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May 19 03:13:44 <CIA-2> 03Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r53879eb59b 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/matrix-gui_svn.bb: matrix-gui: bump the rev, change LICENSE to BSD
May 19 03:13:45 <CIA-2> 03Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3d81babea5 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/matrix-tui_svn.bb: matrix-tui: bump the rev, change LICENSE to BSD
May 19 03:13:47 <CIA-2> 03Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd798f7e9fe 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/am-benchmarks_svn.bb: am-benchmarks: bump the rev
May 19 03:46:06 <CIA-2> 03Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5deb2f2b20 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/dm3730-am3715-evm.conf: 
May 19 03:46:06 <CIA-2> dm3730-am3715-evm: disable virtual console, set JFFS2 erase block
May 19 03:46:06 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org>
May 19 04:02:06 <CIA-2> 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r35d92bf240 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
May 19 04:02:06 <CIA-2> linux-ixp4xx: Add a patch to avoid a name clash with the C library on
May 19 04:02:06 <CIA-2> recent buildhosts. This will not change the generated binary; it merely
May 19 04:02:06 <CIA-2> facilitates building the kernel and modules.
May 19 07:04:57 <hrw> morning
May 19 07:05:03 <JaMa> morning
May 19 07:05:07 <eFfeM_work> hi
May 19 07:06:11 <Spyzer> morning
May 19 07:09:17 <ericben> hi
May 19 07:10:11 <Spyzer> ericben: i have tried tekkaman uboot as well. It loads in to the ram f9 but on burning to nand and rebooting , shell doesn't appear??
May 19 07:11:25 <Spyzer> ericben: i believe that the memory addresses i use for loading the uboot are wrong.
May 19 07:11:45 <Spyzer> A 64 M nand has one bank, how many does a 256M might have??
May 19 07:12:35 <Spyzer> plus the tekkaman kernel itself doesn't loads on memory addresees like 0x32000000 or 0x31000000 but on 0x33f80000, why so??
May 19 07:14:08 <ericben> Spyzer: I don't know anything about this board. If following guides you find on internet doesn't work it may mean that your board is different than the one which are used by the people who wrote the documentation. Why don't you ask to the manufacturer ?
May 19 07:15:11 <Spyzer> ok
May 19 07:16:29 <florian> good morning
May 19 07:25:22 <Spyzer> ericben: do u know how does page size and sector size can get involve in loading uboot??
May 19 07:26:49 <Spyzer> fo a 64M nand the page size is 512 and for 256M its 2048
May 19 07:27:04 <Spyzer> can this thing get into the way of loading a uboot into nand
May 19 07:28:01 <Spyzer> also it shows something like bad crc or nand loading default environment , when i do go 0x33f80000
May 19 07:28:15 <ericben> Spyzer: so u-boot starts !
May 19 07:28:52 <ericben> Spyzer: http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/UBootPowerOn
May 19 07:28:57 <Spyzer> yes, but only in the nor mode, not in nand
May 19 07:29:50 <Spyzer> when i am trying to write the uboot to nand through nor mode only then uboot starts, after i ahev burned it using some commands, and switch to nand, nothing boots
May 19 07:29:56 <Spyzer> or something weird happens
May 19 07:32:31 <ericben> Spyzer: the uboot you burn in nand must be configured for nand boot and that usually depends on the CPU you are using and its way to boot from the nand.
May 19 07:34:01 <Spyzer> ericben: when i do a nand createbbt it tells some addresses , do i need those to burn the nand??
May 19 07:34:17 <ericben> Spyzer: I don't know
May 19 07:34:21 <tsjsieb> goodmorning
May 19 07:34:46 <Spyzer> this is my 3rd day with mini2440 and uboot stucking
May 19 07:35:08 <Spyzer> even my tears have dried up now :P
May 19 07:37:11 <Spyzer> dynpart means partitioning the nand, can i do it while i am in the nor mode and using uboot??
May 19 07:37:37 <Spyzer> or should i do it after i have loaded into the nand uboot
May 19 07:37:50 <Spyzer> in one tutorial they do it before??
May 19 07:40:06 <ericben> ask to this group : http://groups.google.com/group/mini2440
May 19 07:41:13 <Spyzer> ericben: what is baudrate??
May 19 07:42:23 <ericben> Spyzer: if that's not a joke you will find details here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudrate
May 19 07:42:43 <Spyzer> ericben: :D
May 19 07:53:20 <mckoan> good morning
May 19 07:54:18 <florian> hi mckoan 
May 19 08:30:05 <eFfeM_work> hi, in BBFILE_PATTERN_upstream = "${OE_HOME}/org.openembedded.dev"  is OE_HOME a shell env var or a python/bitbake var ?
May 19 08:30:40 <likewise> good morning all
May 19 08:31:07 <likewise> eFfeM_work: shell environment var
May 19 08:31:35 <eFfeM_work> issue is that if I do export OE_HOME=${HOME}/oe  the var apparently is not used, whereas if in the local.conf I say OE_HOME = "${TOPDIR}" is *does* work
May 19 08:31:51 <eFfeM_work> likewise, hi & thought that too, but could not find the place where it is expanded
May 19 08:32:01 <eFfeM_work> but i am not a python wiz
May 19 08:32:14 <eFfeM_work> btw TOPDIR is also a python var
May 19 08:32:23 <likewise> there is a bitbake environment variables blacklist and whitelist, maybe that's an issue here?
May 19 08:32:26 <ericben> eFfeM_work: I think it needs to be in BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE
May 19 08:32:32 <likewise> BB_EXTRAWHITE (or somesuch)?
