**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 12 02:59:57 2011 Oct 12 06:43:26 * eFfeM_work is reading the log after I left yesterday Oct 12 06:44:25 mickey I will very likely be at the GA, hotel and ELC is booked, plane will probably be booked today Oct 12 06:44:45 mickey|office: ^^ Oct 12 06:47:34 Crofton Crofton|work , didn't hear back on the wiki yet, it is not working for me Oct 12 06:47:55 ~seen ka6sox Oct 12 06:47:56 ka6sox was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 2d 5h 16m 40s ago, saying: 'heh'. Oct 12 06:48:53 Crofton|work: not too urgent, if I want to bring up something I'll send an email instead Oct 12 08:18:25 gnutls can't find the exception C++ header Oct 12 08:44:32 eFfeM_work: excellent. would you mind acting as my proxy? Oct 12 08:45:08 mickey|office: yes ofc Oct 12 08:45:22 eFfeM_work: excellent. i'll send you the proxy statement asap. Oct 12 08:45:25 thanks Oct 12 08:45:52 mickey|office: if there are any special things you like me to say on your behalf, let me know too Oct 12 08:46:07 eFfeM_work: oki, thanks Oct 12 08:47:08 good morning Oct 12 08:48:21 morning mckoan Oct 12 08:59:33 hi mickey|office Oct 12 09:30:01 morning Oct 12 09:30:20 hi XorA Oct 12 09:41:06 good morning Oct 12 09:41:24 oe core without kernel.org sort of sucks :-/ Oct 12 09:41:44 indeed, made that experience recently too :P Oct 12 09:43:41 * ant_work was reading about the "Trojaner" disassembled by CCC Oct 12 09:44:03 heh Oct 12 09:44:52 6 pages on 'die Welt' last sunday... Oct 12 09:44:59 ant_work: Four pages including the first in the Sunday issue of FAZ... Oct 12 09:45:18 scary Oct 12 09:45:53 funny Oct 12 09:46:19 The company who did it is ~20km from here :) Oct 12 09:46:51 florian: you mean some university where they hired the students? ;) Oct 12 09:47:24 Jin^eLD: heh... well maybe, but the university is closer :) Oct 12 09:48:07 wasn' it from Bayern? Oct 12 09:48:58 some parts at least, but the company who seems to be the source is in a small town in Hessen Oct 12 09:49:15 someone pretends it would hav been modified Oct 12 09:49:28 heh Oct 12 09:50:49 From the fact that mostly germans were involved in using it its quite likely there are lots of similar ones dadapted for multiple purposes around. Oct 12 09:50:52 eh adapted Oct 12 10:09:55 florian, ant_work: We should try to get into government/agency/authororities funded work. Having this connections they seem to pay you a lot of money Oct 12 10:09:59 . Oct 12 10:11:11 And I heard because the authorities do not pay a lot all good IT professionals are working elsewere and that is why they do not have any means to even check the products they ordered. Oct 12 10:11:21 PaulePanter: I can confirm that they do... but it comes along with a lot of paperwork and formal stuff. Oct 12 11:07:46 ka6sox: are you also involved in the wiki. It seems some of us (at least Ulf and me, but guess there are others) lost write access Oct 12 11:12:13 heyda ! it's me again :-) Oct 12 11:21:37 heh wiki is totally broken :-) Oct 12 11:22:56 eFfeM_work: try editing the page by going to the www.openembedded.org/wiki/ version of it Oct 12 11:23:09 ah ok Oct 12 11:23:22 eFfeM_work: it looks like someone messed up the virtual hosting, wiki.openembedded.org/net just doesnt work Oct 12 11:23:41 .net is the most broken as all pages are missing Oct 12 11:25:55 XorA: I recall that problem, must say I forgot about that, checked the url, but I am logged in and looking at http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Testing still no