02 00:57:56 thanks khem Oct 02 00:58:02 enjoy Oct 02 01:14:29 khem, i found something that says it's related to the toolchain. if i were to use an external toolchain then things would be different. Oct 02 01:15:09 whats that Oct 02 01:16:44 since the toolchain probably depends on flex and others, and the toolchain is needed for build the rest, then (most) everything would need to be rebuilt. Oct 02 01:17:16 well not really Oct 02 01:17:25 dependencies dont unwind like that Oct 02 01:17:29 http://markmail.org/message/3usoe3kwde2imddc Oct 02 01:17:43 very similar to my problem Oct 02 01:17:53 once you have a cross toolchain build then changes in flex-native will not force gcc rebuild Oct 02 01:18:30 are you using external toolchain ? Oct 02 01:18:57 no Oct 02 01:19:04 must be something else then Oct 02 01:29:05 g'night Oct 02 02:01:02 morning kergoth Oct 02 02:01:06 hey Oct 02 02:02:14 bbl **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 02 02:59:56 2009