**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 01 02:59:56 2010 Feb 01 07:56:07 hi Feb 01 07:57:38 morning all Feb 01 08:09:24 good morning Feb 01 08:09:30 morning mckoan Feb 01 08:09:41 gremlin[it]: :-) Feb 01 08:10:49 qualcomm is sponsoring fosdem 2010. have they sponsored it before? Feb 01 08:53:25 mckoan, we have decided something about hardware to show on the booth ? Feb 01 08:56:19 gremlin[it]: I don't know Feb 01 09:10:57 crazy freenode Feb 01 09:50:34 hi jama Feb 01 09:51:19 anyone with a i.mx27 ads here? Feb 01 09:51:36 manz: how far are you with your kernel? Feb 01 09:53:48 hi, i've got a problem with bitbake. could someone tell me how to solve this, please? http://pastebin.com/d45f0f379 Feb 01 09:54:02 hi Feb 01 09:55:15 I built an imeage with libqtgui4 included, but where can I find the Qt headers for cross compiling? Feb 01 09:56:15 Weaselweb ask zecke Feb 01 09:56:33 hm or precise your question Feb 01 09:56:40 why you need headers in the image? Feb 01 09:56:41 morning all Feb 01 09:56:57 hi rp Feb 01 09:57:11 hi Feb 01 09:57:12 well, I have some sources which build fine on my host (x86_64), but I want to compile it for arm now. where is the include directory for qt4? Feb 01 09:57:22 thanks mickey Feb 01 09:57:30 weaselweb make recipe Feb 01 09:57:34 and run bitbake Feb 01 09:57:44 there are serval qt apps packaged Feb 01 09:57:51 you can take one at kickoff Feb 01 09:58:06 mh, that's odd for development Feb 01 09:58:14 ????? Feb 01 09:58:15 each bitbake run takes very long Feb 01 09:58:22 ????? Feb 01 09:58:29 Weaselweb: well, then use a prepackaged toolchain? Feb 01 09:58:32 only firs time? Feb 01 09:58:43 btw. qt is crossplatform Feb 01 09:58:43 woglinde: no, each time Feb 01 09:58:55 weaselweb then you are doing something wrong Feb 01 09:59:05 bitbake foo-package Feb 01 09:59:17 is relative Feb 01 09:59:25 Weaselweb develop on i386 Feb 01 09:59:29 i know, but it takes minutes before run-queue is started Feb 01 09:59:31 crosscompile the package Feb 01 09:59:38 i386... Feb 01 09:59:46 zecke: mxc_nand support i included but it is not detecting it. but when i choosed generic nand driver it is detecing as Toshiba NAND 8MiB 1,8V 8-bit) Feb 01 10:00:43 Weaselweb: http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/html/ch05s08.html Feb 01 10:02:07 hi recalcati Feb 01 10:02:08 zecke: http://pastebin.com/m4b565231 Feb 01 10:04:09 zecke: mh, in stable branch there is no qt-toolchain task Feb 01 10:05:09 Weaselweb: I fear you will have to a) use bitbake devshell, and patch the script for some paths for Qt b) backport the recipes. Feb 01 10:05:28 Weaselweb: c) only build the meta-toolchain-qte with unstable and use the result. Feb 01 10:08:45 i will try that maybe Feb 01 10:09:13 mh, but what's strange, qt in devel branch installs the headers. but devel branch is reallyunstable for me :( Feb 01 10:12:24 Weaselweb: Well, it is hard to tell what really unstable means for you. :) Feb 01 10:13:04 Weaselweb: I build meta-toolchain-qte, every one or two weeks and then try the result. Feb 01 10:13:37 i get kernel panics related to JFFS2 and NAND regulary Feb 01 10:13:49 this doesn't happen on stable branch Feb 01 10:14:05 so the kernel is unstable for you Feb 01 10:14:15 not whole packages Feb 01 10:14:57 i'm not sure, i also get NULL pointer exceptions during startup (after kernel init) Feb 01 10:15:28 AFAIK stable und devel kernel is both 2.6.28 Feb 01 10:15:34 with at91 patches Feb 01 10:16:48 Weaselweb: sorry. I have no idea about the state or the differences in regard to At91. But both of your problems sounds like issue with the kernel. :) Feb 01 10:17:09 why oe doest not boot on imx27ads Feb 01 10:18:14 zecke: yes, it sound like that. but i dont have time to debug into that Feb 01 10:38:24 Weaselweb cannt you use newer kernel Feb 01 10:38:24 woglinde your idea worked man Feb 01 10:38:33 http://pastebin.com/mb941463 Feb 01 10:39:56 woglinde: maybe, I