**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 07 02:59:57 2010 Apr 07 05:44:45 hi, after i bitbake any package like "bitbake qte" where do i actually find it, in the build/deploy folder i suppose??? Apr 07 05:47:53 anyone please do tell me.... Apr 07 06:03:31 yes Apr 07 06:04:02 your OE_TMP/deploy/glibc/ipkg probably Apr 07 06:04:31 it should tell you in the log data as you build the packages the names of the packages that are generated Spyzer. Apr 07 07:28:45 I get a this error when compiling Python "./libpython2.6.so: undefined reference to `_PyParser_Grammar'". I'm almost certain this is the same tree that used to compile before. A clean + compile of python didn't do it. Apr 07 07:37:49 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r97da533bd3 10openembedded.git/recipes/gnome/gnome-control-center_2.30.0.bb: gnome-control-center: drop eel dependency Apr 07 07:37:50 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r8be9b6431d 10openembedded.git/recipes/gnome/gnome-panel_2.30.0.bb: gnome-panel 2.30: add missing dep on libcanberra Apr 07 07:37:51 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r09dc934a6c 10openembedded.git/recipes/nautilus/nautilus_2.30.0.bb: nautilus 2.30: drop eel dependency Apr 07 07:44:16 how was the way to circumvent athe checksum checking on do_fetch ? Apr 07 07:58:04 Is the oe git repository down? Apr 07 08:00:59 Crofton, Crofton|work: I was running into the "INIT: Id "S" respawning too fast" problem with OE lately. Googled showed me that you have been curious how to fix it. Apr 07 08:01:59 For me it was a problem with a really new kernel. .34-rc2. I forgot to enable devtempfs and it seems ttyS2 was not available and init was angry about it. Apr 07 08:02:12 Enabling devtempfs fixed it for me. JFYI Apr 07 08:08:23 good morning Apr 07 08:25:35 I'm trying to setup an SDK for developing on the beagleboard, and I need the beagleboard-patched linux-omap headers instead of the vanilla linux headers. Anyone got a clue how I can do this? I think maybe I can combine the two recipes, but I'm unsure if that's the way to do it. Apr 07 08:32:51 tasslehoff: isnt there a kernel-dev package kicked out of the build? Apr 07 08:43:55 XorA: recompiling base image now to check. sounds promising :) Apr 07 08:53:37 03Paul Menzel  07org.openembedded.dev * r2e3bb0f587 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-driver/xf86-input-evdev_2.4.0.bb: Apr 07 08:53:37 xf86-input-evdev: Add evdev 2.4.0 [1]. Apr 07 08:53:37 [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2010-April/049851.html Apr 07 08:53:37 Signed-off-by: Paul Menzel Apr 07 08:53:37 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Apr 07 08:53:39 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * rfd65783c5e 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-driver/xf86-video-fbdev_0.4.2.bb: Apr 07 08:53:39 xf86-video-fbdev: add version 0.4.2 Apr 07 08:53:39 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Apr 07 08:53:40 03Paul Menzel  07org.openembedded.dev * r61ff97f7e3 10openembedded.git/recipes/libplayer/libplayer.inc: Apr 07 08:53:40 libplayer: Use `${PN}` instead of `libplayer`. Apr 07 08:53:41 Signed-off-by: Paul Menzel Apr 07 08:53:41 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Apr 07 08:53:42 03Paul Menzel  07org.openembedded.dev * r9329265ecd 10openembedded.git/recipes/libplayer/libplayer_hg.bb: Apr 07 08:53:42 libplayer: Update `SRCREV` to 4fb30e64db79 [1]. Apr 07 08:53:43 [1] http://hg.geexbox.org/libplayer/rev/4fb30e64db79 Apr 07 08:53:43 Signed-off-by: Paul Menzel Apr 07 08:53:55 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Apr 07 08:53:55 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * rb580cd049b 