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Oct 03 04:28:28 <kergoth__> this makes no sense. i'm beginning to worry that there's a flaw in bitbake's rdepends handling
Oct 03 04:43:07 <kergoth__> cairo-native was pulling in a bunch of target stuff in its deps, that explains the worst of it
Oct 03 04:43:26 <kergoth__> but it looks like there's also a questionable behavior in bitbake
Oct 03 04:44:09 <kergoth__> it explicitly adds 'pn' to the packages when grabbing rdepends/etc, which means even an empty PACKAGES won't prevent RDEPENDS_${PN} from being used
Oct 03 04:44:20 * kergoth__ pokes it
Oct 03 05:15:32 <CIA-68> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07master * rfc2fec2e1b 10openembedded.git/recipes/cairo/cairo-native_1.8.0.bb: 
Oct 03 05:15:32 <CIA-68> cairo-native: fix DEPENDS
Oct 03 05:15:32 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
Oct 03 05:15:39 <CIA-68> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07master * raadcd9eea1 10openembedded.git/classes/gtk-icon-cache.bbclass: 
Oct 03 05:15:39 <CIA-68> gtk-icon-cache: don't use RDEPENDS, use RDEPENDS_${PN}
Oct 03 05:15:39 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
Oct 03 05:15:39 <CIA-68> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07master * r75c5a93da2 10openembedded.git/classes/utils.bbclass: 
Oct 03 05:15:40 <CIA-68> create_wrapper: check syntax of arguments
Oct 03 05:15:40 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
Oct 03 05:15:41 <CIA-68> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07master * rfaea5a2dc9 10openembedded.git/recipes/gtk+/gtk+.inc: 
Oct 03 05:15:41 <CIA-68> gtk+-native: generate wrappers for relocation
Oct 03 05:15:42 <CIA-68> Generate wrapper scripts for the gdk-pixbuf tools, to ensure they are using
Oct 03 05:15:43 <CIA-68> the correct paths into the sysroot.
Oct 03 05:15:43 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
Oct 03 05:25:26 <kergoth__> yeah, this behavior in bitbake is causing many native recipes to pull in target recipes due to the values of RDEPENDS_${PN} and RRECOMMENDS_${PN}, even though PACKAGES is unset
Oct 03 05:25:28 <kergoth__> this won't do.
Oct 03 05:25:53 <kergoth__> if i change it, gtk+-native no longer pulls in the crosscompiler, etc via hicolor-icon-theme
Oct 03 05:36:08 <CIA-68> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r23c3ccb8f6 10openembedded.git/recipes/sqlite/ (sqlite3-native.inc sqlite3-native_3.6.13.bb sqlite3.inc): 
Oct 03 05:36:09 <CIA-68> sqlite3-native: use BBCLASSEXTEND
Oct 03 05:36:09 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
Oct 03 07:16:03 <khem> $ git grep pkg-config
Oct 03 07:16:08 <eFfeM> gm
Oct 03 07:24:00 <CIA-68> 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r92e23e98bd 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (libcddb/libcddb_1.3.2.bb libcdio/libcdio.inc): 
Oct 03 07:24:00 <CIA-68> libcdio: remove deprecated field, fix DEPENDS
Oct 03 07:24:00 <CIA-68> libcddb: fix DEPENDS
Oct 03 10:07:08 <CIA-68> 03Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r72f38b3c64 10openembedded.git/recipes/openmoko-3rdparty/mokosuite2_git.bb: 
Oct 03 10:07:08 <CIA-68> mokosuite2: bump SRCREV
Oct 03 10:07:08 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
Oct 03 10:07:14 <CIA-68> 03Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc56589fc32 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-shr-feed.bb: 
Oct 03 10:07:14 <CIA-68> task-shr-feed: add ca-certificates
Oct 03 10:07:14 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
Oct 03 10:07:14 <CIA-68> 03Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * red07337982 10openembedded.git/recipes/openmoko-3rdparty/mokowm_git.bb: 
Oct 03 10:07:14 <CIA-68> mokowm: bump SRCREV
Oct 03 10:07:14 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
Oct 03 10:07:15 <CIA-68> 03Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6bd3b578ca 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git+ssh://git.openembedded.net/openembedded into org.openembedded.dev
Oct 03 10:52:41 <CIA-68> 03Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rfee76fce88 10openembedded.git/recipes/bluez/ (10 files in 3 dirs): 