May 19 08:32:45 <likewise> I concur with ericben :-)
May 19 08:33:32 <eFfeM_work> ericben, likewise, thanks, checking that
May 19 08:35:58 <eFfeM_work> got it, thanks alot, man says: Finally, if you wish to allow BitBake to inherit         the $OEBASE variable from the  environment, you will         need to set the BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE  variable:          
May 19 08:37:35 <eFfeM_work> added it, thanks, guess bb could use some additional error checking if BBFILE_PATTERN dirs exist
May 19 08:46:33 <hrw> sign of times - I unsubscribed from Poky ML
May 19 08:47:03 <djdeath> ?
May 19 08:47:46 <JaMa> enough joy from new work? :)
May 19 08:48:13 <hrw> JaMa: lack of any Poky related things
May 19 08:48:52 <djdeath> what's your new work ?
May 19 08:48:59 <hrw> djdeath: Ubuntu/ARM
May 19 08:56:12 <djdeath> hrw: indeed, you don't need poky anymore ;)
May 19 08:57:11 <hrw> djdeath: TI guys presented OMAP4 Blaze at UDS with Ubuntu 10.04 and then booted to Poky for GL/ES and 1080p playing demos
May 19 08:58:43 <djdeath> hrw: ahaha ;)
May 19 08:59:24 <hrw> have to admit that gl/es demo with rotating cube playing video stream on each surface was nice
May 19 08:59:44 <djdeath> but easy ...
May 19 09:00:01 <hrw> that makes me want pandaboard
May 19 09:00:05 <djdeath> we did the same thing with intel ce3100 here
May 19 09:00:33 <hrw> djdeath: sure, but in x86 world this is normal thing due to fast cpus/gpus
May 19 09:00:38 <djdeath> but intel guyz suck so much at build systems....
May 19 09:00:43 <hrw> djdeath: in ARM world it is other thing
May 19 09:00:48 <djdeath> hrw: no.
May 19 09:01:02 <djdeath> hrw: we dont do anything in software
May 19 09:01:09 <hrw> djdeath: there are people at Intel which are genius at build systems. RP for example
May 19 09:01:52 <djdeath> hrw: we're using hardware audio/video decoding + powervr gpu
May 19 09:02:10 <djdeath> hrw: also identical to the beagleboard one
May 19 09:02:56 <djdeath> hrw: obviously he doesn't work in the intel STB team ;)
May 19 09:04:24 <hrw> I hope to be able to put hands on pandaboard when it will be available
May 19 09:04:42 <djdeath> is it opensource hardware ?
May 19 09:07:08 <hrw> it is omap4 based beagleboard-like board
May 19 09:30:52 <CIA-2> 03Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r05a44074d4 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/ti-msp430-chronos_1.05.00.00.bb: 
May 19 09:30:52 <CIA-2> ti-msp430-chronos: Add initial recipe for msp430 chronos watch support
May 19 09:30:52 <CIA-2> * This recipe downloads and unpacks installer and installs the tcl scripts
May 19 09:30:52 <CIA-2> for the Control Center tools
May 19 09:30:52 <CIA-2> * Currently installing into MACHINE ARCH, which could be moved later.
May 19 09:30:53 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com>
May 19 09:30:54 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <k-kooi@ti.com>
May 19 09:31:00 <CIA-2> 03Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r98ec975e54 10openembedded.git/recipes/xdotool/xdotool_1.20100416.2809.bb: 
May 19 09:31:00 <CIA-2> xdotool: Add initial support for xdotool
May 19 09:31:00 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com>
May 19 09:31:00 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <k-kooi@ti.com>
May 19 09:54:19 <zecke> woglinde: ping?
May 19 09:54:47 <woglinde> zecke pong
May 19 10:02:46 <zecke> woglinde: hey, I have my T^2 in taipei..
May 19 10:03:27 <woglinde> what?
May 19 10:04:04 <zecke> woglinde: my DVB-T Cinergy T square, is in taipei
May 19 10:04:51 <woglinde> ah okay
May 19 10:04:58 <woglinde> I will bring mine with me
May 19 10:22:10 <vonami|work> sometimes bitbake hangs forever after a "NOTE: Staging package found, using it for <some package name>"
May 19 10:22:25 <vonami|work> any hints?
May 19 11:56:07 * eFfeM_work is wondering if there is another (better?) doc on prebuilt toolchains than http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/usermanual.html#commonuse_prebuilt_toolchain
May 19 12:02:10 <hrw> eFfeM_work: poky handbook?