didn't try as I'm afraid of starting new bitbake runs each time I changed something which take long time. Feb 01 10:40:25 hm Feb 01 10:40:46 samuel checked in a lot of patches for .29 or .3x Feb 01 10:40:50 args Feb 01 10:40:51 ulf Feb 01 10:40:55 I meant Feb 01 10:41:09 weaselweb hm get a phenom Feb 01 10:41:12 *g* Feb 01 10:41:25 I even have a dual core, but my hard disk slows me down :( Feb 01 10:42:50 hmmm my touch screen or my keyboard is not working Feb 01 10:54:33 root@mx27ads:~# keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 158 Feb 01 10:54:35 keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 158 Feb 01 10:54:50 how to fix this Feb 01 12:20:11 morning Feb 01 12:46:19 hi hrw Feb 01 12:46:24 and bye Feb 01 12:47:33 hi Kirtika Feb 01 12:49:50 hello hrw Feb 01 14:29:41 hello Feb 01 14:29:51 Hello :-) Feb 01 14:30:11 I've created a kernel recipe and machine config for new hardware Feb 01 14:30:22 what is the correct way to submit those? (git patches) Feb 01 14:31:22 would that be the developers mailling list or through bugzilla Feb 01 14:43:43 ML Feb 01 14:43:56 oke Feb 01 16:45:41 hi Feb 01 16:45:51 which kernel is now recommned for beagleboard? Feb 01 16:48:27 2.6.29 still Feb 01 16:48:31 or 2.6.32-psp Feb 01 16:48:58 hrw did you test 2.6.32-psp? Feb 01 16:49:38 with luck we will have a touchbook at fosdem Feb 01 16:50:38 I booted it on bb Feb 01 16:50:45 have to go now - bb in 20min Feb 01 17:03:01 re Feb 01 17:03:05 re hrw Feb 01 17:03:35 ~lart angstroem for ggdb3 on navite Feb 01 17:27:27 * kergoth decides to see how painful a build on darwin is nowadays Feb 01 17:27:53 hehe Feb 01 17:28:05 * kergoth guesses the answer is "very" Feb 01 17:28:06 :) Feb 01 17:28:10 which macbookpro? Feb 01 17:28:50 '08 macbook, it wont be fast, but might be worthwhile to help fix any remaining issues Feb 01 17:29:35 slow slow disk Feb 01 17:30:24 replaced that, screw 5400rpm Feb 01 17:30:26 :) Feb 01 17:32:51 args Feb 01 17:33:03 seems I should have take bitbake master Feb 01 17:33:05 kergoth: nfs over 1GbE? Feb 01 17:33:06 +not Feb 01 17:33:09 Task failed: Missing field for ipk generation: 'PKGV' Feb 01 17:49:17 bye Feb 01 18:30:46 RP, if I recall correctly you are knowledgeable about packaged staging, have you seen my emails on it ? Feb 01 18:40:22 I'd certainly hope he'd be knowledgable about it, he wrote it :) Feb 01 18:44:54 well was not sure about that, but often hear his name when it comes to packaged staging Feb 01 18:45:10 still trying to get it fully working .... Feb 01 18:54:08 kergoth: darwin builds simply dont work koen had a branch I tried to use it and also make progress on top but ran out of motivation Feb 01 18:54:11 gm all Feb 01 19:53:02 jo Feb 01 19:53:03 re Feb 01 19:53:06 hm seems Feb 01 19:53:14 we need a sane-java-toolchaine.inc Feb 01 20:10:14 Hello; I'm using networkmanager but it is not being notified about file changes ... Feb 01 20:10:23 The kernel has inotify builtin Feb 01 20:10:28 Any guess? Feb 01 20:11:45 networkmanager suckz Feb 01 20:11:48 us ifup Feb 01 20:13:45 but thats only my opinion Feb 01 20:13:47 ;) Feb 01 20:15:16 woglinde: I can't; we need it for vpn, gprs modems, wpa and like Feb 01 20:15:30 woglinde: even though it suck, it makes life easier then manage all this by hand Feb 01 20:17:47 ???? Feb 01 20:18:27 hm I have ifup config's for all Feb 01 20:18:31 I only need to copy Feb 01 20:19:06 and as far as I know networmanger has no wpa-roaming support Feb 01 20:34:06 hms we need a freetype update Feb 01 20:52:02 test Feb 01 20:52:09 * chouimat can't find the CD for his devkit8000 Feb 01 21:03:22 hi kergoth Feb 01 21:03:36 bleh, took me 2.5 hours to drive home from the office today Feb 01 21:04:06 he pb Feb 01 21:04:11 hi woglinde Feb 01 21:04:11 snow again and ice again? Feb 01 21:04:18 no, accident on the motorway this time Feb 01 21:04:19 hi jay7 Feb 01 21:04:23 uh Feb 01 21:04:58 spent nearly an hour stuck in a jam Feb 01 