**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 29 02:59:57 2010 Jun 29 03:05:58 khem: hey. if you're still in patching mode, could you try to build libnl ? I get some compile error. Looks like it is missing some headers Jun 29 03:06:20 this is still from the same angstrom-gnome-image run for htcleo Jun 29 03:06:56 http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builds/76783/ Jun 29 06:05:05 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r357763adba 10openembedded.git/recipes/xcb/ (xcb-proto.inc xcb-proto_1.6.bb): xcb-proto: allow empty ${PN}, otherwise all the xorg -dev packages are broken Jun 29 06:17:51 morning Jun 29 06:48:31 gm Jun 29 06:58:46 gm Jun 29 07:15:45 morning Jun 29 07:23:29 03Roger Monk  07org.openembedded.dev * r4f6f63b15d 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/ (ti-codec-engine_2.25.04.15.bb ti-codec-engine_2.25.05.16.bb): Jun 29 07:23:29 ti-codec-engine: Add CE 2.25.04 and CE 2.25.05 Jun 29 07:23:29 * Add latest CE versions Jun 29 07:23:29 Signed-off-by: Roger Monk Jun 29 07:23:29 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Jun 29 07:23:39 03Roger Monk  07org.openembedded.dev * rb335d08f61 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/ti-codec-engine.inc: Jun 29 07:23:40 ti-codec-engine: Force makefile regeneration for complete 'clean' Jun 29 07:23:40 * To completely 'clean' the prebuilt examples, we should first regenerate the makefiles Jun 29 07:23:40 using a and XDC '.make' step. Jun 29 07:23:40 * Updated Examples build to include this. Jun 29 07:23:49 Signed-off-by: Roger Monk Jun 29 07:23:49 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Jun 29 07:23:49 03Roger Monk  07org.openembedded.dev * r9188e71057 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/ (ti-linuxutils_2.25.03.09.bb ti-linuxutils_2.25.04.10.bb): Jun 29 07:23:49 ti-linuxutils: Add Latest Versions 2.25.03, 2.25.04(incl.support for 2.6.34) Jun 29 07:23:50 * Add latest linuxutils versions Jun 29 07:51:09 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rc8ec6a5223 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (4 files in 3 dirs): cheese, gnome-python-desktop, empathy, totem-pl-parser: bump PR due to eds-dbus SOVERSION change Jun 29 08:19:24 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r961e6bc878 10openembedded.git/recipes/opencv/opencv-dsp-acceleration_svn.bb: opencv-dsp-acceleration: recipe for the GSoC2010 opencv-dsp project: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2010_Projects Jun 29 09:59:06 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r2999c4531d 10openembedded.git/recipes/python/python-pycairo_1.8.0.bb: python-pycairo 1.8.0: convert to new style staging and install headers in proper place Jun 29 09:59:07 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r1ac49982f5 10openembedded.git/recipes/gnome/gnome-python-desktop_2.30.0.bb: gnome-python-desktop: fix DEPENDS Jun 29 09:59:08 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r6fe7277635 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: efl: bump SRCREV to 49934 Jun 29 09:59:08 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rfb0d92fa1b 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2008-preferred-versions.inc: angstrom: prefert python-pycairo 1.8.0 Jun 29 10:09:29 ~seen likewise Jun 29 10:09:31 likewise <~likewise@82-170-243-215.ip.telfort.