Oct 03 10:52:41 <CIA-68> bluez : moved unused files to obsolete dir
Oct 03 10:52:41 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
Oct 03 10:52:45 <CIA-68> 03Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc973bbe10c 10openembedded.git/recipes/cacao/files/ (cacao-0.98+svn-classpath_var.patch cacao-codegen-arm3.patch): 
Oct 03 10:52:45 <CIA-68> cacao : moved unused files to obsolete dir
Oct 03 10:52:45 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
Oct 03 10:52:48 <CIA-68> 03Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd70e2c39e0 10openembedded.git/recipes/dpkg/files/ (autofoo.patch nochroot.patch): 
Oct 03 10:52:48 <CIA-68> dpkg : moved unused files to obsolete dir
Oct 03 10:52:48 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
Oct 03 10:52:50 <CIA-68> 03Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r013cde7678 10openembedded.git/recipes/mplayer/files/libmpdemux-ogg-include-svn.patch: 
Oct 03 10:52:50 <CIA-68> mplayer : moved unused files to obsolete dir
Oct 03 10:52:50 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
Oct 03 10:52:53 <CIA-68> 03Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r57fb60fd05 10openembedded.git/recipes/gpsdrive/files/gpsdrive-pda-fix.patch: 
Oct 03 10:52:53 <CIA-68> gpsdrive : moved unused files to obsolete dir
Oct 03 10:52:53 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
Oct 03 10:53:02 <CIA-68> 03Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r64e9d36c12 10openembedded.git/recipes/gpe-edit/gpe-edit/ (desktop-categories.patch toolbar.patch): 
Oct 03 10:53:02 <CIA-68> gpe-edit : moved unused files to obsolete dir
Oct 03 10:53:02 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
Oct 03 10:53:20 <CIA-68> 03Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r64ba5082bc 10openembedded.git/recipes/networkmanager/files/ (dbus-1.0-fix.patch dbus-api-fix.patch): 
Oct 03 10:53:20 <CIA-68> networkmanager : moved unused files to obsolete dir
Oct 03 10:53:20 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
Oct 03 10:53:24 <CIA-68> 03Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r8ff7ddf549 10openembedded.git/recipes/gstreamer/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
Oct 03 10:53:24 <CIA-68> gstreamer : moved unused files to obsolete dir
Oct 03 10:53:24 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
Oct 03 10:53:24 <CIA-68> 03Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3729301629 10openembedded.git/recipes/wlan-ng/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
Oct 03 10:53:32 <CIA-68> wlan-ng : moved unused files to obsolete dir
Oct 03 10:53:32 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
Oct 03 10:53:32 <CIA-68> 03Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3c83508467 10openembedded.git/recipes/cumulus/cumulus/qtooltip.patch: 
Oct 03 10:53:32 <CIA-68> cumulus : moved unused files to obsolete dir
Oct 03 10:53:33 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
Oct 03 11:52:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi JaMa 
Oct 03 11:52:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> about pimlico
Oct 03 11:52:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> they're not fetchable anymore right?
Oct 03 11:52:28 <GNUtoo|laptop> what are the default used?
Oct 03 11:52:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> svn or release?
Oct 03 11:52:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically I love tasks
Oct 03 11:53:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> but didn't find the time to unbreak it
Oct 03 11:53:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> I was too much into porting SHR to some phones
Oct 03 11:53:36 <zecke> GNUtoo|laptop: tasks should be still maintained
Oct 03 11:53:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Oct 03 11:53:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> nice
Oct 03 11:54:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> what should I do when I encounter a simple error that I've not the time to deal with?
