**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 14 02:59:59 2011 May 14 09:08:11 hiho May 14 09:08:19 * woglinde waves from linuxtag again May 14 09:08:58 hey May 14 09:09:41 jama I am at the navit booth today again May 14 09:13:30 woglinde: good, I hope to use navit on n900 for my road trip on east coast again :) May 14 09:14:40 args May 14 09:14:44 :( May 14 09:14:52 ask rd for an actual package May 14 09:15:10 but I promised the other 12 n900 users here to update the package May 14 09:15:48 13 May 14 09:15:53 I have also SHR image on n900, but newer package for maemo would be nice in case we don't have out of the box gps in shr image in time May 14 09:16:41 hm are you reveng the chip communication? May 14 09:16:56 most of that has been done IIRC May 14 09:17:23 also MeeGo has working GPS and the package may be open, don't remember May 14 09:17:24 phone calls are working with gisi now May 14 09:17:47 cool May 14 09:18:04 and after sms mrmoku said he will look on gps :) May 14 09:18:22 gtg.. bbl May 14 10:31:22 <_zxdx> hello, have problem like this, http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/45200 May 14 10:31:53 <_zxdx> installing fontconfig fontconfig native doesn't helps May 14 10:32:00 <_zxdx> fontconfig-native* May 14 10:33:28 <_zxdx> acording log file, when complie gs_unix.c include is "-I./obj -I./base" May 14 10:34:48 <_zxdx> a try to pass right include dir with EXTRA_OECONF="... --includedir=${STAGING_INCDIR}" but no any luck.. May 14 10:35:20 <_zxdx> =\ May 14 10:49:43 Hi! May 14 10:49:56 i am using bitbake 1.8.12 May 14 10:50:06 building an OE based distro May 14 10:50:19 can anyone tell me how to remove checksum checks May 14 10:51:02 i do not want to do this checking, I am already having all the packages in local system and this check is creating lot of compiling time for me as of now May 14 10:51:05 any hints May 14 10:51:06 ?? May 14 10:52:17 <_zxdx> OE_ALLOW_INSECURE_DOWNLOADS="1"? May 14 10:53:03 shall i sent this as environment variable May 14 10:53:04 ?? May 14 10:53:37 <_zxdx> wirte it in local.conf May 14 10:53:40 <_zxdx> write May 14 11:00:40 will it change something in execution sequence also May 14 11:00:41 ?? May 14 11:02:02 i am observing that earlier it was taking some time to get a task execute and after this it is doing very fast. May 14 11:04:33 <_zxdx> S_A try pls bitbake gs May 14 11:05:41 what it will do ? is t something specific to gumsticx ? May 14 11:06:11 <_zxdx> o no, it's specific to BB May 14 11:06:29 <_zxdx> S_A what gumstix device u use? May 14 11:07:36 <_zxdx> gs = ghostscript =\ have problem with it on BB May 14 11:08:32 My OE custom build is not using ghostscript, it's very minimal embedded os May 14 11:08:47 i just upgraded xorg packages in it May 14 11:09:12 now every time I am getting checksum error and there are so many xorg packages May 14 11:09:29 and i get this checksum mismatch error while building May 14 11:10:14 <_zxdx> hm May 14 12:44:33 mickeyl: hey May 14 12:44:53 still working on minimal? May 14 12:45:44 i'm using it for my things, yes May 14 12:46:02 needs a bit of care May 14 12:46:39 once ago you were a few devs developing minimal May 14 12:46:55 what exactly needs tweaking? May 14 12:46:59 now I guewss khem moved to oe-core trying to define a 'default' May 14 12:47:18 well, there are some masking to do, like angstrom does May 14 12:47:46 http://paste.debian.net/116942/ May 14 12:47:56 then psplash bar doesn't progress May 14 12:48:18 more, unfortunately I use psplash-zap and thios pulls psplash-angstrom May 14 12:48:44 me and Tartarus we got already two reverts trying to make it angstrom-free May 14 12:48:55 sounds good May 14 12:48:58 ;) May 14 12:48:59 patches appreciated May 14 12:50:53 about the latter point, last hope would be to create a psplash-minimal but I could