May 19 12:03:15 <soltys> morning
May 19 12:06:34 <eFfeM_work> hrw, found this: http://www.pokylinux.org/doc/poky-handbook.html but that does not really help, I want to use an external compiler (and libc) to compile recipes
May 19 12:09:28 <CIA-2> 03Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3e51206d0d 10openembedded.git/recipes/orc/ (files/044_orcutils.patch orc_0.4.4.bb): 
May 19 12:09:28 <CIA-2> orc: add version 0.4.4
May 19 12:09:28 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com>
May 19 12:09:30 <CIA-2> 03Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdb531256a7 10openembedded.git/recipes/prelink/prelink_20090925.bb: 
May 19 12:09:30 <CIA-2> prelink_20090925: allow dynamic linking of prelink
May 19 12:09:30 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com>
May 19 12:09:31 <CIA-2> 03Eric Benard <eric@eukrea.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9795ce18d2 10openembedded.git/recipes/libmimedir/libmimedir_0.4.2.bb: 
May 19 12:09:31 <CIA-2> libmimedir: add glib-2.0 dependency
May 19 12:09:31 <CIA-2> * bitbake meta-toolchain with task-sdk-base fails without this when
May 19 12:09:32 <CIA-2> runned from scratch with the following error log :
May 19 12:09:32 <CIA-2> mimedir-attachment.h:24:18: error: glib.h: No such file or directory
May 19 12:09:33 <CIA-2> mimedir-attachment.h:25:25: error: glib-object.h: No such file or directory
May 19 12:09:33 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com>
May 19 12:09:34 <CIA-2> 03Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5474c07945 10openembedded.git/recipes/orc/ (orc.inc orc_0.4.3.bb): 
May 19 12:09:34 <CIA-2> orc-native: fix temporary files'path
May 19 12:09:35 <CIA-2> * orcc is using /tmp for temporary file which leads to
May 19 12:24:33 <CIA-2> 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * re92042a4e0 10openembedded.git/recipes/tcltk/ (11 files in 2 dirs): tk: add 8.5.8
May 19 12:24:45 <CIA-2> 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0ad7f1f257 10openembedded.git/recipes/tcltk/ (10 files in 2 dirs): tcl: add 8.5.8
May 19 12:25:13 <CIA-2> 03Michael Lippautz <michael.lippautz@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4f15295e5b 10openembedded.git/recipes/gpsd/ (files/gpsd gpsd.inc gpsd_2.94.bb): 
May 19 12:25:13 <CIA-2> gpsd: Add version 2.94
May 19 12:25:13 <CIA-2> * Makes python-pygps usable again (2.91 lacks bindings)
May 19 12:27:59 <CIA-2> 03Michael Lippautz <michael.lippautz@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r015cb8225d 10openembedded.git/recipes/python/python-xmpppy_0.5.0rc1.bb: 
May 19 12:27:59 <CIA-2> python-xmpppy: Add recipe
May 19 12:27:59 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Michael Lippautz <michael.lippautz@gmail.com>
May 19 13:52:40 <konni> hi - i have the same problem as shown here: http://pastebin.com/NLUHHbzM - the configuration af libiconv fails because usr/share/gettext/config.rpath is missing
May 19 13:52:55 <konni> does anyone have a solution?
May 19 13:54:42 <woglinde> bitbake gettext
May 19 13:54:53 <woglinde> are you building with uclibc?
May 19 13:55:15 <woglinde> args
May 19 13:55:16 <woglinde> sure
May 19 13:55:21 <woglinde> its in the posting
May 19 13:56:32 <woglinde> hm maybee we need a boostrap gettext which installs only rpath and stuff
May 19 13:58:20 <konni> i did not post that, but its identical to what i get
May 19 13:58:29 <konni> im also using uclibc
May 19 13:58:32 <woglinde> yes
May 19 13:58:46 <woglinde> what happens when you type bitbake gettext
May 19 13:59:01 <konni> bitbake gettext tries to build libiconv first :)
May 19 13:59:10 <woglinde> yeah thats what I tought
May 19 14:03:56 <Openfree> how to use the -dbg packages, should I copy files under /usr/lib/.debug/ to /usr/lib/??
May 19 14:04:54 <woglinde> Openfree normaly this done automagicly
May 19 14:05:25 <woglinde> if you dont modify PACKAGES
May 19 14:05:39 <woglinde> you should get -dbg package with all included
May 19 14:06:54 <CIA-2> 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4e62775c6f 10openembedded.git/recipes/tcltk/tk_8.5.8.bb: tk 8.5.8: reintroduce .so workaround
May 19 14:12:21 <woglinde> hui
May 19 14:12:40 <woglinde> openembedded comming soon to your hp-laser-printer
May 19 14:13:16 <florian> heh true
May 19 14:14:04 <woglinde> dont know what the want with javascript-gui
May 19 14:14:10 <woglinde> on the printers
May 19 14:15:04 <florian> woglinde: take a look on modern printers. they do have more and more standalone functions... 
May 19 14:15:28 <woglinde> florian?
May 19 14:15:47 <woglinde> yeah but no 400x320 touchscreen
May 19 14:15:56 <woglinde> mostly lcd
May 19 14:16:47 <florian> woglinde: these are coming... even our chap inkjet has a tft by now. you can even print dvd labels without a pc.
May 19 14:16:50 <ericben> woglinde: multi function doing printer/scanner/fax/network/pdf/... have touch & lcd
May 19 14:17:17 <woglinde> ericben hm okay
May 19 14:18:04 <woglinde> I hope HP now gives something back tous
May 19 14:18:15 <woglinde> okay have to go for now
May 19 14:18:17 <woglinde> till later
May 19 14:23:47 <Openfree> woglinde, I mean after I install -dbg packages, files will go to .debug directory? but how to use it, will my application find these library/application?
May 19 14:52:26 <CIA-2> 03Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r49a1f4bdb3 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-davinci/hawkboard/patch-2.6.33rc4-psp-to-hawkboard.patch: 
May 19 14:52:26 <CIA-2> linux-davinci: Fix Hawkboard RTC configuration causing hang
May 19 14:52:26 <CIA-2> * RTC shouldn't touch RTC registers unless the hardware driver is configured
May 19 14:52:26 <CIA-2> * Debug tracked down thanks to laurent.dufrechou@gmail.com
May 19 14:52:26 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com>
May 19 14:52:27 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <k-kooi@ti.com>
May 19 14:52:28 <CIA-2> 03Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r8a50e39aea 10openembedded.git/ (7 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
May 19 14:52:28 <CIA-2> linux-davinci: Update to latest kernel for DA8xx/OMAPL1xx
May 19 14:52:29 <CIA-2> * Update to latest kernel patches PSP 3.20.00.12
May 19 14:52:29 <CIA-2> * Still 2.6.33rc4
May 19 14:52:30 <CIA-2> * Update defconfigs to match updated kernel configs
May 19 14:52:30 <CIA-2> * Bump Kernel PR
May 19 14:52:31 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com>
May 19 15:02:01 <CIA-2> 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rfa21428ef1 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/shr.conf: 
May 19 15:02:01 <CIA-2> shr: add tk to DISTRO_FEATURES for python-idle->python-tkinter fix
May 19 15:02:01 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
May 19 15:02:11 <CIA-2> 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5083d49cb3 10openembedded.git/recipes/navit/ (files/shr/osd.xml navit-icons_svn.bb navit_svn.bb): 
May 19 15:02:11 <CIA-2> navit: bump SRCREV (also for navit-icons) and add new osd layout from undrwater for SHR as default
May 19 15:02:11 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
May 19 16:46:24 <kergoth_> hmm, is phillip zabel on irc?