Oct 03 11:54:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> because many stuff I care about don't build anymore
Oct 03 11:54:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> like gnash, tasks
Oct 03 11:54:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> frozen bubble 2.x
Oct 03 11:54:43 <zecke> http://burtonini.com/blog/computers/tasks-2010-07-12-20-00
Oct 03 11:54:52 <zecke> tasks moved to GNOME infrastructure or is in the process
Oct 03 11:54:57 <Jay7> btw, jlime people can be interested in pimliko too
Oct 03 11:55:11 <zecke> most likely intel will shutdown o-hand.com and pimlico and such...
Oct 03 11:55:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Oct 03 11:55:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> nice
Oct 03 11:55:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> they say it's still somewhat maintained
Oct 03 11:57:59 <JaMa> GNUtoo|laptop: I was responging only to openmoko-tasks2 not pimlico
Oct 03 11:58:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Oct 03 11:58:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> but that was in another list after it
Oct 03 11:58:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> > pimlico/dates_svn.bb
Oct 03 11:58:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> > pimlico/tasks_svn.bb
Oct 03 11:59:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> maybe I've forgetten what was said in the previous mails
Oct 03 12:00:01 <JaMa> GNUtoo|laptop: yup it was there, but I didn't check it and don't know anything about it..
Oct 03 12:00:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Oct 03 12:00:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> I used it in the past
Oct 03 12:00:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> until it broke
Oct 03 12:00:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'm trying 0.18 now
Oct 03 12:00:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> if I can unbreak task it would be so great
Oct 03 12:01:20 <Jay7> btw, links on site are pointing to git not svn
Oct 03 12:01:51 * Jay7 afk
Oct 03 12:20:11 <eFfeM> ericben: saw you did something with cups, recently, cups when starting seems to need a real ps, not busybox one
Oct 03 12:20:41 <eFfeM> guess a depends is needed, but I decied to enjoy what migh well be the last nice day this year
Oct 03 12:20:43 <eFfeM> later ...
Oct 03 12:31:02 <CIA-68> 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07master * r6862407491 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
Oct 03 12:31:02 <CIA-68> paroli: move to nonworking, paroli seems unmaintained for a while
Oct 03 12:31:02 <CIA-68> * now also the web and git repo on paroli-project.org is gone
Oct 03 12:31:02 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
Oct 03 12:31:11 <CIA-68> 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07master * r0015568317 10openembedded.git/recipes/openmoko-3rdparty/mokosuite2_git.bb: 
Oct 03 12:31:12 <CIA-68> mokosuite2: bump SRCREV a bit more
Oct 03 12:31:12 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
Oct 03 12:31:12 <CIA-68> 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07master * r776ce56e05 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 
Oct 03 12:31:12 <CIA-68> task-openmoko-pim: remove dates2 tasks2 contacts2, because those are unfetchable now
Oct 03 12:31:12 <CIA-68> * move their recipes to nonworking
Oct 03 12:31:13 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
Oct 03 12:31:13 <CIA-68> 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07master * r775d7c56bb 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
Oct 03 12:31:14 <CIA-68> om-gta0*: add qi qi-ubi to EXTRA_IMAGEDEPENDS, remove them from task-shr-feed
Oct 03 12:31:15 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
Oct 03 15:25:12 <CIA-68> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07master * rc608ba98ed 10openembedded.git/recipes/gtk+/gtk+.inc: Revert gtk+-native wrapper commit temporarily
Oct 03 16:02:01 <CIA-68> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07master * r292f2bffda 10openembedded.git/classes/utils.bbclass: 
Oct 03 16:02:01 <CIA-68> create_wrapper: wrappers are more useful if they pass args *coughs*
Oct 03 16:02:01 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
Oct 03 16:06:50 <CIA-68> 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rac02b36f61 10openembedded.git/recipes/gstreamer/gst-plugins.inc: gst-plugins: bump PR for cdio commit
Oct 03 16:07:07 <CIA-68> 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r449edd7510 10openembedded.git/recipes/libcdio/libcdio.inc: libcdio: fix SONAME damage caused by b672b28ba6a29e2715c91fcbbda8b2776b6f1105
Oct 03 16:07:27 <CIA-68> 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r049d5299fb 10openembedded.git/recipes/gnome/gvfs_1.6.0.bb: gvfs: bump PR for cdio change
Oct 03 16:39:09 <B_Lizzard> Is it ok to use cp -R in do_install in order to copy entire directories?