vomit :/ May 14 12:56:10 bbl May 14 15:48:40 hmm.. i have some stupid questions... what should one use nowadays? openembedded? oe-core? May 14 15:49:53 zecke: I would go for oe-core May 14 15:49:58 and meta-openembedded May 14 15:50:15 as it looks like this is what will be master soon May 14 15:51:08 hrw: and poky will merge/cherry-pick from oe-core? May 14 15:51:21 poky will use oe-core as base May 14 15:51:57 iirc May 14 15:52:54 thanks May 14 15:54:02 at least thats how I understood our hackers May 14 15:54:23 use oe-core, unless you are maintaining existing product May 14 15:54:41 then use maintaince-2011.03 branch - right? May 14 15:54:46 yeah May 14 15:54:51 this is what I am trying to do May 14 15:54:56 Crofton|work: what is the contribution model for oe-core? pull requests? May 14 15:55:05 that is my understanding May 14 15:55:35 I am finishing up some oe stuff, then need to engage or-core etc May 14 15:55:41 zecke: yes May 14 15:55:53 zecke: oe-core took poky/yocto merge style May 14 15:56:21 this has been a long time stumbling point for people doing product work, the constant dev churn May 14 15:58:26 thats why I created 2 stable branches in past May 14 15:58:32 yep May 14 15:58:38 but both failed to atract people May 14 15:59:04 these are all good things May 14 16:00:38 * hrw wonder what to do at SXF between 21:00 and 23:45 May 14 16:00:48 there is no free wifi there ;( May 14 16:01:06 which is SXF? May 14 16:01:14 berlin airport May 14 16:01:21 ah May 14 16:01:31 you wait for the bus? May 14 16:01:39 I am still in budapest cause my flight has 22 minutes delay May 14 16:01:42 yes, I do May 14 16:01:46 s/22/220 May 14 16:02:30 normally I would be in berlin now or maybe even sitting in a bus May 14 16:02:45 and be at home around 20:00 instead of 02:00 May 14 16:03:48 in half hour they will allow us to pass security gate May 14 16:04:04 I wonder how long queue will be for that May 14 16:04:26 cause here I do not see 'if you have easyjet speedy boarding then go here' gate May 14 16:06:51 hrw: why do you come to berlin? May 14 16:07:23 Crofton|work: is there a plan to improve the oe-core docu? e.g. what to do with it... May 14 16:07:45 and... i feel stupid.. how does it find the ../meta directory? the BBPATH does not seem to be set May 14 16:08:11 koean has a setup sript somewhere I believe May 14 16:08:31 zecke: it is nearest airport for me May 14 16:08:43 does easyjet charge for checked bags? May 14 16:08:45 zecke: congratulations on sysmocom May 14 16:08:59 Crofton|work: company paid for 1 bag May 14 16:09:26 hrw: thanks, will be a long run until it can feed someone... May 14 16:09:28 Crofton|work: trip + 1 bag + speedy boarding < any other option May 14 16:09:43 zecke: who knows... May 14 16:10:38 zecke, good luck getting yourself fed :) May 14 16:11:28 for easyjet I can buy a ticket on their website? May 14 16:11:36 Crofton|work: yes May 14 16:11:54 I am goig to a conf in Brussels in June May 14 16:12:04 and need to meet my wife in Northern Italy May 14 16:12:08 after May 14 16:15:00 zecke, I think it will be a while before we have good layer management tooling May 14 16:18:44 ah okay.. conf/bblayers.. points to meta. May 14 18:18:42 hmmm... poky has broken uclibc support and oe-core looks to have it fixed May 14 18:18:50 oe-core has broken perl.. poky seems to do well May 14 18:20:52 ah no.. oe-core has broken uclibc too May 14 18:41:09 woglinde: did you attempt an oe-core uclibc built? May 14 18:41:29 no May 14 18:41:50 I will push later my other stuff May 14 18:42:05 but I am unsure if I should push the ld.so stuff too May 14 18:43:01 pb_: i have a unix question... I set my terminal to raw mode... if I want to handle CTRL+Z.. what is the C/posix call to suspend myself? May 14 18:53:44 khem ping May 14 18:55:57 hi likewise May 14 19:18:30 