21:04:59 woglinde: hey Feb 01 21:05:22 there isn't actually that much snow and ice here at the moment. a little bit of snow on the ground but it's just a light dusting really. Feb 01 21:12:27 we have like 8-9 inches here Feb 01 21:14:09 hehe.. Feb 01 21:14:27 * Jay7 smiles silently :) Feb 01 21:27:05 Crofton|work: just? Feb 01 21:27:26 heh Feb 01 21:27:38 * hrw|gone -> off Feb 01 21:27:40 that is high for us, but the roads are mostly clear Feb 01 21:27:51 btw - just watched "Old Dogs" movie - need to see comedy Feb 01 21:27:58 I gather Britain would become extremely disfunctional Feb 01 22:16:04 nite all Feb 01 22:59:02 eFfeM: I haven't seen the emails, no :/ Feb 01 23:02:32 Anyone else having trouble doing "bitbake gtk+-native" Feb 01 23:02:34 ? Feb 01 23:03:32 It fails to autoconf, looking for libX11... maybe there is something I have to set in order to get xorg-libs providing virtual/libx11 ? Feb 01 23:03:41 I'm missing some link in this chain *grin* Feb 01 23:04:17 sethn: Keep in mind the difference between "-native" and target packages which don't end in -native Feb 01 23:04:29 gtk+-native probably depends on virtual/libx11-native Feb 01 23:04:46 RP: not directly, which I also find a little odd Feb 01 23:05:24 sethn: I find that odd too Feb 01 23:05:30 sethn: Ill bet yoy its a missing depend on libxrender Feb 01 23:05:47 I fixed that in an older gtk+ maybe koen forgot to move it into his new one Feb 01 23:05:50 RP: it does depend on cairo-native, which in turn depends on libx11-native Feb 01 23:06:04 ahhh, I figured it might be something like that Feb 01 23:06:05 Thanks Feb 01 23:06:20 Um, but since I'd like to learn.... how does the "virtual" system work? Feb 01 23:06:51 How does depending on "virtual/libx11" eventually result in a depencency on a specific provider of libx11 (I believe there are a few) Feb 01 23:07:20 XorA, actually, gtk+.inc still includes libxrender in its DEPENDs Feb 01 23:08:12 * woglinde tries to compile hotspot zero with thumbee support Feb 01 23:08:28 And libx11-native is indirectly depended by way of cairo... the -g tree has gtk+-native -> cairo-native -> libx11-native Feb 01 23:08:31 eFfeM: reply sent to the list. See if that makes it clearer roughly what the problem is Feb 01 23:08:33 * XorA cant actually find that commit Feb 01 23:08:46 * RP curses autotools Feb 01 23:08:47 sethn: did you look at config.log? Feb 01 23:08:57 XorA, yeah, its failing to find libX11 Feb 01 23:09:16 "Checking for the GNU C compiler" "no" - it blatently is a GNU C compiler... Feb 01 23:09:23 sethn: ah, I did see similar but it was failing to find xtender, different issue Feb 01 23:11:39 Interesting, its not finding -lXrender Feb 01 23:11:49 back to the dep tree.... Feb 01 23:14:05 gtk+_2.18.6.bb:DEPENDS_virtclass-native = "atk-native pango-native cairo-native" Feb 01 23:14:19 try adding libxrender-native to that like in gtk+_2.18.6 Feb 01 23:14:51 so it was the problem I was detailing I just have no idea which branch I checked the fix into Feb 01 23:14:58 heh heh Feb 01 23:15:07 RP this error comes when gcc is crashing Feb 01 23:15:09 too Feb 01 23:15:20 * sethn guilty of occasionally checking into branches that exist only in his mind Feb 01 23:15:59 ~lart icedtead gys Feb 01 23:15:59 * ibot DoSes icedtead gys Feb 01 23:17:20 woglinde: hmm :/ Feb 01 23:22:45 woglinde: what error Feb 01 23:22:48 hi RP Feb 01 23:24:40 XorA, That was it! Thanks so much! Feb 01 23:25:40 sethn: can you submit patch to email as Ive lost mine Feb 01 23:25:59 XorA: to email? Feb 01 23:26:27 sethn: or commit direct if you have access Feb 01 23:26:52 XorA: no, I'm just getting started... I wasn't even sure what submitting to email entails :) Feb 01 23:28:55 * XorA wonders where we put our how to submit patches guidfe Feb 01 23:29:07 excellent! Feb 01 23:29:13 * sethn would like to read such a thing Feb 01 23:30:43 khem RP seems to has one Feb 01 23:31:34 sethn: basically you get git to