Oct 03 16:39:33 <B_Lizzard> Or is it install -d and then install -m for each directory and file?
Oct 03 17:58:10 <kergoth__> B_Lizzard: there's nothing wrong with using cp -R if it's appropriate
Oct 03 18:38:22 <CIA-68> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07master * r86822c3ae6 10openembedded.git/recipes/gtk+/gtk+.inc: 
Oct 03 18:38:22 <CIA-68> gtk+-native: generate wrappers for relocation [v2]
Oct 03 18:38:22 <CIA-68> Generate wrapper scripts for the gdk-pixbuf tools, to ensure they are using
Oct 03 18:38:22 <CIA-68> the correct paths into the sysroot.
Oct 03 18:38:22 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com>
Oct 03 18:39:14 <B_Lizzard> Thanks, kergoth__
Oct 03 18:40:31 <angelox_123> a curious question: Why i can't run OE as root?
Oct 03 18:41:27 <Jay7> angelox_123: <imho>this disallow you to break your system</imho>
Oct 03 18:43:32 <kergoth__> a better question: what would possess you to think that's a good idea?
Oct 03 18:44:09 <angelox_123> have more power?
Oct 03 18:44:17 <kergoth`> what?
Oct 03 18:44:26 <kergoth`> no, that doesn't make any sense.
Oct 03 18:44:37 <kergoth`> you should never, ever be root unless you *have to be*
Oct 03 18:44:39 <Jay7> more power to break :)
Oct 03 18:44:50 <kergoth`> and OE doesn't require it, so you shouldn't be doing it
Oct 03 19:01:40 <CIA-68> 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r973c9d103c 10openembedded.git/recipes/sharp-binary-only/ (8 files in 3 dirs): sharp-binary-only: obsolete sharp-camera-support and sharp-sdmmc-support
Oct 03 19:01:45 <CIA-68> 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r69d8c962b4 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (37 files in 5 dirs): opensimpad-kernels: move unmaintained recipes to obsolete
Oct 03 19:01:56 <CIA-68> 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r65e34b9c63 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (114 files in 5 dirs): kernels-2.4-embedix: move unsupported recipes to obsolete
Oct 03 20:05:56 <florian> re
Oct 03 20:39:05 * eFfeM goes zzz
Oct 03 20:39:09 <eFfeM> cya tomorrow
Oct 03 20:55:52 <JaMa> someone already seen this gtk+-native do_install error? http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/808680/
Oct 03 21:15:36 <kergoth`> never seen it, likely my fault though, very strange :(
Oct 03 21:16:36 <CIA-68> 03Chris Larson <chris_larson@mentor.com> 07master * rb2cecaa5bc 10openembedded.git/recipes/gtk+/gtk+.inc: 
Oct 03 21:16:36 <CIA-68> Revert "gtk+-native: generate wrappers for relocation [v2]"
Oct 03 21:16:36 <CIA-68> I give up.
Oct 03 22:26:11 <CIA-68> 03Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07master * r63e6abb94f 10openembedded.git/recipes/gcc/gcc-4.5.inc: 
Oct 03 22:26:11 <CIA-68> gcc-4.5.inc: Specify location of native libelf
Oct 03 22:26:11 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
Oct 03 22:27:03 <CIA-68> 03Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07master * rf7a852ccf0 10openembedded.git/recipes/gcc/gcc-cross_4.5.bb: 
Oct 03 22:27:03 <CIA-68> gcc-cross_4.5.bb: Specify location of native libelf
Oct 03 22:27:03 <CIA-68> Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
Oct 03 23:03:54 <angelox_123> anybody can help me with this:
Oct 03 23:04:00 <angelox_123> http://pastebin.com/gtvgrF26
Oct 03 23:04:06 <angelox_123> ANGSTROM TO A1200 MACHINE
Oct 03 23:04:12 <angelox_123> gpe-image building
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