woglinde: whats up May 14 19:19:04 khem I have the two patches for some ldos supprt integerated and I am unsure to push them into oe May 14 19:19:14 ups ldso May 14 19:19:19 mom May 14 19:19:23 post to ml May 14 19:19:32 I can take a look May 14 19:20:53 http://lists.uclibc.org/pipermail/uclibc/2011-March/045004.html May 14 19:21:00 http://lists.uclibc.org/pipermail/uclibc/2011-March/045003.html May 14 19:21:31 first would help removing some uclibc patches May 14 19:21:42 second would help with openjdk May 14 19:21:55 not to use ldso.conf May 14 19:22:11 dont run time tested them yet May 14 19:22:39 hi khem May 14 19:23:39 hi ericben May 14 19:23:44 khem: git hook seems broken as there is no more message on irc, nor email to the commit mailing list : do you know what is the problem ? May 14 19:23:47 hi woglinde May 14 19:25:00 I'm back to OE for a few weeks I think after a long time doing other things ;) May 14 19:25:02 woglinde: first one looks ok May 14 19:26:28 woglinde: second one is ok too May 14 19:26:33 ericben: hello May 14 19:26:55 concerning the perl-native problem on ubuntu 11.04 : is there a consensus on the way to solve it ? May 14 19:26:57 khem okay May 14 19:27:07 I will runtime test and than push to master May 14 19:27:13 ericben: use uname -i May 14 19:28:53 khem: ok May 14 19:29:32 will try this in a VM, we must have a patch for this in master now that 11.04 is out May 14 19:30:54 ericben: I don't have the issue with poky/oe-core.. so the question is if different perl versions are used. May 14 19:31:21 zecke: I think oe-core already have the fix inside (from waht I understood on the ml) May 14 19:32:23 oh they have a new logo also ? May 14 19:32:36 ericben: commit-hook: hmm. i don't have the required access anymore. May 14 19:32:49 pb has I think May 14 19:33:03 hm opie image finished May 14 19:33:18 zecke: that's a detail no problem May 14 19:33:34 ericben: hehe, true. it means I can't help. May 14 19:33:35 ericben: it was working fine isnt it May 14 19:33:46 since when did it go bad May 14 19:34:40 khem: well last time I was here (a few weeks ago) it was working fine (IRC + ML), I'm back since thursday and didn't see any log here and last mail to the commits ML is from 11/05 00:22 May 14 19:35:22 hmm May 14 19:35:27 zecke: for perl in yocto : http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/meta?id=70505879094cb83cf788ec791d234e366f2bbb7f + http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/meta?id=49e2fcc60458853d7ff7f2908e695b11a95f3061 May 14 19:36:55 khem: in the second link, they replaced uname with /usr/lib/*-linux-gnu . This may address the problem reported on ubuntu where one reports i386 and the other has i686 ? May 14 19:38:36 dumb May 14 19:54:52 ericben: I should have used uname -i to start with May 14 19:55:17 but I did not have 32bit machine to see what they called it May 14 19:55:53 khem: OK will try it in a 32bits VM thanks May 14 19:58:00 ericben: oe-commits ml is fine May 14 19:59:02 khem: you mean you got emails from what I commited today ? May 14 19:59:26 http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2011-May/thread.html May 14 19:59:34 i see messages from 11th May 14 19:59:45 you said 5th was last May 14 20:00:06 sorry I said 11/05 in US it is 05/11 :) May 14 20:00:19 here we say DD/MM :) May 14 20:00:26 oh May 14 20:00:30 :) May 14 20:02:16 ericben: do u have any commits to do May 14 20:02:27 can you try one and see now if it works May 14 20:05:15 hm May 14 20:05:17 http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Globalscale-Technologies-D2Plug-and-Marvell-PXA510/?kc=rss May 14 20:07:04 woglinde: do u have anything to push to oe repo May 14 20:07:22 woglinde: I want to check if notifications are up again May 14 20:08:32 khem not now May 14 20:08:41 have to runtime test now my opie image