**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 05 02:59:56 2010 Feb 05 04:45:54 Bah, where's ant Feb 05 05:23:03 * mckoan|FOSDEM is going to airport... Feb 05 08:11:21 03Steffen Sledz  07org.openembedded.dev * r9c305ede48 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-2.6.24/hipox/defconfig: Feb 05 08:11:21 linux-2.6.24: enable MAGIC_SYSRQ for hipox machine Feb 05 08:11:21 We're hunting a snaky bug. Feb 05 08:11:21 Signed-off-by: Steffen Sledz Feb 05 09:45:13 morning all Feb 05 09:46:05 morning Feb 05 10:20:38 * hrw-gone-fosdem is brussels Feb 05 10:23:44 brb Feb 05 11:40:42 gm Feb 05 11:58:52 hi likewise Feb 05 11:59:01 hoi Feb 05 11:59:17 quiet today, several people on their way to brussels Feb 05 12:08:21 yeah, and apparently hrw has gone one better: it seems that he _is_ brussels. Feb 05 12:08:24 fear Feb 05 12:15:00 eFfeM: you visiting fosdem any day? Feb 05 12:16:48 hi, I got "/var/lib/python-support/python2.6/bb/COW.py:29: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated ..." error while running bitbake, in ubuntu 9.04 Feb 05 12:18:08 how can I resolve, Feb 05 12:19:15 lucker buggers :) Feb 05 12:19:39 balakrishnan: the easiest thing to do is just to ignore it. Feb 05 12:20:29 I got "NameError: global name 'os' is not defined" error also Feb 05 12:20:41 update bitbake Feb 05 12:20:57 use the latest tarball Feb 05 12:21:31 Thank u, I will try Feb 05 12:30:42 likewise: planning to go there for both days Feb 05 12:32:04 not going to the beer event though, will be driving to there tomorrow morning Feb 05 12:36:57 eFfeM, the beer event is the best part :) Feb 05 12:39:32 Crofton|work: guessed that but have another obligation this evening Feb 05 12:41:37 Be sure ti bring change for the subway :) Feb 05 12:42:24 dah, no subway for me, ULB has very good parking facilities Feb 05 13:03:47 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r95fd7f2762 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux-openmoko-shr-devel: enable UBI in gta01 config too Feb 05 13:03:48 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r9d0578e9cf 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Feb 05 13:03:48 fso-boot: add new cornucopia project Feb 05 13:03:48 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Feb 05 13:03:49 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r58114125f5 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs-fso.inc: Feb 05 13:03:49 sane-srcrevs-fso: small upgrade for mdbus2, fsogsmd and fsodeviced Feb 05 13:03:49 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Feb 05 14:02:07 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * rfd7071b6a6 10openembedded.git/recipes/freesmartphone/fso-boot_git.bb: fso-boot: use SRCREV instead SRCPV (sorry) Feb 05 14:48:28 hi Feb 05 14:48:38 I arrived at my hotel Feb 05 14:49:04 is there anyone online? Feb 05 14:49:14 and that is in belgium for the fosdem Feb 05 14:53:10 GNUtoo|oeee: hi, i'm here Feb 05 14:53:20 ok Feb 05 14:53:43 I'm at square des heraulds or something like that(country house) Feb 05 14:54:11 GNUtoo|oeee: build an eeepc image yesterday, what did you do to boot it (it was too late to dig that up), i just untarred to an SD ext2 partition Feb 05 14:54:28 gentoo has a manual for that Feb 05 14:54:32 is country house the hotel you are staying? is it good? is it central? Feb 05 14:54:40 it's near brugman Feb 05 14:55:10 hm that does not help too much, but i'll google it Feb 05 14:56:14 maybe openstreetmap or navit can help Feb 05 14:57:24 I'll give you a link Feb 05 14:59:23 the astrid is near De Brouckere or something like that Feb 05 14:59:29 near the Grand Place Feb 05 