**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 29 02:59:58 2011 Apr 29 03:00:22 khem, how much more do you really needf? Apr 29 05:51:13 http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/2801/ Apr 29 05:51:20 http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/2799/ Apr 29 05:51:26 http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/2797/ Apr 29 05:51:32 http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/2795/ Apr 29 06:47:39 hi all, I am trying to build any package with bitbake it's showing me ERROR:'virtual:native:OE/openembedded/recipe/file/file_5.05.bb fails Apr 29 07:06:15 any idea? Apr 29 07:22:09 check how it fails? Apr 29 08:24:25 good morning Apr 29 08:24:31 he florian Apr 29 08:24:42 hi bluelightning Apr 29 08:25:12 The captcha system for the wiki is a pain... Apr 29 08:25:48 Who had this idea with the copy&paste?! Apr 29 08:28:04 florian good so its pain for the spamers too Apr 29 08:29:03 woglinde: ltg uses a simple question which is _much_ easier to handle for humans and doesn't suffer from spam Apr 29 08:30:09 florian hm talk with ka6sox about it later Apr 29 08:32:41 hm yeah, I've seen a place where they give you a small math Q (like 77-9= ) that is way much user friendly than the captcha thingie Apr 29 08:45:09 indeed Apr 29 08:46:22 hi florian, woglinde, all Apr 29 08:46:34 & eFfeM_work Apr 29 08:46:56 hi bluelightning Apr 29 09:01:15 hi bluelightning Apr 29 10:02:03 good morning Apr 29 10:03:51 hi ericben Apr 29 10:09:16 hi florian Apr 29 10:09:55 I'm trying to build 2011.03 maintenance on a brand new Ubuntu 11.04 setup and it fails on perl-native (undefined reference to pthread_xxx + undefined reference to floor/sin/atan2 & co Apr 29 10:10:13 any idea of what could be wrong there ? Apr 29 10:12:07 seem to be a solution here : https://gist.github.com/925006 Apr 29 10:13:19 ericben: I think it's the same problem we have seen in oe-core, they moved some stuff in /lib in 11.04 Apr 29 10:14:27 there was a proposed fix but it's still being worked through Apr 29 10:14:33 part of the discussion: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2011-April/001718.html Apr 29 10:14:53 bluelightning: thanks, I'm back from holidays and didn't yet read all the threads ;-) Apr 29 10:15:18 holidays is evil when using OE ;-) Apr 29 10:15:26 ericben: no worries, coincidentally I've just been discussing this very issue with someone in #yocto :) Apr 29 10:15:55 yes, it's hard to keep up sometimes Apr 29 10:16:22 in fact each new ubuntu release is also evil when using OE :-D Apr 29 10:17:01 Ubuntu certainly like blazing new trails, I'll give them that :) Apr 29 12:08:28 bluelightning: thanks, the patch fixed the perl-native problem Apr 29 13:04:39 I need to unpack a rootfs.tar.bz2, do a couple of changes to a script, and pack it again. How do I do that in a correct way, keeping all permissions and other stuff that matters. Apr 29 13:24:27 woglinde: your phone number still has 1577*176? Apr 29 13:24:34 hrw yes Apr 29 13:24:40 do you want call me now= Apr 29 13:24:41 ? Apr 29 13:24:53 woglinde: no, send courier with linksys Apr 29 13:25:03 o.O Apr 29 13:25:23 what? Apr 29 13:25:49 woglinde: wrt54gs for OE e.V. to be used during linuxtag event Apr 29 13:26:00 woglinde: mails from week ago Apr 29 13:26:23 AH Apr 29 13:26:29 I thought the progbear Apr 29 13:26:40 you will send it now? Apr 29 13:26:45 or this day Apr 29 13:27:06 woglinde: courier pickup on 4th May so next friday/monday at your work it will be Apr 29 13:27:36 I mean 6th or 9th May Apr 29 13:27:51 or wait.... Apr 29 13:28:03 woglinde: can you meet me at SXF on Sunday? Apr 29 13:29:03 I totally forgot... I am departing from SXF on Sunday 