May 19 16:59:35 <CIA-2> 03Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r93e990fb4f 10openembedded.git/recipes/xdotool/xdotool_1.20100416.2809.bb: 
May 19 16:59:35 <CIA-2> xdotool: Change license to MIT
May 19 16:59:35 <CIA-2> * COPYRIGHT text suggests MIT license
May 19 16:59:35 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com>
May 19 16:59:35 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <k-kooi@ti.com>
May 19 16:59:46 <CIA-2> 03Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r8839e15f07 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/ti-msp430-chronos_1.05.00.00.bb: 
May 19 16:59:46 <CIA-2> ti-msp430-chronos: Add RDEPEND on tk, fix dos2unix
May 19 16:59:46 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com>
May 19 16:59:46 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <k-kooi@ti.com>
May 19 17:30:21 <florian> re
May 19 17:32:16 <kergoth_> hey florian 
May 19 17:34:37 <mickeyl> hrw|gone: firmware moko11 is available through wiki.openmoko.org, this will fix operation w/ most 3G cards
May 19 19:25:33 <CIA-2> 03Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rce97559acd 10openembedded.git/recipes/firmwares/ (firmware-marvell-sd8688_10.38.1-p25.bb linux-firmware.inc): 
May 19 19:25:33 <CIA-2> firmware-marvell-sd8688: add recipe
May 19 19:25:33 <CIA-2> * introduce linux-firmware.inc which allows to easily fetch firmwares
May 19 19:25:33 <CIA-2> for lot of devices.
May 19 19:25:33 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com>
May 19 19:29:58 <GNUtoo> lol +LICENCE = "closed"
May 19 19:30:09 <GNUtoo> I'm not shure we have such license
May 19 19:30:17 <GNUtoo> I'll check
May 19 19:30:33 <ericben|away> GNUtoo: that's what was for the other marvell firmware already available
May 19 19:30:50 <GNUtoo> ah ok
May 19 19:32:24 <ericben> maybe Proprietary would be better
May 19 19:33:16 <GNUtoo> seem that we have only Artistic  BSD  GFDL-1.2  GPL-2  GPL-3  LGPL-2  LGPL-2.1  LGPL-3
May 19 19:33:39 <GNUtoo> recipes/base-files/base-files/licenses
May 19 19:33:46 <ericben> in conf/licenses.conf there are many licenses listed
May 19 19:33:53 <Tartarus> Yeah
May 19 19:33:57 <Tartarus> conf/licenses.conf is more authoratitive
May 19 19:34:09 <GNUtoo> ok 
May 19 19:34:14 <Tartarus> Stuff in base files just means license texts that exist in some form
May 19 19:34:15 <ericben> and the firmware comes with its licence 
May 19 19:34:21 <GNUtoo> I wondered why there was more stuff in licenses.conf
May 19 19:34:23 <ericben> in lib/firmware
May 19 19:34:26 <Tartarus> Sec, lemme dig up a site we should probably care more about
May 19 19:34:42 <Tartarus> licenses.conf is what's actually used in the metadata in other places where we care about that kind of thing
May 19 19:34:48 <GNUtoo> ok
May 19 19:35:03 <GNUtoo> btw is there a bitbake distribute-sources
May 19 19:35:07 <GNUtoo> or something like that?
May 19 19:35:20 <ericben> licenses.conf seems to be used to fill SRC_DISTRIBUTE_LICENSES
May 19 19:36:05 <Tartarus> It's used there, yes
May 19 19:36:11 <Tartarus> And other folks leverage it too
May 19 19:36:33 <Tartarus> Bah, can't find a project page
May 19 19:36:36 <ericben> "other folks" ?
May 19 19:36:37 <Tartarus> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/linuxcon2010/stewart
May 19 19:36:56 <GNUtoo> ericben, there is a git for firmwares at kernel.org I think
May 19 19:36:57 <Tartarus> That particular project, something OE should possibly care about too (and may or may not be already)
May 19 19:37:19 <Tartarus> ericben: Yes, the various companies that use OE in commercial environments and like say denix who are pushing updates to the LICENSE field
May 19 19:37:31 <ericben> GNUtoo: that's the git I'm using
May 19 19:37:45 <GNUtoo> ok
May 19 19:38:16 <ericben> Tartarus: OK, btw, where is used SRC_DISTRIBUTE_LICENSES ?
May 19 19:38:39 <ericben> a grep in openembedded & bitbake didn't show me anything
May 19 19:40:29 <ericben> and bonus question : is there an easy way in OE to do something like this : http://opensource.palm.com/1.4.1.1/index.html
May 19 19:41:24 <likewise> ericben: good point
May 19 19:41:25 <Tartarus> ericben: "folks have" but not public today
May 19 19:41:59 <Tartarus> ericben: Er.. openembedded/classes/src_distribute.bbclass 
May 19 19:42:28 <Tartarus> That makes use of that info in general, at leastr
May 19 19:42:42 <denix> for some amusement: grep 'LICENSE[ ]\??\?=' recipes/ -r|cut -d '"' -f 2|sort|uniq
May 19 19:44:57 <denix> ericben: I have something similar, see example - http://arago-project.org/files/short-term/misc/arago-amsdk-image-manifest.html
May 19 19:45:18 <ericben> denix: interesting
May 19 19:45:19 <denix> unfortunately, "modified" field is not yet automatically filled in...