15:00:21 I need to fetch the kernel from a directory I have on the local machine Feb 05 15:00:26 how do I do that? Feb 05 15:00:42 ok Feb 05 15:00:57 gentoo guide does something like that: Feb 05 15:01:00 untar Feb 05 15:01:02 chroot Feb 05 15:01:05 install grub Feb 05 15:01:09 install kernel Feb 05 15:01:40 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.80211&lon=4.34283&zoom=15&layers=B000FTF Feb 05 15:01:46 heros Feb 05 15:01:49 that's where I am Feb 05 15:02:25 eFfeM, I did it from ubuntu on my usb key Feb 05 15:02:56 before I go...how can we meet if we meet somewhere today? Feb 05 15:03:13 I can also give my phone numbre Feb 05 15:03:17 *number Feb 05 15:05:14 eFfeM, if you want I could install it for you... Feb 05 15:05:58 because I bet you have a chicken-egg problem Feb 05 15:06:02 you don't have livecd Feb 05 15:06:06 GNUtoo|oeee, go to the beer event :) Feb 05 15:06:42 Crofton, ok thanks a lot...I thought there were meeting somewhere else beause beer was too much crowded&noisy Feb 05 15:06:56 but in another hand it's easy to go Feb 05 15:06:59 I have an oe badge Feb 05 15:07:17 maybe, it isl stil fun though Feb 05 15:07:36 there is the oe logo+ Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli + "developer"(commit access) Feb 05 15:07:50 so should be easy to spot Feb 05 15:07:58 I'll go meat other people before that Feb 05 15:08:01 thanks a lot Feb 05 15:11:13 GNUtoo|oeee: was sidetracked, will see where it is, I am not yet in brussels will arrive tomorrow (75 minute drive or so) Feb 05 15:11:27 ok Feb 05 15:11:41 will try to meet you at the OE table somewhere tomorrow Feb 05 15:11:46 ok Feb 05 15:11:49 and will bring my eeepc Feb 05 15:11:59 hey guys Feb 05 15:12:00 I have eeepc+bug+openmoko+htcdream Feb 05 15:12:12 it still boots linux natively so no chicken/egg Feb 05 15:12:25 actually considered syslinux but didn't really get to it Feb 05 15:12:34 morning kergoth Feb 05 15:12:38 eFfeM, still chicken-egg...you're on a live system Feb 05 15:12:45 you can't magically untar it Feb 05 15:12:49 it would make issues Feb 05 15:12:56 you need another system Feb 05 15:13:00 which I have on usb Feb 05 15:13:29 anyway we'll do that tomorrow Feb 05 15:13:39 I realy have to go Feb 05 15:13:47 cya Feb 05 15:13:56 and have fun Feb 05 15:14:00 thanks Feb 05 15:14:02 bye Feb 05 15:21:11 found it, it is not really central Feb 05 16:32:19 mickey|zzZZzz: is there a good summary of the dbus system activation stuff? Feb 05 16:42:51 hmm, need to look over the PATCHRESOLVE stuff, make it more usable Feb 05 16:43:10 does work, but no real notification that its spawned the devshell Feb 05 16:58:15 hi. how can i avoid some other recipes appending something to my CMDLINE variable? Feb 05 16:58:31 i think you'll need to be more specific. Feb 05 16:59:33 i define my CMDLINE in my conf file and it is alwas a "debug" added when i check it on the device Feb 05 17:01:25 oh, i see Feb 05 17:01:34 i can overwrite it with CMDLINE_DEBUG Feb 05 17:01:45 it is in linux.inc Feb 05 17:01:51 yeah.. was about to suggest looking at linux.inc :) Feb 05 17:01:57 git grep CMDLINE ;) Feb 05 17:02:41 but in general, there is no way to make sure a variable is not changed somewhere it other recipes? Feb 05 17:03:26 recipes and classes are always free to override regular variables that come from the configuration metadata. in some cases you can leverage OVERRIDES to override them, however Feb 05 17:05:09 ok. thanks Feb 05 17:06:12 I'm pretty sure the oe and bitbake manuals should explain how you use overrides, somewhere, but i haven't looked at them in a while, to be honest :) Feb 05 17:07:04 kergoth: the overrides