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 10h 34m 13s ago, saying: 'g'nite for later'. Jun 29 10:16:49 Any one came across problem while performing do_rootfs "Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-base-extended" Jun 29 10:17:01 angstrom-version * Jun 29 10:47:36 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r6a31569a35 10openembedded.git/recipes/e17/elmdentica_svn.bb: elmdentica: remove temporary SRCREV bump -> use EFL_SRCREV again Jun 29 12:19:21 strange, if you want to build libnl, you first need to build libnl2. else compile will fail. somebody got a fix for that ? Jun 29 12:19:48 JaMa: asked me why I'd want to build libnl (1) . angstrom-gnome-image requires it Jun 29 12:26:35 dcordes: I said that bluez4_4.66 needs it (which is probably pulled to angstrom-gnome-image) Jun 29 12:27:56 right you mentioned bluez.. if the package is unbuildable something needs to be changed Jun 29 12:28:01 I guess Jun 29 12:30:16 dcordes: DEPENDS in bluez4_4.66.bb to libnl2 and confirm that's only recipe needing libnl1 and that bluez4 works ok with libnl2 Jun 29 12:30:38 hehe.. Jun 29 12:31:09 hrw: what mouse is on your screenshot from latest blog post? :) Jun 29 12:31:50 I've the same keyboard but looking for a good mouse :) Jun 29 12:33:17 Jay7: I got it with keyboard. its microsoft comfort optical mouse 3000 v1.0 Jun 29 12:34:41 I have now Genius T555 Laser with opto-wheel.. but opto-wheel is a bit crazy under Linux Jun 29 12:35:01 I still have not checked it under windows Jun 29 12:36:22 Jay7: before I used labtec wireless Jun 29 12:36:47 Jay7: this ms mouse has leftthumb button which is useless by default - its 'Forward' key Jun 29 12:37:13 my have two - back and forward Jun 29 12:37:24 but I think I can remap this.. Jun 29 12:37:55 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rc584fa3284 10openembedded.git/recipes/libmodplug/libmodplug_0.8.7.bb: libmodplug: convert to new style staging Jun 29 12:37:56 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r173418bc81 10openembedded.git/recipes/xbmc/xbmc_svn.bb: xbmc: add recipe to build xbmc from the gsoc-2010 branch, WIP Jun 29 12:57:51 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r67e01a6e95 10openembedded.git/recipes/xbmc/xbmc_svn.bb: xbmc: fix description, as pointed out by xbmc developers Jun 29 13:04:43 JaMa: hm I removed bluez from the image include and it's still trying to build libnl and still failing Jun 29 13:17:58 gm Jun 29 13:22:31 hi likewise Jun 29 13:22:54 so both networkmanager and bluez need libnl-1 which is not buildable Jun 29 13:23:03 so anything gnome doesn't work currently Jun 29 13:28:00 gm Jun 29 13:32:15 any thoughts on libnl problem ? Jun 29 14:08:28 http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/task/6381323.txt libnl compile log Jun 29 14:23:42 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * ra83d6dea3e 10openembedded.git/recipes/xbmc/xbmc_svn.bb: xbmc: more recipe cleanups Jun 29 14:43:26 03Brijesh Singh  07org.openembedded.dev * r8be669831b 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/ti-dsplink.inc: Jun 29 14:43:26 ti-dsplink.inc: fix dsplink staging include path. Jun 29 14:43:26 Signed-off-by: Brijesh Singh Jun 29 14:43:26 Acked-by: Roger Monk Jun 29 14:43:26 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Jun 29 14:43:32 03Brijesh Singh  07org.openembedded.dev * re5a070514e 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/ti-linuxutils.inc: Jun 29 14:43:32 ti-linuxutils: update recipe to build edma and irq module on dm355 platform. Jun 29 14:43:32 Signed-off-by: Brijesh Singh Jun 29 14:43:32 Acked-by: Roger Monk Jun 29 14:43:33 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Jun 29 14:43:35 03Roger Monk  07org.openembedded.dev * r3a6ffbc991 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/ti-eula-unpack.inc: Jun 29 14:43:35 ti-eula-unpack: Temp Remove