edit tab or edit thingies at the sections Oct 12 11:26:34 * XorA has them and AFAIK no special privs, oddnedd Oct 12 11:26:43 oddness Oct 12 11:27:06 on the same page? strange, I used to be able to edit that one, while moving or while adding spam protection it got lost I guess Oct 12 11:27:34 http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Testing Oct 12 11:27:36 same page Oct 12 11:29:10 is it a simple edit needed? Oct 12 11:29:18 XorA you seem to have differnet rights : http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsers Oct 12 11:29:25 XorA (Talk | contribs) ‎(bureaucrat, administrator) [4 edits in the last 91 days] Oct 12 11:29:34 EFfeM (Talk | contribs) [3 edits in the last 91 days] Oct 12 11:30:03 interesting quirck , if I click on my contribs the last edit is from Feb 7, which to me is > 91 days Oct 12 11:30:37 XorA: I don't really need an edit, just noticed that I could not modify the prague page Oct 12 11:31:08 eFfeM_work: made you a buerocrat Oct 12 11:31:17 eFfeM_work: wonder if that does anything Oct 12 11:31:39 no change Oct 12 11:31:52 guess it is limited to admins Oct 12 11:32:03 try approved Oct 12 11:32:39 I have no idea why I have admin rights so I don't want to mess with that one Oct 12 11:32:40 might need to logout/login Oct 12 11:33:11 ah that worked Oct 12 11:33:44 well we shall leave it at that so you can get on until you can ask admins the correct reason Oct 12 11:33:50 guess it is indeed what was needed Oct 12 11:33:51 okie Oct 12 11:33:53 thanks Oct 12 11:34:16 * XorA doesnt have first clue about wiki rights, just noted Crofton is approved Oct 12 11:34:37 who else was in dificulty? Oct 12 11:35:47 Ulf Oct 12 11:35:58 he mentioned it on the ML earlier today Oct 12 11:36:04 he is not approved either Oct 12 11:36:09 looks like approved is the flag Oct 12 11:37:17 guess so Oct 12 11:37:30 Ill answer on email list Oct 12 11:39:55 great, guess approving is added to reduce spam and not all regulars have been approved Oct 12 11:42:05 have sent email hopefully someone gets back Oct 12 11:44:12 urg, talk with ka6sox about the wiki Oct 12 11:44:27 my wiki skills are poor Oct 12 11:44:33 and Oct 12 11:44:38 I have not had any coffee Oct 12 11:48:15 * XorA is quite happy to pick up the odd admin task like this, but not without nods from ka6sox :-) Oct 12 11:53:37 * eFfeM_work pours some coffee for XorA onto his keyboard hoping it'll find its way to the UK Oct 12 11:54:17 (using ICRP, Internet Coffee Routing Protocol) Oct 12 11:54:23 dont wreck keyboard on my account :-) Oct 12 11:54:31 :-) Oct 12 11:54:48 its not like I provide any code to OE anymore Oct 12 12:13:51 can anyone point me to an alternate git-repo for connman-gnome_0.5.bb ? Oct 12 12:43:27 XorA, that would be great Oct 12 13:11:09 lautriv: There are tarballs on the yocto mirror if you enable those Oct 12 14:37:59 XorA, you are approved with Special Cow Powers Oct 12 14:38:46 ka6sox: just wanted to verify I am allowed to approve people for wiki editing? Oct 12 14:39:14 ka6sox: didnt want to circumvent by accident any procedure you may have had in place Oct 12 14:39:48 XorA, that *is* the method. Oct 12 14:40:08 ka6sox: cool, I shall approve Ulf then :-) Oct 12 14:40:15 an admin must promote someone manually upon request (and hopefully some kind of turing test) Oct 12 14:40:33 Ulf bought me beer before, computers dont do that yet :-) Oct 12 14:41:06 unlike overworked SysAdmins who can't drive 4+hrs to buy you one :( Oct 12 14:41:25 ka6sox: it is likely I shall be back next year Oct 12 14:41:41 ka6sox: and next year I shall be better prepared and not ill hopefully Oct 12 14:41:52 next time I'll carve out time if I have to do it in blood. Oct 12 14:46:49 okay, time for me to get going Oct 12 14:47:27 Zero, Dark, :30 and I'm outta here. Oct 12 16:19:19 http://xkcd.com/963/ <3 Oct 12 16:21:10 kergoth: Yeah, tell me about it. >.