section says something like to be filled later :-P Feb 05 17:07:09 haha Feb 05 17:07:10 oops Feb 05 17:07:17 the manual is full of to-dos Feb 05 17:08:06 * rkirti wants to integrate the skewed OE documentation, which is pretty nice but scattered all over the place, including lots of devel blog articles Feb 05 17:08:45 that would be nice Feb 05 17:11:23 kergoth: i just saw it when i tried to figure out what exactly overrides are ;) Feb 05 17:12:02 kergoth: debug on how to use the shell would also be good... Feb 05 17:12:12 kergoth: s/debug/info/ Feb 05 17:12:20 OVERRIDES are one piece of the implementation of the fundamental layering of our metadata, always least specific to most specific Feb 05 17:12:54 rkirti: I'm pretty sure overrides are in the bitbake manual, not the OE one Feb 05 17:13:13 RP: that's true, and the resolution method could vary depending on the PATCHTOOL in question Feb 05 17:13:17 i need to revisit it Feb 05 17:13:36 the initial implementation i did at ohand was functional, but even since then I've learned a thing or two about python i didn't know before :) Feb 05 17:13:45 kergoth: ;-) Feb 05 17:13:56 course, was hit by depression issues back then too, which didn't help matters Feb 05 17:13:56 kergoth: The patch class does generally make my head hurt :/ Feb 05 17:14:05 RP: right. my bad. I thought the reference was to the OE manual, which has an empty section for this Feb 05 17:14:13 well, what's most annoying to me is that we can't just define classes in recipes :) Feb 05 17:14:23 and importing a .py from a collection is a pain in the ass too Feb 05 17:14:42 would be nice to make that easier somehow Feb 05 17:14:48 kergoth: In some ways I'd wonder about a set of patch classes in bitbake Feb 05 17:15:02 hmm, that's a possibility Feb 05 17:15:24 kergoth: and/or allow adding a lib/oe to bitbake from OE Feb 05 17:15:42 with the usual plan being that stuff thats more generic makes its way to lib/bb ? Feb 05 17:15:50 yeah, i thought about that too. could just add /lib to the sys.path or something Feb 05 17:15:55 would be a start, anyway Feb 05 17:16:18 would be kind of cool to make the bitbake python package a .. what do they call it again.. Feb 05 17:16:26 There is no part in parsing all this stuff as a class Feb 05 17:16:26 setuptools lets you do that thing where you can separate parts of a package Feb 05 17:16:28 namespace package Feb 05 17:17:16 kergoth: I started creating a lib/bb/server namespace recently, we have lib/bb/parse and lib/bb/ui, a patch one wouldn't be so out of place Feb 05 17:17:18 * kergoth should change the patch class to just inherit from collections.deque Feb 05 17:17:57 has anyone seen this error message while building apache2 w/ OE? "This autoconf log indicates errors, it looked at host includes" Feb 05 17:18:45 rphillips: sounds fairly clear - something is looking in /usr/include which is bad Feb 05 17:23:12 looks like apache is looking for postgres headers Feb 05 17:32:28 does anyone know how to fix this: Feb 05 17:32:31 | /home/build/shr/ngw100/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/glib-2.0-native-2.22.4-r0/glib-2.22.4/configure: line 45113: syntax error near unexpected token `PCRE,' Feb 05 17:32:33 | /home/build/shr/ngw100/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/glib-2.0-native-2.22.4-r0/glib-2.22.4/configure: line 45113: ` PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PCRE,' Feb 05 17:33:49 ? Feb 05 17:34:18 hi Feb 05 17:34:23 hi Feb 05 17:34:29 I am at brussel now Feb 05 17:34:37 ~seen hrw Feb 05 17:34:41 hrw <~hrw@chello089078170228.chello.