8th May so will be there ~11:00 probably Apr 29 13:29:42 hm you drive again directly there? Apr 29 13:30:25 or with train Apr 29 13:31:29 direct bus to sxf Apr 29 13:31:44 okay Apr 29 13:31:48 should be possible Apr 29 13:31:58 I can take tobi with me Apr 29 13:32:24 cool Apr 29 13:32:52 will give you details on 7th May by sms as then I will know at what time I will arrive Apr 29 13:34:15 okay Apr 29 13:42:01 woglinde, -ENOPATCH for libgcc_eh libubacktrace Apr 29 13:46:50 kergoth: any ideas regarding https://github.com/kergoth/tslib/issues/5 ? Apr 29 14:35:50 hi , is dm355 and dm365 same ? i see oe only supports DM355 ? Apr 29 14:35:54 leopardboard? Apr 29 14:37:04 wow Apr 29 15:29:54 morning Apr 29 15:30:01 morning Apr 29 15:30:31 hey CosmicPenguin, how's it going? Apr 29 15:30:35 haven't talked to you in a while Apr 29 15:39:09 kergoth: its going. How about you? Apr 29 15:39:38 pretty good, busy, same shit as always, hacking on oe stuff day and night -- i need a hobby Apr 29 16:02:09 This evening the role of CosmicPenguin will be played by a kernel rebasing monkey Apr 29 16:04:07 exciting stuff /eyeroll Apr 29 16:05:23 Welcome to my world Apr 29 17:22:21 blech. Apr 29 17:23:22 is there a mirror with source packages that I can use? I'm starting from scratch on the 2011.03 and keep finding pacakges that doen't exist at the recipe locations anymore. Apr 29 17:41:17 darknighte: sources.openembedded.org Apr 29 17:41:51 strange, I thought that was already set up. I must have something broken in my config. Apr 29 17:42:06 what distro are you buidling Apr 29 17:42:11 Angstrom Apr 29 17:42:16 hmmm Apr 29 17:42:21 then use angstrom mirror Apr 29 17:42:25 that has a good source mirror Apr 29 17:43:04 2011.3 maintenance branch? Apr 29 17:43:26 yep. with a little bit of changes internally, but mostly to get around proxy stuff. Apr 29 17:43:27 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/ Apr 29 17:43:53 hmmm, I wonder if the proxies are tripping you up Apr 29 17:43:56 I know we were thinking about setting up a mirror internally for a while, so there might be some residual from tha. Apr 29 17:44:10 Crofton: For sure! What a pain. Apr 29 17:44:56 did you look at the oebb.sh script? Apr 29 17:45:06 khem, regarding your python 3rd party extensions issue: maybe you could try http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/3033/ Apr 29 17:45:19 I think koen (and others) have done quite a bit of work on the proxy issue Apr 29 17:45:39 Crofton: it has been getting much better Apr 29 17:46:17 darknighte: your IT must acknowledge that you work on opensource Apr 29 17:46:44 * darknighte wishes that were true! Apr 29 17:46:57 * darknighte sighs heavily Apr 29 19:10:24 * kergoth sighs Apr 29 19:10:30 natty upgrade just made my machine not bootable Apr 29 19:10:34 i should really know better by now Apr 29 19:10:36 uhm? Apr 29 19:11:03 you have a special machine? Apr 29 19:11:14 nope Apr 29 19:13:14 * foerster won't upgrade for fear that things will break. Apr 29 19:13:21 kergoth: what was it running before narry Apr 29 19:13:22 natty Apr 29 19:13:32 maverick Apr 29 19:13:34 maverick ? Apr 29 19:13:40 hmm that should have worked Apr 29 19:13:51 what does it complain about Apr 29 19:13:56 foerster: yeah, i was hesitant, nearly every attempt to upgrade to a newer ubuntu has ended in miserable failure to me for the past 4 releases or so Apr 29 19:14:03 i should know better, need to wait until it stabilizes first Apr 29 19:14:09 kergoth: I'm still on lucid Apr 29 19:14:13 hehe Apr 29 19:14:25 kergoth: I have upgraded ok for past year or so Apr 29 19:14:41 infact I was amazed when I could upgrade my machine from 8.04 to 10.04 Apr 29 19:14:46 and