May 19 19:46:17 <denix> the script is at http://arago-project.org/git/arago-utils.git
May 19 19:46:36 <ericben> I was going to ask the question, thanks !
May 19 19:46:37 <GNUtoo> nice
May 19 19:49:18 <GNUtoo> maybe I should ship my source dir but it's huge...
May 19 19:54:38 <CIA-2> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r16d2cc3257 10openembedded.git/classes/python-dir.bbclass: 
May 19 19:54:38 <CIA-2> python-dir: raise an Exception instance, not a string
May 19 19:54:38 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
May 19 19:54:40 <CIA-2> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9026e6ae69 10openembedded.git/recipes/net-tools/net-tools_1.60.bb: 
May 19 19:54:40 <CIA-2> net-tools: use bitbake variables rather than shell variables in do_compile
May 19 19:54:40 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
May 19 19:54:41 <CIA-2> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdd80fc5482 10openembedded.git/recipes/cherokee/ (cherokee_0.4.29.bb cherokee_0.5.3.bb cherokee_0.5.5.bb): 
May 19 19:54:41 <CIA-2> cherokee: use the bitbake BUILD_CC variable rather than the exported shell variable
May 19 19:54:41 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
May 19 19:54:43 <CIA-2> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdc079bbb46 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (servlet-api/jsp2.0_5.5.26.bb xapian/xapian-quickstart.inc): 
May 19 19:54:43 <CIA-2> Fix a couple shell syntax errors in recipes
May 19 19:54:43 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
May 19 19:56:33 <ericben> denix: your script is interesting, thanks, if I manage to find time I'll try to find a way to fill modified field
May 19 20:00:12 <denix> ericben: thanks. it's quite new - I have some more ideas for improvements and enhancements...
May 19 20:02:38 <denix> koen has merged my code back into narcissus, so it now generates similar manifests when creating images
May 19 20:04:11 <denix> but I rather prefer building my images from sources instead of assembling them from binary feeds... I guess I'm an old dog :)
May 19 20:15:12 <ericben> denix: "proprietary-binary" you are using for ligles* seems to be a good licence also for firmware
May 19 20:18:18 <CIA-2> 03Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9ea3fb75e6 10openembedded.git/recipes/alsa/alsa-utils_1.0.20.bb: alsa-utils: inherit gettext instead of adding it in DEPENDS
May 19 20:36:41 <ant__> RP: ping
May 19 20:37:44 <likewise> denix: grep -rn -e 'DEPENDS' recipes/ | grep gettext | wc -l gives 64, do they all need conversion?
May 19 20:47:39 <kergoth_> likewise: pretty sure its never right to do that directly, but instead to inherit gettext, but i haven't dealt with that crap in a while either :)
May 19 20:47:43 <kergoth_> hrm
May 19 20:48:27 <kergoth_> whee, making good progress on the varref / signature stuff
May 19 20:49:05 <kergoth_> now to explicitly declare var refs for the packaging tasks
May 19 20:53:41 <flacom> hi all...I'm starting with bleagleboard and openembedded... how can I add packages to the x11-image created?
May 19 20:58:36 <denix> likewise: not sure if all 64 cases need changing, but I was fixing a specific issue explained @ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/32386
May 19 20:59:38 <denix> likewise: if you can feed the output of your command to xargs bitbake -b and see if all of them fail with missing gettext/config.rpath :)
May 19 20:59:53 <ant__> likewise: I encountered some building console, opie and x11-image
May 19 21:00:31 <ant__> see same thread
May 19 21:03:14 <kergoth_> hrm
May 19 21:04:38 <likewise> denix, ant__, kergoth : tnx. can someone send me more time or slow my clock?
May 19 21:12:36 <denix> likewise: can't do - I don't have enough of it for myself... :)
May 19 21:13:35 <ant__> Jay7: hello
May 19 21:13:40 <likewise> denix: spend it wisely then :-) (But I know you do, great project :-) )
May 19 21:14:56 <CIA-2> 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r81a3db27c3 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-driver/ (xf86-video-glamo/modesetting.patch xf86-video-glamo_git.bb): 
May 19 21:14:56 <CIA-2> xf86-video-glamo: bump SRCREV, remove pushed patch and -pedantic removal (already in git)
May 19 21:14:56 <CIA-2> Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
May 19 21:15:02 <denix> likewise: thanks!
May 19 21:15:30 <Jay7> ant__: hey :)
May 19 21:15:33 <Jay7> morning ppl
May 19 21:16:53 <ant__> likewise: I'm still hit by some sort of race issue with 4 bbthreads :/ can't help atm ;)
May 19 21:17:06 <denix> Jay7: gm
May 19 21:17:18 <ant__> funny is rebuilding from pstage immediatly stalls on:
May 19 21:17:19 <ant__> NOTE: package stagemanager-native-0.0.1-r12: task do_package_write: Succeeded
May 19 21:17:19 <ant__> Done.
May 19 21:17:43 <Jay7> ant__: switch to 5 threads :)
May 19 21:17:48 <ant__> that's the last line he spitted out in 15mins :/
May 19 21:18:10 <denix> ant__: ah, the dreaded BB_#_THREADS race in pstage...