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1d 2h 25m 30s ago, saying: 'pupnik: sure'. Feb 05 17:34:54 pon mckoan Feb 05 17:35:00 ping mckoan Feb 05 17:35:35 soltys: missing DEPENDS on libpcre ? Feb 05 17:35:52 hm Feb 05 17:36:18 soltys: pcre-native in that case perhaps :/ Feb 05 17:36:28 RP: will check Feb 05 17:36:35 hi rp Feb 05 17:36:41 hihi I found a free wlan Feb 05 17:36:45 hi woglinde Feb 05 17:36:49 woglinde: :) Feb 05 17:37:05 seems not all in belgian got it Feb 05 17:37:18 in berlin 99% are now wpa2 Feb 05 17:37:52 kergoth: btw, you might want to look over the mirrors patches to bitbake in poky Feb 05 17:38:08 kergoth: I'm going to propose we throw aware SRC_TARBALL_STASH in bitbake master Feb 05 17:38:15 s/aware/away/ Feb 05 17:38:25 * RP looks sternly at his fingers Feb 05 17:38:37 damn if I knew that I've pass all the exams till now I would be in brussel ;/ Feb 05 17:38:52 ah, will do. Feb 05 17:39:03 * kergoth never did like the tarball stash way of doing things very much Feb 05 17:39:23 wtf.. all of a sudden no patches apply in my build Feb 05 17:39:24 ERROR: Exception:exceptions.IndexError Message:list index out of range Feb 05 17:39:24 soltys: Actually I'm wrong - your problem is missing pkgconfig-native - the PKG macro is unexpanded Feb 05 17:39:29 weird. Feb 05 17:39:45 kergoth: This makes it use MIRRORS and PREMIRRORS instead Feb 05 17:39:50 sweet Feb 05 17:40:00 that's got my vote already, and i haven't looked at the code yet Feb 05 17:40:06 heh Feb 05 17:40:59 kergoth: you can do stuff like PREMIRRORS () { git://.*/.* http://somewhere.com/sources } Feb 05 17:41:08 cool Feb 05 17:41:46 kergoth: which obivously means mutliple SRC_TARBALL stashes become supported Feb 05 17:41:54 yep, that's great Feb 05 17:42:15 I've not thought of all the crazy ways we can break it yet :) Feb 05 17:42:39 heheh Feb 05 17:43:45 erk Feb 05 17:43:53 PATCHRESOLVE = "user" breaks application of non-broken patches Feb 05 17:43:53 haha Feb 05 17:43:59 it only works when .. broken Feb 05 17:44:00 sweet. Feb 05 17:47:25 kergoth: oops :) Feb 05 17:47:36 kergoth: I think poky has a different failure too :/ Feb 05 17:48:02 i'll have to poke at this, I'd really like it to work. can't use devshell, since its task depends on patch Feb 05 17:49:58 RP: thanks, that helped ;) Feb 05 17:51:02 we should think about making devshell a bit smarter. instead of one specific option, give it a priority list of shells to see if you have installed, pick the "best" one, unless you specify otherwise Feb 05 17:51:06 would avoid some confusion, i think Feb 05 17:51:46 kergoth: agreed Feb 05 18:06:04 jo Feb 05 18:06:06 re Feb 05 18:06:09 hotel has wifi too Feb 05 18:06:17 only 5 bucks the whole stay Feb 05 18:06:18 cool Feb 05 18:06:28 nce Feb 05 18:06:57 and bandwith is better than the freeone Feb 05 18:07:25 so now lets check he beer event Feb 05 18:15:49 yay Feb 05 18:16:11 I am sad i will miss FOSDEM, but will get to go to WSR10 instead Feb 05 18:17:00 http://www-int.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de/seiten/conferences/wsr10/ Feb 05 18:17:55 hm Feb 05 18:18:19 hm I should call hrw Feb 05 18:19:16 heh, cool Feb 05 18:20:06 FYI, I'm leaving Cavium/MV. I start work at Mentor Graphics on the 15th. Feb 05 18:20:24 kergoth changing again? Feb 05 18:20:30 heh, indeed Feb 05 18:20:35 *sigh* Feb 05 18:21:10 Still OE work, though. Feb 05 18:21:27 with trini? Feb 05 18:21:40 yep Feb 05 18:21:47 er tartarus Feb 05 18:21:49 :) Feb 05 18:21:54 cool Feb 05 18:21:54 think so, anyway, not sure how things will be organized internally Feb 05 18:21:56 ah oka Feb 05 18:22:01 will you need to move? Feb 05 18:22:01 yy Feb 05 18:22:06 nah, its full telecommute