> I've had some f-ed up xorg.confs Oct 12 16:21:25 I do... nasty... things with X Oct 12 20:24:46 im trying to determine what triggers the creation of gitconfig Oct 12 20:25:14 because mine is not getting created =) Oct 12 20:25:20 what do you mean? Oct 12 20:25:26 .git/config is created when you clone/init Oct 12 20:25:37 im talking about global ~/.gitconfig Oct 12 20:25:43 ~/.gitconfig isn't created automatically unless you run git config --global Oct 12 20:25:44 which is set manually in the git fetcher Oct 12 20:25:52 fair enough Oct 12 20:26:01 there is this export GIT_CONFIG="/opt/yocto/cache-test/p3041ds/build_p3041ds_release/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/etc/gitconfig"; Oct 12 20:26:05 that config does not exist Oct 12 20:26:13 there is stuff in meta/classes/base.class Oct 12 20:26:44 if name == "ConfigParsed": Oct 12 20:26:44 generate_git_config(e) Oct 12 20:26:59 this step seems important for ignoring proxies Oct 12 20:28:29 if you don't have a ~/.gitconfig, see https://github.com/kergoth/homefiles/blob/master/.gitconfig - may be some useful bits you may want to steal Oct 12 20:28:38 (unrelated to this particular issue, naturally) Oct 12 20:29:49 kergoth: the bitbake fetcher isolates your own environement so whatever is on your own ~/.gitconfing is ignored Oct 12 20:30:05 at least that is what it explictly sets the GIT_CONFIG= before running git commands Oct 12 20:30:37 my point is, that GIT_CONFIG that bitbake is pointing too is a non-existant file Oct 12 20:31:22 is that a problem? Oct 12 20:31:51 yes, AFAIK the only way to ignore a proxy for a specific server is via the git config file Oct 12 20:32:11 and the code is there to generate that config file properly in meta/classes/base.class Oct 12 20:32:28 its just not getting run and thus not getting created, so we are not ignoring the proxy command for internal git servers Oct 12 20:33:20 i'd drop a print() and make sure generate_git_config() is being run Oct 12 20:33:32 did, its not Oct 12 20:35:23 we know the ConfigParsed event is firing, it always does, extremely early on Oct 12 20:35:29 ugh, why is it still using that getName() crap Oct 12 20:36:23 I added a bb.note() right at the generate_git_config() call and it does result in output Oct 12 20:36:29 so the function itself must not be doing its job Oct 12 20:36:37 hmmmm Oct 12 20:37:16 its GIT_CORE_CONFIG perhaps Oct 12 20:37:55 hmm Oct 12 21:02:23 kergoth: so it seems I need to set GIT_CORE_CONFIG for this file to be generated =) Oct 12 21:03:31 interesting Oct 12 21:03:36 didn't even know that variable existed Oct 12 21:03:45 seems redundant Oct 12 21:03:50 indeed Oct 12 21:03:52 or seems like we always want it Oct 12 21:03:59 we don't want the local env messing with fetches Oct 12 21:04:03 might want to send an email about it Oct 12 21:04:08 but i guess the reverse could be argued as ewll Oct 12 21:04:17 heh, i noticed a while back, our wget calls obey ~/.wgetrc. wonder if that ever got fixed Oct 12 21:04:28 thats also mentioned in meta/conf/site.conf.sample Oct 12 21:04:30 btw. Oct 12 21:04:49 not wget voodoo but proxy one **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 13 02:59:57 2011