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-doc/xorg-sgml-doctools_1.4.bb: Apr 07 08:53:56 xorg-sgml-doctools: add version 1.4 Apr 07 08:53:56 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Apr 07 08:53:57 03Paul Menzel  07org.openembedded.dev * r2e4e91e5dd 10openembedded.git/recipes/libvalhalla/libvalhalla_hg.bb: Apr 07 08:53:58 libvalhalla: Correct `PV` for `libvalhalla_hg.bb`. Apr 07 08:53:58 Otherwise `libvalhalla_1.0.1.bb` is the preferred recipe if `bitbake libvalhalla` is run. Apr 07 08:53:59 Signed-off-by: Paul Menzel Apr 07 08:53:59 Acked-by: Khem Raj Apr 07 08:54:00 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Apr 07 08:54:00 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r3bf054a869 10openembedded.git/recipes/e17/enna/.mtn2git_empty: Apr 07 08:54:01 e17/enna: drop empty directory, enna is now moved to recipes/enna Apr 07 08:54:01 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Apr 07 08:54:02 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * rba6895436c 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-xorg-versions-live.inc: Apr 07 08:54:02 preferred-xorg-versions-live: updated versions Apr 07 08:54:03 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Apr 07 08:54:03 03Paul Menzel  07org.openembedded.dev * reca9a25c75 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (e17/enna_svn.bb enna/enna.inc enna/enna_hg.bb): (log message trimmed) Apr 07 08:54:17 enna: Move to own recipe folder and update to new Enna hg repository. Apr 07 08:54:17 1. Create `enna.inc`. Apr 07 08:54:17 2. Use `INC_PR`. Apr 07 08:54:17 3. Move to new repository location. Apr 07 08:54:18 4. Update license to LGPLv2.1+. Apr 07 08:54:18 5. Build tested with GCC 4.4.3 and Binutils 2.20.1 for `MACHINE = "beagleboard". Apr 07 09:07:43 XorA: I have a kernel-dev ipk in the deploy dir, is that the one you mean? Apr 07 09:07:58 yes Apr 07 09:09:00 XorA: good. but what should/could I do with it? :) Apr 07 09:09:13 install it :-) Apr 07 09:12:32 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * ra36bcd38d7 10openembedded.git/recipes/abiword/abiword_2.8.2.bb: abiword: add 2.8.2 Apr 07 09:12:43 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rc744d30a57 10openembedded.git/recipes/gnome/gnome-mount_0.8.bb: gnome-mount 0.8: clean up recipe Apr 07 09:12:44 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * raa8690aa52 10openembedded.git/recipes/gftp/gftp_2.0.19.bb: gftp 2.0.19: fix src uri name Apr 07 09:15:25 XorA: I guess my ignorance is showing here :). Do you mean on target, or is there a way I can add it to my SDK? The latter is what I'm looking for. Apr 07 09:29:34 tasslehoff: isnt there a script in the SDK for installing target -dev packages? Apr 07 09:29:46 there used to be Im sure Apr 07 09:30:48 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r9dcb92605b 10openembedded.git/recipes/gnome/goffice_0.8.1.bb: goffic: add 0.8.1 Apr 07 09:35:04 morning all Apr 07 09:36:33 hey RP Apr 07 09:43:47 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * ra182472b50 10openembedded.git/recipes/libsigc++-2.0/libsigc++-2.0_2.2.5.bb: libsigc++: add dep on mm-common Apr 07 10:06:31 XorA: Inside the sdk.tar.bz2 you mean? Can't find it, but then again I don't know what I'm looking for.. Apr 07 10:10:19 tasslehoff: I cant remember offhand, something like opkg-install-target Apr 07 10:26:03 XorA: thanks. I think I'll make a post to the mailing list to find the best way to approach my "problem" Apr 07 10:37:32 # mount -t jffs2 mtd:fee00000.flash /mnt/nand/ Apr 07 10:37:32 mount: unknown filesystem type 'jffs2' Apr 07 10:37:39 Ok, hat have I missed? Apr 07 10:37:58 s/hat/what/ Apr 07 10:38:04 MWelchUK_work: well, you don't have jffs2 in your kernel? Apr 07 10:38:26 