May 19 21:18:21 <ant__> here is a classic
May 19 21:18:26 <denix> Jay7: good, that would throw it off! :)
May 19 21:18:36 <likewise> ant__: I have the same issues with 4 bbthreads
May 19 21:19:20 <JaMa> there was patch removing one lockfile in packaged-staging.bbclass
May 19 21:19:32 <ant__> yes
May 19 21:19:40 <ant__> commit 5fcd7212b1b0a5311dc77e63d80fd45283bf2445
May 19 21:19:40 <ant__> Author: Enrico Scholz <enrico.scholz@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>
May 19 21:19:50 <ant__> let's retry...
May 19 21:21:08 <JaMa> Yes I haven't seen Enrico's e-mail with it to OE-devel ML, but I'm using it since he showed it here
May 19 21:21:34 <denix> where can I get the patch?
May 19 21:21:56 <denix> there was one to fix deploy_tar, but it didn't work for me
May 19 21:22:15 <denix> ant__: can't seem to find 5fcd7212 commit in OE...
May 19 21:22:21 <ant__> --- a/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass
May 19 21:22:21 <ant__> +++ b/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass
May 19 21:22:21 <ant__> @@ -277,7 +277,6 @@ python packagestage_scenefunc () {
May 19 21:22:21 <ant__>          if stageok:
May 19 21:22:21 <ant__>              bb.note("Staging package found, using it for %s." % file)
May 19 21:22:22 <ant__>              installcmd = bb.data.getVar("PSTAGE_INSTALL_CMD", d, 1)
May 19 21:22:24 <ant__> -            lf = bb.utils.lockfile(bb.data.expand("${SYSROOT_LOCK}", d))
May 19 21:22:26 <ant__>              ret = os.system("PATH=\"%s\" %s %s" % (path, installcmd, stagepkg))
May 19 21:22:28 <ant__>              bb.utils.unlockfile(lf)
May 19 21:22:30 <ant__>              if ret != 0:
May 19 21:22:34 <ant__> one liner
May 19 21:23:08 <denix> ant__: I'll try it, thanks.
May 19 21:23:21 <ant__> I'm doing the same now
May 19 21:23:42 <dcordes> hi
May 19 21:23:55 <denix> bbl
May 19 21:24:03 <JaMa> denix: http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/1ae868c5f4029f1862555e97a1aba37a8935221c
May 19 21:24:05 <ant__> denix: seems to help from pstage
May 19 21:24:16 <ant__> build is going on
May 19 21:25:04 <denix> JaMa: thanks
May 19 21:26:38 <ant__> the patch definitely helps rebuild from pstage
May 19 21:26:51 <ant__> s/helps/unbreak/
May 19 21:27:16 <ant__> Jay7: found the new hardware?
May 19 21:27:28 <Jay7> ant__: no.. :(
May 19 21:27:35 <Jay7> still awaiting
May 19 21:27:50 <ant__> have you read kexec-tools ML?
May 19 21:27:53 * Jay7 is fighting against openfiler inside xenserver now
May 19 21:27:59 <ant__> WIP for powerpc
May 19 21:28:03 <Jay7> ant__: no, I'm not subscribed :(
May 19 21:28:12 <ant__> just read the logs
May 19 21:28:37 <Jay7> hehe.. I've forget about powerpc :)
May 19 21:29:08 <Jay7> I should ask CELF for powerpc device ;))
May 19 21:29:27 <ant__> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/kexec/2010-May/thread.html
May 19 21:29:43 <ant__> there is the parser story and some powerpc news
May 19 21:30:23 <Jay7> btw, strange report about broken usb today in zaurus-devel@
May 19 21:30:38 <ant__> I've read, after kexec
May 19 21:30:45 <ant__> strange
May 19 21:30:50 <Jay7> definitely
May 19 21:31:11 <ant__> but as I said, reScan sometimes doesn't work on pxa255 too, reboot yes
May 19 21:31:31 <ant__> so perhaps there is some kernel issue
May 19 22:02:40 <khem> can someone ack/nack the move to automake 1.11.1
May 19 22:02:46 <khem> besides jama
May 19 22:05:49 <dcordes> khem, hi
May 19 22:06:25 <dcordes> ~oebug 5435
May 19 22:06:31 <dcordes> khem, did you see it?
May 19 22:09:19 <khem> dcordes: no
May 19 22:09:32 <dcordes> http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5435
May 19 22:10:16 <khem> !oebug 5435
May 19 22:10:17 <cdbot2> * * Bug 5435, Status: UNCONFIRMED, Created: 2010-05-19 14:26
May 19 22:10:18 <cdbot2> * * lukas(AT)htc-linux.org: machine htcleo: gcc version etc.
May 19 22:10:19 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5435
May 19 22:10:59 <dcordes> thanks ^^
May 19 22:12:11 <khem> dcordes: hmm can you try something else
May 19 22:12:23 <dcordes> khem, of course
May 19 22:12:23 <khem> use DISTRO=minimal 
May 19 22:12:56 <dcordes> khem, and see if it works with the 4.4.1 select by overrun?
May 19 22:12:59 <ant__> khem: ah, about minimal, pls add armv4 to the EABI archs
May 19 22:13:03 <khem> and also get rid of those PREFERRED_VERSION_*
May 19 22:13:12 <ant__> (I buildt minimal for collie, eabi)
May 19 22:13:30 <khem> ant__: ok post the patch and I will add it along with the ack
May 19 22:13:41 <ant__> yes, thx
May 19 22:14:33 <dcordes> khem, also use "stock" binutils version ?
May 19 22:15:19 <khem> dcordes: with minimal it will choose 2.20.1 by default and gcc will be 4.4.4
May 19 22:15:55 <dcordes> khem, can you point me to where it picks 4.4.4 ?