it still worked Apr 29 19:14:59 On my personal machines, I upgraded every release and never had a problem. Apr 29 19:15:28 usually wiping out is better Apr 29 19:15:33 I have a script Apr 29 19:15:54 which backsup all I need to network drive Apr 29 19:16:07 and then a set of steps to do on newly installed machine Apr 29 19:16:29 it takes me 30mins to rebuild a machine to the point I was on previous release Apr 29 19:16:33 so I prefer to wipe out Apr 29 19:16:37 wow, fast Apr 29 19:17:13 I'm too scared to have OE stop working, especially since I'm trying to get a product finalized for release! Down time would be killer. Apr 29 19:17:20 one of these days I want to try gentoo Apr 29 19:17:38 yes dont upgrade if it aint broke Apr 29 19:17:48 foerster, good luck! Apr 29 19:18:04 Crofton|work: thanks! Apr 29 19:18:34 kergoth: whats the order of evaluations 1. _append override 2. virtclass 3. anon python func Apr 29 19:18:42 I'm glad i just finished this sprint Apr 29 19:19:09 khem: I'd expect virtclass is applied before appends and overrides, but haven't checked Apr 29 19:19:11 I have enough trouble getting OE to do what I want, let alone aggravating the situation by upgrading my host machine. :) Apr 29 19:19:47 kergoth: I thought virtclass munged at very end Apr 29 19:20:02 and how about python snippets Apr 29 19:20:12 they are evaluated in the oder they appear ? Apr 29 19:20:18 snippets are the same as variable references, they're evaluated at expansion time, period Apr 29 19:20:41 hmm Apr 29 19:21:13 python () { gettext_after_parse(d) Apr 29 19:21:13 } Apr 29 19:21:39 this will be referenced Apr 29 19:21:54 essentially if someone inherits gettext Apr 29 19:21:57 * woglinde thinks kergoth has a special machine which needs special kernel Apr 29 19:22:12 it's a regular box with no special hardware at all Apr 29 19:22:19 well natty needs a good graphics card Apr 29 19:22:28 sata, nvidia video, nothing crazy Apr 29 19:22:39 otherwise they also have a classic booting option Apr 29 19:23:07 kergoth and were it fails? Apr 29 19:23:09 initrd? Apr 29 19:23:15 grub? Apr 29 19:23:42 that would be easy to fix once you boot into liveCD and mount your hd Apr 29 19:24:04 yeah, i'm sure i can fix it by reinstalling grub, cpu powers off before grub even shows up Apr 29 19:24:08 but still pretty weak Apr 29 19:24:40 ? Apr 29 19:24:43 kergoth: when will gettext_after_parse evaluate in my case Apr 29 19:24:51 when cpu powersoff before grub, there is something broken anyway Apr 29 19:25:00 well, it worked fine before ubuntu fucked it up again Apr 29 19:25:24 what did you have before? Apr 29 19:25:28 maverick? Apr 29 19:26:41 yep Apr 29 19:27:08 so its no grub1->grub2 think Apr 29 19:27:11 ups thing Apr 29 19:31:32 so, I'm trying to use the the angstrom mirror, but I appear to be putting it into the wrong place. any tips on where to put it? Apr 29 19:36:18 darknighte: inherit angstrom_mirrors Apr 29 19:36:37 or angatrom-mirrors whatever the class is called in local.conf Apr 29 19:36:39 INHERIT Apr 29 19:36:49 I tried that, but it didn't appear to work for me. Apr 29 19:39:56 I'm may have had garbage in my tmp folder, because I just started it again, using the own_mirrors.bbclass, which is tied to the SOURCE_MIRROR_URL variable. Apr 29 19:41:38 it's hard to tell as I turned all the debugging output on from bitbake, and, well, it's a lot. Apr 29 19:42:51 darknighte: watch the traffic with wireshark? Apr 29 19:43:13 foerster: thanks for the suggestion. Apr 29 19:44:13 In retrsospect, I probably should have purged my DL_DIR to force the issue. Apr 29 19:45:01 I used own-mirrors.bbclass last night for the first time to leverage the DL_DIR from my desktop to my