Ah, yeah - that old kernel support. Apr 07 10:38:54 Cheers zecke_, was on completely the wrong track, thought I'd missed a userspace tool Apr 07 10:45:17 hmm i when i use a float y; variable in a kernel driver at a arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- based toolchain i get unresolved symbols like __aeabi_f2d Apr 07 10:45:59 rob_w, Generally, floating point maths shouldn't be used in the kernel. Apr 07 10:46:19 hmm ok Apr 07 10:52:25 03Xerxes RĂ„nby  07org.openembedded.dev * r9f4743e969 10openembedded.git/classes/cmake.bbclass: classes/cmake.bbclass: make cmake continue if the build dir already exist Apr 07 11:05:56 morning Apr 07 11:09:50 hrw, gm Apr 07 11:18:47 hi hrw Apr 07 11:19:00 hrw: congratulations on the new job! :) Apr 07 11:21:21 :) Apr 07 11:21:48 thanks Richard Apr 07 11:32:00 someone know what recipe provides nm native ? i have tested binutils, binutils-native binutils-cross but they only provide nm for cross compilation Apr 07 11:40:32 im looking into why llvm2.7-native package have stopped building it built fine about half a year ago but now it cant find the native nm during configure Apr 07 11:52:56 florian: which image you built for sim.one to fit in flash? Apr 07 11:54:00 hrw: I didn't fit but almost... I think it was a console image but using the mini distro. Apr 07 11:54:29 I tried Angstrom first but it failed in multiple ways buiding armv4t stuff. Apr 07 11:59:55 sigh, OE wiki spam is out of control Apr 07 12:06:57 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r6859fd82cd 10openembedded.git/recipes/firmwares/ (firmware-ti-wl1251.bb firmware-ti-wl1251/README): firmware-ti-wl1251: new recipe Apr 07 12:07:06 GNUtoo: this is the stub Apr 07 12:09:38 ok Apr 07 12:09:43 cbrake: :-( Apr 07 12:10:06 mickey|office, xf86-video-fbdev seem to display the mouse pointer,xf86-video-msm doesn't Apr 07 12:10:09 cbrake: The linuxtogo wiki asks simple questions... this made the spam go away. Apr 07 12:10:14 s/seem to/ Apr 07 12:21:08 GNUtoo: do you use -hide-cursor perhaps ? Apr 07 12:21:21 i would expect the cursor not be visible all of the time :) Apr 07 12:21:44 although it's not designed for that, i know you like to use the trackball as mouse cursor Apr 07 12:22:23 mickey|office, shr displays cursor Apr 07 12:22:27 with fbdev Apr 07 12:22:29 but not msm Apr 07 12:22:45 perhaps msm doesn't support any cursor Apr 07 12:22:54 (which makes sense, if it's destined for smartphone...) Apr 07 12:23:05 mickey|office, you should try to use the very imprecise touchscreen under SHR,trackball helps a lot Apr 07 12:23:14 hmm Apr 07 12:23:18 imprecise touchscreen? Apr 07 12:23:21 mickey|office, it may be kernel related Apr 07 12:23:23 not here Apr 07 12:23:29 yes you do not have a stylus Apr 07 12:24:04 the UI needs to be adjusted then Apr 07 12:24:11 capacitive touchscreen needs larger elements Apr 07 12:24:20 that's what ELM_FINGER_SIZE is usually for, no? Apr 07 12:24:21 I know,most of it is ok Apr 07 12:24:26 but not everything Apr 07 12:24:43 ELM_FINGER is op Apr 07 12:24:46 *ok Apr 07 12:31:06 of course that only helps for ELM apps ;) Apr 07 12:31:51 ah Apr 07 12:32:13 maybe it looks ok because i modified gtkrc then Apr 07 12:32:20 probably Apr 07 12:32:31 if you set the DPI or font size you can get away with GTK as well Apr 07 12:32:43 just some widgets are notoriously unusable on mobile Apr 07 12:32:45 i modified only font size Apr 07 12:33:01 * mickey|office still waiting for Qt4/QML Apr 07 12:33:25 i m using pidgin under wifi under htcdream under shr right now Apr 07 12:33:43 xchat didnt compile Apr 07 12:33:50 auch... Apr 07 12:33:58 under under under under... Apr 07 12:34:02 lol Apr 07 12:34:06 cool. ifconfig wlan0 crashes the device for