Version Check which is broken in some installers Jun 29 14:43:35 * IJ installer returns error for --version/--help tests Jun 29 14:43:43 ti-dmai_2.05.00.14: add new recipe Jun 29 14:43:43 Signed-off-by: Brijesh Singh Jun 29 14:43:44 Acked-by: Roger Monk Jun 29 14:43:44 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Jun 29 14:43:49 03Roger Monk  07org.openembedded.dev * r78c66a51b7 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/ (ti-biospsp.inc ti-biospsp_01.30.01.bb ti-paths.inc): (log message trimmed) Jun 29 14:43:50 ti-biospsp: Add Preliminary Support for (DSP)/BIOS PSP (Platform Support Package) for OMAPL13x (v1.30.01) Jun 29 14:43:50 * Initial support from Arnie/Brijesh Jun 29 14:43:50 * v 1.30.01 Jun 29 14:43:50 * BIOS PSP is Device Drivers for DSP side BIOS Kernel Jun 29 14:48:23 03Roger Monk  07org.openembedded.dev * re17c422538 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/ti-codecs-omap3530_1.01.00.bb: Jun 29 14:48:23 ti-codecs-omap3530: Add latest codec server (v.1.01) Jun 29 14:48:23 * Codecs Server Package added from DVSDK 3.01.00.10 Jun 29 14:48:23 Signed-off-by: Roger Monk Jun 29 14:48:23 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Jun 29 15:23:01 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r9d2c6c4731 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-driver/xf86-video-glamo_git.bb: Jun 29 15:23:01 xf86-video-glamo: add patch for segmentation fault while adding modes without name Jun 29 15:23:01 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Jun 29 15:23:03 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r97801611da 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (20 files in 10 dirs): Jun 29 15:23:03 recipes: PR bump after EFL SRCREV change resulting to different .so names. Jun 29 15:23:03 * mostly libelementary-ver-pre-svn-06 -> libelementary-ver-pre-svn-07 Jun 29 15:23:03 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Jun 29 15:23:38 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r529620e79d 10openembedded.git/recipes/efl1/eet_svn.bb: Jun 29 15:23:38 eet: fix version Jun 29 15:23:38 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Jun 29 15:23:38 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * racc040c41b 10openembedded.git/recipes/efl1/elementary_svn.bb: Jun 29 15:23:38 elementary: fix packaging names and version like evas does Jun 29 15:26:48 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r2a9eaeb35e 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-driver/xf86-video-glamo/0001-glamo-output-initialize-mode-name-to-NULL.patch: xf86-video-glamo: add missing patch Jun 29 15:28:23 03Khem Raj  07org.openembedded.dev * r946278b001 10openembedded.git/recipes/gypsy/gypsy_0.7.bb: Jun 29 15:28:23 gypsy_0.7.bb: Point SRC_URI to updated tar file location Jun 29 15:28:23 Signed-off-by: Khem Raj Jun 29 15:43:20 anyone know why u-boot-utils is still at 1.2.0? Jun 29 15:45:10 oneshel: I guess it worked and no one needed anything new thus far. what do you need that it does not have Jun 29 15:45:35 I would encourage you to write and test a recipe if you can and send it to ml. Jun 29 15:46:47 khem: I'm not sure yet, I have a at91sam9g20ek board where the u-boot environment is redundant, I have configured /etc/fw_env.config properly so fw_printenv can read the environment, but fw_setenv can't write anything Jun 29 15:47:47 I have found a couple of people with the same problem and apparently a newer fw_env.c worked for them Jun 29 15:48:28 I will try a newer version and see what happens, if I have success I'll definitely submit a new recipe Jun 29 15:49:02 I'm using