May 14 20:08:45 k May 14 20:10:21 woglinde: that marvell thing seems similar to genesi May 14 20:10:24 smarttop May 14 20:13:53 hm May 14 20:14:04 but its more a sucessor of sheeva May 14 20:14:14 with a CPU closer to iMX53 than iMX51 May 14 20:14:35 even better than 53 (GbE , dual PCIe ) May 14 20:17:08 03Khem Raj  07master * r52a774baab 10openembedded.git/recipes/eglibc/eglibc_2.12.bb: May 14 20:17:08 eglibc-2.12: Bump srcrev to latest on 2.12 branch May 14 20:17:08 Signed-off-by: Khem Raj May 14 20:17:19 khem its working May 14 20:17:44 cool, thanks khem I was still searching for something to push ;-) May 14 20:17:45 :) May 14 20:18:07 yeah i had this lying around May 14 20:19:05 ok ml is fine too now May 14 20:19:07 http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2011-May/057282.html May 14 20:19:21 ericben: thanks for noticing the breakage May 14 20:20:58 * khem crawls back into bed May 14 20:21:24 khem sick? May 14 20:21:36 yes a bit May 14 20:21:41 okay May 14 20:21:48 sleep well May 14 20:21:50 cough May 14 20:22:03 it wont let me sleep May 14 20:22:14 later than May 14 20:22:24 I am enjoying my beer here May 14 20:22:28 la8er May 14 20:25:25 he florian May 14 20:28:12 re May 14 20:28:15 hi woglinde May 14 20:29:01 florian so you got home well May 14 20:29:02 fine May 14 20:29:33 woglinde: no still at my brother's flat in berlin May 14 20:29:46 oh okay May 14 21:05:15 how did Linuxtag go? May 14 21:31:53 hi May 14 21:38:50 crofton was okay May 14 21:39:06 cannt say about the last 2 days, were I was at the navit booth May 14 21:41:21 these were pretty good... apart from the fact linuxtag was very quite this year. May 14 21:41:34 yes May 14 21:41:37 even today May 14 21:41:44 there wasnt a large croud May 14 21:42:13 i think we had a good show and met lots of interesting and interested people - much more then last year May 14 21:42:23 very good May 14 21:42:36 did people ask about the yoctopus? May 14 21:42:44 some yes May 14 21:42:45 and the booth was better - we had a large table May 14 21:42:49 yes indeed May 14 21:42:51 cool May 14 21:43:27 yes the two tables were perfect May 14 21:43:40 and we had numpty physics May 14 21:44:50 on the friendly arm May 14 21:46:56 and on the archos 7 May 14 21:47:40 I managed to break the friendly arm yesterday... mainline kernel seems to have a broken nand driver for s3c May 14 21:47:57 oh no May 14 21:48:12 numpty physics? May 14 21:48:52 yep... 2.6.38 failed on my s3c2440 based board too. I guess the driver is the same May 14 21:49:51 oh mr_nice May 14 21:50:37 crofton we need a gnu-radio device next year May 14 21:52:48 ok May 14 21:53:09 any idea when linuxtag will be next year? May 14 21:53:24 hm mom May 14 21:53:50 hm wasn announced yet May 14 21:54:18 zecke has one May 14 21:55:38 ite jama May 14 21:57:56 crfoton ah May 14 21:58:05 23. bis 26. Mai 2012 May 14 21:58:09 in berlin again May 14 21:58:43 hi May 14 21:59:16 I am looking to learn OE and use http://www.kernel-labs.org/files/openembedded-guide/ May 14 21:59:29 I can't get to mtn May 14 21:59:41 uhm we long switched to git May 14 21:59:44 does anyone have some alternatives May 14 21:59:49 better read on www.openembedded.org May 14 21:59:49 ? May 14 22:00:02 ok May 14 22:00:04 no random third party sites May 14 22:00:05 will do May 15 01:15:30 ok May 15 01:15:56 did follow http://www.openembedded.org/index.php/Getting_started May 15 01:16:24 but did ~/stuff instead of /stuff May 15 01:16:40 when I try to build nano May 15 01:16:48 I get msg May 15 01:17:16 ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'nano' May 15 01:17:29 what gives ? May 15 02:15:00 check your env vars May 15 02:40:40 Crofton|work: ping May 15 02:42:08 pong May 15 02:42:14 for a little while **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 15 02:59:58 2011