you as well? Apr 07 12:34:07 GNUtoo1: and you do that under cover? Apr 07 12:34:17 lol Apr 07 12:36:16 that depends on the kernel config Apr 07 12:36:38 really? Apr 07 12:36:39 how so? Apr 07 12:36:49 dont know yet Apr 07 12:37:09 i must finish the tests and diffs Apr 07 12:38:37 ok Apr 07 12:40:28 Hi. Can anyone point me in the direction of how one would go about building a system that uses initramfs? Apr 07 12:41:17 I have seen some packages, but I don't know how they are supposed to come together. Apr 07 12:42:03 I am using the stable/2009 branch, and my main rootfs is an Angstrom one - not sure if it matters. Apr 07 12:42:42 mickey|office, I bet shr didn't finish the move to fso2 yet Apr 07 12:43:05 definitely not, no, fso2 itself is not finished Apr 07 12:43:11 ok Apr 07 12:43:14 they're right now in the gsm transition Apr 07 12:43:20 mrmoku is working on fsogsmd API support Apr 07 12:43:24 wow Apr 07 12:43:25 ok Apr 07 12:43:35 what's left then is PIM, preferences, and events Apr 07 12:44:04 because I'm thinking about flashing the kernel soon Apr 07 12:44:15 sounds good Apr 07 12:44:29 however, will you want to do that before we have suspend/resume? Apr 07 12:44:30 for that I need phone+routing to headphones Apr 07 12:44:36 ah Apr 07 12:44:40 that should be no problem Apr 07 12:44:42 ah....good point Apr 07 12:44:49 dream routing is almost done Apr 07 12:44:53 just needs a couple of state files Apr 07 12:45:02 not shure if I really need a long battery life for now Apr 07 12:45:13 true Apr 07 12:45:23 but for real operation it's a showstopper :) Apr 07 12:45:31 if you want to take it with you Apr 07 12:45:42 or are you always with your USB cable underway? ;) Apr 07 12:45:43 I'm not out soo long Apr 07 12:45:46 hehe Apr 07 12:45:47 ok Apr 07 12:45:49 then it works for you Apr 07 12:45:54 indeed Apr 07 12:48:52 ok, other than suspend/resume Apr 07 12:48:57 what do we have on the agenda? Apr 07 12:49:04 bluetooth at some point of time Apr 07 12:49:10 gps at some point of time Apr 07 12:49:14 compass/accelerometer Apr 07 12:49:16 anything else? Apr 07 12:49:31 ah let's continue on #htc-linux Apr 07 12:49:34 getting OT here :) Apr 07 12:50:14 ok Apr 07 13:45:02 hi, i did a for mini2440 but am unable to find the development environment in my build directory, may please anyone help me?? Apr 07 13:45:40 i have checked build/tmp/deploy and every folder i can, i just have some "ipk"s which are there in the deploys Apr 07 13:45:43 :( Apr 07 13:47:29 there was no such directory as deploy/"glibc" as suggested to me earlier on this IRC Apr 07 13:48:15 angstrom creates such structure Apr 07 13:48:17 in the deploy directory i only have ipk, pstage and sources directories nothing else Apr 07 13:48:27 someone here tried to build icedtea maybe? Apr 07 13:49:41 i tried to build "qte" sdk for mini2440 so that i can make up some apps for qt embedded, but after successful building, as shown by bitbake, i do not know as to where the SDK is.... Apr 07 13:50:46 GNUtoo, you got any idea over this one?? Apr 07 13:52:30 hey i just got disconnected(internet connectivity of my area sucks), so if anyone just posted something related to my prob, pls do it once again Apr 07 13:53:14 PLS Apr 07 13:53:50 tmp/deploy/sdk? Apr 07 13:54:48 there is no folder named sdk in tmp/deploy ihave only got, tmp/deploy/pstage, tmp/deploy/ipk, tmp/deploy/sources boohooo Apr 07 13:54:52 :( Apr 07 13:55:04 so you did not built sdk Apr 07 13:55:22 bitbake meta-toolchain-qte Apr 07 13:56:32 ok, then what has actually "bitbake qte" done??? Apr 07 13:57:22 it built qte Apr 07 13:57:40 meta-toolchain-qte is rather what you want to use as sdk Apr 07 13:57:54 ok thanks a lot Apr 07 13:57:55 :) Apr 07 14:05:57 hrw: umm.. i am currently doing bitbake meta-toolchain-qte as u suggested but it seems to be downloading Xorg files while as far as i know qte directly draws to framebuffer without the need for Xserver Why is that??