u-boot-utils 1.2.0 on a couple omap3 boards but I don't think they use redundant u-boot environments Jun 29 15:49:20 where I should say, fw_printenv and fw_setenv work properly :) Jun 29 16:01:06 khem: thanks for adding the gypsy fix Jun 29 16:01:36 khem: any chance you can have a look at the libnl compile error at http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/task/6381323.txt ? Jun 29 16:02:32 brb Jun 29 17:32:46 dcordes: whats you MACHINE and DISTRO Jun 29 17:47:56 dcordes: btw. did you build libnl2 by any chance ? Jun 29 17:48:33 dcordes: in any case try this bitbake -c clean libnl libnl2; bitbake libnl and report back if you still see the errors Jun 29 18:03:50 03Khem Raj  07org.openembedded.dev * rc86e303133 10openembedded.git/recipes/realpath/realpath_1.15.bb: Jun 29 18:03:50 realpath_1.15.bb: Fix ERROR: QA Issue with realpath: No GNU_HASH in the elf binary Jun 29 18:03:50 Signed-off-by: Khem Raj Jun 29 18:06:31 khem: ok trying Jun 29 18:09:17 recipes/freesmartphone/libfsobasics_git.bb and recipes/connman/connman.inc depend on libnl2 Jun 29 18:09:31 so if you have either of these being pulled in then you will have this problem Jun 29 18:09:49 khem: ok it worked Jun 29 18:10:02 dcordes: you should add this to your local.conf Jun 29 18:10:14 khem: it seems like fso is installed in any image so might be Jun 29 18:10:30 PREFERRED_PROVIDERS_libnl = "libnl2" Jun 29 18:10:46 I see potential problem with this Jun 29 18:10:54 ok Jun 29 18:11:07 then get rid of the recipes that depend on libnl2 Jun 29 18:11:09 in pulseaudi I replaced libnl with libnl2 Jun 29 18:11:12 they cant coexist Jun 29 18:11:29 and it din't configure: no package libnl-1 Jun 29 18:12:01 dcordes: what image are you building ? Jun 29 18:12:07 angstrom-gnome-image Jun 29 18:12:13 can you run bitbake -g Jun 29 18:12:26 and paste the resulting .dot files somewhere ? Jun 29 18:13:50 sure Jun 29 18:14:15 I have different problem Jun 29 18:14:38 when I get this image built at some point I want to install it into some loop mountable file Jun 29 18:14:50 that will live on an sdcard Jun 29 18:15:20 I have tried the option to use ext2 file Jun 29 18:15:44 but it has the big downside of being too static.. lots of storage space spent with zeros Jun 29 18:15:59 is there way to create a 'flexible' loop file ? Jun 29 18:19:42 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r0cc02ded7b 10openembedded.git/recipes/xbmc/ (12 files in 2 dirs): Jun 29 18:19:43 xbmc: build a slightly more standard version Jun 29 18:19:43 * performance tweaks from the summer of code project will be applied later Jun 29 18:24:03 dcordes: what would be flexible Jun 29 18:25:00 khem: so that the filesize of the image file is never much larger than the total space taken up by the files in the image Jun 29 18:26:01 dcordes: iso ? Jun 29 18:26:51 hm if that's possible Jun 29 18:26:51 spain - portugal now thats iberian derby Jun 29 18:26:54 lets see Jun 29 18:28:24 khem: I use an initrd to setup/mount everything and then newroot to switch Jun 29 18:28:55 yeah thats would work Jun 29 18:32:04 dcordes: what device do you have Jun 29 18:33:02 khem: htcleo (htc hd2) Jun 29 18:33:22 dcordes: cool. so you can get OE to boot on it ? Jun 29 18:33:41 I could always create nice mmc partition but I want to provide some images for people who don't know l Jun 29 18:33:44 linux Jun 29 18:34:03 yeah ok Jun 29 18:34:15 khem: yes everything is fixed now. the segmentation fault problems are gone. btw I'm sorry I spent so much of your time with that Jun 29 18:34:28 while it was totally OE unrelated Jun 29 18:34:29 dcordes: you can say ok take this