laptop. it worked as expected. Apr 29 19:46:31 khem: you may have hit it with the INHERIT case. Apr 29 19:46:52 foerster: so, what steps did you do? Apr 29 19:47:51 just set: Apr 29 19:48:01 SOURCE_MIRROR_URL = "http://192.168.10.82:8333/" Apr 29 19:48:04 INHERIT += "own-mirrors" Apr 29 19:48:12 in local.conf Apr 29 19:48:48 darn it. I must have a typo. Apr 29 19:48:52 let me look at it again. Apr 29 19:50:00 darknighte: run bitbake -e Apr 29 19:50:15 then you can look and see what SOURCE_MIRROR_URL and PREMIRRORS are set to Apr 29 19:50:18 i just did on the top level. Apr 29 19:50:59 SOURCE_MIRROR_URL was right. Apr 29 19:51:04 I just found the issue. Apr 29 19:51:16 * darknighte bangs head into wall several times for being an ideot Apr 29 19:53:54 foerster: in case you're curious, here's the bad line: INHERT += own-mirrors Apr 29 19:54:31 Ah. And no complaining by bitbake when parsing that? Apr 29 19:54:46 hey. I have a bitbake question if someone has a min. Apr 29 19:55:19 I have a project I just pulled down and built. I removed "WORK_RM" and I can see the source files. Can I patch and rebuild directly in that directory somehow? Apr 29 19:55:58 you can stay with WORK_RM Apr 29 19:56:02 ie, can I edit the source and rebuild for testing before I commit my changes? bitbake -f project does not seem to do that. Apr 29 19:56:02 foerster: not that I saw. Apr 29 19:56:06 use bitbake -c devshell foo Apr 29 19:56:23 than you can run all the scripts from temp dir Apr 29 19:56:29 darknighte: bummer. Well, hopefully you have it working now. Apr 29 19:56:32 woglinde. OK., cool. Apr 29 19:56:34 use bitbake -c build foo Apr 29 19:56:41 builds all besides the remove Apr 29 19:56:54 foerster: Thanks. I just kicked it off again. Apr 29 19:57:32 hmm. devs hell. Good name for it. Apr 29 19:57:55 woglinde: thx for the tip. Apr 29 19:58:13 no prob Apr 29 19:58:32 hell comes from poorly code quality Apr 29 19:58:41 * darknighte wishes he'd noticed the devs hell thing before... Apr 29 19:58:44 of other software Apr 29 19:59:07 woglinde: +1 Apr 29 19:59:58 also comes from *tons* of outdated bitbake info on the web. Apr 29 20:00:12 hm Apr 29 20:00:22 I spent about 2 hours trying to get interactive mode working before I started checking version info and found devshell :( Apr 29 20:00:35 Far_McKon: only way to know this stuff is to suffer through it ;) Apr 29 20:00:37 -i is gone Apr 29 20:00:47 but maybee will come back Apr 29 20:00:50 foerester +1 Apr 29 20:01:00 foerester: +1 Apr 29 20:01:03 ok. back to code. thxall. Apr 29 20:01:22 foerester: although, it's always nice when someone can "nudge" you back in the right diretion. Apr 29 20:02:00 darknighte: that's true. I'm stubborn though. If I bang my head enough, I usually figure it out ;) Apr 29 20:02:34 woglinde: last I heard, -i was being left to any interested party to pick up and make work. Apr 29 20:03:05 darknighte: feel free! Apr 29 20:03:10 darknighte that the comebacl Apr 29 20:03:15 ups comeback Apr 29 20:03:58 I thought about it and may take a look. I really used that feature *a lot* Apr 29 20:04:15 If anyone hasn't tried it, -u goggle is nice. And on failure, you can right-click -> send to pastebin for the error log. Apr 29 20:04:30 thought I cheated, and the pastebin url is dumped to the terminal that spawned the UI Apr 29 20:05:14 darknighte: I'd suggest making the text input box in the ncurses UI work, as a way to submit commands. might need something to map the command-line interface to the cooker command interface, not sure Apr 29 20:06:11 kergoth: I may get with you later for ideas on how to make it work. Apr 29 20:06:20 k Apr 29 20:06:21 l8r all. Apr 29 20:38:39 hey woglinde Apr 29 20:39:23 