(Sorry this is not an oe related question, but still i would love to have an answer) Apr 07 14:07:00 probably some tools used during build req them Apr 07 14:07:16 final sdk should be free of them Apr 07 14:08:02 ohh, that will do it thanks again :) Apr 07 14:50:26 morning Apr 07 14:51:14 g'day kergoth Apr 07 14:51:18 hey pb__ Apr 07 14:51:20 how's it going? Apr 07 14:51:37 not too bad, I guess. just about finished with our office move now. Apr 07 14:51:42 house move is next :-} Apr 07 14:52:54 fun fun Apr 07 14:54:53 yeah. well, I know a lot more about building now than I used to. heh. Apr 07 14:55:03 heh, that's a plus Apr 07 14:55:54 how's life with you, still enjoying your "new" job? Apr 07 14:56:32 For the most part. working from home full time is a slightly different experience, had to find a routine that had enough structure to keep focused.. and feeling slightly out of the loop, not in enough meetings, i guess :) Apr 07 14:57:35 ah right, I hadn't realised you were based at home now. yeah, I bet that takes some getting used to. Apr 07 14:59:01 was one of the big reasons I went with it, I like the flexibility. nice being able to just wander off for an hour if i can't focus rather than staring at my screen and wasting their money and my time :) Apr 07 15:00:53 yeah, makes sense Apr 07 15:03:38 * mwester adds that unless you're careful, the other way round happens with home-based work sometimes -- you'll end up "at work" at midnight sometimes. Apr 07 15:04:28 heh, very true, already did that once, spent a sunday "at work" :) Apr 07 15:06:49 mwester: read the proverb at the bottom of this page :-) http://www.koansoftware.com/en/prf.htm Apr 07 15:07:47 heh, I like that Apr 07 15:08:04 True enough. But difficult to accomplish in real life, I have discovered. Perhaps once the economy gets back on track... Apr 07 15:08:50 seth godin argues that in many jobs nowadays, the largely mechanical bits get automated or outsourced, so we're left with the creative stuff that requires a more full engagement, less of the old work/home separation that existed in previous generations.. Apr 07 15:08:55 * kergoth_ 's reading Linchpin Apr 07 15:11:49 kergoth: heh, I spent a fair bit of last sunday at work, and I don't even work at home :-} Apr 07 15:12:15 heh :) Apr 07 15:13:57 * mckoan thinks that nowadays it's better to work on weekend rather than being made redundant Apr 07 15:14:45 * kergoth_ thinks he's not quite as indispensible in his new job as he was at the old one, yet.. need to fix that Apr 07 15:20:45 hey zecke Apr 07 16:01:23 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r30a913149d 10openembedded.git/ (78 files in 35 dirs): Apr 07 16:01:23 recipes: move SRCREVs also to git recipes Apr 07 16:01:23 * Following revs weren't used in OE tree (based on PN check) Apr 07 16:01:23 * SRCREV_pn-fsod ?= "2a33e5ffe96c611e6a6b8b6c33d2a83ba656f55b" Apr 07 16:01:23 * SRCREV_pn-linux-sgh-i900 ?= "7e5f8bd3864485e5fc66cb946e09f18b5a32cebc" Apr 07 16:01:23 * SRCREV_pn-pygsm ?= "976477f6b403f422b4ea730f71ebf409f6671141" Apr 07 16:01:24 * SRCREV_pn-u-boot-openmoko-devel ?