image and burn it into SD card Jun 29 18:34:33 and boot from there Jun 29 18:34:50 dcordes: I hinted many times to you :) Jun 29 18:35:20 yea.. not only you. but we tried so many things in the kernel Jun 29 18:35:43 I am happy that it works now. Jun 29 18:35:56 So once you achieve what you intend Jun 29 18:36:11 please send an email to mailing list about your project and its success Jun 29 18:36:18 we can add that to OE's news section Jun 29 18:37:35 ok. I will also refer to OE project when I post images Jun 29 18:37:41 actually always do this Jun 29 18:38:01 that wud be ncie Jun 29 18:38:02 nice Jun 29 18:38:10 something like 'powered by OE' Jun 29 18:38:18 the whole linux on htc marketing machinery is heavy :D Jun 29 18:38:45 heh yes Jun 29 18:39:12 yes I did this minimal console image that worked around segfaults and played user provided videos with mplayer Jun 29 18:39:24 dcordes: and its with gcc 4.4.4 ? Jun 29 18:39:26 it had a welcome screen with powered by mplayer and openemebdded.org Jun 29 18:39:39 perfect nice Jun 29 18:39:42 yes gcc 4.4.4 builds work perfectly well Jun 29 18:40:05 dcordes: once you have a stable system I would ask you to use gcc 4.5 Jun 29 18:40:12 if you could spare some time Jun 29 18:40:19 yea sure Jun 29 18:40:27 I should look into getting a more powerful machine Jun 29 18:40:27 for now you can go ahead with whatever works for you Jun 29 18:40:48 that is the gcc 4.4.4 patch.. everything else is ok Jun 29 18:40:52 dcordes: yeah me too. I have a feeble build box :) Jun 29 18:41:01 takes 12 hours for a native-sdk-image :) Jun 29 18:41:19 odel name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7300 @ 2.00GHz Jun 29 18:41:30 dcordes: is that a T61 Jun 29 18:41:38 for Lenovo ? Jun 29 18:42:43 Asus V2s Jun 29 18:43:18 hm ok Jun 29 18:43:57 something like core i7 with 6 cores. 12G DDR3 and 1Tb hd Jun 29 18:44:25 wud be ideal for winter room heater :) Jun 29 18:44:40 yes true. but nothing for my dorm room right now Jun 29 18:44:47 at least 30° up here Jun 29 18:45:37 heh nice which uni do you stud y in Jun 29 18:48:10 uni-erlangen Jun 29 18:48:14 http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/misc/depends.dot Jun 29 18:48:22 http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/misc/task-depends.dot Jun 29 18:50:02 so I'm trying to build u-boot with the latest u-boot.inc which looks like it will create a u-boot-fw-utils package, it has FILES_${PN}-fw-utils = "${sysconfdir} ${base_sbindir}", but instead of those files being installed in install/u-boot-fw-utils, they're going into install/u-boot Jun 29 18:51:33 my OE tree is somewhat old (it's from what linux4sam.org provides), but I can't see how files explicitly referenced by one FILES_${PN}-something could get picked up by FILES_${PN} Jun 29 18:58:01 ok, that was weird, I had to specify FILES_${PN}, now FILES_${PN}-fw-utils gets picked up properly Jun 29 19:26:52 devicekit-power SRC_URI broekn Jun 29 19:27:02 http://hal.freedesktop.org/releases/ Jun 29 19:27:07 no devicekit-power there Jun 29 19:27:11 while Jun 29 19:27:27 SRC_URI = "http://hal.freedesktop.org/releases/DeviceKit-power-${PV}.tar.gz;name=archive" Jun 29 19:32:45 fixed Jun 29 19:46:53 mickeyl, ping Jun 29 19:46:59 RP: ping Jun 29 20:52:55 03Khem Raj  07org.openembedded.dev * r049f0f6d1e 10openembedded.git/recipes/devicekit/ (devicekit-power_009.bb devicekit-power_014.bb): Jun 29 20:52:56 devicekit-power: Update the SRC_URI to something fetchable. Jun 29 20:52:56 Signed-off-by: Khem Raj Jun 29 20:54:08 khem: lol I just wanted to push this :D Jun 29 20:54:16 khem: did you happen to compile it ? Jun 29 20:54:25 