he ant Apr 29 20:39:44 question: better having uinput built-in or as module? Apr 29 20:40:20 having it inn kernel -> FATAL: Module uinput not found. Apr 29 20:40:27 some stupid script... Apr 29 20:40:44 is solved if built as module Apr 29 20:51:57 03Andrea Adami  07org.openembedded.dev * r63edb15ae9 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Apr 29 20:51:57 linux: update Zaurus defconfigs Apr 29 20:51:57 * build uinput as module Apr 29 20:51:57 Signed-off-by: Andrea Adami Apr 29 20:58:40 ant__: btw Apr 29 20:59:01 I see opie_*_cvs.bb recipes in some opie-* dirs Apr 29 20:59:19 ah Apr 29 20:59:30 they have git inside Apr 29 20:59:52 I've thought that was recipes looking into hh.org cvs Apr 29 20:59:59 03Andrea Adami  07org.openembedded.dev * rc2e89f1361 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-2.6.38/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Apr 29 20:59:59 linux: update Zaurus defconfigs for 2.6.38.4 Apr 29 20:59:59 * build uinput as module Apr 29 20:59:59 * load on demand Apr 29 20:59:59 Signed-off-by: Andrea Adami Apr 29 21:00:08 03Andrea Adami  07org.openembedded.dev * r2443357a73 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Apr 29 21:00:08 Revert "linux: update Zaurus defconfigs" Apr 29 21:00:08 This reverts commit 63edb15ae9d37de9fa784eeff5a0448cf68d7244. Apr 29 21:01:41 Jay7: I was still testing for you...I first pushed one unwanted change Apr 29 21:01:57 ant__: thanks Apr 29 21:02:13 * Jay7 is looking on fbreader.. Apr 29 21:02:31 it would be nice to write recipe for building fbreader with opie.. Apr 29 21:12:08 okay, nixos is really nifty Apr 29 21:13:14 may be we should use nix for packaging Apr 29 21:13:18 on oe too Apr 29 21:14:07 it's just such an interesting concept Apr 29 21:14:36 when it builds a new "configuration", it basically reconstructs the entire distro, just pointing at different self contained packages, and reconstructing /etc from its config system Apr 29 21:14:42 mindbending :) Apr 29 21:14:53 i really really really like how you can go back to previous states easily Apr 29 21:14:55 yeah imperative systems Apr 29 21:15:03 lack that Apr 29 21:15:08 * kergoth nods Apr 29 21:15:10 one can change a /etc/blah Apr 29 21:15:16 lvm snapshots is other way to rollback ;) Apr 29 21:15:22 and kill the rollback Apr 29 21:15:58 today when you lost ur system to upgrade you might be likingit even more ;) Apr 29 21:16:01 and it's so easy to change a user's configuration without changing the rest of the system, due to the self contained hashed packages Apr 29 21:16:10 indeed, that's what got me envying :) Apr 29 21:16:24 Jay7: well you can backup whole your os on a secondary disk Apr 29 21:16:26 started playing with it in a vm the other day, quite intreguing Apr 29 21:16:32 thats not the point Apr 29 21:16:36 yeah, true, i really do need a better backup system also Apr 29 21:16:52 but this just buys you so much, and means your system is always in a coherent state Apr 29 21:17:41 wonder if anyone's crosscompiled the package manager itself Apr 29 21:18:00 doubt their build infrastructure supports cross, building a target distro would likely be similar to how debian does it Apr 29 21:18:11 but we could look into it through oe Apr 29 21:18:16 * kergoth ponders Apr 29 21:21:51 would have to generate the hash the same way they do, to build for compatible prefixes Apr 29 21:21:58 heh Apr 29 22:27:02 khem: just try Gentoo asap :) Apr 29 22:27:23 ctarball of /etc is all what you need Apr 29 22:28:29 (just to readd your customizations) Apr 29 22:55:34 he obi Apr 29 23:54:30 * kergoth tries stock debian instead for a bit **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 30 02:59:58 2011