May 19 22:16:33 <JaMa> sane-toolchain.inc
May 19 22:16:53 <khem> oh conf/distro/include/sane-toolchain.inc has 4.4.1 for armv7
May 19 22:17:04 <khem> dcordes: you can get rid of that line 
May 19 22:17:15 <khem> PREFERRED_GCC_VERSION_armv7a         ?= "4.4.1"
May 19 22:17:20 <khem> in conf/distro/include/sane-toolchain.inc
May 19 22:18:04 <khem> dcordes: what it will do different to angstrom is that it will use newer libc (2.11) and older udev
May 19 22:18:06 <dcordes> khem, ok. if it defaults to 4.4.4 then that would be good. because as you see with that version it is (sort of) working.
May 19 22:18:10 <khem> so you have better chance of success
May 19 22:18:31 <khem> it will choose udev-124
May 19 22:18:43 <JaMa> khem: btw have you seen koen's e-mail about 4.4 being intolerably slow on some ARMs while 4.3 should be fine and 4.5 also "fixed"?
May 19 22:18:45 <khem> dcordes: may be you can try that first before nuking the tmpdir
May 19 22:18:47 <dcordes> khem, any reason for the older udev? I am not the only person with udev problem on that platform?
May 19 22:19:07 <dcordes> khem, well I had to nuke the dozens of tmp gigs already..
May 19 22:19:11 <JaMa> khem: so I'm even more looking forward for fix of that issue with 4.5.0 :)
May 19 22:19:17 <khem> JaMa: I need data to assert that 
May 19 22:19:20 <dcordes> khem, I was kicked from my temporary build host :X
May 19 22:19:23 <khem> may be koen has some testcase
May 19 22:19:31 <ant__> dcordes: we know ;)
May 19 22:19:47 <khem> JaMa: yeah I always get pulled in to do something else
May 19 22:19:52 <khem> I have the case reproducing 
May 19 22:19:57 <khem> on my old osk
May 19 22:19:58 <dcordes> sorry again..
May 19 22:20:10 <khem> JaMa: btw. did you try 2.6.34
May 19 22:20:15 <khem> with 4.5
May 19 22:20:25 <JaMa> khem: ok.. I also didn't notice any info about 4.4. so slow in gcc ML...
May 19 22:20:26 <ant__> np, one can imagine a big server farm behind OE/LTG :D
May 19 22:20:33 <JaMa> khem: on spitz yes
May 19 22:20:50 <JaMa> ah sorry not with 4.5
May 19 22:20:50 <dcordes> khem, ok I will start from scratch with org.oe.dev HEAD with the "PREFERRED_GCC_VERSION_armv7a         ?= "4.4.1" removed. ok?
May 19 22:21:02 <khem> dcordes: ok
May 19 22:21:10 <khem> try minimal-image it will take couple of hrs
May 19 22:21:18 <JaMa> but I had it with 2.6.34-rc6 IIRC (from linux_git, so I guess it didn't change before 2.6.34)
May 19 22:22:55 <khem> hmm eglibc 2.12 is out 
May 19 22:23:03 <khem> I will push the recipes tonight
May 19 22:23:12 <JaMa> great! thanks
May 19 22:23:21 <khem> JaMa: ok
May 19 22:23:34 <khem> once I am through this qemu work
May 19 22:23:46 <khem> I will work on figuring out the kernel oops
May 19 22:23:56 <JaMa> I'll try new build with gcc-4.5.0, 2.6.34 and eglibc-2.11 tomorrow
May 19 22:24:07 <khem> eglibc 2.12 :)
May 19 22:24:16 <khem> you will have it by then
May 19 22:24:32 <likewise> khem: don't talk about qemu --- I've been trying to install Lucid 10.04 on my qemu-kvm running on 9.10 guest to no avail.
May 19 22:24:33 <JaMa> but now I have to sleep (yes I meant 2.12) and tomorrow I'll be off for trip
May 19 22:24:54 <khem> likewise: you should use qemu-native thats built with OE
May 19 22:25:09 <khem> now if you choose a qemu based machine its built for you
May 19 22:25:56 <khem> likewise: thats the reason we package our own in OE
May 19 22:26:07 <khem> because distro provided sometimes does not work
May 19 22:26:20 <khem> btw. what errors do you run into
May 19 22:26:30 <likewise> khem: but my attempt is OE-unrelated 
May 19 22:26:39 <khem> likewise: got it
May 19 22:26:53 <likewise> khem: fails to mount after generating ext4 filesystem on the virtual disk
May 19 22:27:00 <likewise> khem: which is a raw file
May 19 22:27:25 <likewise> khem: my aim is to script inside the virtual machine, so that I can test OE builds inside KVM machines
May 19 22:27:40 <likewise> khem: based on this: http://kristiannielsen.livejournal.com/11007.html
May 19 22:29:25 <khem> likewise: I would assume that it should work well when both distro's are ubuntu and are close enough in release time
May 19 22:29:41 <ant__> khem: you know the infamous issue I have with gtk+-native (undefined symbol: g_realloc_n)?
May 19 22:29:48 <likewise> 9.10 and 10.04...
May 19 22:29:54 <ant__> well, this happens rebuilding from pstage too
May 19 22:29:56 <ant__> too bad :/
May 19 22:30:00 <likewise> I'm giving up for today - good night all
May 19 22:30:10 <likewise> keep on hacking
May 19 22:30:22 <khem> likewise: good night
May 19 22:31:30 <khem> ant__: so when you build first time it works
May 19 22:31:39 <ant__> no, the second...
May 19 22:31:39 <khem> and if you try to rebuilt then you get this error ?
May 19 22:31:46 <ant__> the first always fails
May 19 22:31:55 <khem> ah
May 19 22:32:00 <khem> and second time it work
May 19 22:32:08 <ant__> yes
May 19 22:32:23 <ant__> now I'm trying to see what's missing there...