Feb 05 18:22:10 I thought we lost you again Feb 05 18:22:16 hehe, no Feb 05 18:23:34 so if anyone wants a full time position working on MVL6, I'm sure they'll be looking Feb 05 18:23:44 * kergoth liked the position, just had a better opportunity elsewhere Feb 05 18:24:23 more cash? Feb 05 18:25:18 and the telecommute thing, and a bit more architecture work Feb 05 18:25:31 yo Feb 05 18:25:50 by why the name graphics? Feb 05 18:25:53 than Feb 05 18:26:14 their specialty is EDA tools, not sure where the name came from Feb 05 18:26:25 eda? Feb 05 18:26:35 check wikipedia :) Feb 05 18:26:52 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_design_automation Feb 05 18:26:58 hm 2km to beerfest Feb 05 18:27:05 hm Feb 05 18:27:20 so they have some layouts ready Feb 05 18:27:28 or give assistant Feb 05 18:34:12 okay hrw is already there Feb 05 18:36:37 woglinde, tell everyone I said hi and I'm sorry I can't make it Feb 05 18:37:18 crofton sure Feb 05 19:45:37 re Feb 05 21:37:30 re Feb 05 21:41:08 re Feb 05 21:49:02 jo ant Feb 05 21:50:03 hey Feb 05 21:59:34 hmmm, http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/events/emb_cross_build wonder what thats going to cover Feb 05 21:59:45 * kergoth really needs to set aside some cash to hit more conferences next year Feb 05 22:00:00 hehe Feb 05 22:00:09 maybee I should attend this talk Feb 05 22:00:13 lets see Feb 05 22:00:58 hm robert schwebel Feb 05 22:01:34 hm wasnt it robert's idea of a cross post patch mailinglist Feb 05 22:01:50 * kergoth thought the name looked familiar, but couldn't remember why Feb 05 22:05:22 hmm Feb 05 22:05:23 Configuring staging-glib-2.0-native-i686-linux...Done. Feb 05 22:05:23 NOTE: Staging package found but invalid for /oe/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/glib-2.0/glib-2.0_2.22.4.bb Feb 05 22:05:30 ? Feb 05 22:05:59 I think somebody told XorA about this Feb 05 22:06:52 another one: Configuring staging-libxml-parser-perl-native-i686-linux...Done. Feb 05 22:06:52 NOTE: Staging package found but invalid for /oe/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/perl/libxml-parser-perl_2.36.bb Feb 05 22:13:21 eFfeM, hi Feb 05 22:13:48 eFfeM, be shure to bring your imge tomorrow as wifi is not guaranteed at the beginning of fosdem(setup time) Feb 05 22:14:25 gnut hms I forgot to mail the openoffice recipe Feb 05 22:16:47 np Feb 05 22:17:01 I can only look at it after fosdem Feb 05 22:17:28 btw I was told by tuxbrain people that the touchbook is not a good quality produuct as it breaks easily Feb 05 22:17:39 gnutoo which time you will be there? Feb 05 22:17:57 tomorrow Feb 05 22:18:07 I don't know yet but in the morning I think Feb 05 22:18:25 it depends on hot much time the tram takes to arrive etc... Feb 05 22:19:00 gnutoo at which hotel you are staying? Feb 05 22:19:16 wow the maemo fosdem application compiled on my remote laptop...maybe I should do a recipe? Feb 05 22:19:22 country house Feb 05 22:19:27 near brugman Feb 05 22:19:34 square des herau Feb 05 22:19:40 hm Feb 05 22:19:46 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.80211&lon=4.34283&zoom=15&layers=B000FTF Feb 05 22:19:58 I am at beverly hills Feb 05 22:20:03 near louisa Feb 05 22:20:07 ah nice Feb 05 22:20:11 not so far then Feb 05 22:20:26 (if you catch a tram) Feb 05 22:21:02 yupp Feb 05 22:54:23 g.m. Feb 05 22:55:25 I have installed fosdem application on N900. very interesting. the question is: can I use apt-get on OE ? or opkg is safe enough ^ Feb 05 22:57:26 I'd like first something OE integrated and then something safe against power loss **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 06 02:59:56 2010