fails here Jun 29 20:56:23 dcordes: no Jun 29 20:56:35 dcordes: what error do u run into Jun 29 21:00:34 khem: do_configure is missing gudev package Jun 29 21:02:07 dcordes: PREFERRED_VERSION_usbutils_local = "0.86" Jun 29 21:02:10 PREFERRED_VERSION_udev_local = "151" Jun 29 21:02:16 put that in your local.conf Jun 29 21:02:38 dcordes: that should probably provide gudev Jun 29 21:03:17 or rather libgudev Jun 29 21:09:43 khem: is this expected ? I am still building angstrom-gnome-image .. Jun 29 21:09:53 wondering if it assumes manually setting of such things Jun 29 21:11:03 khem: rebuilding devicekit-power with the recommended changes Jun 29 21:13:27 dcordes: hmmm you might have 151 already if using angstrom Jun 29 21:13:33 so this might not help Jun 29 21:13:47 you might want to share the complete error log somehwere Jun 29 21:14:02 I'm using minimal Jun 29 21:14:50 ok then it will help Jun 29 21:15:18 I dont know how well it will go to build an image that has angstrom in it with non angstrom distro Jun 29 21:15:30 http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/task/6384028.txt <-original error Jun 29 21:16:13 din't know this would be a problem Jun 29 21:16:41 do you think I should start over using angstrom-2008.1 ? Jun 29 21:17:22 no but you could cobble up an image of your own Jun 29 21:17:37 it should work on minimal too Jun 29 21:17:58 but there might be some assumptions like this above where it assumes that udev_151+ is used Jun 29 21:18:09 minimal still uses 124 by default Jun 29 21:18:31 hm ok. minimal based gnome image would be nice Jun 29 21:18:39 how come minimal sets old udev version ? Jun 29 21:21:00 new udev needs new kernel as it depends on some syscalls which are missing in older kernels Jun 29 21:21:17 so if you are using say 2.6.33+ then you will be ok Jun 29 21:21:25 I see Jun 29 21:24:48 khem: ok still errors Jun 29 21:25:15 jeez I really don't want to rebuild from scratch now Jun 29 21:26:36 khem: can you think of a different fix ? Jun 29 21:37:16 dcordes: that is the fix i.e. to use udev > 143 Jun 29 21:37:37 that doesn't work. different error Jun 29 21:37:38 now why it cant find it still may be because it was not installed in stging Jun 29 21:37:44 what error Jun 29 21:38:01 http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/task/6384158.txt Jun 29 21:41:46 dcordes: may be you can add --disable-man-pages Jun 29 21:42:00 to the devicekit-power as a workaround Jun 29 22:02:31 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * ra7d9d113aa 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Jun 29 22:02:31 linux-openmoko-2.6.34: update mci resume patch a bit Jun 29 22:02:31 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Jun 29 22:11:14 khem: where exactly must it be added ? Jun 29 22:14:43 dcordes: EXTRA_OECONF += " --disable-manpages" Jun 29 22:14:46 in the bb file Jun 29 22:31:21 good nite all Jun 29 23:22:43 03Andrea Adami  07org.openembedded.dev * rd1aa3c2a68 10openembedded.git/recipes/kexecboot/kexecboot_git.bb: Jun 29 23:22:43 kexecboot_git: bump to 485ff04f432115f41b09b39d06ce524b960bfa29 Jun 29 23:22:43 * minor bugfixes Jun 29 23:22:43 * bump PR Jun 29 23:32:27 i lost some bitbake work in a hd crash, can i 'revert' a bake in progress to 'some steps back' ? :) Jun 30 00:06:49 03Martin Jansa  07org.openembedded.dev * r46a631a298 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (kexecboot/linux-kexecboot_git.bb linux/linux_git.bb): Jun 30 00:06:49 linux(-kexecboot): bump SRCREV for git recipe and decrease D_P a bit more Jun 30 00:06:49 Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 30 02:59:57 2010