May 19 22:32:48 <ant__> but if it happens from pstage it should not be a race issue...
May 19 22:32:55 <ant__> rather some missing dep
May 19 22:33:45 <ant__> im-xim.la does not export GTK+ IM module API
May 19 22:36:28 <khem> ant__: I suspect missing dep on glib-2.0-native
May 19 22:36:45 <ant__> direct dep is missing
May 19 22:37:09 <khem> ant__: try bitbake -e gtk-native; grep ^DEPENDS=
May 19 22:37:12 <ant__> but indirectly depended though 
May 19 22:37:15 <khem> ant__: try bitbake -e gtk-native| grep ^DEPENDS=
May 19 22:38:24 <ant__> fwiw atk-native and pango-native (and cairo-native, which was built) have glib-2 as explicit dependency
May 19 22:38:37 <ant__> glib-2.0-native I mean
May 19 22:40:23 <ant__> andrea@mizar /oe/build $ bitbake -e gtk+-native| grep ^DEPENDS=
May 19 22:40:24 <ant__> DEPENDS="autoconf-native automake-native libtool-native gnu-config-native coreutils-native libpng-native atk-native pango-native cairo-native libxrender-native libxext-native"
May 19 22:42:25 <khem> bitbake -e cairo-native|grep ^DEPENDS=
May 19 22:42:48 <ant__> btw 00045fe0 t IA__g_realloc_n
May 19 22:43:42 <ant__> in /oe/build/tmp/sysroots/i686-linux/usr/lib(libglib-2.0.so
May 19 22:43:45 <ant__> mom
May 19 22:44:29 <ant__> khem: is there
May 19 22:44:31 <ant__> DEPENDS="pkgconfig-native autoconf-native automake-native libtool-native gnu-config-native coreutils-native virtual/libx11 pixman libsm libpng fontconfig libxrender glib-2.0-native libpng-native pixman-native libx11-native fontconfig-native"
May 19 22:46:09 <ant__> khem: and for libglib-2.0.la:  dependency_libs=' -L/oe/build/tmp/sysroots/i686-linux/usr/lib'
May 19 22:46:19 <khem> ok
May 19 22:46:53 <ant__> so why is not found ?
May 19 22:47:23 <dcordes> local.conf for htcleo minimal test build: http://privatepaste.com/d72fcdd795 any problems visible?
May 19 22:48:23 <khem> ant__: may be this patch http://osdir.com/ml/general/2010-03/msg07387.html will help
May 19 22:49:42 <khem> dcordes: looks ok, dont you want some thing like jffs2 
May 19 22:49:50 <khem> only a tar file is enough ?
May 19 22:51:11 <dcordes> khem, is there something like a loopfile that can grow?
May 19 22:51:34 <khem> dcordes: no but you can generate an ext2
May 19 22:51:43 <khem> and then mount it loop0 yourself
May 19 22:52:51 <ant__> khem: the patch is interesting..how to getit raw and not html?
May 19 22:54:59 <ant__> but I'm still dubious...why does it break on do_compile if was already built?
May 19 22:58:15 <khem> ant__: your problem seems to be race condition
May 19 23:01:49 <ant__> khem: looking at the creation time, libglib was 00:23 and run do_compile 00:25
May 19 23:02:12 <ant__> I mean gtk+-native run.do_compile
May 19 23:02:25 <ant__> the failing one
May 19 23:06:00 <ant__> khem: log do_configure   http://filebin.ca/complete.php?id=4bf46ec299a51
May 19 23:06:25 <ant__> grepping for glib...
May 19 23:15:16 <khem> ant__: look at the creation time of .la
May 19 23:15:43 <ant__> I've just run a second build..all ok now..
May 19 23:16:00 <khem> you use gentoo right
May 19 23:16:11 <ant__> yes
May 19 23:16:29 <khem> if you have some other distro you may want to try that too
May 19 23:19:25 <ant__> fwiw the lib reports date of yesterday (packaged staging miracles :)
May 19 23:19:34 <kergoth_> damnit
May 19 23:19:36 * kergoth_ hmms
May 19 23:21:43 <ant__> khem: thx for help. I'll insist tomorrow. 
May 19 23:21:46 <ant__> good nite
May 19 23:21:53 <khem> ant__: good night
May 19 23:26:06 <Jay7> yes, time to sleep
May 19 23:45:15 * kergoth_ thinks about killing changes to OVERRIDES entirely, across all the metadata
May 19 23:51:04 <khem> kergoth: Do you have any say on moving to using automake 1.11.1
May 19 23:51:17 * khem is looking for shared blame if hello breaks
May 19 23:51:37 <khem> s/hello/hell
May 19 23:53:22 * kergoth_ hasn't looked at it at all
May 19 23:55:58 <khem> kergoth: Its already there but not default some distros like SHR use it as default automake
May 19 23:56:06 <khem> so it has fair bit of testing
May 19 23:56:52 <kergoth_> sounds like a reasonable thing to do then  you're talking about changing the overall default, or angstrom?
May 19 23:57:00 <khem> overall default
May 19 23:57:26 <kergoth_> cool
May 19 23:57:37 <kergoth_> i'm willing to share the blame
May 19 23:57:39 <kergoth_> :)
May 19 23:57:41 <khem> PREFERRED_VERSION_automake-native = "1.10.3" in in for angstrom
May 19 23:57:45 <khem> so they wont be affected
May 19 23:57:49 <kergoth_> ah
May 19 23:58:20 <khem> its mainly micro and minimal
May 19 23:59:27 <khem> kergoth_: ack my patch then :)
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