= "ba029a1426bfca169572bf80d50a8b190a6b0e19" Apr 07 16:01:24 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r17ef72525c 10openembedded.git/ (41 files in 5 dirs): Apr 07 16:01:25 freesmartphone: move SRCREVs to recipes Apr 07 16:01:25 * simplify fso-autorev Apr 07 16:01:26 * move cornucopia and python-helpers rev to sane-srcrevs.inc Apr 07 16:01:26 * drop SRCREV for removed recipes fsolocationd, fsotimed, vala-native Apr 07 16:01:27 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r076c66f9bb 10openembedded.git/recipes/shr/e-wm-theme-illume-gry_git.bb: e-wm-theme-illume-gry: bump SRCREV Apr 07 16:01:28 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * rc370ecd79e 10openembedded.git/recipes/shr/shr-e-gadgets_git.bb: shr-e-gadgets: bump SRCREV Apr 07 16:01:38 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * ra0df7fd2dd 10openembedded.git/recipes/serial-utils/serial-forward.bb: serial-forward: rename recipe to show that it's git based Apr 07 16:03:29 ^ 101 conflicts for shr/unstable branch.. Apr 07 16:19:31 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r4ca3287b3e 10openembedded.git/recipes/freesmartphone/opimd-utils_git.bb: opimd-utils: update PV to correspond with SRCREV Apr 07 16:28:01 hi while doing bitbake meta-toolchain-qte i am getting "Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.23.6' but version of GLib is 2.22.1" and then bitbake terminates later at some stage saying that something/something/glib failed ?? Apr 07 16:29:06 denix: Good (bad) news, managed to hit that pstaging issue where libc-initial is unpacked after libc Apr 07 16:29:10 ERROR: 'virtual:native:/media/Stuffs/Linux/embedded/toolchain/openembedded/recipes/gtk+/gtk+_2.20.0.bb' failed Apr 07 16:29:18 this kind of error is ocurring Apr 07 16:29:26 please help anyone Apr 07 16:29:44 it is occurring again and again Apr 07 16:29:49 that error doesn't tell us anything. it also gave you a log file where you can see the actual error message Apr 07 16:30:41 umm sorry but that log file shall be in which directory ?? sorry for the lameness here Apr 07 16:30:59 it gives you the log file name Apr 07 16:31:04 like 2 lines above the message you pasted. Apr 07 16:31:04 read it Apr 07 16:33:03 i hope this might help http://pastebin.com/f602dSiE Apr 07 16:33:37 that isn't an error. Apr 07 16:33:47 look at the end of the log file, not the beginning Apr 07 16:34:25 autoreconf: configure.in: not using Gettext but how can i fix that Apr 07 16:34:26 ?? Apr 07 16:34:47 do i need to install any dependencies in this case Apr 07 16:35:00 or set up any environment variables?? Apr 07 16:35:13 Spyzer: just out of curiousity. Which distro and machine are you building for? Apr 07 16:35:25 i am building for mini2440 Apr 07 16:35:32 and sitro is minimal Apr 07 16:35:37 *sitro distro Apr 07 16:35:51 should i alter something here?? Apr 07 16:36:18 Spyzer: MACHINE="mini2440", DISTRO="minimal", I'm running regular builds of meta-toolchain-qte with the angstrom distro, I have not used DISTRO="minimal" in a while. Apr 07 16:36:36 so which Distro should i use exactly Apr 07 16:36:50 i mean i want to build a qt embeded app Apr 07 16:36:56 for mini2440 Apr 07 16:37:33 Spyzer: try with DISTRO="angstrom-2008.1", I will try to do a build of your config tonight Apr 07 16:37:50 thanks i am gonna try it now Apr 07 16:42:06 hey , does someone know whats background color of psplash image ? , and can i change background color of psplash image ? Apr 07 16:43:01 JDuke128: you can change graphics Apr 07 16:43:46 how can i change background color ? Apr 07 16:44:30 i have one question what does "distro" actually specify in a <.conf> file Apr 07 16:45:15 because i can build an opie image with distro as angstrom what does that mean, opie in itself is a distro, isn't it?? Apr 07 16:45:17 hrw , graphics ? Apr 07 16:45:28 Spyzer: check conf/bitbake.conf and search for DISTRO Apr 07 16:45:33 hrw , i can change psplash but it has background color Apr 07 16:45:59 JDuke128: during build psplash reads psplash.h which has picture as CSource Apr 07 16:47:25 isorry but i have already read that, i should frame my question in this way, opie itself