chuck out the patch and send it to mailing list following the policies in wiki Feb 01 23:31:47 sethn: but Ive got headache and its late so Im off to bed Feb 01 23:32:45 woglinde, khem: Its some issue with the latest autoconf. It appears its doing compile tests before working out the compiler output object file extension Feb 01 23:32:59 Which obviously works really well :/ Feb 01 23:33:16 hm hm Feb 01 23:33:31 wrong usage of AC_PROG_C? Feb 01 23:33:42 woglinde: probably something screwed up like that, yes Feb 01 23:34:07 rp could you pastebin configure.ac Feb 01 23:34:14 and the config.log? Feb 01 23:34:36 thanks for your help XorA Feb 01 23:35:22 jo mickeyl Feb 01 23:36:20 woglinde: It has KDE insanity - won't help :/ Feb 01 23:36:33 hi woglinde Feb 01 23:36:34 woglinde: Its taglib FWIW and I think you're onto something through with AC_PROC_C Feb 01 23:36:45 s/through/though/ Feb 01 23:37:03 kde insanity? Feb 01 23:37:09 kde is useing cmake Feb 01 23:37:53 if "uname -m" returns i686 and thus indicates 32bit, does that mean I run on 32bit hardware or could it be I am on 64bit hardware in 32bit mode? Feb 01 23:38:15 woglinde: AC_CHECK_COMPILERS which is defined in the acinclude.m4 along with KDE_PROG_LIBTOOL and other such fun Feb 01 23:38:31 Laibsch: latter Feb 01 23:38:34 rp wahahah this suckz Feb 01 23:38:39 and needs rewrite Feb 01 23:38:47 but thats not an autotools failure Feb 01 23:38:55 woglinde: I can call it insanity then? :) Feb 01 23:39:02 khem: how do I find out if this is 32bit hardware or 64bit hardware? Feb 01 23:39:29 Laibsch: on a debian x86_64 system : setarch i686;uname -m Feb 01 23:39:44 ugh setarch i686 Feb 01 23:39:53 rp is the shitty devloper which can programming clean Feb 01 23:39:58 +not Feb 01 23:40:06 ~lart openjdk devs again Feb 01 23:40:06 * ibot squeezes openjdk devs again till openjdk devs again turns blue like papa smurf Feb 01 23:40:07 error: 'stdout' was not declared in this scope Feb 01 23:40:11 *sigh* Feb 01 23:40:15 Laibsch: cat /proc/cpuinfo should tell you somewhere Feb 01 23:40:29 woglinde: indeed, its ugly as sin :/ Feb 01 23:40:32 ~lart icedtea devs for not fixing it Feb 01 23:40:32 * ibot flings poo at icedtea devs for not fixing it Feb 01 23:41:18 Laibsch: cat /proc/cpuinfo might help Feb 01 23:41:54 Laibsch: but if you have 32bit kernel running on 64bit hardware then its no use to know Feb 01 23:42:15 Laibsch: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/proccpuinfo-flag-lm-358563/ Feb 01 23:42:26 khem: Surely it would show the cpu feature flag regardless? Feb 01 23:44:16 That flag tells you if the CPU can run in 64 bit mode. No promises about the rest of the system but its a good indicator Feb 01 23:44:17 RP: yeah Feb 01 23:45:15 great, thanks. Amazing. I would have never thought there are 64bit netbooks. Feb 01 23:47:41 Laibsch: thats only CPU though your motherboard still may not support 64bit Feb 01 23:48:17 yes, it said so in the link that RP posted Feb 01 23:49:37 http://www.amazon.de/1005P-Netbook-1-6GHz-Starter-schwarz/dp/B0030GEHRS says 64bit computing: yes, too. But I just couldn't believe it really meant that. Feb 02 00:02:59 woglinde: fixed it, it was the ordering that was broken Feb 02 00:04:05 hihi Feb 02 00:06:10 * RP looks at the scrolling list of build failures and wonders how long this is going to take :/ Feb 02 00:07:02 rp for what? Feb 02 00:07:06 newer autotools? Feb 02 00:07:16 woglinde: To enable newer autotools in poky Feb 02 00:07:26 hm ah Feb 02 01:38:28 fii Feb 02 01:39:14 test Feb 02 01:40:34 anybody knows how current is nokia770 support? Feb 02 01:40:54 hm Feb 02 01:41:17 not so good Feb 02 01:41:30 why? Feb 02 01:42:03 trying to resurrect it... Feb 02 01:42:50 it loses wifi in presence of 11n :( Feb 02 01:43:24 hm Feb 02 01:43:47 dont know in which shape the opensource wifi driver is Feb 02 01:44:05 was it ever functional? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 02 02:59:58 2010