acts as an embedded distro, yet in my local.conf i make and then i do a bitbake opie-image, so i am unable to get the logic behind this Apr 07 16:48:11 opie isn't a distro, it's a UI Apr 07 16:48:24 angstrom is the distro, that image happens to include opie. yfrom __future__ import with_statement Apr 07 16:48:31 er, damn clipboard Apr 07 16:48:39 you could easily build other images that include other user interfaces. Apr 07 16:50:52 ok, what are the things which get installed when we specify a particular distro?? specific device drivers of softwares?? Apr 07 16:51:36 distro defines policy, not hardware, or packages. Apr 07 16:51:46 poilcy?? Apr 07 16:51:57 recipes control what gets built and placed in the image. the MACHINE controls what kernel is used, what kernel modules are built, etc. Apr 07 16:52:01 yes, things like what package manager is used Apr 07 16:52:04 package naming conventions Apr 07 16:52:07 high level decisions Apr 07 16:53:20 hmm.. so specifying a distro means specifying a particular configuration, am i right in some way?? Apr 07 16:54:55 can the DISTRO value(minimal, angstrom etc.) affect the size of the image I am building, like opie-image Apr 07 16:54:57 ?? Apr 07 16:55:07 Spyzer: yes Apr 07 16:55:25 hi florian, long time no see Apr 07 16:55:58 Spyzer: well, it depends. e.g. when you set DISTRO to angstrom it does not mean you can not build small packages. Apr 07 16:56:02 Spyzer: yes indeed... toom uch work for talking much Apr 07 16:57:01 Spyzer: The most likely side effect on image size is that some distro defaults to install a set of packages to every image. Apr 07 16:57:46 okay so suppose i make my own image, which only has a qt embedded application and required qte dependencies only(and kernel ofcourse), so now if i do bitbake my-image then will it have different sizes for minimal and angstrom?? Apr 07 16:59:32 i hope i am not causing a distraction here, just trying to resolve my problems :) Apr 07 17:01:59 i hope i didn't get disconnected, i was asking that for my own customized image (for which i have set the particular packages) then shall it have different sizes for DISTRO=angstrom & DISTRO=minimal. I ask this, bcoz i want to build my image to be of as less size as possible Apr 07 17:04:14 umm some help... Apr 07 17:05:39 * hrw -> out Apr 07 17:05:48 people have more to do than just sit here responding to you instantly. learn some patience. Apr 07 17:06:03 some of us have real jobs to be doing Apr 07 17:06:51 we are supposed to be doing anyway Apr 07 17:07:11 Spyzer: well, take your image and look what is getting installed. look at the files that are used to make up the image Apr 07 17:07:35 Spyzer, build both and tell us if the image sizes are different Apr 07 17:07:38 Spyzer: one part of a distro is default policies, this includes base service (udev vs. mdev, it can be changed per image as well too) Apr 07 17:07:47 for those cases, I would expect them to be very similar Apr 07 17:07:53 sorry kergoth_ Apr 07 17:08:09 ok i will Apr 07 18:12:56 i'm building a meta toolchain and opkg-cl is linking in openssl from OE's host library directory (tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/lib/lib{ssl,crypto}...) Apr 07 18:13:16 the final sdk tarball does not include the openssl libraries for the host Apr 07 18:13:22 does anyone know what may be wrong? Apr 07 19:40:30 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * re78bc48070 10openembedded.git/recipes/bluez/bluez4.inc: Apr 07 19:40:31 bluez4: add udev rules to FILES_${PN} Apr 07 19:40:31 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Apr 08 00:12:08 has anyone used the 0.65mm module with the omap3evm? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 08 02:59:56 2010